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How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system

 
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How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
I'm on a Mac G5 not a Pee C.
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
There are NO systems that DONT have them hardwired IN..undetectable and unchangeable.

There is NO SUCH THING as as "secure" personal computer. The PTB would NOT let us have any secrets..they BUILD the PC's...so dont you think they let us have the ILLUSION that we are "secure" behind our pissy firewalls which THEY wrote.

It may stop your average hacker but the PTB knows WHO is WHERE and WHAT is SAID to WHO no matter WHAT!

THATS wht they are CALLED THE PT fuckung B!

NO secrets.
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The keyboard feels spongy or soft.
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
There are NO systems that DONT have them hardwired IN..undetectable and unchangeable.

There is NO SUCH THING as as "secure" personal computer. The PTB would NOT let us have any secrets..they BUILD the PC's...so dont you think they let us have the ILLUSION that we are "secure" behind our pissy firewalls which THEY wrote.

It may stop your average hacker but the PTB knows WHO is WHERE and WHAT is SAID to WHO no matter WHAT!

THATS wht they are CALLED THE PT fuckung B!

NO secrets.
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
There are NO systems that DONT have them hardwired IN..undetectable and unchangeable.

There is NO SUCH THING as as "secure" personal computer. The PTB would NOT let us have any secrets..they BUILD the PC's...so dont you think they let us have the ILLUSION that we are "secure" behind our pissy firewalls which THEY wrote.

It may stop your average hacker but the PTB knows WHO is WHERE and WHAT is SAID to WHO no matter WHAT!

THATS wht they are CALLED THE PT fuckung B!

NO secrets.
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uh oh the TPTB know I'm an ebay junkie that collects purses? I'm screwed! hiding
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
the secret is to not use your keyboard.
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
go to internet banking, type in your details and return in 3 days.
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
the secret is to not use your keyboard.
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Actually, this is true. You can go to a website at [link to strongpasswordgenerator.com] and have it create passwords for you. And then, you can copy/paste the password into a text document.

Whenever you need to use that password, you should open the text file, copy the password that is in there to your clipboard, then go to the screen where you need to input your password, and simply press ctrl-v (paste).

If you have a keylogger on your computer, it will only log your key presses. It will see that you pressed the keys for the website's domain name. Big whoop. But the keys it logs you as pressing will only be CTRL-V rather than the password itself.

For even more security, you might consider putting the file that contains your passwords onto a removable flash drive or such. And only have it attached to your computer when you actually need to access it.
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the secret is to not use your keyboard.


Actually, this is true. You can go to a website at [link to strongpasswordgenerator.com] and have it create passwords for you. And then, you can copy/paste the password into a text document.

Whenever you need to use that password, you should open the text file, copy the password that is in there to your clipboard, then go to the screen where you need to input your password, and simply press ctrl-v (paste).

If you have a keylogger on your computer, it will only log your key presses. It will see that you pressed the keys for the website's domain name. Big whoop. But the keys it logs you as pressing will only be CTRL-V rather than the password itself.

For even more security, you might consider putting the file that contains your passwords onto a removable flash drive or such. And only have it attached to your computer when you actually need to access it.
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Wow, that's pretty good advice. You seem like you could write some good tutorials for security. I bet you have a ton of tips (hint, hint).
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03/11/2009 01:33 AM
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
Something to consider is if the logger is software or hardware. The hardware can be undetectable by scanning, but easily found on the computer system. The software is harder to find, but there are plenty of programs that will detect the majority of them.
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
Do this...

If you do online banking or use an online payment processor.. do this.. open up notepad.. type the site/s that you go to for your banking or paypal site.. then type the passwords. If you wake one day soon after and notice that your missing money then you know you probably have a keylogger. :)
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
Just turn the pc off and go outside in the woods. problem solved.
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I bet you have a ton of tips (hint, hint).
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now maybe if you could show us your tips, we can share our tips

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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
If you are that paranoid, stick in the recovery DVD, and format the disk, and re-install.

there is no other way.

it's the best solution.
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Am I protecting my CC numbers by putting all the zeros in first, then the ones, then twos and so forth, or am I just wasting my time?
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Linux can be made secure.
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
Well, there's a theory floating around some tech circles that there's a remote-activated keylogger built into every keyboard sold in the US. It wouldn't be hard to do, and unless they activated it, no one would know it's there, and if windows pipes the keylogger invisibly, you'll never know someone was recording you. Because we don't really know what sort of secret deals are made with corporates, it's not as unlikely as it sounds.

Of course, it doesn't even have to be that sophisticated. A simple radio receiver/recorder within a few feet (or yards, if it's sensitive/focused enough), can record the pulses as your keys activate, and have been used for years to spy on people. The advantage there is that you can put it anywhere, retrieve it later, and you have a permanent record of the information, for later review. It's not hard to do, any kid with a moderate knowledge of electronics (or plans from the internet) could be recording your info anytime.

In the past, these things have mostly been used by cops and similar, but nowadays it's not unusual that someone stakes out coffee shops, and when you carelessly go to the counter for a refill, they walk out with not only your laptop, but access to anything on it.
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Damn hackers... I'll be back to my Spectrum.
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03/11/2009 07:07 AM
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
the secret is to not use your keyboard.


Actually, this is true. You can go to a website at [link to strongpasswordgenerator.com] and have it create passwords for you. And then, you can copy/paste the password into a text document.

Whenever you need to use that password, you should open the text file, copy the password that is in there to your clipboard, then go to the screen where you need to input your password, and simply press ctrl-v (paste).

If you have a keylogger on your computer, it will only log your key presses. It will see that you pressed the keys for the website's domain name. Big whoop. But the keys it logs you as pressing will only be CTRL-V rather than the password itself.

For even more security, you might consider putting the file that contains your passwords onto a removable flash drive or such. And only have it attached to your computer when you actually need to access it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 484854



Wrong. Most keyloggers these days copy your clipboard AND take screenshots. gghf
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
Here's some info on that topic.

[link to forums.cnet.com]
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03/11/2009 07:28 AM
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Wrong. Most keyloggers these days copy your clipboard AND take screenshots. gghf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 632412


"Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good"

Ever hear that quote? It means that you shouldn't scrap something that is good just because it isn't perfect.

Quite frankly, the advice I gave is very good advice. Is it perfect advice? Of course not. As you said, SOME keyloggers are more advanced. But having said that, obviously some are less advanced. That's just common sense/logic there.
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03/11/2009 07:31 AM
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Re: How do you know if you have a keystroke logger installed on your system
Anyone who posts on GLP has their computer installed with a keystroke logger, free of charge.

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