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CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.

 
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CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
Why be blamed for a complete collapse when you can blame N. Korea or Iran?

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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
Best time to do this....when a fake rally is managed for a time.
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
You may be correct....
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
May Day would be appropriate in many ways.
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
Interesting

An event in the Sea of Japan around April 6 would fit aptly.
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Interesting

An event in the Sea of Japan around April 6 would fit aptly.
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Right...that also.
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
There's an old soft shoe dance routine called "patter 'til ready" - I know many of you have seen it, but didn't know its proper name. I mention it as after watching the Obama press conference and dozing off several times, it appears that the economic tap dance just isn't ringing true to me. President Soetoro acts all serious, but it's like he KNOWS something a lot bigger (realllyyy BIG) is jest around the corner and pretty soon the economy and AIG and the Big 3 Automakers just won't mean a darn thing.
I can also feel it in the air and I definitely notice it and sense it in people. It's as if us humans know on a near cellular level the proverbial "other shoe" (not even a soft shoe or tap shoe) is just...about...to....DROP!!!!!!! So, be it April 6th or May 1st, I cannot say.
I would also think that out of this G-20 conference next week will come the word from China and Russia that they most definitely want a new world-wide reserve currency other than the U.S. dollar.
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hiding
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
[link to hypertiger.blogspot.com]

Hypertiger agrees....he's always saying....

"major event that will obscure it all..."
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bump
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Best time to do this....when a fake rally is managed for a time.
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Exactly!
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Best time to do this....when a fake rally is managed for a time.



Exactly!
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"..and just when it seems the markets were on their way to full recovery....(fill in blank)....happened and ruined it...." yada yada
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
May Day would be appropriate in many ways.
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"Mayday, Mayday, Mayday!"...."going down, going down!"
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"It's not our fault!"
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
[link to market-ticker.denninger.net]

Here's why a "massive event" must happen....

Even Denninger doesn't realize the way out of this mess to save face...
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
"Here's a dose of reality for you folks.

I am confident, in the 90th percentile, that none of this is going to work.

All of these clowns still believe you can treat a drunk with a case of whiskey.

We still have trillions of credit in the system that has to be defaulted or cleaned, The Fed can't print out of that without destroying the bond and currency markets and they know it, and even if they did, its the same as defaulting the debt in that the valuation hit is identical.

That is, even if they were willing to destroy the only thing they have to sell (and they're not) printing to that degree would do the same thing as defaulting the debt in terms of the actual purchasing power impact for the banks and government. This is a default by another name, and does the same thing to the people holding the debt who get paid in trashed dollars as does defaulting on them.

Meanwhile the banks appear to still think this trash is all "money good."

No amount of "easy money" will fix the system when you get to this point. The law of exponents makes that impossible. You can hope to get organic growth in the economy going again, but that's not going to happen either, except in the very short term by "filling in the debt cracks" - a strategy that looks nice on paper but fails in the real world.

I see a possibility of of this scheme meeting with success, but it requires absolutely everything to go right, and the odds of that happening are low enough that I discount the scenario. I must therefore prepare for something truly ugly, whether I want to or not."
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"No amount of "easy money" will fix the system when you get to this point. The law of exponents makes that impossible."

What will get our leaders off the HOOK?!!

Obfuscation and obscuration! And the best way to do that is......WAR TIME, BIG TIME!
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
Sorry to say...but what makes the most sense is to "WAR OUR WAY OUT OF THIS...."

I'm not sure I like the aftermath though...what will the world look like?
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Sorry to say...but what makes the most sense is to "WAR OUR WAY OUT OF THIS...."

I'm not sure I like the aftermath though...what will the world look like?
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We WOWOOT-ed (Warred Our Way Out Of This) last time in the 30's, and so there is a good chance of history repeating, but they may pull the trigger sooner this time.

WOWOOT!
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I'd watch April 1st - they are already warning about the computer virus - and who is to say DOD's computers have not been breached - hell they lose them all the time. Perfect excuse for military action
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
Another advantage of a MAJOR WAR is it resets ALL CONDITIONS, so that they can be rewritten....countries can be changed almost overnight...constitutions ended, etc.
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I'd watch April 1st - they are already warning about the computer virus - and who is to say DOD's computers have not been breached - hell they lose them all the time. Perfect excuse for military action
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All of the ducks are in place. We have the cardboard cut-out enemies lined up already...we have the peoples believing all of the propaganda (true and false) about the "axis of evil"...the stage is set....sorry...!
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Sorry to say...but what makes the most sense is to "WAR OUR WAY OUT OF THIS...."

I'm not sure I like the aftermath though...what will the world look like?


We WOWOOT-ed (Warred Our Way Out Of This) last time in the 30's, and so there is a good chance of history repeating, but they may pull the trigger sooner this time.

WOWOOT!
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Like WOWOOT! that may be catchy....
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Sorry to say...but what makes the most sense is to "WAR OUR WAY OUT OF THIS...."

I'm not sure I like the aftermath though...what will the world look like?


We WOWOOT-ed (Warred Our Way Out Of This) last time in the 30's, and so there is a good chance of history repeating, but they may pull the trigger sooner this time.

WOWOOT!



Like WOWOOT! that may be catchy....
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China will be "gifted" many new territories as payment somehow...I have to believe. Just like USSR in the 40's.
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
The only "good" part of this scenario is that we won't see "total collapse" in the USA, as most everyone will suddenly be on a different wavelength in "support of the war"....industry will suddenly be thrown into "full-steam" mode...etc.
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The draft WILL begin again...sorry to say....it's a must...because a certain amount of "liquidation" will have to be carried out, including Americans.
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If I were betting, I'd put 5-1 odds on this, just based on history.
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They are even warning us to plant, "Victory gardens, also called war gardens"...

ALL of the signs are here for MAJOR WAR.
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The draft WILL begin again...sorry to say....it's a must...because a certain amount of "liquidation" will have to be carried out, including Americans.
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Does War feel better than a Plague ? Cuz they are going to dwindle our numbers one way or another !

Hell funny how all this "Wacky" GLP stuff over the years is slowly evolvong into reality ....
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The draft WILL begin again...sorry to say....it's a must...because a certain amount of "liquidation" will have to be carried out, including Americans.
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bump !
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Re: CYA Event to come.....TPTB won't let things go to an uncontrollable collapse...they will launch WWIII as a covering event.....my guess.
Needs to happen before the 1st of May.





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