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Sudanese officials say hundreds were killed early this year when bombs hit smuggling convoys moving migrants headed for Israel and Europe as well as arms possibly meant for Gaza.
By Richard Boudreaux and Edmund Sanders
March 27, 2009
Reporting from Khartoum, Sudan, and Jerusalem -- A Sudanese official said Thursday that hundreds of people were killed early this year when foreign warplanes bombed three convoys smuggling African migrants through Sudan along with weapons that apparently were destined for the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert hinted at his air force's possible involvement in the attacks. They came after Israel ended a 22-day assault on Gaza without fully achieving one of its aims: to choke off Hamas' weapons supply.


Israeli officials have said that the militant Islamic group is seeking more powerful weapons than the crude Kassam rockets and Grad missiles it fires at Israeli towns.

An Israeli role in the bombings, if confirmed, would underscore the Jewish state's determination to strike far beyond its borders to protect its security. It also would be seen as a warning to Hamas' most powerful patron, Iran, which Israel alleges is developing a nuclear weapon.

The bombings brought a new layer of tragedy to Sudan, a country in the grip of an armed insurgency. The victims were migrants from Sudan, Ethiopia and other African countries seeking a better life in Israel or Europe, and young men and boys working as porters and drivers for the smugglers.

Fatih Mahmoud Awad, a spokesman for Sudan's Transport Ministry, said as many as 800 people died in the attacks in January and early February. He said each convoy had more than a dozen vehicles.

The Associated Press quoted a Sudanese Foreign Ministry official, Ali Youssef, as saying there were conflicting reports of the number of casualties.

Transport Minister Mubarak Mabrook Saleem discussed the attacks at a news conference this week in Khartoum.

The attacks were not reported in the country's newspapers, suggesting that the government was embarrassed to acknowledge that its sovereignty and air space could be violated so easily.

Saleem told the Associated Press that he believed the planes were American, but other officials said they were not identifiable.

The U.S. military Thursday denied having made any recent airstrikes on Sudan.

CBS News reported Wednesday that Israel carried out the bombing in January. The network said Israel had learned of plans to move weapons north through Sudan to Egypt, then across the Sinai and through tunnels into Gaza.

Salah Bardawil, a senior Hamas official, denied that the vehicles hit were bearing weapons for Gaza.

Thirty-nine people in the 17-truck convoy were killed, CBS said. Awad, the Transport Ministry spokesman, put the death toll at 14. Reuters news agency said two warplanes hit the convoy in a desert region northwest of Port Sudan on the Red Sea coast.

Awad said 17 people were killed three weeks later in a second strike. The third attack caused many of the smuggled weapons to explode and was by far the deadliest, he said.

The weapons were "modern and expensive-looking," he said, and "were headed for Gaza probably."

Israel's military refused to confirm or deny a role in any of the bombings.

But Olmert, speaking at an academic conference, said:

"We operate everywhere we can hit terror infrastructure -- in close places and in places farther away. Wherever we can hit terror infrastructure, we hit them and we hit them in a way that increases deterrence."

Olmert, who is scheduled to step down as prime minister next week, made the remark during a speech summing up his accomplishments. He said Israel had acted beyond its borders in "a series of incidents," a reference widely understood to include the bombing of an alleged Syrian nuclear facility in 2007 and the assassination of a top Hezbollah warlord in the Syrian capital last year.

xperts said Israeli warplanes had the range to fly the 1,680-mile round trip to Sudan.

Before ending the Gaza assault Jan. 18, Israel secured pledges from the United States and other Western nations to share intelligence on arms smuggling into Gaza and cooperate in blocking it.

Amnon Lipkin-Shahak, a former Israeli army chief of staff, said Israel would have needed such help to locate smuggling convoys in Sudan.

Israeli officials say some Gaza-bound weapons move by sea from Iran to Yemen and others are purchased in Sudan's flourishing arms market.

Both routes converge over land through Sudan into Egypt and are used for smuggling migrants as well as weapons.

Reva Bhalla, a Washington-based analyst with the private intelligence firm Stratfor, said Iran pays for the weapons and often sends agents of Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia, to buy them in Sudan and to hire the smugglers.

Sudanese official Awad blamed the government for neglecting eastern Sudan, driving youths into the smuggling trade. Those killed "were boys, many 12 or 13 years old, looking to earn some money," he said.

After the attacks, relatives and tribesmen began searching for loved ones, he said.

"We missed our people and started investigating. We eventually found the wreckage."

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so now evil nazi israel is even allowed to attack other countries far far away from its borders in the guise of so called "self defense" - without being punished for it of course and without going to war with said country.

every other country would get punished for doing so - not evil nazi israel. they can do what ever they please...it seems - just like hitler during ww2.

now that evil nazi israel has it's new VAST VAST right wing nazi nutjob gubmint it will get even worse...olmert and his crooks will seem like a children's birthday party.
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not surprising at all.

yet no responses so far because even glps neocon tards know how unpopular it is and that doing such things is wrong.

but you will never hear them speaking out against it...against their masters in israel.

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03/27/2009 08:24 AM
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not surprising at all.

yet no responses so far because even glps neocon tards know how unpopular it is and that doing such things is wrong.

but you will never hear them speaking out against it...against their masters in israel.

sheepssheep
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If Jews are doing it, it's okay.

Because Jews can do no wrong.
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03/27/2009 08:28 AM
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yep yep now they don't "just" attack libanon and gaza, no, now they even attack countries such as sudan, which is in africa. nobody would be allowed to do anything like this but israel is allowed to do anything it wants, eh?!

here is were sudan is located on mother earth:
[link to africawiki.wikispaces.com (secure)]

it's evil and disgusting what israel is allowed to do. time to bring this to an end...hopefully.
Israel suspected in Sudan airstrikes

Sudanese officials say hundreds were killed early this year when bombs hit smuggling convoys moving migrants headed for Israel and Europe as well as arms possibly meant for Gaza.
By Richard Boudreaux and Edmund Sanders
March 27, 2009
Reporting from Khartoum, Sudan, and Jerusalem -- A Sudanese official said Thursday that hundreds of people were killed early this year when foreign warplanes bombed three convoys smuggling African migrants through Sudan along with weapons that apparently were destined for the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert hinted at his air force's possible involvement in the attacks. They came after Israel ended a 22-day assault on Gaza without fully achieving one of its aims: to choke off Hamas' weapons supply.


Israeli officials have said that the militant Islamic group is seeking more powerful weapons than the crude Kassam rockets and Grad missiles it fires at Israeli towns.

An Israeli role in the bombings, if confirmed, would underscore the Jewish state's determination to strike far beyond its borders to protect its security. It also would be seen as a warning to Hamas' most powerful patron, Iran, which Israel alleges is developing a nuclear weapon.

The bombings brought a new layer of tragedy to Sudan, a country in the grip of an armed insurgency. The victims were migrants from Sudan, Ethiopia and other African countries seeking a better life in Israel or Europe, and young men and boys working as porters and drivers for the smugglers.

Fatih Mahmoud Awad, a spokesman for Sudan's Transport Ministry, said as many as 800 people died in the attacks in January and early February. He said each convoy had more than a dozen vehicles.

The Associated Press quoted a Sudanese Foreign Ministry official, Ali Youssef, as saying there were conflicting reports of the number of casualties.

Transport Minister Mubarak Mabrook Saleem discussed the attacks at a news conference this week in Khartoum.

The attacks were not reported in the country's newspapers, suggesting that the government was embarrassed to acknowledge that its sovereignty and air space could be violated so easily.

Saleem told the Associated Press that he believed the planes were American, but other officials said they were not identifiable.

The U.S. military Thursday denied having made any recent airstrikes on Sudan.

CBS News reported Wednesday that Israel carried out the bombing in January. The network said Israel had learned of plans to move weapons north through Sudan to Egypt, then across the Sinai and through tunnels into Gaza.

Salah Bardawil, a senior Hamas official, denied that the vehicles hit were bearing weapons for Gaza.

Thirty-nine people in the 17-truck convoy were killed, CBS said. Awad, the Transport Ministry spokesman, put the death toll at 14. Reuters news agency said two warplanes hit the convoy in a desert region northwest of Port Sudan on the Red Sea coast.

Awad said 17 people were killed three weeks later in a second strike. The third attack caused many of the smuggled weapons to explode and was by far the deadliest, he said.

The weapons were "modern and expensive-looking," he said, and "were headed for Gaza probably."

Israel's military refused to confirm or deny a role in any of the bombings.

But Olmert, speaking at an academic conference, said:

"We operate everywhere we can hit terror infrastructure -- in close places and in places farther away. Wherever we can hit terror infrastructure, we hit them and we hit them in a way that increases deterrence."

Olmert, who is scheduled to step down as prime minister next week, made the remark during a speech summing up his accomplishments. He said Israel had acted beyond its borders in "a series of incidents," a reference widely understood to include the bombing of an alleged Syrian nuclear facility in 2007 and the assassination of a top Hezbollah warlord in the Syrian capital last year.

xperts said Israeli warplanes had the range to fly the 1,680-mile round trip to Sudan.

Before ending the Gaza assault Jan. 18, Israel secured pledges from the United States and other Western nations to share intelligence on arms smuggling into Gaza and cooperate in blocking it.

Amnon Lipkin-Shahak, a former Israeli army chief of staff, said Israel would have needed such help to locate smuggling convoys in Sudan.

Israeli officials say some Gaza-bound weapons move by sea from Iran to Yemen and others are purchased in Sudan's flourishing arms market.

Both routes converge over land through Sudan into Egypt and are used for smuggling migrants as well as weapons.

Reva Bhalla, a Washington-based analyst with the private intelligence firm Stratfor, said Iran pays for the weapons and often sends agents of Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia, to buy them in Sudan and to hire the smugglers.

Sudanese official Awad blamed the government for neglecting eastern Sudan, driving youths into the smuggling trade. Those killed "were boys, many 12 or 13 years old, looking to earn some money," he said.

After the attacks, relatives and tribesmen began searching for loved ones, he said.

"We missed our people and started investigating. We eventually found the wreckage."

------

so now evil nazi israel is even allowed to attack other countries far far away from its borders in the guise of so called "self defense" - without being punished for it of course and without going to war with said country.

every other country would get punished for doing so - not evil nazi israel. they can do what ever they please...it seems - just like hitler during ww2.

now that evil nazi israel has it's new VAST VAST right wing nazi nutjob gubmint it will get even worse...olmert and his crooks will seem like a children's birthday party.
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link (forgot that one)
[link to www.latimes.com]
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this does it even for me! nuf with this shit! what#s israel?! the master of the world or what?!

everybody lets them do as they please! enough with this bullshit! sudan is so far far far way from israel, yet israel claims "self defense"! what a friggin fucking bloody joke!

enough is enough! what's next?! nuking the whole of africa just because the majority of africa is muslim and then claim "self defense" again?!

this is more than outrageous and has to stop! NOW!
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03/27/2009 08:39 AM
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typical for israel and they always do it under their so called self defense rule.

they need to go. easy as. they do more harm than good to this world and it gets worse every single day. period.
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03/27/2009 08:44 AM
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fuck israel!!!!!!

what would israel say if some country would come along and bomb the shit outta them without declaring war...just for nothing and then this country too would claim self defense?! what would they do?!

you know the answer! but nobody is allowed to defend its country from israel...everybody has to watch and stand by how israel destroys one country after another just because the other countries happen do be NOT jewish or zionist.
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to hell with evil israel they're like one of the most violent and aggressive cancers on this planet.
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typical for israel and they always do it under their so called self defense rule.

they need to go. easy as. they do more harm than good to this world and it gets worse every single day. period.
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you're right on the money there
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If Jews are doing it, it's okay.

Because Jews can do no wrong.
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that's exactly the mindset of the sheep and fanatics. just look how many people here in the USm would even die for israel

"oh israel is our savior, our master. they are gods chosen ones, we need to obey and do everything they tells us to do."

puuuuhhhhlllleeeeeeaaaaazzzzzzeee!!!!!!!!! start to use your OWN brain you stupid sheep!

you're like brain dead zombies! you wanna be a good christian?! good! then STOP supporting pure EVIL!
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03/27/2009 09:06 AM
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bump
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aha so israel is even allowed to violate foreign airspace of another sovereign country hundreds and thousands of miles away?!

israel sux!

and so do the ones who allow israel to do whatever the fuck they want!

this is evil! plain evil to it's very core!
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03/27/2009 03:07 PM
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Does anybody remember if this was also near the time the US had 'detained' an Iranian ship on the 'suspicion' they were smuggling arms?
They needed a welder or something as the cache was in the 'double hull' of the ship. They eventually released it with out finding anything.
If the dates are similar and the location of the original boarding the events might be related, or part of a setup to claim Iran is 'interfering'.

Last Edited by MHz on 03/27/2009 03:07 PM
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Cool. Interdiction strike.
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Luckily some serial numbers were showing that these 'expensive and new' weapons originated in Iran. or not.
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About time the sudanese get a bloody nose don't you think?
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EVIL ISRAEL.
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israel needs a good ass whopin
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read the fucking news before you post world war 3 been going on for a long time now,only now they dont need to hide pick your side now dont be left out.
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Gawd, Israel is such a disgrace to humanity!

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