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COSTA MESA, California: Greg Hayworth, 44, graduated from Syracuse University and made a good living in his home state, California, from real estate and mortgage finance. Then that business crashed, and early last year the bank foreclosed on the house he was renting, forcing his family's eviction.

Now the Hayworths and their three children represent a new face of homelessness in Orange County: formerly middle income, living week to week in a cramped motel room.

"I owe it to my kids to get out of here," Hayworth said, recalling the night they saw a motel neighbor drag a half-naked woman out the door while he beat her.

As the recession has deepened, long-time workers who lost their jobs are facing the terror and stigma of homelessness for the first time, including those who have owned or rented for years. Some show up in shelters and on the streets, but others, like the Hayworths, are the hidden homeless — living doubled up in apartments, in garages or in motels, uncounted in U.S. homeless data and often receiving little public aid.

The Hayworths tried staying with relatives but ended up last September at the Costa Mesa Motor Inn, one of more than 1,000 families estimated to be living in motels in Orange County alone. They are among a lucky few: A charity pays part of the $800-a-month charge while Hayworth tries to recreate a career.

The family, which includes a 15-year-old daughter, shares a single room and sleeps on two beds. With most possessions in storage, they eat in two shifts, on three borrowed plates — all that one jammed cabinet can hold. His wife has health problems and, like many other families, they cannot muster the security deposit and other upfront costs of renting a new place.

Motel families exist by the hundreds in Denver, along freeway-bypassed Route 1 on the Eastern Seaboard, and in other cities from Chattanooga, Tennessee, to Portland, Oregon. But they are especially prevalent in Orange County, which has high rents, a shortage of public housing and a surplus of older motels that once housed Disneyland visitors.

"The motels have become the de facto low-income housing of Orange County," said Wally Gonzales, director of Project Dignity, one of dozens of small charities and church groups that have emerged to assist families, usually helping a few dozen each and relying on donations of food, clothing and toys.

In the past, motel families here were mainly drawn from the chronically struggling. In 1998, an exposé of neglected motel children by The Orange County Register prompted the creation of city task forces and promises of help. But in recent months, schools, churches and charities report a different sort of family showing up.

"People asking for help are from a wider demographic range than we've seen in the past, middle-income families," said Terry Lowe, director of community services in Anaheim, California. The motels range from those with tattered rugs and residents who abuse alcohol and drugs to newer places with playgrounds and kitchenettes. With names like the Covered Wagon Motel and the El Dorado Inn, they look like any other modestly priced stopover inland from the ritzy beach towns. But walk inside and the perception immediately changes.

In the evening, the smell of pasta sauce cooked on hot plates drifts through half-open doors; in the morning, children leave to catch school buses. Families of three, six or more are squeezed into a room, one child doing homework on a bed, jostled by another watching television. Children rotate at bedtime, taking their turns on the floor. Some families, like the Malpicas, in a motel in Anaheim, commandeer a closet for baby cribs.

The Garza family moved to the Costa Mesa Inn in August, after the husband, Johnny, lost his job at Target, his wife, Tamara, lost her job at Petco, and they were evicted from their two-bedroom rental.

Their 9-year-old daughter now shares a bed with two younger brothers, their toys and schoolbooks piled on the floor. The couple's baby boy, born in April, sleeps in a small crib. Rental aid from U.S. and county programs reach only a small fraction of needy families, said Bob Cerince, coordinator for homeless and motel residents services in Anaheim, who estimated the families at more than 1,000.

President Barack Obama's stimulus package may give hope to more people and blunt the projected rise of families who could end up in motels and shelters, said Nan Roman, president of the National Alliance to End Homelessness in Washington. The package allows $1.5 billion for homelessness prevention, including help with rent and security deposits. Schools have made special efforts to help children in displaced families stay in class, and some send social workers to connect families with counseling services and food aid.

Wendy Dallin, the liaison for the homeless in one of Anaheim's seven school districts, said that in the last three months she had learned of 38 newly homeless families, bringing the total she knew of in her district to 376. About 48 of those families are living in motels, Dallin said, with the rest in shelters, renting a room or garage, staying with relatives or living in cars. At the same time, in California's budget crisis, some school social workers are being laid off.

Many motel residents have at least one working parent and pay $800 to $1,200 a month for a room. Yet even those with jobs can become mired in motel life for years because of bad credit ratings and the difficulty of saving the extra months' rent and security deposits to secure an apartment.

Paris Andre Navarro, 47, knows how hard it can be to climb back.

She and her husband used to have good jobs and an apartment in Garden Grove, near Anaheim. But they have spent the last three years with their 11-year-old daughter in the El Dorado Inn.

The bottom fell out when her husband's medical problems forced him to leave his job as a computer technician and her home-care job ended.

They were evicted and moved into the motel, and she started working the night shift at Target.

Last year, when Navarro's husband started a telemarketing job, they thought they might escape. That hope evaporated when her hours at Target were cut in half. What with the $241 weekly rent, the cost of essentials and a $380 car payment, they cannot save.

"Now we're just living paycheck to paycheck," Navarro said.

Their daughter, Crystal, tries to sound stoical. "What I miss most is having a pet," she said. The motel does not allow pets, so she gave away her cat and kittens.

Greg Hayworth, whose family has spent six dispiriting months in the Costa Mesa Inn, tried working in sales but has had trouble finding a lasting job. Paul Leon, a former nurse who formed the Illumination Foundation to aid motel families, has promised to help with a security deposit when the Hayworths are able to move out.

Hayworth's teenage daughter has had a difficult time because of the lack of privacy. She is too embarrassed to take friends home, and is uncomfortable dressing in front of her brothers, who are 10 and 11.

Not long ago, she was attacked at school by classmates who mocked her for living in a motel.

"I'd promised my daughter that we'd be out of here by her birthday," Hayworth said. "But that came last week, and we're still here."

"It really hurt me the other day," he added. "My son came home and asked, 'Are we homeless?' I didn't know what to say."
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I'm in the NE and I heard about this in my area. Single guy I know was looking for an appt. and found out that for $550/mo. you could rent one of those hotel rooms with the little kitchenette to one side. Not a bad deal if you can find a relative or friend to store your shit for you until times get better and you don't go ape-shit living in one room. But I guess it sure beats living in Tent City if you can afford the rent there
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at least they are off of the street ..it can always be worse...
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Re: Hidden homeless: U.S. families living in motel rooms
i remember back in the late 80's early 90's NYC was turning away its section 8 people. they migrated onto long island. LI couldnt handle it and put these ppl up in motels scattered across both nassau/suffolk counties - as far as riverhead/the hamptons/rocky point etc.

i recall some families living in tents near smiths point.

800.00 a month for a motel thats not even an efficiency. if a charity is going to pay that, then why not offer them the rent/security depo - in lieu of them paying continuously for a motel (for those who still have a job that is but are homeless)
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Just gettin' started!

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Re: Hidden homeless: U.S. families living in motel rooms
I'm in the NE and I heard about this in my area. Single guy I know was looking for an appt. and found out that for $550/mo. you could rent one of those hotel rooms with the little kitchenette to one side. Not a bad deal if you can find a relative or friend to store your shit for you until times get better and you don't go ape-shit living in one room. But I guess it sure beats living in Tent City if you can afford the rent there
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jeeze - rents have become astronomical. ffs the mtg i used to have on my city property before it got paid off was like 300 a month - for a whole house.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Thank you for the post Phenom. You have a good point. I believe that if anything is indicative of a depression, or the start there of, this definitely shows it. Another disturbing trend are all of the "tent cities" and "car towns" popping up as well. When referring to "car towns", I mean that there are designated homeless parking lots for people who have a car or truck and live out of them. Yes, it is getting that bad. I myself, have taken a large loss in business over the past couple of years and my wife lost her job this past November. If things get better, we can continue to be home owners. If not, we would have to sell our place and live out of a very modest apartment (if that). Scary times my friend.
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The tragedy is that so many repos are left empty and thieves and vandals destroy them. In my area, there are lots of abandoned business and residential properties going to waste. Government assistance could be used wisely by and renovating unused space. Instead, it's just another way for the scam artists to make a buck at the expense of everybody else.
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The tragedy is that so many repos are left empty and thieves and vandals destroy them. In my area, there are lots of abandoned business and residential properties going to waste. Government assistance could be used wisely by and renovating unused space. Instead, it's just another way for the scam artists to make a buck at the expense of everybody else.
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i have said this over/over - the failouts were a sham.

the gov should have required the banks to refi all loans at a reduced interest rate (fixed - thus lowering the monthly pmt) abate all charges incurred and tack on the months of delinquencies to end of loan.

now this may not be fail-safe,tho buyers should still qualify re employment/income.....the conundrum would be whether to refi at orig loan amt or at current mkt value....someone would have to eat the difference, but this couldve saved at least a good majority of the foreclosures w/o taxpayer expense.

youre not gonna tell me that those 'think tanks' couldnt think of this themselves. course not, thats to easy. the fkn bail-outs were a scam. money wasnt used for intended purposes; it went overseas, paid for hotel parties, bonus', jets etc. we were robbed.
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
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the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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yes, and all the people losing their homes to foreclosure...are not helping the rent situation either...it's called supply and demand...more rentals are needed, so the prices inflate up to accommodate the demand..when the best thing to do would be to allow the people to stay in their homes...at least to keep them lived in...
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Funny about all this and that is the recession/depression is beginning to lead me to believe that now that time has passed that it is deliberate

The Creditors give credit at v high interest rates then reels in the credit when the interest can't be met

Last I heard it was at 18 cents to the dollar times that by one thousand you owe 180 dollars of that is the interest..The creditors gave anyone a card basically and expects it to work?

So all the debt mounts up of unpaid credit and the lenders get upset w the creditors. The creditors raise the rates again to cover the debt owed to the lenders..I don't know what it is now..

I just don't know but I do know the peeps are without home or bread
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yes, and all the people losing their homes to foreclosure...are not helping the rent situation either...it's called supply and demand...more rentals are needed, so the prices inflate up to accommodate the demand..when the best thing to do would be to allow the people to stay in their homes...at least to keep them lived in...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454032


but you see - THIS is all part of the "plan"....a part of endgame.
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Syracuse University and made a good living in his home state, California, from real estate and mortgage finance. Then that business crashed, and early last year the bank

 Quoting: Phennommennonn



I used to live in San Diego - left when the housing bubble started. No way I'm paying $500,000 in mortgage and taxes for a condo... The housing bubble destroyed the culture of California, Arizona, Florida and severely damaged it elsewhere.

It was sick, speculative "growth" at the expense of those who just wanted to raise a family.

There is a certain irony to this story. One time parasite making a "living" off real estate and "finance". Not sad to see this dude living in a hotel.
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Funny about all this and that is the recession/depression is beginning to lead me to believe that now that time has passed that it is deliberate

The Creditors give credit at v high interest rates then reels in the credit when the interest can't be met

Last I heard it was at 18 cents to the dollar times that by one thousand you owe 180 dollars on top of that is the interest..The creditors gave anyone a card basically and expects it to work?

So all the debt mounts up of unpaid credit and the lenders get upset w the creditors. The creditors raise the rates again to cover the debt owed to the lenders..I don't know what it is now..

I just don't know but I do know the peeps are without home or bread
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
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the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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The Garza family moved to the Costa Mesa Inn in August, after the husband, Johnny, lost his job at Target, his wife, Tamara, lost her job at Petco, and they were evicted from their two-bedroom rental."

people who work at target and petco should not be having kids.

i spent november and december in a cute fully furnished hotel room, free cable and internet and it was pretty fun.
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~At 45 Im still a hot babe; It just comes in flashes now.

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If they brought home the US armed forces,this country would/could turn it all around.
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The tragedy is that so many repos are left empty and thieves and vandals destroy them. In my area, there are lots of abandoned business and residential properties going to waste. Government assistance could be used wisely by and renovating unused space. Instead, it's just another way for the scam artists to make a buck at the expense of everybody else.
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temp aid in motels is wiser .these people must one day stand on thier own two feet ..not stay joined to aid for life ..
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The tragedy is that so many repos are left empty and thieves and vandals destroy them. In my area, there are lots of abandoned business and residential properties going to waste. Government assistance could be used wisely by and renovating unused space. Instead, it's just another way for the scam artists to make a buck at the expense of everybody else.

temp aid in motels is wiser .these people must one day stand on thier own two feet ..not stay joined to aid for life ..
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precisely why if the gov required the lenders to refi all toxic loans (see my earlier reply post) most of these ppl wouldnt be homeless
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Instead of giving trillions to banks, they could've cut every mortgage in America in half, and subsidized the rent of the rest.
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Wow. Motels must be cheap in America.
Here in Sydney the cheapest around are Formule 1 and they are about $70 a day times that by 7 days and there is no way that would be an option for most people.

Cheaper to stay at a caravan park.
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If you can get the funds to live in a motel...

you're not really homeless now are you.
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Wow. Motels must be cheap in America.
Here in Sydney the cheapest around are Formule 1 and they are about $70 a day times that by 7 days and there is no way that would be an option for most people.

Cheaper to stay at a caravan park.
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hun its more here a day over a hundred at most places. i imagine a monthly reduced rate would be applicable tho.
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If you can get the funds to live in a motel...

you're not really homeless now are you.
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All of this is reffered to as "reverse redlining". Citibank of Britain does that to America on purpose.
Funny about all this and that is the recession/depression is beginning to lead me to believe that now that time has passed that it is deliberate

The Creditors give credit at v high interest rates then reels in the credit when the interest can't be met

Last I heard it was at 18 cents to the dollar times that by one thousand you owe 180 dollars of that is the interest..The creditors gave anyone a card basically and expects it to work?

So all the debt mounts up of unpaid credit and the lenders get upset w the creditors. The creditors raise the rates again to cover the debt owed to the lenders..I don't know what it is now..

I just don't know but I do know the peeps are without home or bread
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A Gulf Coast Veterans group I work with that tries to provide "Stand Downs" as source.

MS representative polled homeless veterans at Biloxi "Stand Down" last December;
Got told about 60 homeless veterans were living in the woods near the Biloxi VA Medical Center.
They estimated 3x as many non veterans also were living in those woods.
Katrina eliminated buildings for half a mile in from the beach and VAMC is within walking distance of the beach.

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>For the VA, Stand down is an annual outreach event to Homeless Veterans, and is held at cities across the nation. The goal is to help them access health care, mental health & substance abuse treatment, & other services. Food is served and material items are provided.<

The motels those families are living in are not the top ranked chains, but seedy older places with kitchenettes.
I've traveled for work, stayed in such places, and seen families with several children living in one motel unit: living/bed room, bathroom and kitchen.
Denied apartments they might afford because children of diferrent sexes must have separate bedrooms by community regulations and they cannot afford more than a one bedroom or efficiency apt.
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COSTA MESA, California: Greg Hayworth, 44, graduated from Syracuse University and made a good living in his home state, California, from real estate and mortgage finance. Then that business crashed, and early last year the bank foreclosed on the house he was renting, forcing his family's eviction.

Now the Hayworths and their three children represent a new face of homelessness in Orange County: formerly middle income, living week to week in a cramped motel room.

"I owe it to my kids to get out of here," Hayworth said, recalling the night they saw a motel neighbor drag a half-naked woman out the door while he beat her.

As the recession has deepened, long-time workers who lost their jobs are facing the terror and stigma of homelessness for the first time, including those who have owned or rented for years. Some show up in shelters and on the streets, but others, like the Hayworths, are the hidden homeless &#151; living doubled up in apartments, in garages or in motels, uncounted in U.S. homeless data and often receiving little public aid.

The Hayworths tried staying with relatives but ended up last September at the Costa Mesa Motor Inn, one of more than 1,000 families estimated to be living in motels in Orange County alone. They are among a lucky few: A charity pays part of the $800-a-month charge while Hayworth tries to recreate a career.

The family, which includes a 15-year-old daughter, shares a single room and sleeps on two beds. With most possessions in storage, they eat in two shifts, on three borrowed plates &#151; all that one jammed cabinet can hold. His wife has health problems and, like many other families, they cannot muster the security deposit and other upfront costs of renting a new place.

Motel families exist by the hundreds in Denver, along freeway-bypassed Route 1 on the Eastern Seaboard, and in other cities from Chattanooga, Tennessee, to Portland, Oregon. But they are especially prevalent in Orange County, which has high rents, a shortage of public housing and a surplus of older motels that once housed Disneyland visitors.

"The motels have become the de facto low-income housing of Orange County," said Wally Gonzales, director of Project Dignity, one of dozens of small charities and church groups that have emerged to assist families, usually helping a few dozen each and relying on donations of food, clothing and toys.

In the past, motel families here were mainly drawn from the chronically struggling. In 1998, an exposé of neglected motel children by The Orange County Register prompted the creation of city task forces and promises of help. But in recent months, schools, churches and charities report a different sort of family showing up.

"People asking for help are from a wider demographic range than we've seen in the past, middle-income families," said Terry Lowe, director of community services in Anaheim, California. The motels range from those with tattered rugs and residents who abuse alcohol and drugs to newer places with playgrounds and kitchenettes. With names like the Covered Wagon Motel and the El Dorado Inn, they look like any other modestly priced stopover inland from the ritzy beach towns. But walk inside and the perception immediately changes.

In the evening, the smell of pasta sauce cooked on hot plates drifts through half-open doors; in the morning, children leave to catch school buses. Families of three, six or more are squeezed into a room, one child doing homework on a bed, jostled by another watching television. Children rotate at bedtime, taking their turns on the floor. Some families, like the Malpicas, in a motel in Anaheim, commandeer a closet for baby cribs.

The Garza family moved to the Costa Mesa Inn in August, after the husband, Johnny, lost his job at Target, his wife, Tamara, lost her job at Petco, and they were evicted from their two-bedroom rental.

Their 9-year-old daughter now shares a bed with two younger brothers, their toys and schoolbooks piled on the floor. The couple's baby boy, born in April, sleeps in a small crib. Rental aid from U.S. and county programs reach only a small fraction of needy families, said Bob Cerince, coordinator for homeless and motel residents services in Anaheim, who estimated the families at more than 1,000.

President Barack Obama's stimulus package may give hope to more people and blunt the projected rise of families who could end up in motels and shelters, said Nan Roman, president of the National Alliance to End Homelessness in Washington. The package allows $1.5 billion for homelessness prevention, including help with rent and security deposits. Schools have made special efforts to help children in displaced families stay in class, and some send social workers to connect families with counseling services and food aid.

Wendy Dallin, the liaison for the homeless in one of Anaheim's seven school districts, said that in the last three months she had learned of 38 newly homeless families, bringing the total she knew of in her district to 376. About 48 of those families are living in motels, Dallin said, with the rest in shelters, renting a room or garage, staying with relatives or living in cars. At the same time, in California's budget crisis, some school social workers are being laid off.

Many motel residents have at least one working parent and pay $800 to $1,200 a month for a room. Yet even those with jobs can become mired in motel life for years because of bad credit ratings and the difficulty of saving the extra months' rent and security deposits to secure an apartment.

Paris Andre Navarro, 47, knows how hard it can be to climb back.

She and her husband used to have good jobs and an apartment in Garden Grove, near Anaheim. But they have spent the last three years with their 11-year-old daughter in the El Dorado Inn.

The bottom fell out when her husband's medical problems forced him to leave his job as a computer technician and her home-care job ended.

They were evicted and moved into the motel, and she started working the night shift at Target.

Last year, when Navarro's husband started a telemarketing job, they thought they might escape. That hope evaporated when her hours at Target were cut in half. What with the $241 weekly rent, the cost of essentials and a $380 car payment, they cannot save.

"Now we're just living paycheck to paycheck," Navarro said.

Their daughter, Crystal, tries to sound stoical. "What I miss most is having a pet," she said. The motel does not allow pets, so she gave away her cat and kittens.

Greg Hayworth, whose family has spent six dispiriting months in the Costa Mesa Inn, tried working in sales but has had trouble finding a lasting job. Paul Leon, a former nurse who formed the Illumination Foundation to aid motel families, has promised to help with a security deposit when the Hayworths are able to move out.

Hayworth's teenage daughter has had a difficult time because of the lack of privacy. She is too embarrassed to take friends home, and is uncomfortable dressing in front of her brothers, who are 10 and 11.

Not long ago, she was attacked at school by classmates who mocked her for living in a motel.

"I'd promised my daughter that we'd be out of here by her birthday," Hayworth said. "But that came last week, and we're still here."

"It really hurt me the other day," he added. "My son came home and asked, 'Are we homeless?' I didn't know what to say."
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

america went through many hard times .this is what people do in hard times .til. one day better times come . at least they have a "roof" heat air cable tv phone bathroom and pool ...and are together .
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jeeze - rents have become astronomical. ffs the mtg i used to have on my city property before it got paid off was like 300 a month - for a whole house.
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damn, you're old
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All of this is reffered to as "reverse redlining". Citibank of Britain does that to America on purpose.
Funny about all this and that is the recession/depression is beginning to lead me to believe that now that time has passed that it is deliberate

The Creditors give credit at v high interest rates then reels in the credit when the interest can't be met

Last I heard it was at 18 cents to the dollar times that by one thousand you owe 180 dollars of that is the interest..The creditors gave anyone a card basically and expects it to work?

So all the debt mounts up of unpaid credit and the lenders get upset w the creditors. The creditors raise the rates again to cover the debt owed to the lenders..I don't know what it is now..

I just don't know but I do know the peeps are without home or bread

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Shittybank should be proud of themselves they have helped turn America into a Dicken's novel.
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AC your one rude SOB.

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