The story of one of the most mysterious Alien archaeological finds of all time.

lots of good info in my 'Betting on Beijing Aliens (Literally) thread:
Thread: Betting on Beijing Aliens (Literally)

I read they ran DNA tests on the people in that area that claim to be the descendants and it is unique to the human species.

lots

bueller ... anyone

these aliens were here 10 and 12 thousand years ago

oh man, thats funny

there might be something in this...you seen the similarity between these stones and the 'ufo' things such as tose that appeared around the tether when it broke? You know, the circular things with the donut center and a notch in the circumference.

Just a thought

there is a lot of weird stuff out there

i've always had that thought too. they look oddly similar. i remember seeing tons of them on a documentary like 10 years or so ago. i was a kid so i wasn't really in to it, but the similarities are pretty striking when you see images of like 5 of them sitting next to one another. too many things laying around that point to something much smarter than us sitting somewhere out there. does anyone know what those little circle lights are that you see all over NASA videos? i think i heard the term "sun dog" before, retarded way of saying lens flare?

i agree though...those things look quite a bit alike

Sorry guys, as much as I would love to believe this, it's all a load a bull. Written by Erich von Däniken.

-The stones don't exist. The only evidence of the stones is those pictures. Not even one can be found anywhere physically. Also the claimed size of the stones/discs was much smaller than the ones in the pictures.

- There was no expedition, the claimed professor, or the claimed department back in 1938. It's all made up.

- Pretty much there is NOTHING in the story which could be proven to exist / have existed in the past.

I personally believe that there have been ancient aliens on the planet, but this story is just a hoax. Still I would urge all the people to search for evidence of ancient astronauts, I'm sure there is some somewhere. If not yet found, at least waiting to be found.

There are no photographs of either the "big-headed skeletons", nor are there of their supposed descendants, of whom, by the way, I can find no evidence whatsoever in any of my ethnography or anthropology texts.

Both the "Chinese scientists" have names that are not Chinese: "Chi Pu Tei", or "Tsum Um Nui" may sound vaguely Asian, but that is it. It's like an Asian was trying to sound like he knew some Westerners and called them "Mr. Smath" and "Mr. Jomes".

Here is some more information picked from [link to www.crystalinks.com]

Critics have largely rejected the above claims, arguing they are a combination of hoax and urban legend. For example, writer David Richie notes that the Dropa tales intrigued Gordon Chreighton, a Fellow of the Royal Anthropological Society and Royal Geographical Society. Upon investigation, Chreighton judged the sensationalistic Dropa-Extraterrestrial allegations to be "groundless," and detailed his findings in an article for Flying Saucer Review.

No traceable, credible evidence for this theory exists, or can be proven to have existed in the past. Proponents of the Dropa-stones story claim that this is the result of social disruption caused by the Chinese Cultural Revolution and of a conspiratorial coverup by Chinese authorities. However this story goes well beyond China. Its opponents claim it is long proven to be a forgery by Erich von Daniken.

Below is a detailed rebuttal of most sensationalistic Extraterrestrial/Dropa claims:

1. The discovery. There are no mentions of 'Tsum Um Nui' anywhere; as he is supposed to have fled China and died in Japan in the 1960s this cannot be negated by Cultural Revolution, Communist coverup theory. Also, there is no mention of the 1938 archaeological expedition to the Banyan Kara Ulla range. No "Peking Academy of Pre-History" ever existed.

2. Early Sources. The earliest mention of the story is in Erich von Daniken's infamous 1968 book, Chariots of the Gods. The book has been widely criticized as unreliable; in fact, the vast majority of names and sources appearing in the book cannot be corroborated, and no existence of the following Soviet or Chinese scholars can be found anywhere outside this story: Cho Pu Tei, Tsum Um Nui, Ernst Wagener, Vyatcheslav Saizev, and Sergei Lolladoff. Most tellingly, Däniken gives his main source for the story as a Soviet science fiction writer Alexander Kazantsev; however Kazantsev himself disagrees with Däniken's account and says that it was Däniken who told him the story, not the other way around.

3. Later Sources. The 1978 book Sungods in Exile "edited" by David Agamon, appeared to lend support to the story of the Dropa, but Agamon admitted in the magazine Fortean Times in 1988 that the book was fiction and that its alleged author, a British researcher named Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans, was imaginary. Some websites claim to show a photo of Dr Robin-Evans with the Dalai Lama. A frail, old man assisted by the current Dalai Lama, the photograph is quite recent and can not be Dr Robin-Evans -- he died in 1978, according to Hartwig Hausdorf.

4. Translation. There is absolutely no precedent for an unknown language being successfully deciphered. All lost ancient languages have been rediscovered only because they survived in forms familiar to scientists. Even in such cases, deciphering and understanding these older language forms and their scripts has usually taken decades for multiple teams of highly competent linguists, and their findings are constantly being debated and updated. Many ancient scripts (notably Linear A from the island of Crete and Rongorongo from Easter Island), have defied deciphering precisely because they cannot be linked to any known language. Given these facts, there would be even greater difficulties in translating a truly extraterrestrial language. It is therefore highly unlikely that a single Chinese scholar with no reported background in linguistics could single-handedly decipher an alien script or language in his spare time.

5. The Disks. All that exists of the supposed alien disks are several wide-angle photographs. The disks photographed, firstly, do not match the described "12-inch disks"; the disks photographed are very large. Secondly, the photos show none of the supposed deep grooves. Finally, absolutely no photos, descriptions, analyses or any other evidence of the actual 'alien script' appear anywhere at all.

6. The Evidence. The disks were supposed to be stored in several museums in China. None of these museums have any traces of these disks, nor can any be found of the ones supposedly sent to USSR for analysis.

7. The Dropa Tribe. While reported to be a tribe of feeble dwarfs, in actuality the Dropas are nomadic herders who inhabit most of the northern Tibetan Plateau. The Ham are also inhabitants of Tibet, and traditionally have supplied Tibet's warriors: many of the 13th Dalai Lama's bodyguards during his escape from the Chinese invasion were Ham Tibetans. The word "Dropa", according to Chrieghton, describes the nomadic residents of Tibetan highlands, and can be roughly translated as "solitude" or "isolated". Furthermore, Chreighton described the Dropa as not resembling "troglodytes", or as stunted; on the contrary, they tend to be rather large and sturdy, befitting their occupation as herders. (Richie, 95-96)

it appears you guys are right. no pictures besides the first ones they gave out? either there was much more to them, or absolutely nothing to them. one would think that if they were found back then, and found to be an invaluable source of technological advancement, we would already see the proof floating around. only evidence so far is hearsay and thousand year old legends. perhaps it is us who must head to the cosmos to find life elsewhere! we can be the greys with the probes!

I agree wholeheartedly.

One of the best "ancient alien visitation" stories I have read was Encounter with Tiber by John Barnes and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin, (yes, that Buzz Aldrin!).

And I believe that we need to go out there ourselves. Certainly the ongoing work in discovering exoplanets will give us an impetus to go there, by Bussard Ramjet if no other way.

One of my biggest regrets in life is that, even though I was only 25 when humans first went to another planet, I will be lucky to live to see people on Mars. Had it not been for the incredible short-sightedness of the American Government, we'd be mining the asteroids by now and planning our first expedition to another star.

do not be so quick to dismiss this one

There is a another "big" Chapter to this story

See the picture taken in 1947 by Dr Karyl Robin-Evans. It shows the Dropa leaders Hueypah-la, who stands 4' tall and Veez-la, who was 3'6" tall.

In 1947 the Dr. Robin-Evans made for the “mysterious land of the Dzopa“, travelling through Lhasa (Tibet) where he was granted an audience with the 14th Dalai Lama.

On the way to the very inaccessible region to the northeast of the Himalaya, the English scientist was abandoned by his Tibetan carriers - they were terribly afraid of Baian-Kara-Ula - and only with tremendous effort did he manage to reach his destination. 1947: Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans’ expedition

Shortly after World War II the polish professor Lolladoff showed a strange stonedisk to the English scientist Dr. Karyl Robin-Evans.

Lolladoff claims to have bought the disk in Mussorie (Northern India) and that it is supposed to be from a mysterious people called the “Dzopa” who had used it for religious rituals.



do not be so quick to dismiss this one

read the rest of the story

updated

[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]

Actually, I agree and disagree.

It is possible the Dropa Stones contained information that would have let the 'cat out of the bag' so to say.

What if there was detailed instructions regarding alien technologies and how to use the devices. Such as radio devices, engines, crafts, ect. If these aliens, obviously, are smart enough to travel the stars for who knows how long, they might also have the know how to build a craft from any habitable planet.





Let us ponder the possibility these stones were quickly confiscated and covered up. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

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ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS GO MISSING

THEN THEY SAY

HOAX

Stupid beyond words. Grow up.

Gold of the Gods

was Von Daniken's only credible book

The others were pure speculation.

All I see is a photograph of an older man and woman wearing what looks like old-style Han dress. What's to say how tall they are?

And, of course, there's nothing to back any of this stuff up.

Here is a critique of the information from

[link to gritfx.blogspot.com]

For this is the problem with the story of the ‘Dropa Stones’ and the small skeletons supposedly found in the mountains of the Baian-Kara-Ula – the lack of proof. It is highly unlikely that Dr Karyl Robin-Evans trekked into Tibet and took only ONE photograph of this mysterious race of people supposedly descended from extra-terrestrials. There might be a logical reason for this, but it escapes this author. The other ‘facts’ of the case are suspect as well – for instance the reported transcription by Tsum Um Nui and the details regarding the properties of the disks. The complete lack of evidence to support a discovery of this magnitude lends credence to the idea that this is all an elaborate hoax. A number of photos have surfaced on the internet claiming to be the skeletal or mummified remains of the Dropa ‘aliens’, but most are proven fakes or from another location on the planet, passed off as ‘Dropa’. And where are the 716 stone disks supposedly discovered by Chi Pu Tei in 1937? Were subsequent expeditions undertaken to recover any disks or skeletal remains that were left behind? It’s a great story, but is it anything more than that…?

Last Edited by Duncan Kunz on 04/01/2009 02:07 PM

You never know. The "discs", things like that go missing. If transcription was possible the Chinese must have been working on those alien records all these years, especially if the info was technical,

that if the ever existed. Again if they did exist
tptb would have them , not us

thats the way all this stuff dissapears

As much as it would be "cool" to believe that, I don't. One major problem with all of these "spectacular" finds is that the actual evidence is never where it's supposed to be, AND there are tons of "evidence" which can easily be proven as fake.

If something like this was real, then why all the lies and fake photos etc. that have surfaced over the years? And please don't blame THAT being a conspiracy, nobody has such resources that every story could be worked on from every angle in a watertight way for decades and decades.

The problem is, that these stories are just so fascinating that we really want them to be true. If there is evidence saying they are just made up, we don't WANT to believe it, because it's much more thrilling to believe they are true.

Like said, I'm fairly sure that there have been these ancient astronauts, and there could be even evidence for them somewhere, but this is not one of them.

I actually have restored a lot of my confidence in today's scientists, there are actually a lot of those around who are not afraid to come forward if they find something extraordinary. If there is truth in something, it cannot be debunked even by skeptics. And actually I do know that even many of the skeptics are very anxious to find credible evidence of things like these, they are just really frustrated with all the lies and fake "evidence" circling the internet.

I'm actually starting to become a skeptic myself, whenever I see a claim like this, I'll dig into it. If the day comes that it seems like a true story, I'm happy as a tornado in a trailerpark. But unfortunately, up to today, every single one of the stories I've heard can be proven as fake / imaginary within a max of a few hours of investigating on the internet. Normally within 10 minutes.

strange story

[link to godssecret.wordpress.com The Dropa article is incomplete, where's the rest of the text on the right?
I have the book" Sungods in Exile" myself, seemed pretty convincing at the time.
Dismissing this book, is this part of the E.T. info suppession?

I've seen a photograph of the "royal couple" of this tribe taken in the 1930's I think. They really do look like a cross between aliens and Himalayans.