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The SUN is not a STAR -- Stars are not Suns, their light is different than the Sun. (SCIENCE IS A LIAR)

 
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Recent research indicates that the stars are much smaller, cooler, dimmer, less massive and closer than was believed.

The Sun is unique in radiating its energy at a constant rate in the life-giving light and heat spectrums, unlike other stars which pour theirs out in the lethal gamma, ultra violet and x-ray ranges, and which can suddenly fluctuate between 10% and 150,000%!
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I still don't know.

Sometimes I think he must be pretty smart to be able to come up with so many dumb things. That would make him one of the greatest Poes of all time.

Other times, I think it isn't an act. So if he is actually out there, holding down a job, interacting with the rest of the world, my suspicion is that everyone who knows him has reached the same accommodation as GLP has; don't even try to educate him, don't bother with hoping he'll get the point, just ignore him and work around him.

So he might actually have a great scheme for life going. I can just see him, going to work every day and pulling down a decent salary, but not actually doing a damned thing. All his co-workers are picking up the slack, intercepting phone calls and memos, answering questions, doing the things he didn't do or, if asked, would do wrong. They've all decided it is less trouble to just work around him then to try to engage him in thought. And he coasts along, having a relaxed day and getting a nice paycheck, too.

Which doesn't sound even the slightest bit dumb to me. Either way you look at it, I think Punisher has fooled us all.
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sweet fucking christ punisher, you have GOT to be the most retarded individual currently walking the planet, I would LOVE to spend a day with you ,just to see how such a deluded person goes about their daily life. I bet it actually physically hurts to use your brain, doesn't it?

You suck so bad, you even fail at failing.
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it really would be fascinating to spend a day with him.

i picture him acting kind of like brendan fraser in the movie encino man, just after he thaws out.
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Recent research indicates that the stars are much smaller, cooler, dimmer, less massive and closer than was believed.

The Sun is unique in radiating its energy at a constant rate in the life-giving light and heat spectrums, unlike other stars which pour theirs out in the lethal gamma, ultra violet and x-ray ranges, and which can suddenly fluctuate between 10% and 150,000%!
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You got a cite for that? Or are we supposed to take your word that 200-odd years of observational astronomy (particularly spectroscopy) should just be thrown away?
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Dude hydrogen gas doesn't exist on earth
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Tell that to these guys:

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I still don't know.

Sometimes I think he must be pretty smart to be able to come up with so many dumb things. That would make him one of the greatest Poes of all time.

Other times, I think it isn't an act. So if he is actually out there, holding down a job, interacting with the rest of the world, my suspicion is that everyone who knows him has reached the same accommodation as GLP has; don't even try to educate him, don't bother with hoping he'll get the point, just ignore him and work around him.

So he might actually have a great scheme for life going. I can just see him, going to work every day and pulling down a decent salary, but not actually doing a damned thing. All his co-workers are picking up the slack, intercepting phone calls and memos, answering questions, doing the things he didn't do or, if asked, would do wrong. They've all decided it is less trouble to just work around him then to try to engage him in thought. And he coasts along, having a relaxed day and getting a nice paycheck, too.

Which doesn't sound even the slightest bit dumb to me. Either way you look at it, I think Punisher has fooled us all.
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My pet theory is that he's a Discordian.
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The Sun, not being a member of a multiple star system like most others, thus experiences no catastrophic-to-life changes in its orbit. With a diameter of 1 million miles, a fraction of a per cent change either way in its distance to us of 93 million miles would quickly reduce the Earth either to an ice block or a cinder block!
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The Sun is unique, and should not be categorised a star.

The rate of decrease in the size of the solar disc and decrease in its magnetic field shows that its age must be measured in terms of only thousands of years, not billions.
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I still don't know.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 641106

I've been trying to tell you this from the first time we exchanged ideas.hf

Sometimes I think he must be pretty smart.
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Thank-you!hf

Other times, I think it isn't an act. So if he is actually out there, holding down a job, interacting with the rest of the world, my suspicion is that everyone who knows him has reached the same accommodation as GLP has; don't even try to educate him, don't bother with hoping he'll get the point, just ignore him and work around him.
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You and others like Guy, PB, Barls have failed miserably at this.hf

Recent research indicates that the stars are much smaller, cooler, dimmer, less massive and closer than was believed.
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Ahhh, the beauty of make believe science, when it no longer makes sense, change! (Yes We Can)

The Sun is unique in radiating its energy at a constant rate in the life-giving light and heat spectrums, unlike other stars which pour theirs out in the lethal gamma, ultra violet and x-ray ranges, and which can suddenly fluctuate between 10% and 150,000%!
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10% and 150,000% by definition there can't be more then 100%

meds
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The Sun, not being a member of a multiple star system like most others, thus experiences no catastrophic-to-life changes in its orbit. With a diameter of 1 million miles, a fraction of a per cent change either way in its distance to us of 93 million miles would quickly reduce the Earth either to an ice block or a cinder block!
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Thank-you for agreeing with me!!hfhf

The Sun is unique, and should not be categorised a star.

The rate of decrease in the size of the solar disc and decrease in its magnetic field shows that its age must be measured in terms of only thousands of years, not billions.
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Double thanks!!!!hfhf

My pet theory is that he's a Discordian.
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You guys are accrodians, lol, all singing the same song and dance!!! afro

Tell that to these guys:

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Hydrogen gas has to be manufactured you fawkin lunatic, it doesn't occur naturally on earth, how could it produce itself on the sun? How does the sun make its "hydrogen gas?"


"This is why hydrogen as a gas (H2) is not found by itself on earth."
[link to www.eia.doe.gov]
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cupofjoe
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That's what you do twice a day everyday because you have control over your mind and body, ha, ha, ha, the Devil has you by the tail, "pun intended!"

peace


The surface of the Sun consists of hydrogen (about 74% of its mass, or 92% of its volume), helium (about 24% of mass, 7% of volume), and trace quantities of other elements, including iron, nickel, oxygen, silicon, sulfur, magnesium, carbon, neon, calcium, and chromium.[11]

Yes of course you've been to the sun and drew these conclusions with the vast testing and research done there. jerkit


The Sun has a spectral class of G2V. G2 means that it has a surface temperature of approximately 5,780 K (5,500 °C) giving it a white color that often, because of atmospheric scattering, appears yellow when seen from the surface of the Earth.

Yes you planted the thermometer fresh out of your ass and into the sun and got that reading when you were there testing the gases and its physiological make-up! jerkit


When the Sun is low in the sky, even more light is scattered so that the Sun appears orange or even red.[12]

There is no such thing as a low sky, maybe its time for rehab! hf


This means that it generates its energy by nuclear fusion of hydrogen nuclei into helium.

Fusion hey?


What kind of a reactor does the sun use to control and sustain a steady flow of this fusion from not becoming a chain reaction causing an explosion, such as nuke bombs?

How does hydrogen altered in a gaseous form and liquid make it so far away and continue to be made in such form? Since hydrogen doesn't exist on earth as a gas, liquid or solid, that it must be separated from other elements.


you should stop posting OP..

You should get an education, stop reading Pinocchio science, that outta do it!


after the earth is plate now sun not a star


you never go at school

that suck

Judging by how you write school wasn't your friend!

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OP is winning with simple solid logic, great Job OP
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sweet fucking christ punisher, you have GOT to be the most retarded individual currently walking the planet, I would LOVE to spend a day with you ,just to see how such a deluded person goes about their daily life. I bet it actually physically hurts to use your brain, doesn't it?

You suck so bad, you even fail at failing.
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Calling me names won't resolve the delusions of your science, if you can't reply in context to the OP then science is indefensible to my Truth. If you can't defend, its pretend.

Your science is pretend science, fiction, science-fiction and before my time on GOD'S green earth is over I will book-end the science books in the Pinocchio shelves of your local library!!

peace
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OP, I would like your opinion on what it is we see when we use telescopes and observe many, many more 'stars' than are seen with the unaided eye.
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OP, I would like your opinion on what it is we see when we use telescopes and observe many, many more 'stars' than are seen with the unaided eye.
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op's never actually used a telescope, he'll just tell you that you were high when you looked through one.
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geez, I wonder what the hell it is I see through the prescription glasses I'm wearing.
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Has any star actually been photographed as a disc with surface area?
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STARS don't shine yellow like the Sun, stars shine like the Moon. If stars were suns and were billions of miles further away than our sun, they "would" seem smaller but their color would not change, they would still shine the color of the Sun, yellow!

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Stars would also be seen in the daytime, our blue sky would be sprinkled with specs of yellow, but stars are only seen at night after the sun has crossed over into the sunset.

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No my friends the stars shine with the same light of the moon, same color, same intensity in respect to their sizes. The moon doesn't reflect the "sunshine" or then even stars should reflect this nighttime "sunshine" but they don't.

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And stars twinkle, "I've never seen the sun twinkle, or the moon."

GOD made the stars twinkle (wink wink) so that you would not be fooled, so don't be a fool, and don't get fooled by Greek science.


"Stars twinkle because of turbulence in the atmosphere of the Earth. As the atmosphere churns, the light from the star is refracted in different directions."
[link to curious.astro.cornell.edu]


Ha, ha, ha, why does the "turbulence" only apply to the stars?


- The sun is outside of earth's atmosphere.
- The moon too is outside of earth's atmosphere.


Don't let the Greeks get you!

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Something amiss with the theory of stellar evolution [link to www.livescience.com]
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overall...the OP has a dodgy view on everything..and also a fucked up learning/thought process..
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The short bus is waiting for you op. Don't be late.
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So the question of the day: Is Tweety really Punisher or is there another similar crazy running around?
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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STARS don't shine yellow like the Sun, stars shine like the Moon. If stars were suns and were billions of miles further away than our sun, they "would" seem smaller but their color would not change, they would still shine the color of the Sun, yellow!

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Stars would also be seen in the daytime, our blue sky would be sprinkled with specs of yellow, but stars are only seen at night after the sun has crossed over into the sunset.

*
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No my friends the stars shine with the same light of the moon, same color, same intensity in respect to their sizes. The moon doesn't reflect the "sunshine" or then even stars should reflect this nighttime "sunshine" but they don't.

*
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*

And stars twinkle, "I've never seen the sun twinkle, or the moon."

GOD made the stars twinkle (wink wink) so that you would not be fooled, so don't be a fool, and don't get fooled by Greek science.


"Stars twinkle because of turbulence in the atmosphere of the Earth. As the atmosphere churns, the light from the star is refracted in different directions."
[link to curious.astro.cornell.edu]


Ha, ha, ha, why does the "turbulence" only apply to the stars?


- The sun is outside of earth's atmosphere.
- The moon too is outside of earth's atmosphere.


Don't let the Greeks get you!
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Yet again, here is Punisher with another bullshit post.


Again, you will NEVER be taken seriously with this pseudo science by anyone unless you can provide:

1: Verifiable data about your education such as diplomas held (other than your GED) and the school(s) from which you obtained them ( other than a Cracker Jack box).

2: Research data that is your own. See, the data against you is accepted in the scientific community and independent research is ongoing but it is acceptable to cite the research of others to support your theory when you are in-line with conventional science. In your case, you are fighting an uphill battle and will NEED verifiable and reproducible data that supports your theory other than copying and pasting mismatched pieces from scientific websites out of context.

3: At least 1 article of your own that has been reviewed by your peers and published in some sort of scientific journal.


This is just a small example as to how REAL science works, it isn't some mumbo-jumbo witch doctor crap. Real science is observable and experimental with reproducible results.

Keep trying Punisher, but no one really cares about your theories nor will you get conventional science to convert over.
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Charles Darwin
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You and others like Guy, PB, Barls have failed miserably at this.hf

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Yup. We're like the guy in the sidelines, yelling "He's just a chicken! A giant chicken!"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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"This is why hydrogen as a gas (H2) is not found by itself on earth."
[link to www.eia.doe.gov]
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Simplified explanation on a page for children.

This is what an actual journal abstract on the subject looks like:

[link to www.agu.org]


Hydrogen is released by several natural processes. The majority of it soon drifts away or recombines, meaning the average amount in our atmosphere remains low (under one part per million).



Which all is just towards showing you got the facts wrong again. It actually doesn't matter a whit towards the reason you brought it up. The Sun is not fueled by anything that is in the Earth's atmosphere. The Sun is a ball of (mostly) hydrogen and helium, at high temperatures and pressures; meaning the usual form of these gases is neither gas, liquid, nor solid phases, but as plasma (and, in the center of the Sun, metallic).

The extremely hot hydrogen plasma that makes up the visible surface of the sun (the chromosphere) can be observed readily with a $2 tool. That is all it takes to figure out that there is hydrogen in the sun. This form of observation goes back to the 19th century and is performed by schoolchildren (in my day, with the aid of Bunsen Burners) every day. But I suspect the underlying science is a little too complex for you at the moment.

Incidentally, the reason we call the element "helium" what we do, is that it was first discovered in spectrographic studies of the Sun; before it had been chemically isolated for study on Earth. "Helium" comes from "Helios" -- the Greek name for the Sun.
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OP, I would like your opinion on what it is we see when we use telescopes and observe many, many more 'stars' than are seen with the unaided eye.


op's never actually used a telescope, he'll just tell you that you were high when you looked through one.
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Hrm.

I've got a telescope being gifted to some underprivileged youngster -- [link to www.galileoscope.org (secure)]

Punisher might be qualified, but it would be a waste to ship one to him. You're right -- he wouldn't look through it even if he had one. He doesn't even look at what you can see with the naked eye!

(Add to the list of things he's never seen....sunrise, sunset, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, any satellite, the majority of stars...)
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Has any star actually been photographed as a disc with surface area?
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Yes.


Here's one.

[link to www.ns.umich.edu]
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OP is winning with simple solid logic, great Job OP
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OP is winning with simple solid logic, great Job OP

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OP is winning with simple solid logic, great Job OP

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Finally got it right, lol, sorry dude!

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OP, I would like your opinion on what it is we see when we use telescopes and observe many, many more 'stars' than are seen with the unaided eye.
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Smaller stars!hf

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