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**Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**

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concerned
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3/13/2009 6:42 PM
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**Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**
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Tried to post on this several days ago AND was Banned!
I'm a 'paying' member, too.

They were 'ordered to CLEAN-UP this site years ago.
Has decaying-leaking storage containers.

Saddleback mtn is near but have seen nothing that appears to be a Caldera like Yellowstone.
Anyone know???
[link to www.pnsn.org]

**Could not post more examples, Got this error msg..
cannot use that many smilies in the message body.
Trying again.

map 1.5 2009/03/13 13:48:59 46.403N 119.281W 0.1 14 km ( 8 mi) NNE of West Richland, WA
map 1.0 2009/03/13 13:13:46 46.405N 119.268W 0.4 14 km ( 9 mi) N of Richland, WA
map 1.3 2009/03/13 12:32:43 46.403N 119.280W 0.4 14 km ( 8 mi) NNE of West Richland, WA
map 1.7 2009/03/13 12:31:16 46.396N 119.277W 1.5 13 km ( 8 mi) N of Richland, WA
map 2.4 2009/03/13 12:25:52 46.403N 119.282W 0.0 14 km ( 8 mi) NNE of West Richland, WA
map 1.1 2009/03/13 12:15:33 46.404N 119.269W 0.2 14 km ( 9 mi) N of Richland, WA
map 1.3 2009/03/13 10:39:09 46.401N 119.283W 0.2 13 km ( 8 mi) NNE of West Richland, WA
map 1.8 2009/03/13 10:33:14 45.371N 122.306W 22.4 4 km
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634343
Australia
3/13/2009 6:46 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

bump
The Commentator
User ID: 587619
United States
3/13/2009 6:49 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

This sort of very small tremor has been measured periodically at the Hanford site since at least 1970. They may well go back much earlier than that but the seismographs with enough sensitivity to measure such a small quake in such a limited area were not available earlier.

I would not be terribly excited.
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[link to www.tri-cityherald.com]

HANFORD -- About 300 small earthquakes have been detected at southern Hanford since Jan. 4 and the intensity has increased over the last week, said Alan Rohay, a seismologist at Pacific Northwest National Laboratory.

The largest was a magnitude 2.9 earthquake measured on Feb. 22, he said.

The swarm of quakes continued Wednesday, with the latest one at 2:19 p.m. a magnitude 0.4 earthquake.

There have been no reports of people feeling the earthquakes. But if someone had been within a mile of the fault during the quakes that approached magnitude 3.0, the person might have been able to feel them, Rohay said.

The quakes are occurring about eight miles north of Richland just west of the Columbia River about halfway between Hanford's 300 Area and Energy Northwest. The closest landmark is Wooded Island in the Columbia River, which is just north and east of the fault.

It's an area that has produced small quakes before, with similar swarms recorded in 1970, 1975 and 1988. In addition, smaller numbers of quakes -- 10 or 20 -- are recorded there every few years, Rohay said.

Monitoring for small quakes was not done for many years before 1970, so there's no telling how long the swarms have been occurring.

When the swarms occur, they usually tend to build up gradually and then gradually die off. Consequently, there's no telling if the earthquakes will continue to build or start to die off, Rohay said.

The quakes do not pose a risk to Hanford cleanup now, but if the national lab starts measuring quakes of a magnitude 4.0 -- which can cause moderate damage -- it will notify Hanford officials, he said. That's not expected to happen.

The fault is likely about 300 by 300 feet and less than a mile deep, Rohay said. Because of the thickness of the basalt rock layer at that depth, there's a limit to the magnitude of the quakes the fault produces, he said.

Bigger quakes would be more likely to result from faults that would be about six miles down where there is more crystalline rock such as granite.

The quakes near Wooded Island occur when basalt under stress reaches the breaking point and cracks. As one crack occurs, that shifts stress to adjoining rock that may also crack, creating a sort of chain reaction, Rohay said.

The Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory operates a network of seismograph stations through Eastern Washington mostly to provide information about the Hanford nuclear reservation.

Hanford produced plutonium for the nation's nuclear weapons program and was left contaminated with radioactive and hazardous chemical waste.

"We monitor the pattern of small earthquakes and use it to estimate how frequently larger earthquakes may occur," Rohay said.

The swarms this year near Wooded Island will add to the accumulated knowledge of the last 40 years, but it's just one element of observing the pattern of earthquakes in the area, he said.

Instrumentation and analysis have advanced since the program's early years, which will allow researchers to learn more about the swarms than they could about those recorded in the '70s.

Although Hanford has not been affected by the swarm of earthquakes, they have been noted at the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory at Hanford. It uses highly sensitive equipment to detect movement caused by gravitational waves from space.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"
Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 254206
United States
3/13/2009 6:52 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

It is also next to the Yakima Military Res.
Training Range. I noticed a few alluded to
this activity in response to other posts,
but I was banned (for no apparent reason) and
could not discuss this.
There must be over 100 eqs there now but I
could include only a few examples.

Please take link and CHECK IT OUT.
This is UNprecedented.
If it is military practice (bombing) how/why
can it be nearly atop a Nuclear Facility??
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 254206
United States
3/13/2009 7:00 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote


This sort of very small tremor has been measured periodically at the Hanford site since at least 1970. They may well go back much earlier than that but the seismographs with enough sensitivity to measure such a small quake in such a limited area were not available earlier.

I would not be terribly excited.
-------------------

Oh REALLY...You ever lived or been downwind
from any Nuclear Facility??

Two sites (in the recent past)cited for clean-up
CONVENIENTLY BURNED UP...So they didn't have to bother clean-up!!!

It is not on the computer I'm on now and don't feel
like looking it up. I'm sure a resourceful glper
would have the info available.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634362
United States
3/13/2009 7:17 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

the article itself sounds like a whitewash
""nothing to see here""

dont mind commentator op most everyone on here
knows who oils his palms

u have every right to be concerned- thanks
The Commentator
User ID: 587619
United States
3/13/2009 7:21 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

This sort of very small tremor has been measured periodically at the Hanford site since at least 1970. They may well go back much earlier than that but the seismographs with enough sensitivity to measure such a small quake in such a limited area were not available earlier.

I would not be terribly excited.
-------------------

Oh REALLY...You ever lived or been downwind
from any Nuclear Facility??

Two sites (in the recent past)cited for clean-up
CONVENIENTLY BURNED UP...So they didn't have to bother clean-up!!!

It is not on the computer I'm on now and don't feel
like looking it up. I'm sure a resourceful glper
would have the info available.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206



As a matter of fact, I used to work at the Hanford facility and lived downwind of it for 29 years.

Read the piece i posted. Clearly you have no idea of the size of the Hanford facility or how minor these tremors are, and who, aside from you, mentioned anything about a fire connected with this shaking?
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"
Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill
The Commentator
User ID: 587619
United States
3/13/2009 7:21 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

the article itself sounds like a whitewash
""nothing to see here""

dont mind commentator op most everyone on here
knows who oils his palms

u have every right to be concerned- thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 634362



Really? Want to present some proof?

Didn't think so.

You fail yet again, kid.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"
Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill
The Commentator
User ID: 587619
United States
3/13/2009 7:27 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

It is also next to the Yakima Military Res.
Training Range. I noticed a few alluded to
this activity in response to other posts,
but I was banned (for no apparent reason) and
could not discuss this.
There must be over 100 eqs there now but I
could include only a few examples.

Please take link and CHECK IT OUT.
This is UNprecedented.
If it is military practice (bombing) how/why
can it be nearly atop a Nuclear Facility??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206



You were probably banned for being an aggressive fucktard.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"
Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634362
United States
3/13/2009 7:27 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

just noticed commentater must have been sitting
on that article----"expecting it wre you mr c?"
he had it up and posted 7 min after your post.

lends credence for more investigation imho
serious situation here
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 575068
United Kingdom
3/13/2009 7:48 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

me he he he , google search slow tonight lol 7 mins
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 254206
United States
3/13/2009 7:52 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

no one connected FIRE and thses Hanford eqs
common tator EXCEPT YOU

clean your breath potty mouth and read it AGAIN

ps..so why'dja move after 29 years?
Contamination no doubt.

my father was a contractor at Hanford for several
years. died of stomach cancer. as did many of his crew
with various types.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634341
United States
3/13/2009 7:53 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

sleeping dragon.
/thread
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 254206
United States
3/14/2009 12:29 AM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

anticipating a bumpy ride to the truth
The Commentator
User ID: 587619
United States
3/14/2009 1:20 AM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

just noticed commentater must have been sitting
on that article----"expecting it wre you mr c?"
he had it up and posted 7 min after your post.

lends credence for more investigation imho
serious situation here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 634362



Google is my friend. But too bad for you, you have to be able to read and think to use it. No wonder you failed.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"
Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill
The Commentator
User ID: 587619
United States
3/14/2009 1:21 AM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

no one connected FIRE and thses Hanford eqs
common tator EXCEPT YOU

clean your breath potty mouth and read it AGAIN

ps..so why'dja move after 29 years?
Contamination no doubt.

my father was a contractor at Hanford for several
years. died of stomach cancer. as did many of his crew
with various types.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 254206



Since the apple does not fall far from the tree, I can only assume he had his head up his ass just like his kid. That explains the cancer. Pull your head out of your ass and the same fate may not befall you. But that would probably take a team of horses to accomplish when you know how hard it is jammed up there.

How do you explain the cancer deaths in people who have never been around a nuke facility.

Leaving was easy. better job offer, something that will never happen to you. After all, one burger flipper is just like another.

Guess you didn't read the earlier quote. Not surprising, your lips get tired if you read too much:

Two sites (in the recent past)cited for clean-up
CONVENIENTLY BURNED UP...So they didn't have to bother clean-up!!!

It is not on the computer I'm on now and don't feel
like looking it up. I'm sure a resourceful glper
would have the info available.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"
Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill
Is45
User ID: 627693
United States
3/14/2009 2:34 AM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

bump


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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 621404
Australia
3/14/2009 3:03 AM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

An harmonic tremor - in the article it says since january - is movement of magma.

How far is Rainier from you, OP?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 607893
Canada
3/15/2009 3:17 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

This sort of very small tremor has been measured periodically at the Hanford site since at least 1970. They may well go back much earlier than that but the seismographs with enough sensitivity to measure such a small quake in such a limited area were not available earlier.

I would not be terribly excited.
-------------------

Oh REALLY...You ever lived or been downwind
from any Nuclear Facility??

Two sites (in the recent past)cited for clean-up
CONVENIENTLY BURNED UP...So they didn't have to bother clean-up!!!

It is not on the computer I'm on now and don't feel
like looking it up. I'm sure a resourceful glper
would have the info available.



As a matter of fact, I used to work at the Hanford facility and lived downwind of it for 29 years.

Read the piece i posted. Clearly you have no idea of the size of the Hanford facility or how minor these tremors are, and who, aside from you, mentioned anything about a fire connected with this shaking?
 Quoting: The Commentator

I just love the way you debunkers seem to know about everything...you happen to live near what the questioner is posting, worked at it or you always seem to know someone who has experienced something..like building a shelter because they thought the world was ending...So convenient. you people are very transparent and fooling no one. What will you know when the Earth stops rotating? What excuses will you have then?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 634211
United Kingdom
3/15/2009 3:20 PM
Re: **Any Geologists here today? Harmonic Tremors near Hanford Nuclear Site?**Quote

'I just love the way you debunkers seem to know about everything...you happen to live near what the questioner is posting, worked at it or you always seem to know someone who has experienced something..like building a shelter because they thought the world was ending...So convenient. you people are very transparent and fooling no one. What will you know when the Earth stops rotating? What excuses will you have then?'

yes, that IS weird, isn't it?

lol
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