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The science theory of FUSION is DE-BUNKED -- DESTROYED -- DE-FUSED. | |
| Synonymous Coward User ID: 650013  Canada04/04/2009 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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mu1ti  User ID: 649780  Australia04/04/2009 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's why using your hand causes blindness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646736 lmao "It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world." - George Orwell, 1984 [link to thesecrettempleofit.blogspot.com] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how could you debunk whats already established? Quoting: mr perfect. 629468Only established in the minds of delusional people. Greek science will one day soon join books like Pinocchio and Peter Pan. You can believe in Peter Pan, some obviously do!  |
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| NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 650048 United States04/04/2009 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's begin with the fact that there are no fusion reactors on this planet in operational, the only fusion reactor "Tokamak" is in experimental stage, or FAILURE stage another word for experimental. Quoting: Synonymous Coward 650013Let's continue to explore what science calls fusion and has based its accepted theory on, the sun. The fusion of the sun in what science believes is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy. [link to fusioned.gat.com] Hydrogen — Atomic Mass: 1.00794 Helium — Atomic Mass: 4.002602 "The fusion of the sun is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy." THE MATH 1.00794 + 1.00794 - (some mass) = 4.002602 Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, The only Fusion capability are from humans, when a man fuses with a woman and their DNA nucleus bond together (fusion) during what GOD calls procreation, an extension of Himself who was made without hands and passed down to us the children of men as "you" were made without hands, the image of GOD nuclear DNA [link to ghr.nlm.nih.gov] You have no "good" reason for this thread. You are doing this out of spite and malice. You don't wish to gain any personal "revelation" from it. You just won't to inflame, and insult. You are clearly taking pleasure, like a sadist, from the fact that is might bring offense to people. So why don't you tell us the real point of this........pleasure? "teen angst"? boredom? [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see, the Earth is flat, planets don't exist, the Sun and Moon are the same size, volcanoes don't exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 650001You're just a real scientific genius there, aren't you ? This thread is about fusion, I'll debate you on all those subjects on my other threads and kick your ass just like I'm kicking it now leaving you completely defenseless in retorting. You will bow to my Truth, or you are bent to Lies.  |
| deepend User ID: 564040 United States04/04/2009 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hydrogen itself is compressed light... cut and paste this link into your browser to watch. mms://stream.simpletoremember.com/simpletoremember/other/dr_schroeder_s.wmv Last Edited by deepend on 04/04/2009 01:58 PM ^^ gravity is a harsh reality. ^^ |
| AsperGirl User ID: 637830 United States04/04/2009 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Synonymous, that would be true if the masses of the hydrogen and helium were as printed in ideal periodic table. What is actually being fused are hydrogen isotopes, deuterium, which has one proton and one neutron in the nucleus, and tritium, which has one proton and two neutrons. "Deuterium, stable, nonradioactive isotope of hydrogen with atomic weight 2.01363 and symbol D, or 2H. It is commonly called heavy hydrogen because its atomic weight is approximately double that of ordinary hydrogen, but it has identical chemical properties. Deuterium has about twice the atomic weight of normal hydrogen because its nucleus contains a proton and a neutron, instead of just a proton." [link to encarta.msn.com] Also in hydrogen->helium fusion there is another heavy isotope of hydrogen, called tritium, that comes into play. "Tritium, radioactive hydrogen isotope of atomic mass 3 and symbol 1H3 or T. The nucleus of a tritium atom consists of a proton and two neutrons and has a mass of 3.016049. It undergoes decay by beta emission to give a helium nucleus of mass 3; it has a half-life of 12.26 years. Tritium is produced in a number of ways, including the bombardment of deuterium compounds with high-energy deuterons and by the absorption of neutrons by the lithium isotope of mass 6. "Some tritium is produced in the upper levels of the atmosphere by the bombardment of nitrogen with energetic neutrons produced by cosmic rays; rainwater is usually found to contain minute amounts of tritium. The enormous amount of energy released when tritons react with deuterons in the so-called nuclear-fusion process makes tritium an important constituent of hydrogen bombs (see Nuclear Energy; Nuclear Weapons). Tritium has also been used as a tracer in chemical and biochemical research." [link to encarta.msn.com] Here's a image from Wikipedia on how 2 heavy hydrogen isotopes combine to create a helium atom, and create an excess neutron that is radiated away and release energy ("MeV" = "mega electron volts" = one million electron charges) pic: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] Last Edited by Andromeda on 04/04/2009 02:03 PM |
| Slick User ID: 600233 United States04/04/2009 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | once again, dumbass punisher gets it wrong. like usual, he gets the science wrong in his original post fusion in the sun does not use two hydrogen atoms it takes four hydrogen atoms and 2 electrons i don't need to prove that fusion occurs i only need to prove you don't know what the hell you're talking about i have done this on every one of your threads you are so fucking stupid you don't even get it your head is made of shit |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hydrogen — Atomic Mass: 1.00794 Quoting: The OPHelium — Atomic Mass: 4.002602 "The fusion of the sun is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy." THE MATH 1.00794 + 1.00794 - (some mass) = 4.002602 Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, You have no "good" reason for this thread. You are doing this out of spite and malice. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaDon't pretend you know me, that would make you delusional. You don't wish to gain any personal "revelation" from it. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaI already possess revelation for I was able to put this one together and other threads. You just won't to inflame, and insult. You are clearly taking pleasure, like a sadist, from the fact that is might bring offense to people. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaI'm just disturbing the lies in you, the lies that you have become with comfortably numb. So why don't you tell us the real point of this........pleasure? "teen angst"? boredom? Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaRanting off topic shows your weakness, stay on subject, and try, at least try to defend what science has with brainwashed you.  |
| AsperGirl User ID: 637830 United States04/04/2009 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no "good" reason for this thread. You are doing this out of spite and malice. You don't wish to gain any personal "revelation" from it. You just won't to inflame, and insult. You are clearly taking pleasure, like a sadist, from the fact that is might bring offense to people. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaSo why don't you tell us the real point of this........pleasure? "teen angst"? boredom? I think that OP's question is fair. He's using the same simplistic, knee jerk logic to pick at scientific beliefs that a lot of debunkers use to pick at mystical beliefs or conspiracy theories. A lot of so-called pragmatists have no idea why they are confident that the things that they are taught are real scientific ideas, are true. Last Edited by Andromeda on 04/04/2009 02:07 PM |
| NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 650048 United States04/04/2009 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hydrogen — Atomic Mass: 1.00794 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 650013Helium — Atomic Mass: 4.002602 "The fusion of the sun is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy." THE MATH 1.00794 + 1.00794 - (some mass) = 4.002602 Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, You have no "good" reason for this thread. You are doing this out of spite and malice. Don't pretend you know me, that would make you delusional. You don't wish to gain any personal "revelation" from it. I already possess revelation for I was able to put this one together and other threads. You just won't to inflame, and insult. You are clearly taking pleasure, like a sadist, from the fact that is might bring offense to people. I'm just disturbing the lies in you, the lies that you have become with comfortably numb. So why don't you tell us the real point of this........pleasure? "teen angst"? boredom? Ranting off topic shows your weakness, stay on subject, and try, at least try to defend what science has with brainwashed you. Not ranting off topic. I am staying very on topic. You are being abusive and offensive for your own personal pleasure, it is clear. I am not comfortably numb, I have asked the same question(s). I don't know the answer to be true, it CAN'T be proven, so I never saw the need to run around trying to insult and offend everyone who agrees with it. Dick. On, in regards to being delusional  [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Synonymous, that would be true if the masses of the hydrogen and helium were as printed in ideal periodic table. Quoting: AsperGirlWhat is actually being fused are hydrogen isotopes, deuterium, which has one proton and one neutron in the nucleus, and tritium, which has one proton and two neutrons. Hydrogen — Atomic Mass: 1.00794 Helium — Atomic Mass: 4.002602 "The fusion of the sun is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy." THE MATH 1.00794 + 1.00794 - (some mass) = 4.002602 Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha, "Deuterium, stable, nonradioactive isotope of hydrogen with atomic weight 2.01363 and symbol D, or 2H. It is commonly called heavy hydrogen because its atomic weight is approximately double that of ordinary hydrogen, but it has identical chemical properties. Deuterium has about twice the atomic weight of normal hydrogen because its nucleus contains a proton and a neutron, instead of just a proton." Quoting: AsperGirl[link to encarta.msn.com] Also in hydrogen->helium fusion there is another heavy isotope of hydrogen, called tritium, that comes into play. "Tritium, radioactive hydrogen isotope of atomic mass 3 and symbol 1H3 or T. The nucleus of a tritium atom consists of a proton and two neutrons and has a mass of 3.016049. It undergoes decay by beta emission to give a helium nucleus of mass 3; it has a half-life of 12.26 years. Tritium is produced in a number of ways, including the bombardment of deuterium compounds with high-energy deuterons and by the absorption of neutrons by the lithium isotope of mass 6. "Some tritium is produced in the upper levels of the atmosphere by the bombardment of nitrogen with energetic neutrons produced by cosmic rays; rainwater is usually found to contain minute amounts of tritium. The enormous amount of energy released when tritons react with deuterons in the so-called nuclear-fusion process makes tritium an important constituent of hydrogen bombs (see Nuclear Energy; Nuclear Weapons). Tritium has also been used as a tracer in chemical and biochemical research." [link to encarta.msn.com] Here's a image from Wikipedia on how 2 heavy hydrogen isotopes combine to create a helium atom, and create an excess neutron that is radiated away and release energy ("MeV" = "mega electron volts" = one million electron charges) pic: [link to upload.wikimedia.org] Just filler for the MADE-UP science you believe in, just like Cryptonite can destroy the Man of Steel, only fantasy, that's all this rant is of yours.  |
| NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 650048 United States04/04/2009 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no "good" reason for this thread. You are doing this out of spite and malice. You don't wish to gain any personal "revelation" from it. You just won't to inflame, and insult. You are clearly taking pleasure, like a sadist, from the fact that is might bring offense to people. Quoting: AsperGirlSo why don't you tell us the real point of this........pleasure? "teen angst"? boredom? I think that OP's question is fair. He's using the same simplistic, knee jerk logic to pick at scientific beliefs that a lot of debunkers use to pick at mystical beliefs or conspiracy theories. A lot of so-called pragmatists have no idea why they "know" the things that they are taught are real scientific ideas, are true. You are right, but he is being offensive with it. With the "hahahahaha", and acting very, well, "snotty" about it. As if he/she is gaining some kind of sadistic pleasure by raising the blood pressure of the reader. I hate to admit my Neanderthal ways, but if he/she was to act this way in person, I would have a hard time not slapping or punching them in the face. What can I say, I suck. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | once again, dumbass punisher gets it wrong. Quoting: Slicklike usual, he gets the science wrong in his original post fusion in the sun does not use two hydrogen atoms it takes four hydrogen atoms and 2 electrons i don't need to prove that fusion occurs i only need to prove you don't know what the hell you're talking about i have done this on every one of your threads you are so fucking stupid you don't even get it your head is made of shit Change your diaper, tired of the same shit you spew out when cornered, you even disagree with what you're defending, completely confused and illogical. ""The fusion of the sun/stars is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy."" [link to fusioned.gat.com] |
| Slick User ID: 600233 United States04/04/2009 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | once again, dumbass punisher gets it wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 650013like usual, he gets the science wrong in his original post fusion in the sun does not use two hydrogen atoms it takes four hydrogen atoms and 2 electrons i don't need to prove that fusion occurs i only need to prove you don't know what the hell you're talking about i have done this on every one of your threads you are so fucking stupid you don't even get it your head is made of shit Change your diaper, tired of the same shit you spew out when cornered, you even disagree with what you're defending, completely confused and illogical. ""The fusion of the sun/stars is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy."" [link to fusioned.gat.com] hey, dumbass, read that whole explanation you quoted...they refer to deuterium and tritium...look up the atomic weight of those you used the atomic weight of hydrogen in your incorrect math |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not ranting off topic. I am staying very on topic. You are being abusive and offensive for your own personal pleasure, it is clear. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaI am not comfortably numb, I have asked the same question(s). Yes did rant off topic and you were disturb by Truth. I don't know the answer to be true, it CAN'T be proven, so I never saw the need to run around trying to insult and offend everyone who agrees with it. Dick. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaIt can be proven, and I have in the OP read it. Hydrogen — Atomic Mass: 1.00794 Helium — Atomic Mass: 4.002602 "The fusion of the sun is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy." 1.00794 + 1.00794 - (some mass) = 4.002602 The science theory of Fusion is BOGUS. <(black dot signifies a period) On, in regards to being delusional Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaThen stop pretending that you know me. |
| Slick User ID: 600233 United States04/04/2009 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | again, you don't know what you are talking about Quoting: Slick I will say, again, you delusional whacko, you got it wrong Quoting: Slickyou can't disprove something you don't understand you needto stay in the shallow end of the pool, where you belong Chicken, you can't defend your Pinocchio science, you're afraid to address the OP, you're just a little boy frightened like a little girl. Girlie-boy.  |
| Slick User ID: 600233 United States04/04/2009 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 650048 United States04/04/2009 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not ranting off topic. I am staying very on topic. You are being abusive and offensive for your own personal pleasure, it is clear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 650013I am not comfortably numb, I have asked the same question(s). Yes did rant off topic and you were disturb by Truth. I don't know the answer to be true, it CAN'T be proven, so I never saw the need to run around trying to insult and offend everyone who agrees with it. Dick. It can be proven, and I have in the OP read it. Hydrogen — Atomic Mass: 1.00794 Helium — Atomic Mass: 4.002602 "The fusion of the sun is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy." 1.00794 + 1.00794 - (some mass) = 4.002602 The science theory of Fusion is BOGUS. <(black dot signifies a period) On, in regards to being delusional Then stop pretending that you know me. I am pretty sure they can use "math" to prove God does not exist, that the universe was not created and that we all can be broken down into tiny particles called "strings" and then be rebuilt via atmospheric transport. Do also believe all this to be true? [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 650013 Canada04/04/2009 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ""The fusion of the sun/stars is the reaction in which two atoms of hydrogen combine together, or fuse, to form an atom of helium. In the process some of the mass of the hydrogen is converted into energy."" Quoting: Slick[link to fusioned.gat.com] hey, dumbass, read that whole explanation you quoted...they refer to deuterium and tritium...look up the atomic weight of those you used the atomic weight of hydrogen in your incorrect math Hey girlie boy, how does 1.00794 + 1.00794 = anything other then 2.01158 minus some lose for the energy (fusion) we receive as light and heat. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 129376 United States04/04/2009 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's see, the Earth is flat, planets don't exist, the Sun and Moon are the same size, volcanoes don't exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 650013You're just a real scientific genius there, aren't you ? This thread is about fusion, I'll debate you on all those subjects on my other threads and kick your ass just like I'm kicking it now leaving you completely defenseless in retorting. You will bow to my Truth, or you are bent to Lies. I've noticed from looking at a few of your other threads that you don't debate. You just spew your bullshit and don't even listen to what anyone else has to say. Because of this, why would someone be interested in "debating" you ? You are obviously completely ignorant of basic science, your arguments are childish, at the level of a 11 year old. My 11 year old daughter is more intelligent than you are. |
| AsperGirl User ID: 637830 United States04/04/2009 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey girlie boy, how does 1.00794 + 1.00794 = anything other then 2.01158 minus some lose for the energy (fusion) we receive as light and heat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 650013Let me spell it out for you since you came up with the clever "fusion debunking" argument: Heavy isotopes of hydrogen, deuterium and tritium deuterium's atomic mass is 2.01363 tritium's atomic mass is 3.016049 They fuse to form helium, helium's atomic mass is 4.002602 Now the atomic mass of the pre-fusion product adds to deuterim + tritium = 5.029679 which gives an atomic mass difference from helium of 5.029679 - 4.002602 = 1.027077 Now apply "eeee equals em see squared" and you get how much energy the nuclear reaction creates Last Edited by Andromeda on 04/04/2009 02:29 PM |
