Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,148 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 434,261
Pageviews Today: 584,085Threads Today: 114Posts Today: 2,738
06:20 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!

 
teal
User ID: 634792
Canada
03/17/2009 04:05 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
[link to www.coasttocoastam.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 636986
United States
03/17/2009 04:07 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE DEBUNKERS


Anonymous Coward
User ID: 526868
United States
03/17/2009 04:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
alien11 ufo56

Take me to your leader


alien03

yawn
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 636999
United Kingdom
03/17/2009 04:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
Satellites ARENT immune to dust. The same effect occurs around them. The time it will take to disable solar panels and/or accumulate to the point of disabling is long enough that we simply haven't reached that point yet. Most of what we make simply wont last long enough to see that day. The mass and area covered by the ISS are several magnitudes of order larger than any other object we have put in orbit, so the effect of particles is also amplified. Even as a static accumulator, its surface area and mass for storing a charge dwarfs anything else we have up there, so in shear static electomotive charge alone the forces are huge. Now add the effects of solar radiation causing ionization and a buildup of charge on the sunward side, and I wouldn't be surprised to see charged particles doing spirals and cartwheels in the interaction between fields.

You cant just watch the cheato crumbs next to your mouse and apply it as field motion physics in vacuum.

If you took a Vandegraff generator back to the dark ages, you'd be called a warlock for making someones hair stand up.

I'm a shill for knowing some rather basic science in its otherwise absence. It's really all about what you are looking for: Encouragement and support, or answers.


Agreed.

Static will have made the dust move weird... like in the tether vid.

I even watched (with dismay) the UFO Hunters reproduce the same effect. (Thought the floating corneas looked familiar!)

You're no shill.

I've been known... but this principal is soo basic that it is just redunkulous.

OP!! Prove me wrong! I can't watch the video... someone post some pictures!!

But I swear that if it is the stupid cornea lens flare I will call you all FOOLS!!!!!
 Quoting: White Hat 525020


dude, static would cause an object to do one off flicking/bouncing movements in space, i have seen objects with my own eyes and on random youtube videos yes..but, i do alot of visual maths in my study and work and when you see something do 3-4 mathmatical movements and just dissapear..it makes you think

don't judge my english.
antisoshal
User ID: 420394
United States
03/17/2009 04:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
neat meteor shower. I like the lightning too. If youre interested, read up on sprites and upper atmosphere lightning. The power is amazing and we know very little about what causes it.

Didn't really see anything there that defied explanation given that the imaging was mostly in infrared and this the heating from the sunlight makes everything show up as huge and white on an otherwise cold backdrop. In the visible spectrum most of those meteors wouldnt be visible. You'll see some particles fade in and out as their path changes. Textbook example of something that looks inexplicable to the average person but is the status quoe.

There are some similar videos where some of the "meteor" change direction, leaving their tales visible. I've yet to see any science based explanation of that. I cant really imagine what one could be. Even static fields cause parabolic motion, not right angle turns.
antisoshal
User ID: 420394
United States
03/17/2009 04:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
static wouldn't just make things bounce. Objects are attracted to opposite fields, and that force would create parabolic path changes. Now add the pact that the fields change quite a bit from second to second and the paths can get VERY complex. The eddy (read up on eddy currnts) currents flowing on the skin of the ISS would also create some serious magnetic fields that would change constantly. You are talking about masses of less than 1000th of a gram floating in a vacuum so the strength needed to affect change are minute and at that scale changes happen constantly. Again, this isnt static from rubbing your feet on the rug. Same principle, but WAY different scale. At any given moment your body has a continuously changing static and magnetic field. Its dwarfed by your phone, the power lines in the room, and mostly by the air around you. If you remove all of that, including the air, then watch the dust react to only these subtle changes, its cool.

There's a reason why we want to put labs in space, you know. Stuff reacts differently up there. You can look at simple things and see much more elegant behavior.

This has actually been done before, by people who wanted to prove if they could be ufo's. its duplicatable. just not interesting to people who need a daily dose of UFO conspiracy.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 212646
Canada
03/17/2009 04:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
1 star for you!

alien03
butt
Shaun

User ID: 567273
United States
03/17/2009 04:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
i knew our star friends would show up on this flight!(if that's a lightship,i dunno what it is)

i knew it..

hugs for them and you all:)
~we(me,kalindi,nimai and our unborn) need some help.
[link to blogs.myspace.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 464050
Canada
03/17/2009 04:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
ufo hunters attempted to debunk these craft by saying it's just an optical illusion that comes from the camera filament or something like that. I say BS, I have a high quality copy of "The Secret NASA Transmissions" and these craft are REAL. They are all over the skies all the time. Size wise they're about the size of the ships from Independance Day and smaller down to the size of a standard bomber plane.
TonyClifton

User ID: 633302
United States
03/17/2009 04:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
there is a lot of junk floating around up there but interesting video.
Tony
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25698
Canada
03/17/2009 04:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
I sent the video to a friend working at the space agency and he told me that he could not identify that flying object!!!
anonymous
User ID: 637007
United States
03/17/2009 04:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
 Quoting: teal 634792

it is only a ufo to civilians ..drone aircraft is used to monitor on the ground activities which relay images to ground site computers .some have weapontry . go back to sleep this tactic is common now ...alians are not coing to get you ...alians are hollywood fantasy movies as are demom movies ...........................they sell well.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 637014
Switzerland
03/17/2009 04:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
static wouldn't just make things bounce. Objects are attracted to opposite fields, and that force would create parabolic path changes. Now add the pact that the fields change quite a bit from second to second and the paths can get VERY complex. The eddy (read up on eddy currnts) currents flowing on the skin of the ISS would also create some serious magnetic fields that would change constantly. You are talking about masses of less than 1000th of a gram floating in a vacuum so the strength needed to affect change are minute and at that scale changes happen constantly. Again, this isnt static from rubbing your feet on the rug. Same principle, but WAY different scale. At any given moment your body has a continuously changing static and magnetic field. Its dwarfed by your phone, the power lines in the room, and mostly by the air around you. If you remove all of that, including the air, then watch the dust react to only these subtle changes, its cool.

There's a reason why we want to put labs in space, you know. Stuff reacts differently up there. You can look at simple things and see much more elegant behavior.

This has actually been done before, by people who wanted to prove if they could be ufo's. its duplicatable. just not interesting to people who need a daily dose of UFO conspiracy.
 Quoting: antisoshal 420394


Homework well done in all your posts, congrats!

thumbs
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 636963
United States
03/17/2009 04:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE DEBUNKERS



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636986



No it won't, just the way the cookie crumbles. People will disagree.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 569125
Greece
03/17/2009 04:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
make up your mind shill. first it's ice, then it's lens flare, then its dust and now it a "neat meteor shower". don't you realize, that your statements contradict them selfs?
Tone
User ID: 637021
United States
03/17/2009 04:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
Debunking the ice crystal and debris explanation for NASA UFOs

[link to blogs.myspace.com]
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 569125
Greece
03/17/2009 04:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
my favorite is still the "freeze dried donut" from youtube lol
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 625624
United States
03/17/2009 04:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
does it really matter? you either know ufos are real or not. you either know there really is something strange going on up there or not. i could care less if said object is a ufo or not...still enough strange going on...
Ostria

User ID: 636984
Greece
03/17/2009 04:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
make up your mind shill. first it's ice, then it's lens flare, then its dust and now it a "neat meteor shower". don't you realize, that your statements contradict them selfs?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569125


just give us a break. We try to find a reasonable explanation on these. You dont think there is a fleet of huge ufos out there at least from 1996 on, do you?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414223
United Kingdom
03/17/2009 04:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
THANK YOU!!!

I SAW IT LIVE!! MATCH IT UP WITH THIS!!


saw it live too, and recorded it :D
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569125

Well done admitting to the shills you recorded it. Bye bye op.
antisoshal
User ID: 635487
United States
03/17/2009 04:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
When did I say Ice?

Never really understood the Ice thing. In an almost vacuum, the boiling point of water is pretty damn near "NOW". Sunlight heats the surface of any solid object rapidly, and any "ice" would boil off rather quickly. There's not much water floating around out there looking for a mixed drink.

Comets are a great example of this. They are just huge ice blocks evaporating at an enormous rate. They gain a bit of an "atmosphere" that slows the process down a bit. Ice on a small scale like what would accumulate on the shuttle during the climb wouldn't last through the friction of takeoff.

The only occurring ice at the ISS is shortly after firing attitude thrusters. On the shade side of the ISS ice can accumulate for short periods, I've read. It has shown up in some shuttle footage where adjustments to orbit have been made while the bay was open. It's always behaved somewhat like you think it should, when Ive seen it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 637023
United Kingdom
03/17/2009 04:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
Now we all know now why they had to get off the space station greys alens swarm the ISS.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 569125
Greece
03/17/2009 04:54 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
make up your mind shill. first it's ice, then it's lens flare, then its dust and now it a "neat meteor shower". don't you realize, that your statements contradict them selfs?


just give us a break. We try to find a reasonable explanation on these. You dont think there is a fleet of huge ufos out there at least from 1996 on, do you?
 Quoting: Ostria

i'm talking to antisocial. sure go ahead and try to find silly excuses to give your mind some rest and sleep. i don't blame you, most people can't handle that stuff anyway.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 637029
United Kingdom
03/17/2009 05:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
[link to www.youtube.com]
Ostria

User ID: 636984
Greece
03/17/2009 05:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
make up your mind shill. first it's ice, then it's lens flare, then its dust and now it a "neat meteor shower". don't you realize, that your statements contradict them selfs?


just give us a break. We try to find a reasonable explanation on these. You dont think there is a fleet of huge ufos out there at least from 1996 on, do you?

i'm talking to antisocial. sure go ahead and try to find silly excuses to give your mind some rest and sleep. i don't blame you, most people can't handle that stuff anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 569125


well ok. I m a ufo fan, but I dont think these are ufos.
anyway did you check the asteroid breaking news here?
Thread: Asteroid 2009 DO111 (Page 3)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 637029
United Kingdom
03/17/2009 05:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 637029


to proove usa is shooting ufos!!!!
antenna
User ID: 617652
United States
03/17/2009 05:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
I don't see anything in the first posted vid...but the rest...

I think we call them "souls" here on Earth.

I say "souls" because I have seen with the naked eye what seemed identical to the glowing, moving & pulsating orbs.

I know what I (and 3 others) witnessed was in fact a retreating "soul".

A child miscarried....and the distraught mother worried if the soul was okay. As the mother sat in her wheelchair,the heavens opened...our ear pressure changed and it we all got a light show in the sky.

All who watched were in amazed as it grew out of the darkeness....danced around a bit to get her attention,and then once it had her attention(and ours)...it pulsated...it danced(you could feel it saying here I am....I'm here...seee...look at me...I'm fine...)it vibrated...
pulsated...flickered...then it discharged an extremely bright crystal like light and then it went away. I think it tired. It ave a final curtsey an then it collapsed onto itself...sucking air pressure with it. Our ears could hear it POP as it left and our ears were draining earwax fluid afterwards.

Literally, this orb of light gave a show...and responded to mental questions and thoughts of the mother. The others just witnessed the event but the mother truly interacted with this orb. Her sorrowful was eased after this...smart orb.

The behavior in the vdeo seems similar to that experience. I get the same "feeling" just watching them.


I'll put my money on these "UFOrbs" are unmanifested souls.

Souls being born and souls leaving bodies. Others just hanging around....re-energizing...checking in on fam and friends.

Energy LIVES.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 635573
United Kingdom
03/17/2009 05:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
once again, rather basic optics. you are looking at an object who's distance from the observer is measured in nautical miles. The magnification on the camera is rather HUGE. now pass small debris and dust ( a small cloud of which follws the ISS in orbit) and sidelight that with the brightest light we know of ( the sun). The fuzzy patterns and size of the objects are cause by diffraction ( read up on it). You can duplicate this by holding you hand up to a light then making the gap between your fingers as small as possible. You will start to see multiple gaps and multiple lines. As the gap, or the object, approaches a multiple of the wavelength of the light present, it bends slightly when passing the object creating regular appearing fuzzy edges. You can demonstrate this with a microscope (almost everyone has. Put a dirty slide on and focus just beyond the plate: instead of fine particles you'll get HUGE elaborate designs that look astonishingly like what you see in this video. The camera is focused on the tether, not the dust in between. This is mostly child splay for anyone with some decent science knowledge. I'm amazed by how easily people will buy into ridiculous explanations for simple phenomenon.
 Quoting: antisoshal 420394

:5:
levski

User ID: 318585
Bulgaria
03/17/2009 05:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
FFS PPL ITS A WEATHER BALLOON , NEXT !!!

fo' sure! in space! like a sun dog...in SPACE too! YAY!!!!

phunny chit!lmao

op, u haz pin! thx mods!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 595676


Swamp gas?
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 622062
United States
03/17/2009 05:15 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: Just on Nasa TV! STS119 Discovery encounters UFO!
speculating that is a ufo, how about a solar sail? the round part could be the sail, we are seeing it lit, so its probably decelerating with the sail facing away from the sun, the small bulb could be the craft attached to the sail

[link to library.thinkquest.org]

News








Proud Member Of The Angry Mob