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I have Toxic Mold POISONING - Ask Me A QUESTION!

 
divinegoddess

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11/30/2012 01:17 AM
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To poster above me. Regular drs for the most part don't know enough about mold poisoning. I survived it. It's hell. No prescription medication can get rid of it! Yes basically the candida diet is partly helpful because mold illness feeds of sugars and starches but its not the complete answer by any means. First get out of the mold environment! Seek a dr in environmental medicine only! and tell them you suspect you have mold poisoning.
Just moved and my notes research on what to take are in a box. But what I can tell you is its a long list of vitamins and minerals that you must take about $200 worth a month. No prescription medicine works!!! Recovery takes 1-2 years. I will try to get list from California dentist I sent it to who wanted my list after hearing a bit of the hell I went through getting well and to help their own patients and friends. In the mean time take Reishi ( the only mushroom one can eat while recovering because its drying) avoid all other mushrooms. Rhodiola too will help as well as Shilajit.
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11/30/2012 10:12 AM
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To poster 17926276
From what both my MD and ND whoes fields of
Expertise is toxicology/neurotoxicology/ environmental
Is that what you are doing wrong is prescription
Anti-fungals do not work for mold poisoning!
Check out this link of Dr's
presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html
These MD's specialize in mold

From my own experience
Cats Claw - great from bronchitis/pneumonia (if that's all it is)
But to me there seems a strong possibility you may have mycotoxicosis
Because you have quiet a few symptoms I had and I definetly was exposed to massive amounts of mold and VOC's
Volatile Organic Compounds

? Are you still in environment with mold?
Get out! If you are.
Both my Dr's gave me same exact protocol list which I will try to find ASAP
The both stated at that time aprox 2002 or 2003 that there was no prescription cure! Only to follow long list of vitamins and minerals. Was all they knew of when I was sick with mold / mycotoxicosis etc

Yet other things in the meantime that will help
Dry (only dry) saunas and sunlight as much as possible - UV sauna if u can find is even better.
Yes candida is a moisture illness according to TCM- traditional Chinese medicine so both drs recommended staying away from sugars, starches
dried fruits and mushrooms because all these cause dampness illness.
So in a many ways related and often symptom that can go along with mold poisoning.

(only exception in TCM) is Reishi mushroom


This I added to my regime/list because its an anti- cancer mushroom that has drying effects on body. Shilajit an Ayurvedic herb also is drying
Both Reishi in TCM and Shilajit in Ayurvedic are medicine that are considered master herbs from each respective field.
Kings of their respective realms of medicine and drying!!!

Avoid ! Green food as in Spirulina, chlorella , seaweeds these are moistening herbs along with Aloe Vera juice- do not do.
Rhodiola is a great herb used by Russians Chinese and Tibetan medicines
For many healing adaptogenic qualities that will help with the depression that comes with detoxing from mold. It's. super oxygenator ! So will help in many ways regain strength and energy
Rhodiola, Reishi and Shilajit all are amazing super food super adaptogenic
Meaning helps with many illnesses
For example if I had COPD from mold Rhodiola would be 1st thing I would take since it delivers oxygen to lungs, brain and entire body.
If its more body aches Shilajit and needed body strength

Reishi is the #1 herb in TCM for its anti cancer properties
All 3 Rhodiola, Reishi and Shilajit can be taken safely everyday and are great even if you are not sick because all 3 are super- adaptogenic
Meaning helps with and prevent many major illness and used in treatment of many diseases. All three are drying which is essential because
Mold is over moisturing illness. They all improve brain function as well. There benefits are too long for me to list but plenty of info on Wikipedia and various health sites.


Original message - my advice sue!!! Because treating this and or getting rid of it in home and/or body can cost you thousands and can make life a living hell!
Dr's who are not neurotoxicologists/ environmental specialists/ and or toxicologist know - shit in my experience in regards to mold poisoning in general they will try and try to treat the individual symptoms to no avail and efficacy! mold poisoning attacks the whole auto-immune system! So if you already are sick or have allergies you will get sick but others who have robust auto-immune systems may not get sick and wonder why they are well and you are not!
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11/30/2012 10:14 AM
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To poster 17926276
From what both by MD and ND whoes fields of
Expertise is toxicology/neurotoxicology/ environmental
Is that what you are doing wrong is prescription
Anti-fungals do not work for mold poisoning!
Check out this link of Dr's
presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html
These MD's specialize in mold

From my own experience
Cats Claw - great from bronchitis/pneumonia (if that's all it is)
But to me there seems a strong possibility you may have mycotoxicosis
Because you have quiet a few symptoms I had and I definetly was exposed to massive amounts of mold and VOC's
Volatile Organic Compounds

? Are you still in environment with mold?
Get out! If you are.
Both my Dr's gave me same exact protocol list which I will try to find ASAP
The both stated at that time aprox 2002 or 2003 that there was no prescription cure! Only to follow long list of vitamins and minerals. Was all they knew of when I was sick with mold / mycotoxicosis etc

Yet other things in the meantime that will help
Dry (only dry) saunas and sunlight as much as possible - UV sauna if u can find is even better.
Yes candida is a moisture illness according to TCM- traditional Chinese medicine so both drs recommended staying away from sugars, starches
dried fruits and mushrooms because all these cause dampness illness.
So in a many ways related and often symptom that can go along with mold poisoning.

(only exception in TCM) is Reishi mushroom


This I added to my regime/list because its an anti- cancer mushroom that has drying effects on body. Shilajit an Ayurvedic herb also is drying
Both Reishi in TCM and Shilajit in Ayurvedic are medicine that are considered master herbs from each respective field.
Kings of their respective realms of medicine and drying!!!

Avoid ! Green food as in Spirulina, chlorella , seaweeds these are moistening herbs along with Aloe Vera juice- do not do.
Rhodiola is a great herb used by Russians Chinese and Tibetan medicines
For many healing adaptogenic qualities that will help with the depression that comes with detoxing from mold. It's. super oxygenator ! So will help in many ways regain strength and energy
Rhodiola, Reishi and Shilajit all are amazing super food super adaptogenic
Meaning helps with many illnesses
For example if I had COPD from mold Rhodiola would be 1st thing I would take since it delivers oxygen to lungs, brain and entire body.
If its more body aches Shilajit and needed body strength

Reishi is the #1 herb in TCM for its anti cancer properties
All 3 Rhodiola, Reishi and Shilajit can be taken safely everyday and are great even if you are not sick because all 3 are super- adaptogenic
Meaning helps with and prevent many major illness and used in treatment of many diseases. All three are drying which is essential because
Mold is over moisturing illness. They all improve brain function as well. There benefits are too long for me to list but plenty of info on Wikipedia and various health sites.


Original message - mu advice sue!!! Because treating this and or getting rid of it in home and/or body can cost you thousands and can make life a living hell!
Dr's who are not neurotoxicologists/ environmental specialists/ and or toxicologist know - shit in my experience in regards to mold poisoning in general they will try and try to treat the individual symptoms to little avail and efficacy!
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11/30/2012 10:16 AM
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Hmmm sorry for repeat post but oddly after mentioning bio weapons phone started acting up! Coincidence well I hope not. But my apologies phone posting problems.
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11/30/2012 03:59 PM
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To person who said Feels like your Dying!
Because having mold poisoning= your immune system is getting seriously wrecked and many forms of mold are neurotoxins!
Look up VOC it's stands for Volatile Organic Compund
It's attacking your whole body! I know I survived toxic encephalitis from mold and other environmental toxins
The anti fungal meds on top of that your idiot doctor who knows far too little about what deadly mold can do to you is giving you meds that can cause: side effects I looked up including liver failure/ jaundice and increased tendancy to bleed! Look it up yourself I just did and I'm shocked at all the nasty side effects of Nystatin, Diflucan and Ketoconozole
Damn these big pharma meds could be screwing you up more than the neuro toxic mold!!!
Some of the alternative ie natural herbs and supplements you are taking I'm not familiar with - thx for posting them because I will now learn them.
I love cats claw - king of South American herbs that can cure many things like cancer and HIV/aids possibly along with getting rid of nasty viral and bacterial infections. Most likely a drying herb
What's definately helping is the candida diet ! Because you are not feeding the mold poisoning with sugars and carbs! And the cats claw!
meds are messing you up on top of the probable mold poisoning!
Get off he meds and fire your doctor! See an environmental/ toxicologist specialist who deals with mold and other environmental illnesses ASAP

Ok so candida diet works because simpy its starving the mold out , the anti- fungal meds you may have been on for awhile are no longer affective and probably making matters worse! Yes worse!
Till you find your dr!
Dry saunas - uv light saunas are the best! Stay in as long and as often as you can stand! Lots of sunlight/ sunbathing!

Continue to avoid sugars and starches but you don't have to has strict as candida diet which btw can vary between doctors!
Possible may want to consider a colonic with ozone if you can find a practitioner. Cats claw may be helping greatly I've used that for bronchitis and bronchial pneumonia and it kicked it good years prior to having had severe toxic mold myself along with plastics and lead paint poisoning all at once over a two year time frame in combination! I'm lucky I have a brain along with now being vey healthy ten years later and ten years of research into all the ways it's effected my health. Look up foods that have drying/warming qualities!!! Traditional Chinese Medicine- TCM sites will help you identify these foods! And supplements that warm and dry!
So cooling/ dampening foods like fruits that are wet, are out but lemons ok. Green foods and green drinks - NO make mold worse! - spirulina/chlorella are green foods/drinks along with wheat grass!
I have a long list of supplements/vitamens/minerals in a box right now and the info on this list is not on the web in complete form that I've ever seen and it should be! I can't remember them all and precise dosages you need to take until I can pull it out of 2ft of paper/printed info I have on my own recovery process info. But I'm looking since Sandy victims will be facing this mold illness probably all too soon and unknowingly. I was lucky enough and researched enough to find Dr Ordog long b4 they tried - unsuccessfully to disbarr him from practice because he's an insurance companies #1 arch enemy protestor for mold dr! Who gave me my original list which is 1 1/2 pages long. He spoke with me and said basically your damn right most drs and the drs I saw at UCLA don't know jack shit about treating mold. Man treated agent orange and other neurotoxin exposure patients. His original website years ago was probably forcibly taken down! He protested with Alana Hamilton - George hamiltons wife and Biannca Jagger's - mick Jagger's (sp?) x wife because they both had mold poisoning! See Erin Brockovitch too because she survived mold after becoming famous too and has useful info on her mold nightmare too! As did Ed Mcmann.
Neway I moved ASAP and resettled someplace very dry , ozone generator cleaned all the things I kept.
? Do you rent or own? Very important !
So much more info I have am unpacking and digging thru boxes for at moment- just moved.
Dr's who know about mold (and there are truly very few well educated enought to know) I'm talking often pricey neurotoxicologists and environmental specialist - if your a veteran you may find some who know about neurotoxins from war veterans mine dealt with many!
Link go to presenting.net/sbs/molddoctors.html
Also see moldgoddess.com these women have lots of useful info - skip anti-depressant SSRI stuff for depression that most likely will occur during dextox and instead do Rhodiola see many health sites and Wikipedia for more about Rhodiola! Reishi mushroom the only safe mushroom to eat for the next year or 2 for you also is good and I added it to my list of vit/mineral supplents - the only things my MD and ND's told me to take both un-associated to each other and experts in environmental medicine.

When I tried to do some current research I found the AMA and CDC are burying info with their own watered down for the masses info that's basically lame Orwellian double speak for the masses of what really horribly many thousands who went thru Katrina and now thousands more from Sandy will be dealing with. Lame info like irritation, rashes and no conclusive evidence - my ass ! this is deadly neurotoxic poison - mycotoxicossis! No regular dr will do on the matter.
So ya know I'm just a humble LMT meaning licensed massage therapist who not only survived almost dying at least 3x from mold and toxicity illness. I spent tens of thousands on my own recovery and countless hours over last ten years discovering info I'd rather at this point not scare the shit out of you while your trying to get better from this deadly mold ! Ask any contractor about mold especially stachybotrys mold and he will say black mold = Black Death
It will take some time maybe as short as 6-9 mos to feel better but possibly a year or 2 or even 3 to fully recover! For me it's not 100% after ten years but pretty darn close.
Shilajit is also good I found in more recent knowledge and added to my list.
All the best and get well soon. Try and stay as positive as you can to get through!
divinegoddess
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11/30/2012 04:36 PM
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Can also give you answers! From a survivor perspective.
Discovered a new site while responding to mold ?'s
survivingmold.com see treatment and diagnosis for useful info. Found it on my phone so didn't see vids or go through all site. Also have no idea if he's similar or sincere or how $ he is but he does know what he's talking about in terms like cytokines mycotoxicosis / mycotoxins neuro toxins and seems knowledgeable from the perspective of a neuropsychological perspective. My concern is he may be like the Dr Amen corporation. Lets say I have a few friends who would like to rip Amens staff new a- holes after the expense they went through to be coerced into buying their products books etc. and whoes staff is unkind and disrespectful and uneducated in ethics in dealing with patients who can have have severe brain injuries and chronic life threatening brain illnesses! Yes the scans are interesting but everything my friends were hoping for was lacking and overpriced!!!!

Hopefully dr Shoemaker isn't from survingmold.com but I have yet to see all his info . He does post a page to many medical studies he derives info from and they should definately be looked up and useful if you can understand complex medical papers.
Certainly basic medical terms and layperson explanations are great on the upfront pages like treatment and diagnosis because if you want to know more about neuro toxic mold and healing from exposure you should learn terms like VOC's cytokines, mycotoxins etc and lay and terms for brain functions and effects toxins have that cause brain inflamation!
Ok have a good day
divinegoddess
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12/01/2012 04:00 PM
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To person who feels like they are dying! Well your immune system is being attacked by fungus/ mold and causing inflamation even to your brain. Cats claw will help because its an ant- inflammatory ! But this is not your total answer! Humaworm will not help unless you have intestinal parasites also.
Reservatrol will help because its an antioxidant and that will help the inflamation go down as antioxidants do help. Just in last year studies are finding links with brain inflamation and bi-polar and schitzophrenia disorders! This is amazing news/info IMHO.
See a toxicologist ! ASAP

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