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Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'

 
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Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'
The paper ends with this sentence: “Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.”

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A back-scattered electron (BSE) image featured in the newly published paper.
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Re: Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'
Which peer reviewed journal. It is unclear.
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Which peer reviewed journal. It is unclear.
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Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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If it is active and unreacted then it did not burn to bring the building down. So if it exists it could well have been scattered after the fact.
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Re: Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'
Wow! thats a nice photo of antirust primer with a layer of rust. Are you aware that the spectral signature of such a sample is no different to that of thermate?
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Re: Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'
Posted on another forum: [link to forums.randi.org]


Bentham's Open Chemical Physics Journal has, in its brief lifespan, produced ( [link to www.bentham.org] exactly two issues. With a total of 12 articles between them, so far.

Their Editorial Advisory Board, on the other hand, has an astounding ( [link to www.bentham.org] 100 members.

As you saw from the e-mail they sent me, they expect each of these people to pop out a paper every year. Apparently, these individuals are of such high caliber that less than half can even do that, assuming a rather high five authors per article and no overlaps, even if the entire publication history of the Journal comes from its own editors. I don't have to tell you that this isn't what "editor" usually means -- typically they review works submitted by other people. Otherwise, you have a closed community, reviewing each other, each with a mutual stake in success. That's not peer review. That's advocate review.

ETA: Out of the 12 articles published so far, only five do not have at least one Editorial Board Member as a co-author. These are the first four articles (suggesting they may have been on the Editorial Board, but since departed or been kicked out) and Dr. Jones's article. Damn.

ETAII: I missed this the first time -- they did not latch onto me because I complained about their reviewing process before. I did that on my own time from my home e-mail. Their invitation to me went to my work e-mail. I have about 40 articles of my own out there, I'm not hard to find.

Tell me, O Truth Movement faithful, was this Journal Dr. Jones's first choice?? Why?

Apparently, you really can fool some of the people all of the time. cool
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Re: Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'
If you still can't figure out why Dr. Jones's own data shows the stuff isn't thermite, then you really need to seek help from a professional. We've made it about as clear as we can.

The advantages of the nanothermite -- the real nanothermite made by Tillotson and his team -- are that it is more uniform and predictable, has a relatively fast reaction time, and has a substantially LOWER ignition temperature than normal thermite, yet high relative to some other compounds including explosives. However, it has an extremely low energy density, about 1/30th that of ordinary gasoline, and 1/3 that of TNT.

What you would want in the WTC case is something with inordinately high energy density, an extremely high thermal stability, and a very low reaction rate. Real nanothermite does not fit this bill at all.

What Dr. Jones has found is a substance that burns readily in air, ignited at ordinary fire temperatures, and has a wildly varying energy content albeit in no way competitive with normal combustibles like wood or paper, let alone jet fuel or gasoline. This is not a match to nanothermite, nor does it have properties advantageous or even faintly usable for any WTC demolition scenario.

It is, however, utterly consistent with organics containing sphere-like and plate-like structures of aluminum and iron, and their oxides, at decidedly larger-than-nano sizes. Like paint. Paint burns. Paint burns in air with a similar ignition temperature and a comparable energy density, and not being designed to burn would burn somewhat unpredictably depending on how it was dried and its substrate. Perfect bloody match to what Dr. Jones found.

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Re: Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'
Wow! thats a nice photo of antirust primer with a layer of rust. Are you aware that the spectral signature of such a sample is no different to that of thermate?
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If the fire was hot enough to melt the steel it must have been fire proof paint ! Also magnetic as they pull the chips out of the dust using a magnet ! { Its thermite !! } I just want to know how Bin Laden got it in the three buildings !!
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Re: Another Peer Reviewed Paper Published in Scientific Journal - 'Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust...'
Wow! thats a nice photo of antirust primer with a layer of rust. Are you aware that the spectral signature of such a sample is no different to that of thermate?

If the fire was hot enough to melt the steel it must have been fire proof paint ! Also magnetic as they pull the chips out of the dust using a magnet ! { Its thermite !! } I just want to know how Bin Laden got it in the three buildings !!
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If the fire was hot enough to melt the steel - the only ones claiming that are 911 loonies!

it must have been fire proof paint - from the amount recovered there must have been a tens if not hundreds of tons of it - probably about right for rust primer painted on all the steel!

Also magnetic as they pull the chips out of the dust using a magnet ! { Its thermite !! }

Don't you think that a paint chip layered with rust might be attracted to a magnet? - oh wait, no - you don't think at all do you!?
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Video Explination by Steven Jone! [link to www.911blogger.com]
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Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !

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