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So here you go, the Death of Israel

 
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israel and palestin children killed --123 israel children--1.487 palestin children.. israel adults killed .1.072 israel --palestinian 6.348.--israeli injured 8.864.--palestine 39.019.


Yeah, I agree, sucks big time, especially cause the rocket firing hasn't stopped, nor the bomb laying at the border.

How would you suggest Israel should stop Hamas or any of the terrorists?
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bombs at the border? Do Israeli's vacation in Gaza? Whats the point of the bombs at the border?
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DEMOLITIONS OF ISRAEL AND PALESTINIAN HOMES 1967 TO THE PRESENT...ISRAEL HAS DEMOLISHED 18.147 PALESTINIAN HOMES---PALESTINIAN HAVE DEMOLISHED NIL ISRAEL HOMES.
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The US Palestine-Israel Fairytale

A memorable quote in Mark Twain's Tom Sawyer Abroad (1894) still carries a wealth of relevance. He writes, "They own the [holy] land, just the mere land, and that's all they do own; but it was our folks, our Jews and Christians, that made it holy, and so they haven't any business to be there defiling it. It's a shame and we ought not to stand it a minute. We ought to march against them and take it away from them."



Recently an influential pastor, John Hagee of the Dallas's Cornerstone mega-church, followed his endorsement of Republican presidential candidate John McCain with some telling remarks. "What Senator McCain, I feel, needs to do to bring evangelicals into his camp is to make it very clear that he is a strong defender of Israel and that he has a strong 24 years of being pro-life. And I think on those two issues they will get on common ground and have a common understanding."



Such are the views of a man who has ever- growing influence among an ever-swelling culture in the US -- the evangelical Christian bloc. No mention was made of the well being of Palestinians, even Christian Palestinians, many of who are descendants of the early church.



To be sure, the human rights and needs of Palestinians are rarely addressed by American officials. On the rare occasion that they are, any expression of support must be closely followed by a strong condemnation of "Palestinian terrorism".



Welcome to America's parallel reality on Israel and Palestine, bare-faced in its defying the notions of common sense, equality and justice, ever-insistent on peeking at the Arab- Israeli conflict through a looking glass manufactured jointly in the church, in Congress and in the newsroom, where the world is reduced to characters interacting in a Hollywood-like movie set: good guys, well groomed and often white-skinned versus bad guys bearing opposite qualities.



One may become accustomed to watching, reading and listening to the chorus of support that America -- its politicians, most of its mainstream media and a large conglomerate of its churches and clergies -- tirelessly offers Israel. While the advocacy for Israel by various evangelical churches is both bizarre -- since the ultimate objective of this crowd is the annihilation of most Jews and the conversion of some as prerequisites for "the Rapture" -- and widely acknowledged, their influence on the political culture of America is not equally recognised. For example, Pastor Hagee, a televangelist to 99 million viewers, established Christians United for Israel (CUFI) in 2005 following the publication of his book, The Jerusalem Countdown: A Warning to the World. US writer Robert Weitzel explains, "Hagee envisions CUFI as the Christian version of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the powerful pro-Israel lobby whose political clout has significant influence on US foreign policy in the Middle East."



Journalist Max Blumenthal took his cameras to the CUFI's Washington-Israel summit held July 2007, in Washington DC. The result was a documentary entitled, Rapture Ready: The Unauthorised Christians United for Israel Tour. It opens with former Republican House Majority Leader Tom Delay, who is asked how important the Second Coming is as a factor in his support for Israel. "Obviously, it is what I live for. Really, I hope it comes tomorrow. Obviously, we need to be connected to Israel to enjoy the Second Coming of Christ."



Weitzel reports, "John Hagee is not without fawning friends in Washington. Presidential hopeful John McCain made a campaign stop at the summit and admitted to the audience that, 'it's very hard trying to do the Lord's work in the city of Satan ... ' House Minority Leader Whip Roy Blunt followed McCain to the podium and assured the faithful that 'This is a mission, this is a vision that I believe is a vision for God's time.' Senator Joe Lieberman was there and described Pastor Hagee as an 'Ish Elokim,' a man of God." Even President Bush sent his best wishes, "I appreciate CUFI members... for your passion and dedication to enhancing the relationship between the United States and Israel. Your efforts set a shining example for others ..."



While most US politicians are self-seeking, power-hungry and would do whatever it takes to be elected, the average American, though it may seem otherwise, is not born "pro-Israel" and "anti-Palestinian". Most Americans are pro the manufactured yet misleading images of Israel that reach their homes through television, wait at their doorsteps in the morning newspaper, and confront them through the web. Israel has mastery over the language of the Western media, which, again, helped create a parallel reality that has little correlation to the real world, that of facts, numbers and actual events. That alternative universe only exists on newspaper editorial pages, in mega-churches and in the blabber of Fox News "experts".



There is no serious or equitable debate regarding Palestine and Israel in the US corporate media, nor in any other US cultural, political and religious circles. If the existing narrative is to be called a debate, then it's one with an imagined, not real, language, almost entirely irrelevant to realities in Palestine and Israel; one that is largely predicated on a narrow minded, apocalyptic religious discourse that for decades has found itself an accepted point of departure for most politicians, even those who falsely pose as liberals.



Between the two discourses, that of misguided religious fantasies and pandering politicians, there maybe exists enough room for alternative narratives. Unfortunately, that space too is overwhelmed by cultural misconceptions, institutional bias and deliberate confusion introduced and instilled by media producers, pundits and other manufacturers of American popular culture.



Until the gatekeepers of US culture are seriously challenged, Palestine will continue to reside in American imagination as a battle between good and evil, a "Holy Land" that must be wrested from the hands of those who might have owned the land, at some point, but now "haven't any business to be there defiling it."





Ramzy Baroud


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So you dispute anything I said before as being factual at all,without having to point out what I said was wrong..

Have a go at some of this..
(and I hope I have made it clear I am not from the US )
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

[link to thesecrettempleofit.blogspot.com]
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JADR

Are you someone pretending to be a Jew?

How come , you don't call your god, G_D ?

peace

I do like your sig BTW.
 Quoting: mu1ti


I don't usually bother with surnames -
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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I like this one , he is silly !


hf


Call me silly if you wish - but you sure gave me a good laugh! I upgrade from vulgare antisemite to racist clown!

hf

I have already made it quite clear what causes the hate
by continuing to brand me antisemite or racist shows that your actions and claims are indicative of someone bent on continuing the charade that I explained in my first post.

you and only you are working from the angle of hate
If you are telling me I am not allowed to state facts that back up why I disapprove of the actions of Jews ?

I am of course going to tell you to go take a flying fuck at the moon.

You know that , I know that.. everyone knows that

Again!
It is you attempting to take the discourse about facts you do not want to hear to the argument that the facts are based on hate and conspiracy ..etc etc

It is you that is perpetuating the cycle of hate as you full well know.



yeah, yeah,
go now and ask for your reward.
don't forget to ask for the milk.

You got me , with that one..
It's going to have to be Lactose free..Thanks whatever
 Quoting: mu1ti



No its people like you that endlessly try to make me condemn, refute, discard, or redeem any horrific action or outcome of an act of war whether intended or collateral that caused the deaths of civilians and preferably for your pr babies and pregnant mothers.

You feed from the death, just to make your point that war ain't good for any.

You're disgusting and manipulative.
>! Fight Terror. Support Israel ! < Zionist by heart, mind and birth!
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JADR

Are you someone pretending to be a Jew?

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 [link to israelinsider.ning.com] 

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ALL I HEAR FROM YOU LOT ..IS WE HATE THE JEWS .ON MY PART THAT IS NOT TRUE ..BUT I HATE THE GREED OF THE JEWS .LIKE WE HATE THE GREED OF THE BANKERS THAT HAVE STOLEN PEOPLES MONEY.
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You can't get over that bullshit profile of mine??? lol
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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israel and palestin children killed --123 israel children--1.487 palestin children.. israel adults killed .1.072 israel --palestinian 6.348.--israeli injured 8.864.--palestine 39.019.


Yeah, I agree, sucks big time, especially cause the rocket firing hasn't stopped, nor the bomb laying at the border.

How would you suggest Israel should stop Hamas or any of the terrorists?

bombs at the border? Do Israeli's vacation in Gaza? Whats the point of the bombs at the border?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 638087


Read the news...
If you can't try, if you don't succeed, I'll provide you with some links that will learn you that several Palestinian terrorists have died thanks to the IDF whilst planting bombs.


But you're right, whats the point of bombs at the border when you know for sure the heroic IDF will prevent and kill?
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ALL I HEAR FROM YOU LOT ..IS WE HATE THE JEWS .ON MY PART THAT IS NOT TRUE ..BUT I HATE THE GREED OF THE JEWS .LIKE WE HATE THE GREED OF THE BANKERS THAT HAVE STOLEN PEOPLES MONEY.
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Well, you know, if that is true what you say; do you think I'm screwed like you, or do I benefit from your loss?
>! Fight Terror. Support Israel ! < Zionist by heart, mind and birth!
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Israel was founded by Nazi style mentally ill leaders right at the get go. The people there are as good or as bad as people are anywhere else. The leaders can lead a country to be ruined. Israel=endless wars. Such a pity and a shame that they won't face up to the millions of Palestinins refugees they have been displaced from their lands.
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You can't get over that bullshit profile of mine??? lol
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It serves its purpose. Which is to make you even more of a laughing stock than you already are. Thanks for updating it, its much better than when you were simply stating your very non-Jewish bisexual preference.
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Israel was founded by Nazi style mentally ill leaders right at the get go. The people there are as good or as bad as people are anywhere else. The leaders can lead a country to be ruined. Israel=endless wars. Such a pity and a shame that they won't face up to the millions of Palestinins refugees they have been displaced from their lands.
 Quoting: OMG 204994


You are brainwashed.

Palestinians have been offered multiple scenarios which they did not accept. They court the victim card like no other.
>! Fight Terror. Support Israel ! < Zionist by heart, mind and birth!
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Hang on there..

You are also starting to sound pretty hateful, sorry

condemn, refute, discard by any means, my friend.
Though to redeem any horrific action or outcome of an act of war is to merely perpetuate the cycle.. so I am not at all sure what you are trying say there.

I am not trying to be manipulative ,only the facts that history has embedded in it .. that you can't change this but of who's existence you try to deny anyway.

Who's being manipulative then?

Do say there were no gentile or Arab blood shed in capturing of Gaza in WW 1 ?

There is a street or something there called Allenby named after Field Marshal Edmund Allenby.. I saw it mentioned in a news report just the other day. Also as you well know there are many places named after several generations of Rothchild in Israel.

Is this not true?

Come on , here try and approach this with a little love in your hearts.
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

[link to thesecrettempleofit.blogspot.com]
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As an European, I have followed, discussed, and ignored all the threads of last weeks that seemingly had just one purpose; to make Jews look bad.

I am a Jew. An European Jew. Not by choice. But by birth. Not something I choose for. It happened to be so.

Yes, I have been told all the stories, and are very familiar with the atrocities of the second world war. I think that I have less than half of the family you have. Although this is an every day reality for my parents, and therefore somehow for me, I don’t hold this against any of you that only learned what happened in the Nazi death camps from school books.

You see, I don’t live in Israel ( my brother does), but I don’t.

I do see Israel as ‘our’ land. Not because God promised it to us, but far more because it is our own land. Our space, not to be discussed, and if so, ours to defend.

You, all, want the world, with your President, to become soft on Iran, soft on Hamas, soft on the PA, and strong on Israel.

To what purpose?

Israel is a democracy. Not perfect. But hey, what democracy is?
But compare the Israeli an democracy with Hamas, the Palestinian Authority, Hezbollah, the neighboring Arabic nations and so fort, and you have to admit that Israel ain’t doing too bad.

Make Israel soft, strengthen all that have less respect for freedom, equality between sexes, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of trade, freedom of how the world will end..

Why?

Because you hate Jews?
Why?

The death of Israel will only be through God’s hands. Never by yours.
 Quoting: Ravan

"make Israel soft, strengthen all that have less respect for freedom, equality between sexes, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of trade, freedom of how the world will end.."

I HAVE ONE THING FOR YOU! THE TRUTH. IF YOU ARE STILL WONDERING WHY YOU ARE DISLIKED.

"Apr 3, 2009
Israeli orthodox newspapers alter cabinet photo to remove women
Photobucket

Expunged on the pages of Yated Neeman are the female ministers Limor Livnat and Sofa Landver. Adding insult to injury the deleted women have been replaced with men. The other Orthodox paper, Shaa Tova, simply blacked-out the women as though they are non-existent beings.

The comparison with Afghanistan doesn't end with the deletion of women's images. Take Beit Shemesh for example, an ultra-Orthodox enclave west of Jerusalem. The women in this community are required to wear burqa-like coverings. The head covering they wear is named a 'sal'."

[link to aidanmaconachyblog.blogspot.com]

STILL WONDERING WHY YOU ARE DISLIKED? STOP POINTING FINGERS AND CLEAN UP YOUR OWN DAMN HOUSE. LIAR.
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You just opened a big can of worms lol!!! I gave up a long time ago on those stupid threads...it all boils down to one thing and one thing only:

Hate.

rolleyes propoganda dumbass

:slappy734: :slappy734: :slappy734:

so on these stupid threads you have given up, or are you okay with contradiction?


I'm okay with contradiction aaron but I don't appreciate your having called me an idiot because you disagreed with me. Don't ask me for a link - I've already forgotten, but that is exactly what you did.

I gave up on those threads because of people like you.
 Quoting: Only Me

When you say: "it all boils down to one thing and one thing only:

Hate."

You are acting as an idiot.
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Israel as a nation has to earn respect you just don't get it for free.....

treat others as equals..not do to others that was done to you...biggest concentration camp in the world Gaza.

Palestinians thrown of their land and out of their homes scattered to refugee camps all over the middle east.


I agree this could have been dealt with a whole better. But please stop accusing the Israeli's for the failure.

The Palestinians have been offered multiple solutions, but they refused.
The opted in for rockets.
Now they play victim to get your money.
 Quoting: Ravan

lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao

UNF****BELIEVABLE
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I't is just as well the Native American Indian does not have the same attitude AND the military capacity!

Don't use the conduct of a fool as a precedent. - The Talmud

“Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.” Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
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JADR

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You can't get over that bullshit profile of mine??? lol


It serves its purpose. Which is to make you even more of a laughing stock than you already are. Thanks for updating it, its much better than when you were simply stating your very non-Jewish bisexual preference.
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Lesson for you Batflap - just because you read it somewhere does not make it true...The entire profile is a joke, and just a means of communication.

Why or why are you so gullible?
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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Israel was founded by Nazi style mentally ill leaders right at the get go. The people there are as good or as bad as people are anywhere else. The leaders can lead a country to be ruined. Israel=endless wars. Such a pity and a shame that they won't face up to the millions of Palestinins refugees they have been displaced from their lands.


You are brainwashed.

Palestinians have been offered multiple scenarios which they did not accept. They court the victim card like no other.
 Quoting: Ravan



The "real offer" is the right to return to their home, their land. So it seems that You are brainwashed.
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Israel was founded by Nazi style mentally ill leaders right at the get go. The people there are as good or as bad as people are anywhere else. The leaders can lead a country to be ruined. Israel=endless wars. Such a pity and a shame that they won't face up to the millions of Palestinins refugees they have been displaced from their lands.


You are brainwashed.

Palestinians have been offered multiple scenarios which they did not accept. They court the victim card like no other.



The "real offer" is the right to return to their home, their land. So it seems that You are brainwashed.
 Quoting: OMG 204994


Do libyan & Yemenite jews have a right to return in Lybia & Yemen?

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Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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JADR

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You can't get over that bullshit profile of mine??? lol


It serves its purpose. Which is to make you even more of a laughing stock than you already are. Thanks for updating it, its much better than when you were simply stating your very non-Jewish bisexual preference.



Lesson for you Batflap - just because you read it somewhere does not make it true...The entire profile is a joke, and just a means of communication.

Why or why are you so gullible?
 Quoting: JADR


Now I am confused, are you Jewish or not?

I do think you are sort of cute
:hflag:
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

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Hang on there..

You are also starting to sound pretty hateful, sorry

condemn, refute, discard by any means, my friend.
Though to redeem any horrific action or outcome of an act of war is to merely perpetuate the cycle.. so I am not at all sure what you are trying say there.

I am not trying to be manipulative ,only the facts that history has embedded in it .. that you can't change this but of who's existence you try to deny anyway.

Who's being manipulative then?

Do say there were no gentile or Arab blood shed in capturing of Gaza in WW 1 ?

There is a street or something there called Allenby named after Field Marshal Edmund Allenby.. I saw it mentioned in a news report just the other day. Also as you well know there are many places named after several generations of Rothchild in Israel.

Is this not true?

Come on , here try and approach this with a little love in your hearts.
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Perhaps you're right and I indeed started to sound hateful myself. Don't know what triggered that other than all the times I had to so-called 'condemn' actions not made by me, horrific, perhaps necessarily, but nevertheless imposing endless hate and sorrow. Who is to judge, not only the soldier at the front, but also the Jew living thousands of miles away?

Yes, you are right to add history. Like I am I guess. Whether I intended to manipulate this I have to pass. I did not by purpose, but perhaps by opinion.

There has been too much blood wasted in Arabic territories for a long long time. Treason, deception, cultivation, intervention, treason, etc are all very tangible assets to most Arabic leaders or peoples today.


But are we, the Jews, to blame?
I think not.

Are we the Jews to blame we defend, protect and claim our land?
I think not.

Are we the Jews to blame that we do not wait for yet another destruction to surprise us?
I don't think so.

Are we the Jews to blame that we -- together -- hear; Hello, hello you are free...!
Don't think so either.

Are we the Jews to blame?
I don't know, if so, I can guarantee you they have my balls as well.

Will the hate against Jews ever stop?
I don't think so, I fear my grand parents would fear again. This time not for their lives, but for mine.

Could you stop that?
Yes!!
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YOU WANT THE NEWS RAVAN ----JAN 27 2009 ....AMERICAN MEDIA ARE REPORTING VIOLENCE THAT TOOK PLACE ALONG GAZA -ISRAEL BORDER ON JAN 27TH AS .IN THE WORDS OF CNN THE FIRST INCIDENT OF VIOLENCE SINCE LAST WEEKS MIDEAST CEASE -FIRE .TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT PALESTINIANS BROKE THE CEASFIRE ,,THE REALITY HOWEVER IS THAT ISRAEL HAD ALREADY VIOLATED THE CEASFIRE 7 TIMES ,LINK WWW.IFAMERICANSKNEW.ORG=======WHO OWNS THE NEWS
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As an European, I have followed, discussed, and ignored all the threads of last weeks that seemingly had just one purpose; to make Jews look bad.

I am a Jew. An European Jew. Not by choice. But by birth. Not something I choose for. It happened to be so.

Yes, I have been told all the stories, and are very familiar with the atrocities of the second world war. I think that I have less than half of the family you have. Although this is an every day reality for my parents, and therefore somehow for me, I don’t hold this against any of you that only learned what happened in the Nazi death camps from school books.

You see, I don’t live in Israel ( my brother does), but I don’t.

I do see Israel as ‘our’ land. Not because God promised it to us, but far more because it is our own land. Our space, not to be discussed, and if so, ours to defend.

You, all, want the world, with your President, to become soft on Iran, soft on Hamas, soft on the PA, and strong on Israel.

To what purpose?

Israel is a democracy. Not perfect. But hey, what democracy is?
But compare the Israeli an democracy with Hamas, the Palestinian Authority, Hezbollah, the neighboring Arabic nations and so fort, and you have to admit that Israel ain’t doing too bad.

Make Israel soft, strengthen all that have less respect for freedom, equality between sexes, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of trade, freedom of how the world will end..

Why?

Because you hate Jews?
Why?

The death of Israel will only be through God’s hands. Never by yours.
 Quoting: Ravan




For the love of god, shutup already. I don't "hate" Jews, it seems most Jews do wish this though so it can add in favor of whineing.
JADR

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Re: So here you go, the Death of Israel
JADR

Are you someone pretending to be a Jew?




 [link to israelinsider.ning.com] 




You can't get over that bullshit profile of mine??? lol


It serves its purpose. Which is to make you even more of a laughing stock than you already are. Thanks for updating it, its much better than when you were simply stating your very non-Jewish bisexual preference.



Lesson for you Batflap - just because you read it somewhere does not make it true...The entire profile is a joke, and just a means of communication.

Why or why are you so gullible?


Now I am confused, are you Jewish or not?

I do think you are sort of cute
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If it said I was a mormon, would you believe it?
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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YOU WANT THE NEWS RAVAN ----JAN 27 2009 ....AMERICAN MEDIA ARE REPORTING VIOLENCE THAT TOOK PLACE ALONG GAZA -ISRAEL BORDER ON JAN 27TH AS .IN THE WORDS OF CNN THE FIRST INCIDENT OF VIOLENCE SINCE LAST WEEKS MIDEAST CEASE -FIRE .TELLING THE PUBLIC THAT PALESTINIANS BROKE THE CEASFIRE ,,THE REALITY HOWEVER IS THAT ISRAEL HAD ALREADY VIOLATED THE CEASFIRE 7 TIMES ,LINK WWW.IFAMERICANSKNEW.ORG=======WHO OWNS THE NEWS
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You know I think I'm way better in reading biased and propaganda news. You know, I'm a Jew, I have been gifted with an extra gen for this.
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watch out JADR; you have a fan
Here is where I look back.
Here is where you fell.
This is where I got up,
Shaking off my tail
This is where your rope trick
Started to look stale.
A greyhound pass for the boy in the well.

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Re: So here you go, the Death of Israel
Israel was founded by Nazi style mentally ill leaders right at the get go. The people there are as good or as bad as people are anywhere else. The leaders can lead a country to be ruined. Israel=endless wars. Such a pity and a shame that they won't face up to the millions of Palestinins refugees they have been displaced from their lands.


You are brainwashed.

Palestinians have been offered multiple scenarios which they did not accept. They court the victim card like no other.



The "real offer" is the right to return to their home, their land. So it seems that You are brainwashed.


To libyan & Yemenite jews have a right to return in Lybia & Yemen?
 Quoting: JADR


The European Ashkenazim invaders started the expelling of the non Jews from Palestine. The blowback was then the rest of the Middle East follow suite against the people of the Jewish faith. Such a sad tragic story....When will they all realize the insanity of their religious beliefs when it promotes separation between the people. BTW the Ashkenazim treat the Sephardi like they are lower class undesirables. The DNA of the Sephardi are closer to the Christian and Muslim Arabs, then the European Ashkenazim.