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The 9/11 WTC "Traces of Tritium" Lie Is Obstruction of Justice by Accessories to Murder

 
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Bill Deagle is a fraud, a liar, and is accreditations do not withstand even the most prefunctory scrutiny.

Now... call me a CIA/BYU/Mormon intel agent...

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Unfortunately, I have one MAJOR problem with Deagle. Deagle has used my information in a collaborative effort for his WTC nuke information - NOT AN UNKNOWN INFORMER.

MAJOR PROBLEM WITH DEAGLE - I procured WTC debris, in the effort to 'assist me' get the correct testing done in a laboratory that could do it. THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY FOR THE EVIDENCE WAS TRANSFERRED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE TO DEAGLE.

SINCE THAT TIME IT'S BEEN WAY OVER A YEAR - DEAGLE HAS NOT GOTTEN THE EVIDENCE TESTED AND HAS REFUSED TO RETURN THE SAMPLE TO ME SO THAT I MAY GET IT TESTED. At one point he tried to pass off some 'results' that were proven to be completely BOGUS, only after I noted it, he agreed.

BOTTOM LINE - DEAGLE SEIZED THE EVIDENCE ILLEGALLY, DEAGLE HAS NOT HAD IT TESTED IN ALMOST 2 YEARS, DEAGLE WILL NOT RETURN THE EVIDENCE TO ME. Interesting isn't it.

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Marvin Bush saw to it that explosives were planted in WTC during the weeks and months HE WAS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY THERE BEFORE 911. Interestingly, he was also in charge of security at the airports where the planes took off on 911 and flew into the WTC and Pentagon.

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Knew about WTC security - The fact that he was also in charge of security at the ports was news to me. Got a link for that fact? Interesting isn't it.

Thanks,

Ed
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Bill Deagle is a fraud, a liar, and is accreditations do not withstand even the most prefunctory scrutiny.

Now... call me a CIA/BYU/Mormon intel agent...

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Do you have any link or proof to your statement ? :: Praise The Lamb:: Amen


Unfortunately, I have one MAJOR problem with Deagle. Deagle has used my information in a collaborative effort for his WTC nuke information - NOT AN UNKNOWN INFORMER.

MAJOR PROBLEM WITH DEAGLE - I procured WTC debris, in the effort to 'assist me' get the correct testing done in a laboratory that could do it. THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY FOR THE EVIDENCE WAS TRANSFERRED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE TO DEAGLE.

SINCE THAT TIME IT'S BEEN WAY OVER A YEAR - DEAGLE HAS NOT GOTTEN THE EVIDENCE TESTED AND HAS REFUSED TO RETURN THE SAMPLE TO ME SO THAT I MAY GET IT TESTED. At one point he tried to pass off some 'results' that were proven to be completely BOGUS, only after I noted it, he agreed.

BOTTOM LINE - DEAGLE SEIZED THE EVIDENCE ILLEGALLY, DEAGLE HAS NOT HAD IT TESTED IN ALMOST 2 YEARS, DEAGLE WILL NOT RETURN THE EVIDENCE TO ME. Interesting isn't it.

Ed
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Testimony is good what did you send him?
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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Marvin Bush saw to it that explosives were planted in WTC during the weeks and months HE WAS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY THERE BEFORE 911. Interestingly, he was also in charge of security at the airports where the planes took off on 911 and flew into the WTC and Pentagon.



Knew about WTC security - The fact that he was also in charge of security at the ports was news to me. Got a link for that fact? Interesting isn't it.

Thanks,

Ed
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The original information was in Barbra Bush's own book ! She is a proud mother telling about her son !
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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Bill Deagle is a fraud, a liar,

BOTTOM LINE - DEAGLE SEIZED THE EVIDENCE ILLEGALLY, DEAGLE HAS NOT HAD IT TESTED IN ALMOST 2 YEARS, DEAGLE WILL NOT RETURN THE EVIDENCE TO ME. Interesting isn't it.

Ed

Testimony is good what did you send him?
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It's more than testimony - Eyewitness accounts are the LOWEST FORM OF EVIDENCE. I have written proof posted in 07

6/15/07 - [link to www.rense.com]

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Marvin Bush saw to it that explosives were planted in WTC during the weeks and months HE WAS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY THERE BEFORE 911. Interestingly, he was also in charge of security at the airports where the planes took off on 911 and flew into the WTC and Pentagon.



Knew about WTC security - The fact that he was also in charge of security at the ports was news to me. Got a link for that fact? Interesting isn't it.

Thanks,

Ed

The original information was in Barbra Bush's own book ! She is a proud mother telling about her son !
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That'll do. Thanks.

Ed
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Bill Deagle is a fraud, a liar,

BOTTOM LINE - DEAGLE SEIZED THE EVIDENCE ILLEGALLY, DEAGLE HAS NOT HAD IT TESTED IN ALMOST 2 YEARS, DEAGLE WILL NOT RETURN THE EVIDENCE TO ME. Interesting isn't it.

Ed

Testimony is good what did you send him?


It's more than testimony - Eyewitness accounts are the LOWEST FORM OF EVIDENCE. I have written proof posted in 07

6/15/07 - [link to www.rense.com]

Ed
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I'm not doubting the evidence , I just like Deagle and would give him benefit of doubt! As for the Davy Crockett the literature shows the radiation is short lived ! Making the battlefield reusable in days ! They don't get into safety just reoccupying ! Very nice Rence article !! I believe you have done a patriotic duty there !!
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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It's more than testimony - Eyewitness accounts are the LOWEST FORM OF EVIDENCE. I have written proof posted in 07

6/15/07 - [link to www.rense.com]

Ed

I'm not doubting the evidence , I just like Deagle and would give him benefit of doubt! As for the Davy Crockett the literature shows the radiation is short lived ! Making the battlefield reusable in days ! They don't get into safety just reoccupying !
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I liked him and believed in him too. I would not have allowed collaboration without it. But, Facts are Facts. The facts do not fit with a truth finder in this instance - again,
this is a MAJOR PROBLEM WITH DEAGLE. Needless to say there is no way I'd do any collaborative effort with him again, although I have been on his show a couple times after that - exposure of the facts required it - but NO WAY WOULD I ALLOW HIM ACCESS TO ANYTHING THAT IMPORTANT OR EVEN LESS IMPORTANT AS THE THEFT OF THE SPECIMEN AND THE SCAM OF GETTING IT TESTED IS A PROVEN FACT.


Actually, the Davey was dirty, but just traveling through it's destruction path - provided nothing is inhaled - the effects would be minimal. You are correct that minus the major radioactivity coming directly from the dirty nuke - the "induced radiation" is gone and not detectable after 3 days to 5 days max. Also, linked and referenced in my articles.

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a fraud, a liar,

BOTTOM LINE - DEAGLE SEIZED THE EVIDENCE ILLEGALLY, DEAGLE HAS NOT HAD IT TESTED IN ALMOST 2 YEARS, DEAGLE WILL NOT RETURN THE EVIDENCE TO ME. Interesting isn't it.

Very nice Rence article !! I believe you have done a patriotic duty there !!
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Just noticed the last lines. As far as I'm concerned THERE IS NO OTHER REAL TRUTHER ON THE NET THAN JEFF RENSE. Without him, virtually all of this information would be UNKNOWN to all but a few.

I've posted some proven EXTREMELY HOT TOPICS on the Jeff Rense site - HE HAS NEVER DENIED ME EXPOSURE BASED ON A HIDDEN AGENDA. EVERY OTHER SITE I'VE SEEN OR WRITTEN FOR HAS AGENDA'S THAT THEY WILL NOT ALLOW TO BE BREACHED IF THE PROVEN FACTS ARE CLEARLY SHOWN.

I've been exposing the tyranny of this government and its scumbag shills for over 10 years now. Jeff Rense is the ONLY ONE THAT HAS GRANTED ACCESS FOR ALL OF THEM.

He is also one of the few REAL PATRIOTS we have left.

Thanks again,

Ed
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It's more than testimony - Eyewitness accounts are the LOWEST FORM OF EVIDENCE. I have written proof posted in 07

6/15/07 - [link to www.rense.com]

Ed

I'm not doubting the evidence , I just like Deagle and would give him benefit of doubt! As for the Davy Crockett the literature shows the radiation is short lived ! Making the battlefield reusable in days ! They don't get into safety just reoccupying !


I liked him and believed in him too. I would not have allowed collaboration without it. But, Facts are Facts. The facts do not fit with a truth finder in this instance - again,
this is a MAJOR PROBLEM WITH DEAGLE. Needless to say there is no way I'd do any collaborative effort with him again, although I have been on his show a couple times after that - exposure of the facts required it - but NO WAY WOULD I ALLOW HIM ACCESS TO ANYTHING THAT IMPORTANT OR EVEN LESS IMPORTANT AS THE THEFT OF THE SPECIMEN AND THE SCAM OF GETTING IT TESTED IS A PROVEN FACT.


Actually, the Davey was dirty, but just traveling through it's destruction path - provided nothing is inhaled - the effects would be minimal. You are correct that minus the major radioactivity coming directly from the dirty nuke - the "induced radiation" is gone and not detectable after 3 days to 5 days max. Also, linked and referenced in my articles.

Ed
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You have the inside info that that you became convinced with and I believe you but without hearing Deagle's side I personally cannot say he is a spook ! But I will listen closer from now on further testing what he comes out with ! You my yet win me over if I catch him tripping any !! The fact that you have stuck with this over a period of year say's something itself !
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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It's more than testimony - Eyewitness accounts are the LOWEST FORM OF EVIDENCE. I have written proof posted in 07

6/15/07 - [link to www.rense.com]

Ed

I'm not doubting the evidence , I just like Deagle and would give him benefit of doubt! As for the Davy Crockett the literature shows the radiation is short lived ! Making the battlefield reusable in days ! They don't get into safety just reoccupying !


I liked him and believed in him too. I would not have allowed collaboration without it. But, Facts are Facts. The facts do not fit with a truth finder in this instance - again,
this is a MAJOR PROBLEM WITH DEAGLE. Needless to say there is no way I'd do any collaborative effort with him again, although I have been on his show a couple times after that - exposure of the facts required it - but NO WAY WOULD I ALLOW HIM ACCESS TO ANYTHING THAT IMPORTANT OR EVEN LESS IMPORTANT AS THE THEFT OF THE SPECIMEN AND THE SCAM OF GETTING IT TESTED IS A PROVEN FACT.



Ed

You have the inside info that that you became convinced with and I believe you but without hearing Deagle's side I personally cannot say he is a spook ! But I will listen closer from now on further testing what he comes out with ! You my yet win me over if I catch him tripping any !! The fact that you have stuck with this over a period of year say's something itself !
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According to Deagle - every single place he has tried to get testing has received 'death threats' and that is why IN ALMOST 2 YEARS IT HAS NOT BEEN TESTED. BUT THIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN WHY HE STOLE THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY - I submitted the specimen to the lab, after Deagle was called in to speak with the lab regarding exactly what instruement and type of testing was required, the specimen was shipped to another lab AND PLACED WITHOUT MY CONSENT INTO HIS CUSTODY TO THE OTHER LAB - although I suspect he had the specimen shipped directly to him. THIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN WHY HE HAS REFUSED ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASSION TO RETURN TO SPECIMEN TO ME for me to get it tested.

ABSOLUTELY, PLACE NO 100% TRUST IN ANYONE - THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO 'PERSUADE' someone to join these scum in hiding facts - an offer that can not be refused. They can jail me - same as a death sentence because I will go 'nothing by mouth' in a scam jail sentence, they can kill me, they can scam me - BUT, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY WAY THEY CAN STOP ME UNTIL DEATH. But, it is theoretically possible they could come up with something to change that fact. It's NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, but one must always consider that it is a possibility. THEY CAN NOT STOP ME UNTIL I'M DEAD and I will take martyrdom for my, my family, and mankinds family release from the murder and destruction these scum parasites deal in, if that is what it takes to get the truth out to a larger spectrum of the populace.

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Marvin Bush saw to it that explosives were planted in WTC during the weeks and months HE WAS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY THERE BEFORE 911. Interestingly, he was also in charge of security at the airports where the planes took off on 911 and flew into the WTC and Pentagon.



Knew about WTC security - The fact that he was also in charge of security at the ports was news to me. Got a link for that fact? Interesting isn't it.

Thanks,

Ed
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God almighty are you fuckwits still talking about Marvin?

You do know don't you that the company he had a TINY stake in was thrown off the WTC job, years before 9/11 for being worse than useless? That he'd relinquished his stake in the company by then. The security provided wasn't live security either, you know guards and stuff, but the other kind of security.

As you get all your info from crackpot sites it almost all WRONG. Most of it is lies, wishful thinking and just pure made up horseshit.

Get a fucking education or get off the net.
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Marvin Bush saw to it that explosives were planted in WTC during the weeks and months HE WAS IN CHARGE OF SECURITY THERE BEFORE 911. Interestingly, he was also in charge of security at the airports where the planes took off on 911 and flew into the WTC and Pentagon.



Knew about WTC security - The fact that he was also in charge of security at the ports was news to me. Got a link for that fact? Interesting isn't it.

Thanks,

Ed


God almighty are you fuckwits still talking about Marvin?

You do know don't you that the company he had a TINY stake in was thrown off the WTC job, years before 9/11 for being worse than useless? That he'd relinquished his stake in the company by then. The security provided wasn't live security either, you know guards and stuff, but the other kind of security.

As you get all your info from crackpot sites it almost all WRONG. Most of it is lies, wishful thinking and just pure made up horseshit.

Get a fucking education or get off the net.
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A fuckwit shows up...

READ and learn, fuckwit:

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God almighty are you fuckwits still talking about Marvin?

You do know don't you that the company he had a TINY stake in was thrown off the WTC job, years before 9/11 for being worse than useless? That he'd relinquished his stake in the company by then. The security provided wasn't live security either, you know guards and stuff, but the other kind of security.

As you get all your info from crackpot sites it almost all WRONG. Most of it is lies, wishful thinking and just pure made up horseshit.

Get a fucking education or get off the net.
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Marvin Bush, head of security, ominously shut down security cameras two weeks prior to the WTC demolitions.

Marvin Bush terminated his contract with Larry Silverstein on, get this, 9/11/01. Imagine that.

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Was the tritium from all the exit signs in the building?

Best guess yet.

Any sort of nuke, by any name, would release a whole lot more radioactive material than tritium. Radioactive material that's alot easier to identify than tritium, even years after the fact.

Exit signs can contain millicuries of tritium, (1 millicurie = 1,000,000 nanocuries). I don't know how many exit signs or other tritium sources were in the WTC, bu it's not hard to imagine a few nCi ending up in the basement.

Sorry Doc, I don't buy it.

Reflective type exit signs in davenport were illegal in the 60's ! All exits had to be upgraded to electric then electric with battery backup with strobes . Maybe in a backwards unregulated city like New York they still had the old exit signs with radioactive paint like the old clocks had ! Ya that could happen ??
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Don't believe you know what you're talking about. Tritium exit signs don't work like that and are leagal in all fifty states, and NY City (probably more common there than anywhere.)

[link to home2.nyc.gov]

I've got no dog in this fight, but facts are facts.
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Inside job would seem to fit the face





the dust declared safe by Christine of EPA(and not held accountable to that lie in court)


Many have already died, many more are dying-

after a preponderance of the facts it becomes alarming, the amount of obfuscation incredible



The buildings were contaminated with asbestos-they were to go through an abatement-few would want to touch it as it was throughout the towers



Actual science and actual fact converge to reveal massive deceptions


Marvin Bush ought to step up and clear the air...if it can be done


In less than 1 hour the worlds financial center collapsed and now the world FOLLOWS-many countries were represented there-many of them. Surprisingly one is seemingly absent...Hmmm which one could that be?...



massive sacrifice-seems there would have to be a serious action by a few well placed agents...and for the height and DEPTH of the treachery they would be very "important tools" to utilize the resources of the USA as they chose...amidst the 4 or so wargames happening that day.


I know what I did not see-our fighters shooting down a hostile(wearing our colors or not they had entered restricted airspace and were NOT haled)

That is what I expected in one moment which quickly dispersed to it should not go as it is going, having seen other jetfighters shoot down other airplanes-etc through the decades


something was STAGED and not by camel jockeys imho

over and over they sought to induce PTSD in many-and we see the deterioration that has intensified-the ALIENATION encouraged from one religion to another, from one country to another, from one party to another, from one color to another, and they intend to FAN THOSE EMBERS I am SURE...illegal, legal...and the increasing uprisings ENCOURAGED-and the increasing distrust within a party, color, creed, sex,etc...this is the plan-


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be aware, do not be baited as CONS are still at work within-

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""""""We were informed by PANYNJ authorities that there
were no tritium signs at the WTC, only photoluminescent ones (33)."""""""""""

[link to e-reports-ext.llnl.gov (secure)]

From the lying "Traces of Tritium" study Lie. Of course it didn't stop them from still listing them as a source, and then hidden down deeper in the article stating they weren't there.

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""""""We were informed by PANYNJ authorities that there
were no tritium signs at the WTC, only photoluminescent ones (33)."""""""""""

[link to e-reports-ext.llnl.gov (secure)]

From the lying "Traces of Tritium" study Lie. Of course it didn't stop them from still listing them as a source, and then hidden down deeper in the article stating they weren't there.

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The report attributes the tritium to exit signs on the planes, as well as gunsights from law enforcement weapons.

If you don't believe them when they blame the planes, why do you believe them when they say they found tritium? Maybe it's all a lie, and there was no tritium! HOAX!
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""""""We were informed by PANYNJ authorities that there
were no tritium signs at the WTC, only photoluminescent ones (33)."""""""""""

[link to e-reports-ext.llnl.gov (secure)]

From the lying "Traces of Tritium" study Lie. Of course it didn't stop them from still listing them as a source, and then hidden down deeper in the article stating they weren't there.

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The report attributes the tritium to exit signs on the planes, as well as gunsights from law enforcement weapons.

If you don't believe them when they blame the planes, why do you believe them when they say they found tritium? Maybe it's all a lie, and there was no tritium! HOAX!
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No dog in the hunt - but 3 complete unreferenced, maybe, couldas BS posts vs REFERENCED PROVEN FACT.

Give my love to the shrub, BYU crew, Israel, and the rest of the Illuminati scumbags - scumbags of a feather flock together,

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Was the tritium from all the exit signs in the building?

Best guess yet.

Any sort of nuke, by any name, would release a whole lot more radioactive material than tritium. Radioactive material that's alot easier to identify than tritium, even years after the fact.

Exit signs can contain millicuries of tritium, (1 millicurie = 1,000,000 nanocuries). I don't know how many exit signs or other tritium sources were in the WTC, bu it's not hard to imagine a few nCi ending up in the basement.

Sorry Doc, I don't buy it.

Reflective type exit signs in davenport were illegal in the 60's ! All exits had to be upgraded to electric then electric with battery backup with strobes . Maybe in a backwards unregulated city like New York they still had the old exit signs with radioactive paint like the old clocks had ! Ya that could happen ??

Don't believe you know what you're talking about. Tritium exit signs don't work like that and are leagal in all fifty states, and NY City (probably more common there than anywhere.)

[link to home2.nyc.gov]

I've got no dog in this fight, but facts are facts.
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your right I looked deeper I had 7 buildings down town Davenport and Moline and have never seen an exit sign like shown on your link ! I pictured a glowing paint like a watch dial as I had read that description somewhere !
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What would nukes have been used for, maybe clearing a space for the building to fall into? Wouldn't we see evidence of a nuclear explosion on all the electronic media devices like a surge of electricity, EMF, etc?
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the EMP's release melted car engines and metal parts on cars within a short distance of WTC, hard to believe that a car can catch on fire 1/4 mile away from ground zero without some help from a nuke....


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Was the tritium from all the exit signs in the building?

Best guess yet.


your right I looked deeper I had 7 buildings down town Davenport and Moline and have never seen an exit sign like shown on your link ! I pictured a glowing paint like a watch dial as I had read that description somewhere !
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It's been proven there were no tritium exit signs in the WTC. Note, no hunting dog, went from exit signs in the building to 2 dinky airplane signs and the SUDDENLY DISCOVERED gunsights after it was proven no tritium exit signs existed in the WTC. Half life of tritium is less than 13 years, seems as though it would be very expensive replacing them every 10 years or so.

BTW, the whole damn building could have been filled with gun sights, exit signs AND AS SOON AS TRITIUM IS EXPOSED TO FIRE IT GOES ATMOSPHERIC UNLESS WATER IS POURED OVER THE TRITIUM DURING THE FIRE. AND AGAIN, WHEN ONE COUNTS THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DILUTION AND STILL HAVING 55 TIMES NORMAL LEVELS THIS ACCOUNTS FOR BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS.

Circular scam BS jumping from one BS scam to the next when each BS scam is shown to be scam. Hunting dog is clearly a dirtbag with an agenda to hide/scam the facts, not evaluate the facts. Notice how not one has taken a single referenced fact in this article OR ANY OF MY ARTICLES AND PROVEN IT WRONG. Instead, its classic textbook CIA examples of scamming facts with personal attacks and unreferenced coulda's, maybe's. When something is a scam, one does not need or want to do any of that. YOU SIMPLY SHOW THE SUPPOSED FACTS ARE BS BY REFERENCED PROVEN DATA THAT THE SUPPOSED FACTS ARE FALSE, JUST LIKE I DID WITH THE TRACES OF TRITIUM LIE.

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:mini-nuke:

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I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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Was the tritium from all the exit signs in the building?

Best guess yet.


your right I looked deeper I had 7 buildings down town Davenport and Moline and have never seen an exit sign like shown on your link ! I pictured a glowing paint like a watch dial as I had read that description somewhere !


It's been proven there were no tritium exit signs in the WTC. Note, no hunting dog, went from exit signs in the building to 2 dinky airplane signs and the SUDDENLY DISCOVERED gunsights after it was proven no tritium exit signs existed in the WTC. Half life of tritium is less than 13 years, seems as though it would be very expensive replacing them every 10 years or so.

BTW, the whole damn building could have been filled with gun sights, exit signs AND AS SOON AS TRITIUM IS EXPOSED TO FIRE IT GOES ATMOSPHERIC UNLESS WATER IS POURED OVER THE TRITIUM DURING THE FIRE. AND AGAIN, WHEN ONE COUNTS THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DILUTION AND STILL HAVING 55 TIMES NORMAL LEVELS THIS ACCOUNTS FOR BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS.

Circular scam BS jumping from one BS scam to the next when each BS scam is shown to be scam. Hunting dog is clearly a dirtbag with an agenda to hide/scam the facts, not evaluate the facts. Notice how not one has taken a single referenced fact in this article OR ANY OF MY ARTICLES AND PROVEN IT WRONG. Instead, its classic textbook CIA examples of scamming facts with personal attacks and unreferenced coulda's, maybe's. When something is a scam, one does not need or want to do any of that. YOU SIMPLY SHOW THE SUPPOSED FACTS ARE BS BY REFERENCED PROVEN DATA THAT THE SUPPOSED FACTS ARE FALSE, JUST LIKE I DID WITH THE TRACES OF TRITIUM LIE.

Ed
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Pretty strong (if incoherent) language from a guy who only believes Jeff Rense. It was your link that cited the airplane tritium signs and gunsights, and the modelling in your link that stated it was a reasonable concentration to expect. Tritium gas exposed to fire burns to H2O (water). I don't know what you mean by "goes atmospheric".

I'm not in a position to argue with Lawrence Livermore Natl. Lab folks (and don't believe you are either, but that's not the point.) Again, if you don't believe the report, why do you cite it as evidence?

Have fun with your delusions Ed. I've got real fish to fry today.
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:mini-nuke:

:mini.Hbomb:
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This information is from the Finnish military expert, also linked in my articles. It is very good and what made me write my original articles on nukes in the WTC, although my semi-humble self would say that with a little less than 200 referenced links in my first 2 articles, I believe my information is somewhat better. None the less, the Finnish military expert deserves credit for the information he bravely and concerningly exposed.

Based on the sudden turning into dust of the top floors in mid air, I suspect there were at least 2 mini's in wtc 1 and 2, only one needed for 6.

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Did ya'll enjoy the influx of the BYU crew - Woodhead division if I remember correctly - disinfo agents? Cogburn and no dog in the hunt (ndih) - think Insolubrious has written "sorry doc i'm not buying it" is his quote on ATS also? Can't get to the link since I'm banned from abovetopsneakrat.con. More on abovetopsneakrat and prisonscamet in articles below.
ndih stated tritium exit signs supposedly covered the amount of tritium until there were none and suddenly hundreds of guns with nightsights found. Well, tritium signs have several Curies in each sign x 4 per floor? say 500 for a conservative number? Minimum of several is 3 curies, = 1500 Curies. Now ndih states couple hundred guns will do the same as the exit signs because of nightsights which contain 12mCi (m = 1/1000 of a Curie) each or there were a thousand of them would = 12 Curies. Suddenly 12 Curies is enough, when at first it would take 1500 Curies.
Tritium gunsights signs, etc. [link to www.physics.isu.edu]

Why do I only believe the part of the 'traces of tritium' report? Because, I suspect the statistics are correct - it was for the government to check what would be residual after a micro nuke - the test sampling was based entirely to check close and distant levels. Note two samples taken from 1 building, then multiple samples taken from varying distances. They knew the nuke was done on all three, so they only needed one building tested - ALL OTHER TESTS WERE OFF SITE. Never believe what some scumbag has 'concluded' look at the facts yourself, especially when it's government 'checking' on itself - see DU and agent orange 'deja du' by Ed Ward, MD

Note how NONE ADDRESSED - NOR WILL THEY ADDRESS - THE REFERENCED PROVEN FACTS. Inuendo, doubt, lies and person attacks are the core of disinfo agents.

Hello!?! 48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue - This concentration is almost equal to the highest concentrations of environmental contamination of the 1960's after Thousands of Megaton Nukes were 'tested'. 55 TIMES BACKGROUND AND ALMOST EQUAL TO THE HIGHEST RECORDED LEVELS OF THE 60'S IS CALLED TRACES - Dr. Jones ceased response. This is not science, ignoring and denying 55 x what should have been found and that was after 4 million liters of dilution. Steven Jones, the DOE report and the BYU crew CALL THIS TRACES.
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Note: This is based on evidence in which some of glass Tritium containers were not even melted by fire. All of the Tritium found was only in/on the unmelted glass. In any fire that can melt glass, ALL of tritium escapes into the atmosphere, unless water is poured over the source DURING the initial fire.) This same quote has been posted on the net prior to this posting - quite possibly on abovetopsneakrat.con.

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AboveTopSneakrat.con (ATS) - [link to groups.yahoo.com]
PrisonScamet.con (PPF) - [link to groups.yahoo.com] - BYU crew - Jones Division.

The above makes me have to post this now and again for the cult followers:

Done with the BS. No facts countering my referenced proven facts - not interested. I've got what I need for my article. Gotta go shopping at the Rense store. Will be interesting as usual. If not, I can get it in the engines. Hmm, why haven't I been sued - Joneses, 911 truth sites deny, misreprent, and ignore no more - They all stand behind 55 times normal = traces. If you get one of anything everyday, then one day you get 55 IT CAN NOT BE CALLED TRACES IN ANY REALITY AND CERTAINLY NO SCIENTIFIC CALCULATION EVALUATION. TO DO SO IS A BLATANT LIE BY LYING TREASONOUS TRAITORS HIDING THE FACTS OF MURDER. Then we can deal with craters, hiroshima effects, wilting spires, 2 billion pounds of instant dust, etc, et al. THEN AFTER THAT AND EVERYONE IS AGREED IT'S CORRECT AND NOT BS OR THE FACTS ARE PROVEN WRONG BY FACTS, I'LL GLADLY ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS. Jones et al is going to have to sue, prove me wrong - and if he can prove 55 times THE NORMAL AMOUNT = TRACES. I'll gladly retract my statement as incorrect -, or be known as lying treasonous traitors and accessories after the fact to murder by lying about evidence. 55 times NORMAL CAN NEVER BE TRACES OF ANYTHING LET ALONE TRITIUM. Until then Jones, et al are lying treasonous traitors.

DrEd
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Hi. I'm a real person. Just some guy. I called you out on your crap on ATS. I called Bill Deagle out on his as well. [link to www.fuck_off.com]


What does Big Ed do when you corner his unsupported medical "facts"?
[link to www.fuck_off.com]

Accuse you of being a shill amongst a host of 4 letter words.

You're a whacko and I will continue to call you a whacko. There's infinitely more proof of that than I work for the CIA.

I do hear the pay is nice, though...
"While you were hanging yourself
On someone else's words,
Dying to believe in what you'd heard,
I was staring straight into the shining sun."
- David Gilmour
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the EMP's release melted car engines and metal parts on cars within a short distance of WTC, hard to believe that a car can catch on fire 1/4 mile away from ground zero without some help from a nuke....
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Some amazing photos here:

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