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Anonymous Coward User ID: 617083 Canada 03/16/2009 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of you totally missed the point of this thread. I was simply sick of people being so sure of themselves when they say there is no God. There is no way that they can know that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636292I am sick of people being so sure of themselves when they say there IS a God. There is no way they can know that. Is that "stupid" enough for you? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 636292 Canada 03/16/2009 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of you totally missed the point of this thread. I was simply sick of people being so sure of themselves when they say there is no God. There is no way that they can know that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 334860NO, NO! The only thing atheists are sure of, is that theists have NOT PROVEN that a god DOES exist. It really isn't about any god, it's about the nonsensical arguments that theists use to claim there is one. We're getting hung up on definitions. I see our problem now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 334860 United States 03/16/2009 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me answer this again because I like you and think that you are special: I did not say I could prove that God exists. However, you can neither prove that God does not exist. Therefore, I say there are no true atheists, because you cannot claim to know for sure, just as no one can be completely gnostic, but through faith, which cannot be proven. There's an old saying, "Absence of evidence, is evidence of absence." There's another old saying: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." You're trying to make an argument based on a false equivocation of blind probability, kind of like saying that there's a 50/50 chance that the Tooth Fairy is real. Atheists have the "high ground" in the god debate. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 617083 Canada 03/16/2009 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636292A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. Ohh jeeez, how can this be? OP you told me God was not religion (although that's not what I said), and yet, here you are, with the definition of the word "God" and the definition has the word "religions" in it. Tsk, tsk. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 636292 Canada 03/16/2009 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me answer this again because I like you and think that you are special: I did not say I could prove that God exists. However, you can neither prove that God does not exist. Therefore, I say there are no true atheists, because you cannot claim to know for sure, just as no one can be completely gnostic, but through faith, which cannot be proven. There's an old saying, "Absence of evidence, is evidence of absence." There's another old saying: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." You're trying to make an argument based on a false equivocation of blind probability, kind of like saying that there's a 50/50 chance that the Tooth Fairy is real. Atheists have the "high ground" in the god debate. Well, you've got me. I still don't understand how you can know. I could see how one could reserve judgment, but to know for sure, I don't understand. Just because it can't be proven does not mean it isn't reality. But nice talking to you. Sorry if I was rude. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 636292 Canada 03/16/2009 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God Quoting: Anonymous Coward 617083A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. Ohh jeeez, how can this be? OP you told me God was not religion (although that's not what I said), and yet, here you are, with the definition of the word "God" and the definition has the word "religions" in it. Tsk, tsk. Haha, I missed that. What I meant was God was not contigent upon religion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 334860 United States 03/16/2009 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agnostic Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636292One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something. The word "atheist" is taken from the Latin word "atheos," merely meaning "without god." For centuries, theists have attempted to define atheists in unflattering ways to smear their character, when in fact, they are nothing more than rationalists. OP, all you're trying to do here is to "split a hair" and somehow end up with a "tow rope," --- it's just not going to work. I'm going to bed. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 636292 Canada 03/16/2009 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agnostic Quoting: Anonymous Coward 334860One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something. The word "atheist" is taken from the Latin word "atheos," merely meaning "without god." For centuries, theists have attempted to define atheists in unflattering ways to smear their character, when in fact, they are nothing more than rationalists. OP, all you're trying to do here is to "split a hair" and somehow end up with a "tow rope," --- it's just not going to work. I'm going to bed. I agree. Goodnight. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 636292 Canada 03/16/2009 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP you are a moran. you dont know, you believe... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 631421believe is not knowledge. so maybe god decided to make you think that atheists are stupid, because he saw that you should go to hell. And the atheists make party in heaven. what a bs lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 636626 Australia 03/17/2009 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are muslims and hindu's atheist? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 635117No. well.....if you're going to accept others interpetations of gods image as valid, then i would suggest to you that most atheists aren't simply stupid, rather they haven't had the testimonial experience required to believe. in the U.S. it stands to reason that it is more difficult to have a meaningful transcedent experience through a modern xtian religion due to the fact that it is based on a culuture that exists half the world away. IMO there would be much more believers in a creator/creatress if the teachings were based upon the environmental and cultural geography (animals plants etc.) that the aspirants inhabit. seems to me the stupid ones are the teachers and preachers.....if god is omnipresent then nature seems to me to be the most equipped teacher. it isn't god they deny it's indoctrination. Your forgetting something. We are nature. So you could be saying we (humans) are the most equipped teachers? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 597443 United States 03/17/2009 02:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636292A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. you summed it right there. god is nothing but a creation of mens' minds |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 636626 Australia 03/17/2009 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "We don't know how He does it," said Junior High School teacher, Mrs Doris Whitaker, "but Jesus changes the colors of the leaves on the trees during the Fall (a season named after the fall of man from Eden, which had no autumn colors). No science book will tell you that. But it is clear that Jesus is behind the pretty colored leaves that drop off the trees as piles of trash on your lawn! Why else are only the Christmas trees left green? So they can be decorated on His birthday, that's why! Praise!" Mrs. Whitaker expressed a long-held Baptist belief that science cannot explain natural phenomenon. "For years, Congress has been able to force scientists to label their disgusting work as fiction," said Pastor Deacon Fred. "But we don't think that's good enough. It's not called "Science Fiction" for nothing folks. So-called science is just a big pile of secular lies made up solely to take the credit away from God. There is no other way of putting it! They need to stop calling it Biology, Chemistry, Astronomy, and Physics. Do they think that the people of God are going to stand by like idiots and let them rot this country's education system with a mythology spawned by hoofed demons in the fiery caves of Hell?" One does not have to have a degree in Theology to see the Devil's hot red hands in this plot. It was only a matter of time before scientists would start trying to pawn off their silly stories as "truth." Christians know that scientists have never cared, nor will they ever care, one iota about "the Truth." Because truth can't be found in the light of a Bunson Burner. It can only be seen in the Light of God's Word. And that is only found in the Bible. The Bible will tell you that God did not make man from so-called carbon; He made him with dirt. Quoting: Lord Kramdar 336256Today's scientists have taken a turn for the worse. Their mysterious campaign of deception was no doubt designed by several demons of the highest order, armed with Al Gore's calculator and more than likely orchestrated by the hoofed satyr, Lucifer, himself. Science is a "fuzzy math" and a blood-bought Baptist must have a spirit of discernment to see through secular science's toxic cloud of confusion. They mislead the public by creating different names for themselves. They say, "I'm a psychologist," or "I'm a therapist or microbiologist." Poppy-cock! That's what it is. They are nothing more than Satanists with spectacles and pockets full of pencils and rulers. In fact, the word "scientist" is actually Latin for "Satanist." Do they take Christians for fools? Jesus told us that we need to become like children if we want to get into Heaven. You see, Jesus doesn't want us to get puffed up with so-called education and knowledge, which is why He has anointed George W. Bush. Scientists would have you believe that salvation can be found in the accumulation of knowledge. They say that "knowledge" will set you free. This is hogwash according to our Lord and Savior. Through Jesus, we know that all knowledge outside of the Holy Bible is a lie. A child could tell you that! During this time of Thanksgiving, science has yet to provide an explanation as to why there are still so many turkeys available after they were all killed last year. We will tell you why: Jesus blesses us with those turkeys, end of story. We don't need to read a book to find out where they come from! They come from Jesus! And if those skinny, knock-kneed Africans had the presence of mind to come up with a holiday that centered around eating, instead of collecting shrunken heads, Jesus would give them food so they wouldn't starve, too. Ask and you shall receive! We can't understand how people fall for science. Do you know where scientists say that "ice" comes from? They say that when water gets cold, it huddles together for warmth. They say this "molecular body heat" stops the water from shaking so it becomes still. Can you believe how stupid secular scientists are? God's Word offers another explanation – the true explanation. "Jesus wants us all to be Christlike - - and what better way than to be able to walk on water? Praise His name!" How long will Christians be subjected to ridiculous notions about where rain comes from, what causes hurricanes (Would you believe that scientists blame them on a man called Nino living in Peru? It's outrageous! But they really believe it!), why there are floods and droughts, what causes sinkholes, where oil comes from (scientists will tell you oil and coal come from fern trees – try getting either substance from trees!), how food suddenly appears each day in the aisles of grocery stores, how gasoline makes cars "go," how houses get warm during the winter, how light comes out of little glass bulbs (or even how those glass bulbs are made!)." As Christians, we don't have silly stories or some bizarre mythology to explain the Truth. We know that Jesus is up in heaven, living on a cloud, sitting on a golden throne. If He rustles His silver robes, the Sahara gets a sand storm. If He flicks a drop of perspiration off His furrowed brow, those little folks in Tokyo find themselves under 10 feet of water. Secular scientists go crazy about a few little factories belching smoke, saying it causes acid rain and holes in the erogenous zone. But I have news for you, if the Lord just lets out just one tiny pooty-poot, it is like 4,000 Mount St. Helen's blowing a dark hole straight through the sky." This is satirical isnt it? |
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anonymous coward. User ID: 571992 United States 03/17/2009 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks. I get it now. Some people are really outside of the realm of God. It's not that God doesn't exist, it's that God doesn't exist for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636292And I'm sure they will understand when God says that they don't exist for Him, any longer. Praise God that He is so patient with the sons and daughters of men. For now. |
TheRoaminGnome User ID: 617952 United States 03/17/2009 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't make them stupid. They operate from the same rules as the rest of us...free will, making stupidity a "choice". ...Glad I could clear that up... *This reply is no threat, nor is it meant to be misunderstood nor construed, twisted, bent or otherwise shaped into something it is not. It is not idle nor deliberate nor meant to be taken in any kind of way that would implicate anything other than thoughts of marshmallow clouds, spring mountains or anything else pleasant, yet not illegal. Also note anything you say or do in reply, whether positive, pissed off, bent out of shape or distressed in any human form (disregarding on record mental illnesses) can be held against you in a court of law. Let it further be known that if someone leaves a response that I find derogatory, I reserve the right to piss and moan, cuss, kick objects that don't breath, (sorry PETA) and throw a general temper tantrum without be held responsible for any actions I may say or act out upon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 626334 United States 03/17/2009 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you "religious" people make me laugh. i thought your religion(s) teach/taught you not to judge people.. yet i read your responses and those that call themselves religious are spewing hateful and judging remarks... i'm sure your god would be so proud of you and how your spreading the meaning of "his" word... your overbearing proclamations in this thread have given me a wonderful laugh today - thank you... |
rodm User ID: 562070 United States 03/17/2009 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes religious folks, or churchianity as I call it, is an enemy of God...Real believers (The ones that Jesus "Calls" and "Claims as HIS own") they are known by their fruit, so they should not be hateful or mean. If they are they should repent and ask your forgiveness. As far as not being a Christian because of some church people or religiuos people...Well don't let that stop you in your quest for God. ITS BETWEEN YOU AND HIM, not You, Him, and Others...You stand alone in this road of choice. Possibly Jesus is someone you feel, trying to get your attention. Don't be distracted by others... you "religious" people make me laugh. i thought your religion(s) teach/taught you not to judge people.. yet i read your responses and those that call themselves religious are spewing hateful and judging remarks... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 626334i'm sure your god would be so proud of you and how your spreading the meaning of "his" word... your overbearing proclamations in this thread have given me a wonderful laugh today - thank you... |