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URGENT! Last Chance To Stop Obama's National Service Corps!

 
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Forget about freaking AIG for a day, and look at what’s important right this second! Up at bat in the Senate is H.R. 1388, Obama’s Civil Service Corps. The Gift Act. Debate is on, and there’s a procedural vote at 6pm. ET today. This is an ODIOUS piece of legislation, that will cost (they say) about $6 Billion. The cost is the least odious part of this bill.

CONTACT YOUR SENATORS IMMEDIATELY TO VOTE NO!

The newly created bureaucracy in the bill will, in my opinion, be Obama’s vehicle for a significant part of the job creation he’s promised America, and huge expansions of government into the workforce. It reserves the ability to make “service” mandatory. It prohibits, via Amendment 49, “volunteers” in the corps from teaching Sunday school, or supporting any faith-based organization. It steps WELL down the path of stripping our First Amendment right to assemble away; “volunteers” are prohibited from participating in any kind of protest or attempt to influence legislation. And it’s quite clear that faith-based organizations will NOT be getting any help from Obama’s new posse.

STOP the “GIVE Act” HB 1388.

Go to Congress.org to find your Senators. Toll free numbers for the Senate and House: 1-877-210-5351, 1-800-828-0498 switchboards:, or fax your Senators, and demand them to STOP the “GIVE Act” HB 1388/S3507

You can send FREE faxes here: [link to faxzero.com] Attach a .doc or .pdf file or type (copy - paste) text into the text form provided.
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Because you sure should give a shit!
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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Most of us have given up hope in exchange for the Obamanation. We are doomed



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I want to watch the Obamabots get inducted into national service and go through boot camp. Tell your senators to vote 'yes'!!!
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Most of us have given up hope in exchange for the Obamanation. We are doomed



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Doomed. Perhaps.

But lettuce not go down without making ourselves heard.

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Do NOT sit on your asses! Please! How hard is it to at least let them know what you want them to do? We piss and moan about everything they are railroading us with, and won't even get off of another website long enough to email our Senators? Some of us still think liberty is worth fighting for, no matter what you think the outcome of the fight will be! Come ON! Congress.org and type in your zip. Do you want your kid in the Obama youth? Do you want the ability to protest against ANYTHING, teach a religious class or support a faith-based organization if you choose to be GONE if you're a "volunteer"?

Get the fuck up.

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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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Thanks for the word up! Just e-mailed the servants!

Dear Senator Such and Such:

I disapprove of the pending GIVE bill, which seeks to establish mandatory civil service for youths. Where such a thing violates the "involuntary servitude" clause of our 13th Amendment. I feel that this legislation will be found unconstitutional if passed.

And seeing that America's young people act civilly, this is a function of parenthood and religion, not the government. Our Founding Fathers understood this when they wrote our Constitution.

Sincerely,

John Q. Public

That does not compute.
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Well, when those people knock on your door to sign that petition, give them a copy of the Obama Deception!

That should do it! banana2
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Good! The "Give" Act is going to give away our civil rights! Debate is on CSPAN 2 right now. Procedural vote begins at 5:45 PM Eastern. Here comes the freaking train.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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Do NOT sit on your asses! Please! How hard is it to at least let them know what you want them to do? We piss and moan about everything they are railroading us with, and won't even get off of another website long enough to email our Senators? Some of us still think liberty is worth fighting for, no matter what you think the outcome of the fight will be! Come ON! Congress.org and type in your zip. Do you want your kid in the Obama youth? Do you want the ability to protest against ANYTHING, teach a religious class or support a faith-based organization if you choose to be GONE if you're a "volunteer"?

Get the fuck up.
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Snark, set up a petition online fast.

[link to www.petitiononline.com]
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Why stop 'em? Those kids are going to do a lot of great work, cheap, and gain valuable life experience doing it.

Political and religious restrictions keep them from being used by their paymaster for nefarious purposes, and only last while they're in service, just like the military.

What's the big deal?
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Good news- there already is one! SIGN IT!!

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Good! The "Give" Act is going to give away our civil rights! Debate is on CSPAN 2 right now. Procedural vote begins at 5:45 PM Eastern. Here comes the freaking train.
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Unfortunately, my state's two Senators are a Democrat and a RINO who will vote for this gross present danger to the US Constitution.
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Why stop 'em? Those kids are going to do a lot of great work, cheap, and gain valuable life experience doing it.

Political and religious restrictions keep them from being used by their paymaster for nefarious purposes, and only last while they're in service, just like the military.

What's the big deal?
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A back door to make it mandatory, for one thing. I think true volunteering is vital to our country. People in the military can give support to their places of worship.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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Good! The "Give" Act is going to give away our civil rights! Debate is on CSPAN 2 right now. Procedural vote begins at 5:45 PM Eastern. Here comes the freaking train.


Unfortunately, my state's two Senators are a Democrat and a RINO who will vote for this gross present danger to the US Constitution.
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Bury them anyways. This is going to be a huge way Obama creates "jobs". Gotta get to that 3.5 milion magic number somehow!
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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[link to rightsoup.com]

Forget about freaking AIG for a day, and look at what’s important right this second! Up at bat in the Senate is H.R. 1388, Obama’s Civil Service Corps. The Gift Act. Debate is on, and there’s a procedural vote at 6pm. ET today. This is an ODIOUS piece of legislation, that will cost (they say) about $6 Billion. The cost is the least odious part of this bill.

CONTACT YOUR SENATORS IMMEDIATELY TO VOTE NO!

The newly created bureaucracy in the bill will, in my opinion, be Obama’s vehicle for a significant part of the job creation he’s promised America, and huge expansions of government into the workforce. It reserves the ability to make “service” mandatory. It prohibits, via Amendment 49, “volunteers” in the corps from teaching Sunday school, or supporting any faith-based organization. It steps WELL down the path of stripping our First Amendment right to assemble away; “volunteers” are prohibited from participating in any kind of protest or attempt to influence legislation. And it’s quite clear that faith-based organizations will NOT be getting any help from Obama’s new posse.

STOP the “GIVE Act” HB 1388.

Go to Congress.org to find your Senators. Toll free numbers for the Senate and House: 1-877-210-5351, 1-800-828-0498 switchboards:, or fax your Senators, and demand them to STOP the “GIVE Act” HB 1388/S3507

You can send FREE faxes here: [link to faxzero.com] Attach a .doc or .pdf file or type (copy - paste) text into the text form provided.
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Thank you very much for the link. Sent my .2 cents.
Straight up in few words I said "Mandatory service" is a euphemism. Draft is the term.

There are no good Drafts, and I am against any such policies. If he wants service he needs to couch it in incentives-not mandates. Such things will only serve to divide the Nation.
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the ObamaCorp won't stand a chance against angry ex-military - which is an ever-growing number
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Why stop 'em? Those kids are going to do a lot of great work, cheap, and gain valuable life experience doing it.

Political and religious restrictions keep them from being used by their paymaster for nefarious purposes, and only last while they're in service, just like the military.

What's the big deal?
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It's only going to be 3 months so you should have a shortened boot camp. Probably only 2-3 weeks. As long as the weather is good, it'll be a piece of cake. On the other hand if it starts raining hard half way through that 10 mile run well then it won't be much fun. Also don't wear a heavy sweatshirt during calestenics. If it rains, it gets awfully heavy during pushups.

But seriously, I think your really going to enjoy 3 wonderfull months at Camp FEMA.
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I already contacted my state's Senators' DC offices and asked them to vote "yes" on this legislation. The old legislation needs serious updating and this bill does what it is needed.

This bill is going to pass.
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And your new uniform.
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I already contacted my state's Senators' DC offices and asked them to vote "yes" on this legislation. The old legislation needs serious updating and this bill does what it is needed.

This bill is going to pass.
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Guess you think the government knows how to spend your charitable donations better than you do.
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The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis
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Why stop 'em? Those kids are going to do a lot of great work, cheap, and gain valuable life experience doing it.

Political and religious restrictions keep them from being used by their paymaster for nefarious purposes, and only last while they're in service, just like the military.

What's the big deal?


A back door to make it mandatory, for one thing. I think true volunteering is vital to our country. People in the military can give support to their places of worship.
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BS. There is nothing mandatory in this legislation.
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I already contacted my state's Senators' DC offices and asked them to vote "yes" on this legislation. The old legislation needs serious updating and this bill does what it is needed.

This bill is going to pass.


Guess you think the government knows how to spend your charitable donations better than you do.
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More BS. There is nothing in this legislation preventing people from donating to the charities of their own choosing.
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Why stop 'em? Those kids are going to do a lot of great work, cheap, and gain valuable life experience doing it.

Political and religious restrictions keep them from being used by their paymaster for nefarious purposes, and only last while they're in service, just like the military.

What's the big deal?


A back door to make it mandatory, for one thing. I think true volunteering is vital to our country. People in the military can give support to their places of worship.


BS. There is nothing mandatory in this legislation.
 Quoting: georgebushworstprezever 565924

What about "back door to make it mandatory" is confusing to you? The legislation says that it will consider making the service mandatory. Do you think this has no chance of ever happening? I volunteer. I've been on many mission trips. I think freely helping is one of the best things in the world to shape your own character as well as make a difference. I do not think the government should pick and choose what causes are better than others.
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I already contacted my state's Senators' DC offices and asked them to vote "yes" on this legislation. The old legislation needs serious updating and this bill does what it is needed.

This bill is going to pass.


Guess you think the government knows how to spend your charitable donations better than you do.


More BS. There is nothing in this legislation preventing people from donating to the charities of their own choosing.
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You didn't read hard enough, you idiot!

bsflag on your posts.
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Read Amendment 49 to the bill! That's exactly what it says if you're in the corps.

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I think it's an awesome idea! GO OBAMA!!
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wow that's some messed up stuff!

and I like how it's manditory, so of course that means EVERYONE cannot protest....

Nice.

do you have the link to the senate version of the bill?
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wow that's some messed up stuff!

and I like how it's manditory, so of course that means EVERYONE cannot protest....

Nice.

do you have the link to the senate version of the bill?
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Here is the link

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