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Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!

 
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Didnt the tether broke during the deployment? I remember it broke into 3 parts.

Anyway, I have seen these CD like things in several space (and not only space) videos. I think they have to do with the lense.
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On the tether video, there are hundreds of these objects moving in all directions, clearly this rules out being some sort of optical effect from the camera lens.
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Make your mind up, on the previous page it was out of focus dust, now its lens flare??

Can you please stick to one story.
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nah, he/she can't...that's what shills or hardcore skeptics do when they're desperate and when their silly lil' sheeple worldview is about to break up...
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hmmmmm

The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed
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The gunslinger has breached 14%
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hmmmmm

The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed


The gunslinger has breached 14%
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uh huh

and how do u know?

sure- lets say I feel it too - how do YOU know?

And tell me about the 14% us or them?
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The gunslinger has breached 14%
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We had forty pages of this shit a couple of months ago.

So kindly fuck off!!
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Didnt the tether broke during the deployment? I remember it broke into 3 parts.

Anyway, I have seen these CD like things in several space (and not only space) videos. I think they have to do with the lense.


On the tether video, there are hundreds of these objects moving in all directions, clearly this rules out being some sort of optical effect from the camera lens.
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I mean they could be the small broken parts or "dust" as someone said.

What do you think? Could, all these huge things we see coming down, be alien spaceships?
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wow some of you cant really follow complex conversations.

Tether video = dust motes

I didnt see any that actually went behind it. I saw quite a few whose diffraction wasn't string enough to eclipse what is essentially a true white object ( the tether ) being lit by the sun. In addition, the idea of using youtube compressed videos to prove anything is real is comedic. If you study up a bit on high compression you'll find that high contrast boundaries manifest all sorts things when compressed highly, so assessing the depth of field of things like that off youtube is simply a fail. You are viewing white against black with motion vectoring in a compression whose zone boundaries are all square. You might as well count all the gray blocks in the still frames and use numerology to prove its an alien.

Docking bay video = Lens flare from a spheroid prism.

Prove it: lemme get s space station and I'll get right back to you on that. Otherwise, look in a toy microscope and de-focus just behind of in front of dust. You'll see literally identical shaped objects ( I actually saw someone do this and claim they were aliens hidden from us and he had actually discovered the truth). In the meantime you keep hammering away at those bulletin boards and the truth will come out. really it will.

There are some VERY compelling videos out there that i cant find any fault with. There are a couple of objects viewed from the shuttle that seem to be changing direction and velocity as a response to flashes. The official explanation was "debris" but it was nonsense. Debris doesn't change velocity and direction in response.

You seem to be under the impression I DON'T think there are aliens, which is your own assumption and mistake. I just try to separate the hysterical non-evidence from viable unexplained occurrences. Thats a trait I have yet to see much of on here. Mostly its Jupiter igniting, Nesara and Neburu stuff. You can show people a picture of Jupiter right where it should be, and it just becomes a trick to hide the REAL burning Jupiter.

If you don't want facts, you can find whatever you are looking for.
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I mean they could be the small broken parts or "dust" as someone said.
 Quoting: Ostria

c'mon...make up yer mind. first you say it's lens flare, now ya say it's dust and side with the shills and hardcore skeptics, despite the lack of evidence for those obviously ridiculous claims.
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did you just ask how HUNDREDS of dust particles managed to get between the space shuttle and a tether 12 miles long? HUNDREDS of dust particles? wow. the magnitude of hundreds of dust particles in miles of space is daunting I agree.

Well, maybe not. Its dust. Its everywhere. Theres actually a small cloud of it that travels with the ISS. As the ISS sweeps a path through what used to be empty, it impacts millions of particles an hour. Through static charges, friction and the loss of energy to the impacts there is a growing cloud around the ISS. Gradually this cloud will start to adhere to the station. Eventually the solar panels will have to be cleaned, but it will probably be safer and easier to replace them. In a few million years of stable orbit, the dust would accumulate enough that it would start to decay the orbit unless other forces were used. In a few more millions of years, hey look a small moon. Again, basic astrophysics.

You can demonstrate this most of this for yourself with a microscope and some slides if you cared, but its prolly much more fun seeing aliens in every video than finding out that we've ONLY put a group of people and an object the size of a football field permanently in space. There's no payoff to actually having rational science explain things. It just creates belligerence. You want UFOS in every video, so science be damned, you'll find them. I suppose really that's best for those who want to make sure no one sees them. If they let anything through, you'll be the first to shout about it and who the hell but people here will believe it.

Sort fact from fiction people. Actually knowing the difference will be the only weapon you have against those hiding one or selling another.

Id love to see the aliens reacting to us seeing every lens flare and diffraction artifact as proof of a government coverup of their existence. If I were them, I'd wait until we were smarter than that too......

I'll sit back and wait for all the insults and sycophantic nonsense of people looking for a support group instead of answers.
 Quoting: antisoshal 420394


No Insult... quite logical, actually. However, now you have me wondering why satellites haven't been plunging like crazy due to dust?

Is there any logic to explain why satellites are immune to the dust collecting phenomenon?
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it venus reflecting of some swamp gas abduct
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All it is, is a blurry round object. If you could actually see close-up in it that little green men are controlling it, then maybe we would have something here.

Otherwise, that blurry round image could be explained by many different things.
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wow some of you cant really follow complex conversations.

Tether video = dust motes

I didnt see any that actually went behind it. I saw quite a few whose diffraction wasn't string enough to eclipse what is essentially a true white object ( the tether ) being lit by the sun. In addition, the idea of using youtube compressed videos to prove anything is real is comedic. If you study up a bit on high compression you'll find that high contrast boundaries manifest all sorts things when compressed highly, so assessing the depth of field of things like that off youtube is simply a fail. You are viewing white against black with motion vectoring in a compression whose zone boundaries are all square. You might as well count all the gray blocks in the still frames and use numerology to prove its an alien.

Docking bay video = Lens flare from a spheroid prism.

Prove it: lemme get s space station and I'll get right back to you on that. Otherwise, look in a toy microscope and de-focus just behind of in front of dust. You'll see literally identical shaped objects ( I actually saw someone do this and claim they were aliens hidden from us and he had actually discovered the truth). In the meantime you keep hammering away at those bulletin boards and the truth will come out. really it will.

There are some VERY compelling videos out there that i cant find any fault with. There are a couple of objects viewed from the shuttle that seem to be changing direction and velocity as a response to flashes. The official explanation was "debris" but it was nonsense. Debris doesn't change velocity and direction in response.

You seem to be under the impression I DON'T think there are aliens, which is your own assumption and mistake. I just try to separate the hysterical non-evidence from viable unexplained occurrences. Thats a trait I have yet to see much of on here. Mostly its Jupiter igniting, Nesara and Neburu stuff. You can show people a picture of Jupiter right where it should be, and it just becomes a trick to hide the REAL burning Jupiter.

If you don't want facts, you can find whatever you are looking for.
 Quoting: antisoshal 420394

facts are only facts if they're PROVEN with hard and irrefutable EVIDENCE. you make CLAIMS. and claims are no facts...if at all, they're YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION and nothing more.

again shill/hardcore skeptic tard:

prove it or loose it...else kindly fuck off.
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As usual nasa = never a straight answer
Hey nasa stop lying to us and tell us the truth
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I mean they could be the small broken parts or "dust" as someone said.

c'mon...make up yer mind. first you say it's lens flare, now ya say it's dust and side with the shills and hardcore skeptics, despite the lack of evidence for those obviously ridiculous claims.
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I dont have to make up my mind. I say that it is an effect of the lense on these small pieces that passby.
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All it is, is a blurry round object. If you could actually see close-up in it that little green men are controlling it, then maybe we would have something here.

Otherwise, that blurry round image could be explained by many different things.
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lmao, stop it please...i'm laughing so hard my stomach hurst laugh
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All it is, is a blurry round object. If you could actually see close-up in it that little green men are controlling it, then maybe we would have something here.

Otherwise, that blurry round image could be explained by many different things.
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lmao, stop it please...i'm laughing so hard my stomach hurts laugh
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All it is, is a blurry round object. If you could actually see close-up in it that little green men are controlling it, then maybe we would have something here.

Otherwise, that blurry round image could be explained by many different things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 584255

another shill or hardcore skeptic tard...or just the same idiot with ANOTHER proxy server.

either way, i'm outta here...it's useless to talk to idiots in large groups...oh my.
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wow some of you cant really follow complex conversations.

Tether video = dust motes

I didnt see any that actually went behind it. I saw quite a few whose diffraction wasn't string enough to eclipse what is essentially a true white object ( the tether ) being lit by the sun. In addition, the idea of using youtube compressed videos to prove anything is real is comedic. If you study up a bit on high compression you'll find that high contrast boundaries manifest all sorts things when compressed highly, so assessing the depth of field of things like that off youtube is simply a fail. You are viewing white against black with motion vectoring in a compression whose zone boundaries are all square. You might as well count all the gray blocks in the still frames and use numerology to prove its an alien.

Docking bay video = Lens flare from a spheroid prism.

Prove it: lemme get s space station and I'll get right back to you on that. Otherwise, look in a toy microscope and de-focus just behind of in front of dust. You'll see literally identical shaped objects ( I actually saw someone do this and claim they were aliens hidden from us and he had actually discovered the truth). In the meantime you keep hammering away at those bulletin boards and the truth will come out. really it will.

There are some VERY compelling videos out there that i cant find any fault with. There are a couple of objects viewed from the shuttle that seem to be changing direction and velocity as a response to flashes. The official explanation was "debris" but it was nonsense. Debris doesn't change velocity and direction in response.

You seem to be under the impression I DON'T think there are aliens, which is your own assumption and mistake. I just try to separate the hysterical non-evidence from viable unexplained occurrences. Thats a trait I have yet to see much of on here. Mostly its Jupiter igniting, Nesara and Neburu stuff. You can show people a picture of Jupiter right where it should be, and it just becomes a trick to hide the REAL burning Jupiter.

If you don't want facts, you can find whatever you are looking for.

facts are only facts if they're PROVEN with hard and irrefutable EVIDENCE. you make CLAIMS. and claims are no facts...if at all, they're YOUR OWN PERSONAL OPINION and nothing more.

again shill/hardcore skeptic tard:

prove it or loose it...else kindly fuck off.
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okaay then why dont you prove that its an alien craft?

im sure its not a ufo.
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wow some of you cant really follow complex conversations.

Tether video = dust motes

I didnt see any that actually went behind it. I saw quite a few whose diffraction wasn't string enough to eclipse what is essentially a true white object ( the tether ) being lit by the sun. In addition, the idea of using youtube compressed videos to prove anything is real is comedic. If you study up a bit on high compression you'll find that high contrast boundaries manifest all sorts things when compressed highly, so assessing the depth of field of things like that off youtube is simply a fail. You are viewing white against black with motion vectoring in a compression whose zone boundaries are all square. You might as well count all the gray blocks in the still frames and use numerology to prove its an alien.

Docking bay video = Lens flare from a spheroid prism.

Prove it: lemme get s space station and I'll get right back to you on that. Otherwise, look in a toy microscope and de-focus just behind of in front of dust. You'll see literally identical shaped objects ( I actually saw someone do this and claim they were aliens hidden from us and he had actually discovered the truth). In the meantime you keep hammering away at those bulletin boards and the truth will come out. really it will.

There are some VERY compelling videos out there that i cant find any fault with. There are a couple of objects viewed from the shuttle that seem to be changing direction and velocity as a response to flashes. The official explanation was "debris" but it was nonsense. Debris doesn't change velocity and direction in response.

You seem to be under the impression I DON'T think there are aliens, which is your own assumption and mistake. I just try to separate the hysterical non-evidence from viable unexplained occurrences. Thats a trait I have yet to see much of on here. Mostly its Jupiter igniting, Nesara and Neburu stuff. You can show people a picture of Jupiter right where it should be, and it just becomes a trick to hide the REAL burning Jupiter.

If you don't want facts, you can find whatever you are looking for.
 Quoting: antisoshal 420394



I agree, the youtube video of the tether is not very good quality, there are much beter ones out there. I'll see if I can find one, as the ones I saw clearly had these objects moving both in front and behind the tether thus discounting the dust hypothesis.
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First Contact Soon!
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Satellites ARENT immune to dust. The same effect occurs around them. The time it will take to disable solar panels and/or accumulate to the point of disabling is long enough that we simply haven't reached that point yet. Most of what we make simply wont last long enough to see that day. The mass and area covered by the ISS are several magnitudes of order larger than any other object we have put in orbit, so the effect of particles is also amplified. Even as a static accumulator, its surface area and mass for storing a charge dwarfs anything else we have up there, so in shear static electomotive charge alone the forces are huge. Now add the effects of solar radiation causing ionization and a buildup of charge on the sunward side, and I wouldn't be surprised to see charged particles doing spirals and cartwheels in the interaction between fields.

You cant just watch the cheato crumbs next to your mouse and apply it as field motion physics in vacuum.

If you took a Vandegraff generator back to the dark ages, you'd be called a warlock for making someones hair stand up.

I'm a shill for knowing some rather basic science in its otherwise absence. It's really all about what you are looking for: Encouragement and support, or answers.
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I wasn't aware swamp gas could get that high up in the atmosphere.
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Is there any possible way that someone can pause the vid... screenshot a few pics... and post them??

There are a few of us here that can't access the vid (restrictions:)...

We would like to throw in our 2 cents, but need material.

If it's the damn cornea looking phantom lens flare relected from light hitting dust and reflecting back on lens like the tether video... don't bother!

Hopefully you have seen what a parabolic lens flare looks like? If that is what this is (again), then you guys DO need an optics lesson or 2.

Anyways, thanks for helping... if you can!
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looks like water droplets on the glass/window/lens.

in fact, i've seen a similar effect on my DVX100, a sweet camera. The smallest bits of moisture will move around on a cold/wet/windy day.
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That's not a "UFO"; that's a Living Sylph, a disembodied Soul of no-doubt great age and wisdom.

And furthermore, the Looking Glass and the Orion Constellations methods for looking into the future do no and cannot ACCOUNT for the activity of Sylphs (and Rods).

Ta da!
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bump
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by the way, I love the "prove it or shut up" comment. If that were even REMOTELY valid in this case, this board would be empty. I hardly think that your lack of knowledge about optics and science precipitates to a valid argument "Prove that's not a flying saucer, or shut up."

Classic. But next time throw in a few more insults so the image of you frothing at your keyboard entertains me more.
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you all are nuts. it was me! mwahahaha.
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Satellites ARENT immune to dust. The same effect occurs around them. The time it will take to disable solar panels and/or accumulate to the point of disabling is long enough that we simply haven't reached that point yet. Most of what we make simply wont last long enough to see that day. The mass and area covered by the ISS are several magnitudes of order larger than any other object we have put in orbit, so the effect of particles is also amplified. Even as a static accumulator, its surface area and mass for storing a charge dwarfs anything else we have up there, so in shear static electomotive charge alone the forces are huge. Now add the effects of solar radiation causing ionization and a buildup of charge on the sunward side, and I wouldn't be surprised to see charged particles doing spirals and cartwheels in the interaction between fields.

You cant just watch the cheato crumbs next to your mouse and apply it as field motion physics in vacuum.

If you took a Vandegraff generator back to the dark ages, you'd be called a warlock for making someones hair stand up.

I'm a shill for knowing some rather basic science in its otherwise absence. It's really all about what you are looking for: Encouragement and support, or answers.
 Quoting: antisoshal 420394


Agreed.

Static will have made the dust move weird... like in the tether vid.

I even watched (with dismay) the UFO Hunters reproduce the same effect. (Thought the floating corneas looked familiar!)

You're no shill.

I've been known... but this principal is soo basic that it is just redunkulous.

OP!! Prove me wrong! I can't watch the video... someone post some pictures!!

But I swear that if it is the stupid cornea lens flare I will call you all FOOLS!!!!!