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Mike Wood walks out of the Red Dot Liquors store in Frankfort, Ky., with a case of beer. A sign outside urges patrons to call their legislators over a bill that imposes a 6 percent sales tax on all alcohol sales and doubles the tax on cigarettes.

LAWRENCEBURG, Ky. - Faced with huge budget holes, states from Connecticut to Arkansas are eyeing higher taxes on cigarettes and booze, infuriating consumers who say the goods are the last vices they've got to help cope with lost jobs, a deepening recession and overall economic misery.

In Pittsburgh, protesters dumped beer and liquor into a river after county officials approved a 10 percent tax on poured drinks. Patrons in Oregon bars downed brews while writing lawmakers to oppose a proposed beer tax increase. And in Kentucky, protesters poured bourbon on the Capitol's front steps to demonstrate their opposition to a 6 percent sales tax on all booze.

"The way things are going right now with the economy, the first thing people want to do is go get a bottle or a beer, and soak their sorrows," said Jack Weaver of Louisville, who gathered with other Teamsters in a union hall last month to rail against Kentucky lawmakers who voted to raise the taxes as of April 1.

Sin-tax increases to help balance budgets are nothing new, but the economic meltdown has legislators proposing them even in states like Kentucky, where alcohol and cigarettes have long been sacred cows. After all, it is famous for its bourbon whiskey and is a leading producer of tobacco used in cigarettes.

"Sin taxes have quickly emerged — as they did in the last recession — as one of the popular tactics that states have adopted to bring in the extra revenue in an environment where raising most other taxes are still pretty politically radioactive," said Sujit Canagaretna, a senior fiscal analyst for the Council of State Governments.

Cold turkey time?
Faced with an unprecedented $456 million revenue shortfall, Kentucky ignored protests and raised the taxes.

Arkansas increased its cigarette tax this month, and other states considering it include Connecticut, Florida, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina and Oregon. Other states — including California, New York and Hawaii — are also considering raising taxes on alcohol products.

The federal government has already increased the cigarette tax by 62 cents a pack to $1.01, and Kentucky doubled its state tax to 60 cents a pack. Together, the taxes will push average prices for name-brand cigarettes to as much as $44 a carton, a $10 increase.

"It's a little extreme," said Scott Harper, 63, a former helicopter mechanic now living on Social Security and Veteran's Administration benefits. "I'm going to quit. I'll have to."

Harper was trying to buy a carton of Swisher Sweets at Bo's Smoke Shop last week, but he had to settle for a pack because smokers have been flooding state tobacco stores to stock up before the tax increases.

Though some smokers and drinkers are angry, public health groups see it as an opportunity to convince people to give up their bad habits.

"This was an extremely popular public health initiative," said Tonya Chang, advocacy director for the American Heart Association in Kentucky. "When combined with the federal tax increase, we believe this will prevent more than 50,000 Kentucky children from becoming smokers and will help thousands of Kentucky adults who want to quit."

But opponents in both the legislature and the alcohol and tobacco industries say they're afraid the tax increases could lead to huge drops in sales, costing jobs and disappointing lawmakers with lofty revenue expectations.

"Ultimately, we all have limited budgets," said David Ozgo, chief economist for the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. "And if government is taking a greater share, that reduces what you can spend on yourself."

Even in years when states are flush with cash, Ozgo said, alcohol is a popular target for tax increases. But he said they sometimes backfire when people facing higher taxes drink less.

No sympathy
Records from the U.S. Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau show that a 1991 federal excise tax increase created a slight bump in revenues in 1992, followed by four years of decline, from nearly $3.9 billion to $3.6 billion.

State Rep. David Floyd, R-Bardstown, said the taxes could devastate Kentucky's alcohol and tobacco industries, which together employ some 6,000 people. Tobacco farms are seemingly everywhere in Kentucky, and bourbon distilleries dot the state's Bluegrass region.

"It's really easy for lawmakers to understand how giving tax breaks to an industry will help that industry," he said. "Why is it so difficult for them to understand that increasing taxes on an industry will hurt that industry?"

But despite the outrage in some quarters, University of Kentucky political scientist Stephen Voss said he doesn't expect much political fallout for politicians who vote to increase sin taxes, especially in the Bible belt.

"You rarely see a case where people campaign criticizing their opponents for taxing booze and cigarettes," he said. "Voters aren't going to show a lot of sympathy to the sin industry."
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don't FUCK with beer

but i don't understand dumping the stuff into the river...they ought to dump tax forms and loan bills
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damb cigarettes up to 5.15 a pack here. makin me wanna quit.
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It's good that the people are ired enough to protest but dumping their stuff is a waste.
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It's good that the people are ired enough to protest but dumping their stuff is a waste.
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No shit!Now they have to pay more to replace what they poured out and drink it to get the balls to go waste more.
What a job........
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They keep it up and people who are paying their car loans and mortgages will say fuck it and blow their cash on Chinese crap like the others are.


I hope everybody quits smoking and drinking for a week a year, then those assholds will see we mean business.


Unfortunately the small bar owner is the one who suffers
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It's good that the people are ired enough to protest but dumping their stuff is a waste.


No shit!Now they have to pay more to replace what they poured out and drink it to get the balls to go waste more.
What a job........
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This is only get worse as state governments and Thee Hill look for more and more ways to find money for the freakin money machine created by the Feds. Legalize damn prostitution and tax that whoops now that would be the last sin tax. Legalize Mary J and tax that would be cheaper then street sale and govie could collect more taxes. Leave my booze and cigs alone thank you very much.
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This is only get worse as state governments and Thee Hill look for more and more ways to find money for the freakin money machine created by the Feds. Legalize damn prostitution and tax that whoops now that would be the last sin tax. Legalize Mary J and tax that would be cheaper then street sale and govie could collect more taxes. Leave my booze and cigs alone thank you very much.
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its not just this here - its everything. my other thread is where stores are auctioning off outdated food now. bidding wars over a pkg of cheese doodles (so to speak)
Thread: Thrifty shoppers ‘Sold!’ on grocery auctions Bidders are willing to take some food that is past its sell-by date

theyre making it difficult to survive little by little, and draining us of what little we have left.

the summer of hell is almost here.
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Sounds like it's time to grow your own tobacco and build a hidden, communal still ... or maybe it's just time to replace a lot of worthless politicians.
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Sounds like it's time to grow your own tobacco and build a hidden, communal still ... or maybe it's just time to replace a lot of worthless politicians.
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joesixpack & are are blueprinting a still. fuck this.
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Why would they waste all that booze and smokes?
Wtf are they crazy or what?
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Tax Yachts and Private Jets.
Sin taxes are nothing more than behavior control and war on the working class.
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we are geeting fucked with chnese condoms wile congress lives like kings flying 1 class with all the pearks i wonder how much a congress man or woman realy makes in a year this is the need of more taxs so the can steal more. let the eat cake
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The truest form of ALCOHOL ABUSE...

such a waste.
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any arkansans here want to gather up all our empty bottles of liquor and boxes of smokes and go put them on the steps of the capitol building?
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Sounds like a whole hell of a lot of party fouls to me.
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any arkansans here want to gather up all our empty bottles of liquor and boxes of smokes and go put them on the steps of the capitol building?
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NOW we're talking!
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cigz here already went up last week and the tax hike begins apr 1st. generic cigz that were 2.90pk are 4.05 as of now. most are a pube below 6 bucks now the avg prior was 3.53 - 3.75 pk for name brands. if pa pulls this on the booze, ill do what my father does and make wine.
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Tax Yachts and Private Jets.

Sin taxes are nothing more than behavior control and war on the working class.
 Quoting: entropy


EXACTLY right! They have programmed the populace to consider smoking a social taboo, so those who are anti-smoking won't be protesting this "sin tax". Those who wouldn't accept the BS are being punished for their rebellion against state policy. The rich will smoke regardless of the price.

BTW, people were a lot healthier back when smoking was popular, and there is solid evidence that smoking is good for us. Can't have a healthy population now, can we!
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any arkansans here want to gather up all our empty bottles of liquor and boxes of smokes and go put them on the steps of the capitol building?



NOW we're talking!
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn


i'd like to get together a protest like that. and just stand there at the capitol with and give them a big FUCK YOU. then let them know that i am quitting and they will not be getting one cent of my fucking money through their new taxes.
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applause2
Tax Yachts and Private Jets.

Sin taxes are nothing more than behavior control and war on the working class.


EXACTLY right! They have programmed the populace to consider smoking a social taboo, so those who are anti-smoking won't be protesting this "sin tax". Those who wouldn't accept the BS are being punished for their rebellion against state policy. The rich will smoke regardless of the price.

BTW, people were a lot healthier back when smoking was popular, and there is solid evidence that smoking is good for us. Can't have a healthy population now, can we!
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 642453


If people were smoking pure tobacco I would agree with you. However, pure tobacco has not seen the cigarette industry in forever courtesy of the tobacco industry trying to make their product more addicting. As far as I'm concerned, I would love to see the tax go up and people to quit solely to put these companies out of business. They can take their chemically shit and stuff it up their corporate ass.
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California is straight doubling it's alcohol excize tax rate;-0 welcome to the NWO
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applause2
Tax Yachts and Private Jets.

Sin taxes are nothing more than behavior control and war on the working class.


EXACTLY right! They have programmed the populace to consider smoking a social taboo, so those who are anti-smoking won't be protesting this "sin tax". Those who wouldn't accept the BS are being punished for their rebellion against state policy. The rich will smoke regardless of the price.

BTW, people were a lot healthier back when smoking was popular, and there is solid evidence that smoking is good for us. Can't have a healthy population now, can we!
.


If people were smoking pure tobacco I would agree with you. However, pure tobacco has not seen the cigarette industry in forever courtesy of the tobacco industry trying to make their product more addicting. As far as I'm concerned, I would love to see the tax go up and people to quit solely to put these companies out of business. They can take their chemically shit and stuff it up their corporate ass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 551149

Really? What's more likely. People just giving up an adiction comparable to herion addiction cold turkey or buying it anyhow forcing the quality of life of their children to go down.(cheaper food consumption, less money to spend on other things ,etc.) I see your logic but it misses the big picture.
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A BYO protest is not much more than an expensive pep really where you don't even get to drink what you brought. Same goes for the "Tea Parties". Yes they are getting attention and yes that is a good thing, and yes I plan on going to one here locally soon, but the spirit of the protest is all wrong.

When our founding fathers had a tea party they dumped the British rulers tea! That is what stung the most. They destroyed something of iconic value to British rule. What are we doing here 200 some years later? Bringing our own booze to a protest to waste. We should be ashamed. Not because we are getting fed up enough to protest, but because we have forgotten how.
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How about a 20% tax on bread? That should work just spiffy.
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A BYO protest is not much more than an expensive pep really where you don't even get to drink what you brought. Same goes for the "Tea Parties". Yes they are getting attention and yes that is a good thing, and yes I plan on going to one here locally soon, but the spirit of the protest is all wrong.

When our founding fathers had a tea party they dumped the British rulers tea! That is what stung the most. They destroyed something of iconic value to British rule. What are we doing here 200 some years later? Bringing our own booze to a protest to waste. We should be ashamed. Not because we are getting fed up enough to protest, but because we have forgotten how.
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Hit em where it hurts, stop paying taxes on wages.
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molotov cocktails would be more effective
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I know how I am without my cigs, 2 months 32 a cartoon april first 78 a cartoon. I went to roll my own, and that used to be pot! I now tell the cashiers I'll start smoking pot before I pay the price!! amazing how people respond to I'll snort a line of meth or coke, back in the 70s I had my hayday.
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Sin taxes are nothing more than behavior control and war on the working class.
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Re: TAXING BEER/CIG'S CONSUMERS PROTEST DUMP LIQUOR IN RIVER & ON CAPITOL STEPS
we'll just moonshine.

potatoes are cheap and muscadines are too...

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