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The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.

 
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The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
How could an Astronaut make a deeper print on the Moon than the lv?Secondly you need moisture in the soil to leave a footprint .Try making a footprint in soil that has no moisture,it is impossible.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
You come here so we can come up with reasons why the moon landing wasn't a fake.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
Sorry Neil Armstrong's fully suited weight on the Moon was 58 lbs. His boots covered an area of about one square foot, giving a load of 58 lbs/ft2 vs a LM mmmmm.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
You come here so we can come up with reasons why the moon landing wasn't a fake.
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Then you tell me why there was no dust on the Lunar module's legs.Why could we hear the astronauts talking but no engine noise on descent? I seek answers not hoax theories .
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
How could an Astronaut make a deeper print on the Moon than the lv?Secondly you need moisture in the soil to leave a footprint .Try making a footprint in soil that has no moisture,it is impossible.
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The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons, yet the astronauts' feet seem to have made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.

The hoax advocates often quote the weight of the Lunar Module as 16 to 18 tons (weights varied mission to mission). This was the LM's Earth weight when fully fueled and included about 9 tons of descent stage propellant. By the time the LM reached the surface, its weight in lunar gravity was only about 2,700 lbs. With four 37-inch diameter footpads, the load on the surface was about 90 lbs/ft2. Neil Armstrong's fully suited weight on the Moon was 58 lbs. His boots covered an area of about one square foot, giving a load of 58 lbs/ft2. In Armstrong's own words "the LM footpads are only depressed in the surface about 1 or 2 inches". On the other hand, the footprints of the astronauts were depressed only a fraction of an inch, although people often exaggerate their depth.

Moisture must be present in soil for it to form footprints, yet the Moon is a totally dry world.

The lunar surface is predominately composed of materials that fall under the general category of silicates. Silica has a natural tendency to bond with other silica, forming large molecular chains. When a meteoroid impacts the Moon, much of the energy goes into fracturing the surrounding structure causing breaks in the molecular bonds. On Earth, these "exposed" bonds quickly fill with oxygen in a process called oxidation or weathering. On the Moon, with a total lack of oxygen, these bonds have nothing to attach to until an event occurs that aligns the molecules. When an object, such as an astronaut's boot, disturbs lunar dust new molecular bonds are created. The new bonds enable the dust to hold its shape, forming an impression of the deforming object. Thus, footprints can form despite the absence of water.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap
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What? How many dockings of the ISS have been made? Many more than were done between Apollo LMs and CMs, and there has been what, one(?) mishap.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
Sorry Neil Armstrong's fully suited weight on the Moon was 58 lbs. His boots covered an area of about one square foot, giving a load of 58 lbs/ft2 vs a LM mmmmm.
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The answer is simple OP, the Lunar Modules in the fake moon bays were light-weight props, so that the ceiling cable wires could lift the LM prop at the fake mock lift-off.

Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 16 : Astronaut Says The LM Prop Cannot Fly- No Space With The Ceiling
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Astronaut Says The Lunar Module Prop Cannot Fly- Because There is Not Enough Space in The Fake Moon Bay Ceiling. The Lunar Module Prop Was Lifted Up in The Fake Moon Bay Ceiling By Hidden Cable Wires At The Lift-Off.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap
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What I want to know is, how come our heroes never once took off their helmets to have a sniff to see if it was ok to run around naked up there?
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap


What? How many dockings of the ISS have been made? Many more than were done between Apollo LMs and CMs, and there has been what, one(?) mishap.
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It isn't the same really. The LM landed on another planet, took off again and then redocked, all without mishap, all those parts working without fatal flaw, no mistakes made by pilots. Seems a bit unlikely.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap


What I want to know is, how come our heroes never once took off their helmets to have a sniff to see if it was ok to run around naked up there?
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They didn't need to take their helmets off to sniff the air in the fake moon bays at the Nevada Test Training Site. The astronauts had hidden holes in the helmets, close to their mouths, so they could breath & sniff normally.

Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 14 : Stagehand Reprimands An Astronaut For Blowing on A Work Tool
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You hear the Astronaut blowing on the work tool to clean it, the Astronauts had hidden holes in their helmet. The hidden holes were used for breathing, in the Fake Moon Bay Studio Simulation.

At :22 a stagehand is heard telling The Astronaut By Radio "The way your blowing on it's exceptionally criminal"
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap


What? How many dockings of the ISS have been made? Many more than were done between Apollo LMs and CMs, and there has been what, one(?) mishap.


It isn't the same really. The LM landed on another planet, took off again and then redocked, all without mishap, all those parts working without fatal flaw, no mistakes made by pilots. Seems a bit unlikely.
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Lot of weasel words there. There were no FATALITIES in any of the number Apollo launches (Apollo 1 was named posthumously for the crew). But that is far from saying each landing was flawless.

If your car worked as flawlessly as Apollo 11 (largest among the problems, a computer error that forced a manual landing, as well as an overflight, as well as a broken breaker switch that could have marooned them on the Moon if not repaired), or Apollo 14, (difficulty engaging the docking collar)...and, well, so on and so on, you'd be taking that car to a mechanic.

What the program did, is due to robust design, numerous back-up systems, long training, and a very skilled crew and support staff, is surmount thousands of flight problems and bring the spacecraft home safely.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
You come here so we can come up with reasons why the moon landing wasn't a fake.

Then you tell me why there was no dust on the Lunar module's legs.Why could we hear the astronauts talking but no engine noise on descent? I seek answers not hoax theories .
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And the Gish Gallop begins. What's the matter, OP? You thought your first salvo was too weak, too easily answered? Instead of replying to any of the kind replies, you instead come back with something completely unrelated.

Why should I even address your ignorant requirement that there be dust inside the pads? The moment I drafted a reply, you'd be back complaining about the lack of stars, or some other equally lame (and long-ago debunked) idea.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap
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Please show your math.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
First assumption: The lunar lander made a smaller imprint in the soil.

How can you tell? The pads are hemispherical. The ground is rough. The camera is never at ground level. Are you Carnac the Magnificent, who can see through a pad to see how deep the impression in in the soil?


Second assumption: the footprints from the astronauts are deep.

Again, what are you basing this on? The landings were made early in the Lunar morning. The sun was very low on the horizon. The impressions made were not inches deep.

This can be checked quite readily. The phase of the Moon on the landing date of Apollo 11 is discoverable, the time of the landing is known, therefor you can find what time of day it was on the Moon, therefore you can derive the angle of the sun, therefor you can calculate geometrically how deep the famous footprint is -- all without having to trust "NASA" with a single damned thing.


These are not attempts to dismantle an argument piecemeal. They are two direct descriptions of how the argument is so poorly thought out as to be unworthy of further work.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
How could an Astronaut make a deeper print on the Moon than the lv?Secondly you need moisture in the soil to leave a footprint .Try making a footprint in soil that has no moisture,it is impossible.
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
How could an Astronaut make a deeper print on the Moon than the lv?Secondly you need moisture in the soil to leave a footprint .Try making a footprint in soil that has no moisture,it is impossible.

BRAVO -- Keep thinking, and keep bashing science.

This secret society (Greek Gods worshipers) are the cause of of all our maleurs, they have ruled this planet by keeping our heads spinning when the earth doesn't move and have Greeked us with their math (National Debt) only to prostituted our children to become queers.


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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
It's statistically improbable that several successive landings and re-dockings of the lunar module could be made without mishap


What? How many dockings of the ISS have been made? Many more than were done between Apollo LMs and CMs, and there has been what, one(?) mishap.


It isn't the same really. The LM landed on another planet, took off again and then redocked, all without mishap, all those parts working without fatal flaw, no mistakes made by pilots. Seems a bit unlikely.



Lot of weasel words there. There were no FATALITIES in any of the number Apollo launches (Apollo 1 was named posthumously for the crew). But that is far from saying each landing was flawless.

If your car worked as flawlessly as Apollo 11 (largest among the problems, a computer error that forced a manual landing, as well as an overflight, as well as a broken breaker switch that could have marooned them on the Moon if not repaired), or Apollo 14, (difficulty engaging the docking collar)...and, well, so on and so on, you'd be taking that car to a mechanic.

What the program did, is due to robust design, numerous back-up systems, long training, and a very skilled crew and support staff, is surmount thousands of flight problems and bring the spacecraft home safely.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 641106

No there was 20,000 recorded faults.The blueprints were shredded .
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Re: The Lunar Module weighed about 17 tons,Armstrong 16lbs,He made a deeper impression in the lunar dust.
You come here so we can come up with reasons why the moon landing wasn't a fake.

Then you tell me why there was no dust on the Lunar module's legs.Why could we hear the astronauts talking but no engine noise on descent? I seek answers not hoax theories .


And the Gish Gallop begins. What's the matter, OP? You thought your first salvo was too weak, too easily answered? Instead of replying to any of the kind replies, you instead come back with something completely unrelated.

Why should I even address your ignorant requirement that there be dust inside the pads? The moment I drafted a reply, you'd be back complaining about the lack of stars, or some other equally lame (and long-ago debunked) idea.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 641106

If there is no atmosphere on the Moon then when the LM touches down the jets would have dispersed any dust.No dust would have settled in the pads like it would on Earth.The dust had no Space boots to keep it from floating away.

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