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From Babylon to Rome - From the Universal Postal Union to the United Nations - the Foundations of the NWO

 
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I'm familiar with "Burning Man" [lived in SF during the 80's and knew artists who attended] but I personally haven't made it... yet!
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So did I!!! I think we may have some mutual aquaintences from the past. Do you know any of the guys from 'Survival Research Labs'? Early to mid 80s, I spent most of my time at the Rock on Broadway and the Fabulous Mabuhay Gardens - and hanging out with the Dead Kennedys, Flipper, Bad Posture etc.

Ahhh! the memories....
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Rev I got a lead! It combines your and my stuff so to say.
(fouth concili of Constantinopel 869)
[link to www.vaticanassassins.org]
I hope you can crack the nuts as I have a lack of intelligence here. I mean that, there are too may names and so on, plus English is difficult for me. My intuition could be of help though.
Let me know what got your attention. You also named some new names and Frigg (thanx for the link and the homework of nearly 300 pages;-)
I think we are in the heart of the shit. Or the anus haha
Why did Switzerland always stay "neutral?!" They ar giving up banksecracy. Is that some coincidence this happens together with the statements in public of building NWO now, or what? (no more hide and seek)
Lot of dots here, that is for sure.
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Thanks for the link - I'll check it out - along with Frigg's and I believe there is another one someone posted on the first page. I was away from the computer most of the day but plan on delving deep into research first thing in the morning.

There are some other really weird connections which I won't post yet without research backup for the skeptics. I don't keep things in files or on the computer - it's all in my head and I know where to go via memory on the internet to pull together the backup - just takes a little bit of time.
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Yes, I know you are the right one for the job Rev!
Looked at this UPU stuff, really scary. It is inbedded in the UN. You certainly found out about the "Worldsummit on the Information society?" -WSIS-
[link to ec.europa.eu]
(it is loaded with links into the wabbithoal ;-)

This all leeds us to the center of the Beast: all the social securitynumbers, adresses etc. will be there in their claws. To begin with the countries of the UN.
I Sweden for instance you cannot transfer money to another country without your social securitynumber, neighther can you open a bankaccount. Their postoffices are connected to the institution(?) who takes care of the taxes and the adresses (registration of where we live)

I must admit "they" orchestrated and prepared their Takeover geniously and with lots of patience!
Several members of the Thurn and Taxis family have been Knights of Malta.
Ofcourse they have....
Have some homework now irl but we´ll see soon DV
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REV: I haven't thought of the Mabuhay in YEARS! THANKS[!] for jogging my tired, old memory!

BTW: over at SFGATE.com today there's a really nice tribute to Herb Caen [whom I knew slightly]. The old City's changed ALOT since Herb wandered the alleys! Of course: haven't we ALL?
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How about this:all the European royals descend from this Thurn and Taxes clan.

What is transpiring is a neoRoman Empire on a global scale.
Yeah, that Neo-Roman Empire stuff. The whole period of Christiantiy when there was catholicism in that empire and further on there was a lot of cut/ paste in the religion. In 1868 when the Pope could not stand anymore of the changes and schisma´s etc and it was decided in the First Vatican Council like this:
Papal infallibility is the dogma in Catholic theology that, by action of the Holy Spirit, the Pope is preserved from even the possibility of error[1] when he solemnly declares or promulgates to the Church a dogmatic teaching on faith or morals as being contained in divine revelation, or at least being intimately connected to divine revelation. It is also taught that the Holy Spirit works in the body of the Church, as sensus fidei, to ensure that dogmatic teachings proclaimed to be infallible will be received by all Catholics. This dogma, however, does not state that the Pope cannot commit sin in his own personal life. (Wikipedia)
By the way Vatican City is no member of the UN
(Only the Palestinian territories an the West Sahara are not a meber of the UN eighther)

GBTLSD- Are you only talking about some
nice stuff not related to the subject?
It is fine with me but I would like to know, otherwise I´ll have to do even more homework ;-)
The whole subject is new to me, you know
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code cracked?
Brother sun, intuition moon. Home at the forest.

Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's?

Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves.

The garden gives greatest power.
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Wow!

I just got up - need another cup of coffee - you guys have given me a lot more leads to work with!

Not only do I want to find where this all leads and how all the pieces fit together but to find the the loopholes - the weak stops in their plan - there ALWAYS is at least one. ;)

At the same time today, I also need to continue my work regarding the situation in Hawaii but....since that is what led me here, the answers may still be connected in other ways.
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REV: I haven't thought of the Mabuhay in YEARS! THANKS[!] for jogging my tired, old memory!

BTW: over at SFGATE.com today there's a really nice tribute to Herb Caen [whom I knew slightly]. The old City's changed ALOT since Herb wandered the alleys! Of course: haven't we ALL?
 Quoting: gsbltd


Did you ever catch a performance at the Mabuhay by the joke Punk band called 'The Pillage People'? Our lead singer had a bad case of cerebral palsy (Rocky Thrasher) and all the girls were topless except that they were wrapped in saranwrap. At the end of the show, we sprayed the entire audience with whipped cream. I was one of the girls on keyboards. ;)

Oh! Those were fun days! We need a Punk Rock revival!!!!
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I got it! *look and thou shall find*
Fourth concili of Constantinopel in 869
From that time on the church found that the Spirit of man did not exist anymore and we were degraded into beings with a 1.a body and 2.a soul. The one who believes in the Spirit of men is than a heretic, misbeliever, religious_outcast (Take your pick)
I think I read quickly some of Jesus Christ who was robbed also of something before that, but I have to study that more.
There are some roots of the Anti-Christ behaviour of the catholics.
In Switzerland there are lots of them. That is the only connection I see right now, but I guess it could be interesting to dig a little in this poo.

OK - so far...this is where rhis interesting 'tidbit' has led me....

The council was called by Emperor Basil I the Macedonian and Pope Adrian II.

Basil???

Basel is where the BIS is located....

Basel (/ˈbɑːzəl/, also Basle[1], German: Basel /ˈbaːzəl/, French: Bâle /bal/ or /bɑl/, Italian: Basilea /bazi'lɛːa/, Romansh: Basilea /bazi'lɛːa/)

It means - 'Lord' or 'King'

Basil - the herb - thought to originate in Iran and India where it has been cultivated for more than 5000 years.

Etymology

The word basil comes from the Greek βασιλεύς (basileus), meaning "king", as it is believed to have grown above the spot where St. Constantine and Helen discovered the Holy Cross. The Oxford English Dictionary quotes speculations that basil may have been used in "some royal unguent, bath, or medicine". Basil is still considered the "king of herbs" by many cookery authors. An alternative etymology has "basil" coming from the Latin word basilicus, meaning dragon and being the root for basilisk, but this likely was a linguistic reworking of the word as brought from Greece.

Back the French for basel - 'bal'....sounds like 'Baal' and my goodness, they have the same meaning - 'Lord'.

Baal \Ba"al\ (b[=a]"al), n.; Heb. pl. Baalim (-[i^]m). [Heb. ba'al lord.]

1. (Myth.) The supreme male divinity of the Phoenician and Canaanitish nations.
Bel \Bel\ (b[e^]l), n. The Babylonian name of the god known among the Hebrews as Baal. See Baal. --Baruch vi. 41.

Bel (pronounced /beɪl/; from Akkadian bēlu), signifying "lord" or "master", is a title rather than a genuine name, applied to various gods in Babylonian religion. The feminine form is Belit 'Lady, Mistress'. Bel is represented in Greek and Latin by Belos and Belus respectively. Linguistically Bel is an East Semitic form cognate with Northwest Semitic Ba‘al with the same meaning.

* Belus
o Belus (Babylonian)
o Belus (Assyrian)
o Belus (Egyptian)
* Ba‘al
* Belial
* Marduk
* Bel and the Dragon
* EN (cuneiform)

Belial (also Belhor, Baalial, Beliar, Belias , Beliall, Beliel, Bilael, Belu; from Hebrew בְּלִיַּ&#145​1;עַל Bəliyyáʻal; also named Matanbuchus, Mechembuchus, Meterbuchus in older scripts) is a demon in the Bible, Christian apocrypha and Jewish apocrypha, and also a term used to characterize the wicked or worthless.

The etymology of the word is uncertain, but is most commonly translated as "without worth".[1] Some scholars translate it from Hebrew as "worthless" (Beli yo'il), while others translate it as "yokeless" (Beli ol), "may have no rising" (Belial) or "never to rise" (Beli ya'al). Only a few etymologists have assumed it to be a proper name from the start.[2] In the Book of Jubilees, uncircumcised heathens are called "sons of Belial".

In the Goetia, Belial is said to be very respectful. Belial is also the demon of lies and guilt. As a Prince of Hell, he commands 80 Legions of Demons and is specifically the Prince reigning over the Northern Reaches of Hell. His General and Bride Avaira is the general of these legions and of the Harposh Army. He controls the element of earth and reigns over the Earth demons.

ahhh
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In bringing together my previous research regarding 'The Seat of Satan', I seem to have come across some other very interesting info which leads back into ancient history.

Anybody ever heard of The Vergina Sun, Star of Vergina or Argead Star - discoverd in 1977????

Back to 'The Seat of Satan' - though it's origins were in Pergamon and was known as the altar of Zeus, it was moved and recontructed and is now on display in Berlin - of all places.

Google it and you'll find an uncanny resemblance to the 'Temple' theme at the recent Democratic Convention....

There are more tie-ins with the Roman Catholic Church, the Third Reich and the founding of Zionism - which by the way, was in Basel - on September 3, 1897, the World Zionist Organization held its first congress in Basel under the leadership of Theodor Herzl.

OK - back to researching....
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Damn it, another fuckin' rabbit hole !!!
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FFSs eh ? How are We doing Alice ?

sch
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Damn it, another fuckin' rabbit hole !!!

FFSs eh ? How are We doing Alice ?

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Amazing in that I started with the seemingly innocent postal service and am now deep into ancient history! Following the trail backwards...I am currently at Argus, son of Zeus and founder of the city of Argos, from which sprang The Argead dynasty...which led to... the Macedon or Macedonia Kingdom and Philetaerus, founder of the Attalid dynasty of Pergamon from which we get the Alter of Zeus which now sits in Berlin...
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I am finding that the only thing True seems to be Love.

History Truly is His Story...

Nothing is as it was taught to Us - We have been lied to from the Cradle. We're stopping it now so it won't continue on into the Grave as it already has for so many for so long.

TY to everyone in this Thread that has tried to help. You are all Truly Wondrous Beings and I Love You all...

TY, TY, TY...

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Also, one of the many tie-ins with the Catholic Church and Berlin would be The 1933 Concordat with Nazi Germany signed by Eugenio Maria Giuseppe Giovanni Pacelli who shortly after the signing, became Pope Pius XII.

1933 July 20:
"Papen and Pacelli formally sign the Concordat in an elaborate ceremony at the Vatican. Reich Minister of the Interior Frick announces that now the entire German government is now under the control of Adolf Hitler and that the Hitler salute is henceforth to be generally used as the German greeting. A number of contemporary historians consider this to be the day Hitler's dictatorship of Germany actually began."
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Also, one of the many tie-ins with the Catholic Church and Berlin would be The 1933 Concordat with Nazi Germany signed by Eugenio Maria Giuseppe Giovanni Pacelli who shortly after the signing, became Pope Pius XII.

1933 July 20:
"Papen and Pacelli formally sign the Concordat in an elaborate ceremony at the Vatican. Reich Minister of the Interior Frick announces that now the entire German government is now under the control of Adolf Hitler and that the Hitler salute is henceforth to be generally used as the German greeting. A number of contemporary historians consider this to be the day Hitler's dictatorship of Germany actually began."
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The Stoa of Attalos (also spelled Attalus) is recognised as one of the most impressive stoa

It was built by and named after King Attalos II of Pergamon
Pergamon

In the 1950s, the Stoa of Attalos was fully reconstructed and made into the Ancient Agora Museum, with funding donated by the Rockefeller family. The building is particularly important in the study of ancient monuments because the reconstruction of 1952 - 1956 faithfully replicates the original building.

The ceremony of the signing of the 2003 Treaty of Accession of 10 countries - Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Malta, Poland, Slovakia, and Slovenia - to the European Union was conducted in the Stoa of Attalos on 16 April 2003.

Agora in Greek means place of assembly.
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Amazing!

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Amazing in that I started with the seemingly innocent postal service and am now deep into ancient history! Following the trail backwards...I am currently at Argus, son of Zeus and founder of the city of Argos, from which sprang The Argead dynasty...which led to... the Macedon or Macedonia Kingdom and Philetaerus, founder of the Attalid dynasty of Pergamon from which we get the Alter of Zeus which now sits in Berlin...
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Back to Argus....

As the son of Zeus and Niobe (a mortal who was the daughter of Phoroneus) he was the first child born of a god and a mortal woman. His siblings were Osiris (!) and Pelasgus, who became the first King of Arcadia.

So now...we've even journeyed back to Ancient Egypt and Arcadia as well.
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Continuing the lineage backwards from Argus....

The river-god, Inachus was the son of the Titans Oceanus and Tethys. Inachus was the first inhabitant of Argolis. The Inachus River flow the valley of Argolis to the Gulf of Argolis. Inachus married a nymph named Melia, and became the father of two sons, Phoroneus and Aegialeus, and of possibly two daughters, Io and Mycene.

Phoroneus' son, Apis, who had named the whole Peloponnesian peninsula to Apia, died childless so Argus succeeded his uncle (Apis). Argus was a son of Zeus and Niobe, who was Apis' sister.

Io, who was seduced by Zeus and persecuted by the god's jealous wife, Hera, fled Argolis in a form of a cow. Io suffered many hardships, until she finally reached Egypt.

Heifer Io was loosed to roam the world, stung by a maddening gadfly sent by Hera, and wandered to Egypt, thus placing her descendant Belus in Egypt. Belus was a king of Egypt and father of Aegyptus.

The links below show the bull and the woman in modern symbolism both on Wall Street and the European Union.

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Titan and god of the river Oceanus (Ocean). Oceanus was the eldest son of Uranus and Gaea. The river Oceanus is said to flow in a circular stream about the earth, which was conceived as flat disk.

Oceanus married his sister, Tethys. All of his sons became river-gods. Oceanus was the only son of Uranus (as a Titan) who did not join his brothers in the war against Zeus and his brothers (the Olympians). During the war, Hera was left in the care of Oceanus and his wife. According to various sources, Tethys and her husbands were the primeval parents of the gods. They were not Titans, but the eldest of the gods.

The sky and the god of the sky. Uranus was the son of Gaea and possibly of Aether. Uranus married his mother and became the first supreme ruler of the world. According to Diodorus Siculus, Uranus was a mortal king who was deified at his death. Uranus was married to Titaea (Gaea) and he was the father of 45 sons, of which 15 of them were known as the Titans. Uranus was the first ruler of the human. His eldest daughter, Basileia (Theia), ruled after him, with her husband Hyperion.

The personification of earth, and the goddess of the earth. Gaea, also known as Gaia or Ge, but to the Romans, she was known as Terra Mater and Tellus. According to Diodorus Siculus, her name was also Titaea.

Gaea was born together with Nyx ("Night"), Erebus, Tartarus, and Eros ("Love"), out of Chaos. Without a mate (or probably mated with Aether), she bore Uranus ("Heaven"), Ourea ("Mountains") and Pontus ("Sea").

The upper air or sky. Aether was personification of the upper sky. With his sister Hemera (Day), they were offspring of Erebus (Darkness) and Nyx (Night).

Goddess of the night. Nyx was identified by the Roman as Nox, and was often just as Night. Nyx was born together with Erebus, Gaea, Tartarus, and Eros ("Love"), out of Chaos. By her brother Erebus, Nyx bore Aether ("Upper Air") and Hemera ("Day").

Nyx was also the mother of Moros ("Doom"), Thanatos ("Death"), Hypnos ("Sleep"), Charon, Nemesis ("Retribution"), and the Fates (Moerae). Nyx was possibly the mother of Eris ("Strife") and the Hesperides. Her other children were mostly abstract personification: Apate ("Deceit"), Geras ("Old Age"), the Keres ("Dooms"), Momos ("Blame"), Oizus ("Misery") and Philotes ("Tenderness"). Most of these children dwelled in the Underworld.

Nyx was sometimes seen as a winged goddess. Her wings were black or shadowy, and she was called "swift Night". She was said to dwell in the Underworld during the day, and only come out at dusk.

In the Iliad, Homer mentioned that the only goddess that Zeus only truly feared was the "all-subduing Night".

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Anybody out there that still things the UN/Catholic Church and the European Union are good things????
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More on the Universal Postal Union...

Did the United States.Lose the Cold War?
by John Fair

If the Soviet Union actually developed "hovering platforms" armed with beam weapons in the late 1970s, as banking consultant Dr. Peter Beter,.described in his audio letters, then it follows that the United States did not win the arms race, and.the US.military is currently being used for the purposes of the real winner.. .

Dr. Peter Beter revealed amazing secrets of. world politics that sounded.preposterous at the time.. He spoke of Tesla inspired.beam weapons capable of causing earthquakes, vaporizing.ships, buildings, airplanes, or simply igniting the air to cause.terrifying.fireball explosions.. He claimed that these weapons were aboard Soviet constructed "hovering platforms" that were not in orbit like satellites, and that during the late 70s and early 80s.the weapons were demonstrated on the United States for the purpose of intimidation.. Dr. Beter's credentials are impressive.. He was a member of the US Court of Military Appeals in 1952, and US Supreme Court in 1964, as well as being an international banker, lawyer, and consultant.. He died in 1987.. .

As others have pointed out, the treaties.banning space weapons (1967).and environmental modification.(1976) are proof that such technology exists.. Further proof is the lack of any international body.to inspect space craft for weapons violations.. The UN admits that space has been "militarized but not weaponized," although they do not define the terms, or back the claim.. Last August, the UN warned the Bush administration not to develop.space weapons...The US.claims that it needs a missile defense system, and a system of clearing space junk.. In fact, Boeing's web site describes the system it.has.been.building for the US government since 1990:.. "The Kinetic Energy Anti-Satellite program is intended to provide the United States with the capability to neutralize hostile satellites. The objective of the KE-ASAT program is to define, develop, integrate and test the necessary Kill Vehicle (KV), weapon control subsystem component and subsystems technologies to demonstrate hit-to-kill performance, including debris mitigation against hostile satellites."

Whoever owns these exotic weapons has successfully intimidated the world leaders including the UN.. Has the US economy, and military been manipulated by and for.it's enemies for the last 20 years?. Russia and China have warned the US not to develop space based weapons....Could it be that they already use such weapons to dictate policy?.

When we look at the United Nations.member list, there are two.important nations missing: Switzerland and Vatican City.. The Universal Postal Union is based in Bern, and boasts 189 countries under the Universal Postal Treaty...Interruption of the delivery of mail is immediately punished in this world...If you stop paying your debt and refuse to negotiate, same results.. So who runs the planet?. According to the CIA world factbook, every country has external debt except Italy, Vatican City, and Switzerland.. A 'collection agency' of immense power must exist to enforce the repayment of the loans.and to ensure smooth commerce of fuel so that.large construction projects (like pipelines) are profitable and the debt gets repaid.. The.stalling of the.pipeline across Afghanistan to China, unfortunately could be viewed as an interruption of commerce, money, and debt.. I postulate that.the United Nations.serves.the 'collection agency.that holds exotic weapons,' and that we (human beings = productive labor) are the.assets that.back the.banking system.

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In reference to the article I posted above -

Dr. Peter Beter

Beter practiced law in Washington D.C. between 1951 to 1961, besides being the general counsel for the American Gold Association (now called the Gold Prospectors Association of America) for three years at that time as well (1958–1961)[4]. Later on 1961, he was appointed by President John F. Kennedy as the general counsel for the Export-Import Bank of the United States, where he served until 1967.

The Export-Import Bank of the United States (Ex-Im Bank)
is the official export credit agency of the United States federal government. It was established in 1934 by an executive order, and made an independent agency in the Executive branch by Congress in 1945, for the purposes of financing and insuring foreign purchases of United States goods for customers unable or unwilling to accept credit risk. The mission of the Bank is to create and sustain U.S. jobs by financing sales of U.S. exports to international buyers. The Bank is chartered as a government corporation by the Congress of the United States; it was last chartered for a five year term in 2006.[1] Its Charter spells out the Bank's authorities and limitations. Among them is the principle that Ex-Im Bank does not compete with private sector lenders, but rather provides financing for transactions that would otherwise not take place because commercial lenders are either unable or unwilling to accept the political or commercial risks inherent in the deal. Its current chairman is James H. Lambright

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Beter released a series of 80 audio newsletter tapes between 1975 and 1982.[10] Dr Beter was known for his highly controversial claims, some of which included allegations of conspiracy in the highest places: That John F. Kennedy's vice president Lyndon B Johnson was involved in his assassination [13]; Powerful figures such as David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger and Jimmy Carter are dead and that they are actually organic robotoids[14][15][16]; Patty Hearst was kidnapped by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after the Hearst newspaper chain publicized secret Congressional testimony showing that America's atomic secrets were actually handed over to the Soviets--not stolen by them--even before America's first atomic bomb was finished, and that the Rockefellers were directly involved in this[17][18][19]; the CIA was responsible for the secret death of General George Scratchley Brown because he simply knew "too much"[14][20]; That the Jonestown massacre "was staged to "camouflage" the United States’ destruction of a Soviet missile base located in Guyana", which "served as an excuse for a massive influx of U.S. military personnel into Guyana", thus concealing the real count of casualties that resulted from this military operation, which involved a joint force of both U.S. and Israeli forces[21]; That the dangers and hazards of the back-then-secret Particle beam weapons and the secret "air wars"--advanced aerial weapons race--included weapons which had the magnitude to even change the weather, such "races" included both the United States and U.S.S.R

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Wow! He might sound like some loon from the fringe yet his backround is impeccable and he was in a position to know the truth about the claims he made.

Here is the website where his tapes can still be accessed.

I haven't even yet begun listening - looks like a lot of hours there.

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The Conspiracy Against the Dollar

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A little more about Attalus and the founding of Pergamos -


But how did Pergamos become the seat of Satan if Babylon was the seat? The answer again is in history. When Babylon fell to the Medes and Persians, the priest-king, Attalus fled the city and went to Pergamos with his priests and sacred mysteries. There he set up his kingdom outside the Roman empire, and thrived under the care of the devil.

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BABYLON--Pontifex Maximus--supreme Priest of pagan gods.
The last king to reign in Babylon was Belshazzar, who celebrated the pagan Babylonian ritual using the sacred Jewish temple vessels which his father King Nebuchadnezzar confiscated from the Jewish temple in 587 B.C.: After the death of Belshazzar in 539 B.C., the Persian Emperor Cyrus conquered Babylon and forced the Babylonian princes to flee to Pergamum. They continued their reign there as priest-kings of Babylonian paganism.

In 133 B.C., Attalus III, the last Babylonian King to rule in Pergamum, willed his dominions to the Roman Caesar, and the kingdom of Pergamum merged with the Roman Empire along with Satan-Nimrod’s throne and the title "Pontifex Maximus."

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Enter Georg Gaenswein....possibly the next and last Pope -

Reverend Monsignor Georg Gänswein, JCD (born July 30, 1956 in Riedern am Wald, Waldshut, Baden-Württemberg) is a German priest of the Roman Catholic Church, and the personal secretary of Pope Benedict XVI.

Georg Gänswein, the current private secretary of Pope Benedict is thought by some people to be the next Pope (and perhaps the final one if the prophecy of Malachy is correct).

Ratzinger was the private secretary to Pope John Paul II, so, this leads many to think that Georg Gänswein is being groomed to take over when the current Pope either steps down or dies.

"Gänswein is, though, more than just an impressive theologian. He is, like the man he serves, extremely conservative. "I think he is very dangerous," Daniel Deckers, the author of a biography of Germany's leading liberal cardinal, Karl Lehmann, said. "He's part of a small but very powerful group within the Catholic church. He will use his power to push Ratzinger in a certain direction. ... Yet it is Gänswein who decides who gets to see the Pope, and who doesn't. He also protects his boss from the mound of papers on Benedict's desk. "He is the Pope's gatekeeper. This makes him a very powerful man," Deckers said."

The liberal arm of the Catholic church do not like Georg Gänswein, he is accused of being ultra conservative, leading the church away from its recent reforms under Vatican II. He is a member of the secretive Opus Dei.

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And, damn!!! he's a handsome devil. ;)
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Of Babylon, Pergamos, Rome and the Catholic Church....


Rome and Saturnia

Ancient history has it that Romulus and his brother Remus founded Rome. Before the founding of the city of Rome, there stood on the Capitoline hill (one of the seven hills of Rome) a place called "Saturnia" or the city of Saturn. It was here where the great Babylon god Saturn was worshiped. The Latin name "Saturn" = "Satur" in Chaldee. It was by this name that Nimrod was known as the god of Chaldean Mysteries. Now, "Satur" means in English the "god of Mystery" or the "hidden god." The word "Satur" is also very similar to the Hebrew word "Sethur," which means "mystery." Both these words add up to the number 666, the fatal number of the Beast. Discussed further on.

In the early days of the city of Rome this Babylonian worship was suppressed - until a colony of Etruscans, who seriously practiced Babylonian idolatry, later settled in the neighborhood of Rome. Even before they were incorporated in the growing Roman State, they exercised a powerful influence over the religious worship of the Romans. This led to the formation of a college of Pontiffs, with a presiding Sovereign Pontiff - modeled on the Babylon pattern. The Capitoline hill, the original site of Saturnia, became the great high place of the worship of ancient Rome.

Even the name "Latin," the name of the language of Rome, carries with it a secret meaning and confirms the Babylon origins of Rome. The name comes from the Latin word "lateo," which means, "lie hid." "Lateo" in turn, comes from the Chaldee word "lat," which also means, "lie hid." In fact, the names "Lat" and "Saturn" are synonymous and both represent the great god of the Mysteries. In the Egyptian version of the Mysteries a fish god "Latus" was worshiped, that is clearly just another version of Dagon.

Although Chaldee was the language of the Mysteries of Babylon, the Latin language has a special connection with the Mysteries, since Latin is the "mystery" or "hidden" language. How remarkable is it then to find that Latin became central in the worship of the Church of Rome!

Pergamos - Satan's Seat

There is yet a further and more direct connection between the Mysteries of Babylon and ancient Rome. However, it is necessary first to explain what happened to the original Babylon position of Sovereign Pontiff of the Mysteries after the death of Belshazzar, the last king of Babylon.

The true legitimate representative of the god of the Mysteries, the deified Nimrod, was the king of Babylon as Sovereign Pontiff. The Bible shows how astrologers, soothsayers and magicians always surrounded the kings of Babylon. Following the overthrow and death of Belshazzar by the Medo-Persian Empire under Darius, Daniel was preserved by the grace of God. The Chaldean sorcerers and priests, though, were expelled from Babylon and fled to Pergamos, in what is now in western Turkey, where they receive asylum and established their central college. The kings of Pergamos, who were regarded as gods, were put in the vacant seat left by Belshazzar and his predecessors. They were hailed as the legitimate representatives of the Babylonian god of Mysteries.

It was at Pergamos where the god Aesculapius was worshiped in the form of a serpent. The name "Aesculapius" meant in Greek "instructing snake," but the serpent also symbolized the enlightening of souls of men by the sun. Thus we see the sun god being worshiped in the form of a serpent, supposedly enlightening mankind as "Lucifer" the shining one. However, the Bible shows the serpent to be the Devil, who first tempted man to sin against God. It is for this reason that the Lord refers to Pergamos as "Satan's seat" (Rev 2:13). Notice also the striking similarity between the name of the god of Mysteries, "Satur" or "Saturn" with that of the Hebrew name for the Devil, namely Satan.

As the power of Rome expanded into many parts of Greece, Attalus, the last king of Pergamos died and in 133BC and left in his will all the dominions of Pergamos to the Roman people. Thus the kingdom of Pergamos was merged into the dominions of Rome. For many years, though, there was no one who could openly lay claim to all the powers and dignity inherent in the title of the kings of Pergamos, namely that of Sovereign Pontiff. The powers of Roman Pontiffs were therefore somewhat restricted, but the situation changed dramatically with the arrival of Julius Caesar.

The Caesars Reign as Sovereign Pontiff

After invading France and Britain in 55 and 54 BC, Julius Caesar assumed the position of Life Dictator over the Roman Dominions in 44 BC. After his assassination in the Senate, a relative of his became Emperor in 27 BC after years of internal strife. His rule effectively ended the Roman Republic. It was from Julius Caesar's name that the Roman Emperors took their title of "Caesar." However, few are taught that the Caesars held the position of "Pontifex Maximus," that is "Supreme" of "Sovereign Pontiff." This is a very significant fact in history, but it is also very inconvenient to the Church of Rome, for it indicates the origin of the papacy.

Julius Caesar was elected to the position of Pontifex Maximus in 63 BC, following which, he assumed the position of supreme ruler of the Roman State. Thus he vested in himself all the powers and functions of the Babylonian Pontiff. And he was the true legitimate successor of Belshazzar. Not satisfied with this, he was declared to be Jupiter's incarnation on 25th Dec. 48 BC in the temple of Jupiter in Alexandria. The Encyclopaedia Britannica also says about Julius Caesar: "There are signs that in the last six months of his life he aspired not only to a monarchy in name as well as in fact, but also a divinity which Romans should acknowledge as well as Greeks, Orientals, and barbarians." By claiming divinity, he followed the pattern of the kings of Pergamos. The Roman Emperors that followed Julius Caesar were commonly regarded as gods.

Destruction of the Second Temple by Caesar's Army

When Pontius Pilate brought Jesus before the Jews, he asked them, "Shall I crucify your King?" The chief priests answered, "We have no king but Caesar." Note the terrible denial of the King of kings, the true Messiah Jesus Christ and their awful declaration that Caesar is their only king - the head of the Babylonian Mysteries and the earthly head of the worship of Satan. Just as the Lord gave the Jews in the hands of Nebuchadnezzar after they corrupted themselves with the worship of Nimrod, so he poured forth terrible judgments on them at the hands of the Roman Emperors whom they professed to follow. It was the Roman army of Titus, the son of Emperor Vespasian, who destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 AD. Titus later became Emperor and held the title of Caesar. Thus Babylon and Rome have in common that they both destroyed the Temple.

Janus and Cybele

In ancient Rome and its dominions there were a multitude of gods that were worshiped. The origins of these gods can be traced to Babylon as representing either Nimrod or his wife. Two are of special interest at this point of the discussion, namely Janus and Cybele. They were worshiped in Rome long before Jesus Christ's birth.

The origin of Janus is a corruption of the account of Noah! In the Babylonian Mysteries, the commemoration of the ark and the grand events in the life of Noah was mingled with the worship of the Queen of Heaven and her son. Noah, as having lived in two worlds, both before the flood and after it, was called "Dipheus," or "twice-born," and was presented as a god with two heads looking in opposite directions, the one old, and the other young. This is how Janus was represented in Rome. The name Janus came from the Chaldee "Eanush," which means "fallen man." Janus is also identified as another version of the fish god Dagon. (Back to Doctrines#Noah | Rome-Symbolism#Janus)

The goddess Cybele, who was always associated with Janus, was known in pagan Rome as "Domina" or "The Lady." Cybele was also represented as wearing a tower or turret as a crown, which was on account of her being the first to erect towers in cities. This honor was also ascribed to Semiramis, the first queen of Babylon, and the crown of towers was symbolic of Semiramis deified as the Queen of Heaven. Thus the worship of Cybele was simply the worship of Semiramis.

Cybele can also be identified with Diana of the Ephesians. Diana was represented in various abominable forms signifying fertility, but like Cybele had a crown of towers on her head. Furthermore, Diana was sometimes represented as part woman and part fish, in a similar manner as Dagon.

The Keys

Janus was worshiped in Rome as the god of doors and hinges, and was called "the opener and shutter." This had a blasphemous meaning, for he was worshiped in Rome as the grand mediator. Whatever important business was at hand, whatever deity was to be invoked, an invocation first of all had to be addressed to Janus, who was recognized as the "God of gods," in whose mysterious divinity the characters of father and son were combined, and without that no prayer could be heard - the door of heaven could not be opened. Here again Janus's two heads/faces come into play, in their signifying the old and the new/young, and holding a key in his hand. In like fashion the goddess Cybele also carried a key. (Back to Papacy#Cardinals)

The worship of Janus prevailed in Asia Minor at the same time the Lord commanded the Apostle John to write to the seven churches, viz.

Rev 3:7 "To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. NIV

It is confirmed, the Lord is the one true God, who alone opens and shuts the door of heaven.

As the great head of the Mysteries of Rome, the Sovereign Pontiff or "Pontifex Maximus" held the key of Janus and the key of Cybele, which were tokens of his position as their earthly representative. The keys became the symbol of the authority of the Pontifex Maximus. He was known by the Latin title "Pater Patrum," that means, "Father of Fathers." He was also addressed by the title "Your Holiness." (Back to Festivals#Father)

The interpreter of Mysteries

The Pontifex Maximus also had a mysterious title, variations of which were used by heads of the Mysteries in other parts of the ancient world. The priest or Pontiff who explained the Mysteries to the initiated was known as the "Interpreter," which is in Chaldee (the real language of the Mysteries) "Peter." As the revealer of that which was hidden, nothing was more natural than that, while opening up the esoteric [i.e. intended only for the initiated] doctrine of the Mysteries, Peter should be decorated with the keys of the two divinities whose Mysteries he unfolded. Thus we see how the keys of Janus and Cybele would come to be known as the keys of Peter, the "interpreter" of the Mysteries.

We even find something similar in the book of Genesis where Pharaoh's butler and baker both had dreams and wanted an interpreter to explain them. Remembering that Hebrew and Chaldee were related languages, it is remarkable to note that "interpreter" is a translation of the Hebrew word "pathar," which is very similar to the Chaldee "Peter."

The god of Mysteries was also known by the title "Peter-Roma," which is Chaldee for the "Grand Interpreter." This "Peter-Roma" was transformed by the papacy into the Apostle "Peter of Rome." Behold the Mysteries of iniquity.

Martin Luther made a very perceptive statement when he wrote, "I know that the papacy is none other than the kingdom of Babylon, and the violence of Nimrod the mighty hunter … The papacy is a vigorous chase led by the Roman bishop to catch and destroy souls.

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Oh! This is good!!!


THE HOLY SEE AT THE UN

The Holy See is a Non-member State Permanent Observer at the United Nations. This is a rarely used designation shared only by Switzerland. It gives the holder some of the privileges of a state at the UN, such as being able to speak and vote at UN conferences. No other religion is granted this elevated status. Other religions participate at the UN like most other non-state entities - as non-governmental organisations.

The Holy See owes its participation in the UN to an accident of history - the membership of Vatican City to the Universal Postal Union and the International Telecommunications Union.

[link to www.secularism.org.uk]

There's a lot more of the article - check it out.

Sneaky bastards!
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Weird how this all connects.

So, the Vatican not only steers the UN but also, the American Judicial system.

The Red Mass and the Supreme Court

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APOSTOLIC LETTER
ISSUED MOTU PROPRIO
PROCLAIMING SAINT THOMAS MORE
PATRON OF STATESMEN AND POLITICIANS

POPE JOHN PAUL II
FOR PERPETUAL REMEMBRANCE

"...Precisely because of the witness which he bore, even at the price of his life, to the primacy of truth over power, Saint Thomas More is venerated as an imperishable example of moral integrity. And even outside the Church, particularly among those with responsibility for the destinies of peoples, he is acknowledged as a source of inspiration for a political system which has as its supreme goal the service of the human person. ..."

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