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So here you go, the Death of Israel

 
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Clearly, A HIGHER POWER MUST intercede. We no longer make sense among ourselves. We have lost our ability to reason.
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Israel as a nation has to earn respect you just don't get it for free.....

treat others as equals..not do to others that was done to you...biggest concentration camp in the world Gaza.

Palestinians thrown of their land and out of their homes scattered to refugee camps all over the middle east.
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We're only protecting what is ours and we are no fools.

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They were syrians who just kind of wandered there. You know that.

Regardless? It has nothing to do with religious beliefs, Aaron.

Why must you be so grumpy?
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how am i being grumpy?
Regardless? It has nothing to do with religious beliefs, Aaron.

Why must you be so grumpy?
 Quoting: Only Me

of course, only me :)

..in reference to something i said?
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep"
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Israel as a nation has to earn respect you just don't get it for free.....

treat others as equals..not do to others that was done to you...biggest concentration camp in the world Gaza.

Palestinians thrown of their land and out of their homes scattered to refugee camps all over the middle east.


I agree this could have been dealt with a whole better. But please stop accusing the Israeli's for the failure.

The Palestinians have been offered multiple solutions, but they refused.
The opted in for rockets.
Now they play victim to get your money.
 Quoting: Ravan

I'm not going to debate you...

But Israel has the land, more weapons than enough and gets far more money. The Palestinians fight with sticks compared to what Israel has....if the world wasn't watching ...i hate to think....

thats all I have to say on this... peace
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Israel as a nation has to earn respect you just don't get it for free.....

treat others as equals..not do to others that was done to you...biggest concentration camp in the world Gaza.

Palestinians thrown of their land and out of their homes scattered to refugee camps all over the middle east.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585165

Except somehow, millions still live in Israel proper, and another few millions in the W.B., Gaza, etc.

Then there's the whole bit about "Palestinian" being a general term for everyone in the area, until the Arabs decided it was theirs alone, and used it to make it sound like they're a distinct group from the other millions of Arabs in the millions of square miles of Arab ruled lands.

And of course, the whole thing about Israel being only 10% or so of the former British Palestine...

:bpalestine:
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Israel as a nation has to earn respect you just don't get it for free.....

treat others as equals..not do to others that was done to you...biggest concentration camp in the world Gaza.

Palestinians thrown of their land and out of their homes scattered to refugee camps all over the middle east.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585165


You are misguided.

Who are you to judge Israel?

What do want from Israel? Politically? Religiously? Democratically? Parliamentary?

What is it that you want?

you want Israel to be soft on people that fire rockets to villages every day and gain strenght by the week?

you want Israel to wait when these rockets hit Dimona, or a large city?

you want us to wait to have our own 9/11?

what do you want Israel to do.
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They were syrians who just kind of wandered there. You know that.

Regardless? It has nothing to do with religious beliefs, Aaron.

Why must you be so grumpy?

how am i being grumpy?



Regardless? It has nothing to do with religious beliefs, Aaron.

Why must you be so grumpy?

of course, only me :)

..in reference to something i said?
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Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
A greyhound pass for the boy in the well.

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I'm not going to debate you...

But Israel has the land, more weapons than enough and gets far more money. The Palestinians fight with sticks compared to what Israel has....if the world wasn't watching ...i hate to think....

thats all I have to say on this... peace
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You want Israel to be wiped of the charts? Cause that is the other option as you know.

You like Islamic law in Tel Aviv, or Haifa.

You want to be judged according to the Sha-ria in Jerusalem?

You want to be blind folded?

If not,
please wake up!
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What is it that you want?

you want Israel to be soft on people that fire rockets to villages every day and gain strenght by the week?

you want Israel to wait when these rockets hit Dimona, or a large city?

you want us to wait to have our own 9/11?

what do you want Israel to do.
 Quoting: Ravan

Why do they fire rockets?

you cannot defeat a people. you can win battles and wars....but they only cause contempt and hatred.

fairness and respect is the road to peace..and it takes a lot of courage to go down that road...
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The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of stumbling to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem.

And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.

Zechariah 12:1-3
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In that day the LORD will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the LORD before them.

It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me, the Aleph and the Tau, the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

Zechariah 12:8-10
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I think you are all crazy and stupid
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I'm not going to debate you...

But Israel has the land, more weapons than enough and gets far more money. The Palestinians fight with sticks compared to what Israel has....if the world wasn't watching ...i hate to think....

thats all I have to say on this... peace
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You're right.
If the world wasn't watching the most terrible would have been done.

Very likely by my people.

I care to think it would be survival, but I'm intelligent enough to know it is not.

It is, what happened, too much, and too deadly. I agree.
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Why do they fire rockets?

you cannot defeat a people. you can win battles and wars....but they only cause contempt and hatred.

fairness and respect is the road to peace..and it takes a lot of courage to go down that road...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 585165

Wouldn't hurt if every time Israel extended it's hand, the Palis didn't spit on it. Maybe you're not old enough to remember the 90s peace talks, but Israel gave all sorts of concessions even as Palis were busy suicide bombing Israeli malls and other public places. Every time Israel agreed to a concession, Palis refused it, wanting more and more, trying to see how much they could get.

They bluffed and lost, and yet 5 years later, Israel still sat down with them, and exited Gaza and other locations. They were repaid with increased rocket strikes, and an attack from Lebanon.

For some reason, Arabs just don't seem to be happy unless Israel's bringing it's military prowess down on top of them. They're more interested in the sympathy card, somehow believing that if they keep at it, eventually the rest of the world will show up and start carting off Jews from the land, and give it all to Arabs.

It's kind of a bizarre way of thinking, IMO.

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Israel will be crushed
until the remaining
cry out to and for the One they Rejected.

Then He comes.
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When they do respond to Him, as it says in Zecharia 12, then ALL OF THE GENTILE NATIONS WILL BE DESTROYED.
THE JEWS WILL BE SAVED AND YOU WILL BE TOAST.
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For I will be like a lion to Ephraim, And like a young lion to the house of Judah. I, even I, will tear them and go away; I will take them away, and no one shall rescue.

I will return again to My place Till they acknowledge their offense. Then they will seek My face; In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me.

Come, and let us return to the LORD; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up.

Hosea 5:14,15. Hosea 6:1
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Israel will be crushed
until the remaining
cry out to and for the One they Rejected.

Then He comes.

When they do respond to Him, as it says in Zecharia 12, then ALL OF THE GENTILE NATIONS WILL BE DESTROYED.
THE JEWS WILL BE SAVED AND YOU WILL BE TOAST.

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crazy and stupid
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The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of stumbling to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem.

And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.

Zechariah 12:1-3
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you cannot defeat a people. you can win battles and wars....but they only cause contempt and hatred.

fairness and respect is the road to peace..and it takes a lot of courage to go down that road...
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They are not a people.
When do you learn?
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In that day the LORD will defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; the one who is feeble among them in that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the Angel of the LORD before them.

It shall be in that day that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me, the Aleph and the Tau, the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

Zechariah 12:8-10
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The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of stumbling to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem.

And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.

Zechariah 12:1-3

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For I will be like a lion to Ephraim, And like a young lion to the house of Judah. I, even I, will tear them and go away; I will take them away, and no one shall rescue.

I will return again to My place Till they acknowledge their offense. Then they will seek My face; In their affliction they will earnestly seek Me.

Come, and let us return to the LORD; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up.

Hosea 5:14,15. Hosea 6:1
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I do see Israel as ‘our’ land. Not because God promised it to us, but far more because it is our own land. Our space, not to be discussed, and if so, ours to defend.

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I do see Israel as ‘our’ land. Not because God promised it to us, but far more because it is our own land. Our space, not to be discussed, and if so, ours to defend.


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It should of never been allowed to happen the way it did..
"not to be discussed" .. indeed!

For a start.. that sums up the arrogant attitude of most Jews on this subject.

Like I pointed out to a particular poster here.. If you are going to act like a shallow deceptive d1ck(s).. don't be surprised when people turn around and get angry.

People get angry to show they don't approve of another's actions, not all of them are angry because they hate , angry can also equate to extreme disapproval... Hate emerges when all avenues to express that disapproval have been systematically removed.

So lets get started shall we?

In the forty or so years before the death of Queen Victoria that [url= [link to en.wikipedia.org] Benjamin James de Rothschild[/url] "HaNadiv HaYadu'a" and many other wealthy European Jews immigrated to Britain and swiftly changed laws that allowed a minority group like these fanatics that practised Hasidic Judaism to participate in The British Government.. regular Zionist gatherings were documented at the time (if you like I can try to find a few dates and places) .. The plan was already in place obviously.

Fast forward to the New York Jews using money and influence
to get the US to join WWI .. allowing the Palestinian campaign to go into Gaza and defeat the Ottoman Turks at the expense of many British, ANZAC and Arabs that were fighting with the British because they had been promised this would remain Arab land and this whole deal was subsequently reneged on. (This was the start of our modern day Middle -eastern conflict)

The rest is history..

So look at it from the angle your clueless 'goyim' sees all this for a second..

Our government was coerced by this overly influential minority group.. thousands of our men (not to mention the Arabs),not Jews were killed taking this place of 'yours' that you don't really want have to discuss

Fast Forward again to your latest attack on the civilians of Gaza, the animosity we are all treated to from Jews viz. the internal backslapping of how well the western media has been manipulated quoted by several Israeli officials.

Save your accusations of Anti-Semitism and the insistence that any disapproval of the actions of Jews is based on 'hate'

You know that the mask has been let slip ,now

There are real human values at stake here..

and Jews as a whole have shown they have little respect for any of them.
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Israel will be crushed
until the remaining
cry out to and for the One they Rejected.

Then He comes.
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Bingo, Why can't they see it now, but at some point they will.......
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The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of stumbling to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem.

And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.

Zechariah 12:1-3
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Yeah, right, and now fall dead Demon!
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you cannot defeat a people. you can win battles and wars....but they only cause contempt and hatred.

fairness and respect is the road to peace..and it takes a lot of courage to go down that road...


They are not a people.
When do you learn?
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But heres the problem, theres a religous text within your own ranks, that claims us goyim arent " people" ....

just like the radical Islmaists will claim we are infidels...your religous text claims we are " goyim/ sheep/cattle...
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They are not a people.
When do you learn?
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after that statement...why waste my breath....
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to put it simply...I NEVER want to be ruled by radical Islamists or radical zionist leaders/ elitists/ corruptors.
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The burden of the word of the LORD against Israel. Thus says the LORD, who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him:

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of stumbling to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem.

And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.

Zechariah 12:1-3


Yeah, right, and now fall dead Demon!
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lol what?

for posting bible verses?

hahahah
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They are not a people.
When do you learn?

after that statement...why waste my breath....
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agreed....kinda sad in a way

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