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WTF !!! Scientists find active 'super-thermite' in WTC dust

 
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the powers that be know they can get away with what ever they want. They can cover up all their crimes through thier bought off media which they own.

The problem is most folks don't want to confront the wrongs the rich government bankster people do because they dont' want to cause themselves problems.

The thing is though. There really are only a very few rich/politican/wallstreet banksters. They could be talked to personally and maybe they'd clean up their act.
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Kevin Ryan lost his job as a lab director after writing a letter to the National Institute for Standards and Technology(NIST was conducting an investigation into 9/11 at the time) challenging the common theory that burning jet fuel weakened the steel supports holding up the 110-story skyscrapers. Ryan claims that the owner of his laboratory subsidiary "was the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the WTC buildings,” according to the South Bend Tribune.
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CERTIFIED STEEL? What are they talking about? Are there laboratories that test steel to see if it is strong enough to build giant buildings from? Do they test it to see if it will melt if some burning jet fuel gets on it?

Imagine that burning jet fuel was about the same temperature as burning gasoline. Then imagine that steel melts at about the same temperature as cast iron. Then imagine that your car has a gasoline engine made from cast iron, which has burning gasoline in it. How come your iron engine doesn't melt? Burning fuel, right? In a car fire, how come the engine doesn't melt into a puddle?
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U.S. Air Force fighter pilot, former instructor at the USAF Fighter Weapons School and NATO’s Tactical Leadership Program, with a 20-year Air Force career (Lt. Colonel Guy S. Razer) said the following:

"I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government ....

Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it.
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"We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders. The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!"
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dick
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great video --people power.
a weapon.
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What an ass kicking..who went to Jail? 5a peace
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U.S. Marine Corps lieutenant colonel, a fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown and a 21-year Marine Corps career (Lt. Colonel Shelton F. Lankford) believes that 9/11 was an inside job, and said:

"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future. ...

Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.

If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? ....

Are you afraid that you will learn the truth and you can't handle it? ..."
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Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (bio)

Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that 9/11 was an inside job. He also said:
"If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"
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Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg recently said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath.
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A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke”, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.
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This NEW EVIDENCE merits a new and objective invertigation
- with legal authority - to finally get a scientifically
sound explanation for the presence of thermite and how
it was related to the destruction of the WTC buildings
and death of 1000's of humans.

Those responsible MUST be HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND PUNISHED
ACCORDINGLY (this might be the one instance i would
agree with sharia law in regard to punishment for
the perps in this case - wonder what that punsihment
would be?).
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hose photos of planes hitting the Towers were always too "fuzzy", same with the flash at nose penetration of South Tower (North even fuzzier).

So I let that slide, though I don't think that passenger jets were involved in ANY of the 4 "impacts".

They may have taken off with their passenger lists, maybe not. If they did take off, they were "replaced", in my guesstimate... Witness & Air Traffic Controller reports of the flight landing in Cleveland, and the passengers taken off to a hangar are chilling. Their DNA was (supposedly) "identified" at the morgue where military trucks brought them - along with the dead (employees) of the Pentagon. Fishy stuff - but all in all, I'll stick to what's been "demonstrated". The rest might or might not come to the light of day - don't need to "waste effort" on shoestrings, when there is so much that's just plain obvious to anyone who isn't beheld to his "belief system" (the major reason for so much resistance to evidence).

So

Physical evidence (partial, the list goes on)

WTC 7

Thermite residue in ALL NYC "dust"

Absence of pancaked floors stacked up in NYC

Absence of core columns sticking up like spaghetti in NYC

All columns "cut" to "trailer-length" in NYC

High speed of fall of all buildings in NYC

Molten liquid "lava" steel below the Towers 5 weeks later still

Absence of jetliner remains at the Pentagon

Absence of jetliner remains in Shanksville, PA (flight 93)

Three rings of fortified concrete buildings at Pentagon "pierced" by a single "object"




Then the "potential complicity" evidence,

All those who "pushed" the "official story",

Those who told us it was Bin Laden that very same day

Those who bought the extraordinary "put options" on JUST the two airline companies involved (bought through Buzzy Crongard - ex-cia chief' trading firm, and the records at the Chicago exchange "disappeared",

those who warned their employees not to go work in the towers that day

Condi Rice telling the Mayor of San Francisco not to fly the day before

FEMA setting up camp in lower manhattan for a huge "drill" the day before

the bomb-sniffing dog crews that had been at the towers since the previous bombing removed 2 weeks before

Giuliani evacuating WTC7 - where he had a 2 story "bunker", with bomb-proof glass, separate supplies of water, power, and air, facing the Towers... in the morning... where it should have been the "control center" for a RESCUE - not a DEMOLITION...

The shut-down of security power in the towers several times in the days leading up to 9/11

The SEC investigation files in WTC offices going "poof"

The Trillion missing from the Pentagon investigation files going "poof" in the Pentagon

The black-out on all video from the Pentagon

The "lock-down" of ALL military "defense" of our skies, including Pentagon automatic missile defense

The hoax of the "heroes" of Flight 93

The "$100k money trail to Mohammed Atta" guy, Pakistani ISS (CIA) head in Washington before & after. During, he was having breakfast with the heads of the Intelligence Committees of both houses of Congress - Porter Goss (later CIA head) and Bob Graham (later Presidential Candidate). Same ISS guy having meetings before & after with top executive & spy heads.

The "Anthrax Attacks" on Journalists & Democratic leaders (shut up, already!)


Then the testimonies -

from the janitor to the German ex-Secretary of Defense - saying it was "demolition"

and on & on...

All that from a cave in Afghanistan? Gimme an effing break!
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When is somebody going to put a website named "WakeUpthePeons.org?"

These freakin` sheople have to wake up sooner or later!

And there ain't no sheople who aren't a peon!
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"I would find it very difficult to believe the CIA would deliberately destroy evidence material to the 9/11 investigation, evidence that would cover up a core truth, such as who really was behind 9/11."

And people say that "conspiracy theorists" refuse to consider any other possibility when it comes to 9/11.

How many fucking lies and coverups and crimes does one need to accidentally discover- I mean we're not exactly the ones running the investigation- before people stop deceiving themselves? Will it ever be enough to escape this mental prison so man seem to be trapped in? Why on Earth would any sane, rational person thik that the CIA would do what it has been doing since it's inception? It reminds me of the people who find themselves gobsmacked every time Rodney King is involved in yet another criminal act.

IT'S WHAT THEY DO.

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB AND THE RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE ECONOMY, THE MSM AND THE GOVERNMENT.

GET OVER IT ALREADY.
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bump.....further we must bring these culprits, OUR LEADERS, to trial and be tried for the murder of at least 1,000,000 innocent people.

Especially, for the MURDER of 2,000- 3,000 dead innocent Americans who died at the WTC and our dead and mained soldiers in the field.

The American people didn`t stand for President Nixon`s "breaking and entering", and surely WE CANNOT STAND FOR, AND CANNOT ACCEPT, THE DELIBERATE MURDER OF OUR PEOPLE BY ""OUR ELECTED LEADERS"".

There can be NO closure of this matter until these "SERIAL KILLERS" of YOUR people, MY people, """ARE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE".

THEY MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.....NO COMPROMISE.

LEGION

"LET JUSTICE BE SERVED OR LET THE HEAVENS FALL".

"KINGDOMS CANNOT CHANGE UNTIL THE HEARTS OF MEN CHANGE".
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Re: CIA's gift to godlike productions Quote

"I spent a career in the CIA trying to orchestrate plots, wasn't all that good at it, and certainly couldn't carry off 9/11. Nor could the real pros I had the pleasure to work with."

That's why they asked the Mossad for help!
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CIA's gift to godlike productions Quote

If there are any CIA assets on this thread, let me take this oppotunity to tell you to go fuck yourself.

This is America, we dont torture people.
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Active 'super thermite', shore sounds impotent, eh???

dance
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For those of us with access to the internet, and a timeline spanning more than just this decade, one can CLEARLY see, i mean clearly, beyond any fucking shadow of a doubt, that the CIA is nothing more than an organized crime syndicate which is allowd to exist because it belongs to the elite.

The list of crimes ("operations" as they call them) is extensive, to say the least.

The truth is in plain site, and there is nothing they can do to hide it. Its just a question of how much fucking longer its going to take for Americans to WAKE UP and have the damn thing removed, like the cancer it is.

We can not move forward until secrets are out in the open. And so long as the CIA exists, there will be secrets witheld from the public who pay for it with their taxes.
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EVERY time something comes to light about CIA activities they involve drugs, illegals arms, etc, has anybody ever gone to jail?? Has there ever been any real investigation other than when Ollie lied and was pardoned? NEVER

Drugs are illegal because the worlds largest dealer is the CIA and they don't want to lose their source of black op money on top of what is legally given to them. It's obvious they are just a criminal organization crusading as 'protectors' of the sheeple. Similar to all those homosexual preachers lieing to their congregation every week then doing things they shouldn't.
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When is somebody going to put a website named "WakeUpthePeons.org?"

These freakin` sheople have to wake up sooner or later!

And there ain't no sheople who aren't a peon!
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You know,, right as you were writing that post I was sitting here thinking of something similar.

I was thinking of a private funded "THE PEOPLE`S HOUSE"

This body would consists of true patriots offering a stage for discussion and investigations independant of goverment.
I see 1,00 scientists coming forward to offer their independant analys of a verity of topics like WTC, Global Warming, The Crash Of Our Economy, ect, ect.

Their testimony`s would be open to all using alternative news outlets via the internet. A true independant body.

Then The thought came,,,, NA, the goverment would never allow it.
It was a nice thought while it lasted.
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the rich bankster/wallstreeter/politicans see the peasants as cattle to be used. But you have to prod the stupid cattle into what direction you want them to go.
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It's common sense. Jet planes are big, and have X amount of energy given their mass and speed and the amount of fuel in their tanks. However, it would take X to the power of TEN the amount of energy required to demolish not just one but TWO of the tallest buildings in the world.

No way these planes could impart enough energy to completely destroy buildings 100O times their own mass. The only thing that could do that is an additional source of energy, i.e. high energy explosives.
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For those of us with access to the internet, and a timeline spanning more than just this decade, one can CLEARLY see, i mean clearly, beyond any fucking shadow of a doubt, that the CIA is nothing more than an organized crime syndicate which is allowd to exist because it belongs to the elite.

The list of crimes ("operations" as they call them) is extensive, to say the least.

The truth is in plain site, and there is nothing they can do to hide it. Its just a question of how much fucking longer its going to take for Americans to WAKE UP and have the damn thing removed, like the cancer it is.

We can not move forward until secrets are out in the open. And so long as the CIA exists, there will be secrets witheld from the public who pay for it with their taxes.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 304329


EVERY time something comes to light about CIA activities they involve drugs, illegals arms, etc, has anybody ever gone to jail?? Has there ever been any real investigation other than when Ollie lied and was pardoned? NEVER

Drugs are illegal because the worlds largest dealer is the CIA and they don't want to lose their source of black op money on top of what is legally given to them. It's obvious they are just a criminal organization crusading as 'protectors' of the sheeple. Similar to all those homosexual preachers lieing to their congregation every week then doing things they shouldn't.
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You're absolutely right - elements of the CIA are corrupt criminals exactly like the KGB, ISI, Mossad. They are in cahoots with organized crime. They killed JFK, Robert Kennedy, nearly killed Reagan, and probably will kill Obama.

The only thing I disagree about your post is the bit about the homosexual preachers - the government is giving me a better ass raping than any homo can!
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william black

"Now, going forward, get rid of the people that have caused the problems. That's a pretty straightforward thing, as well. Why would we keep CEOs and CFOs and other senior officers of administrations , that caused the problems? That's facially nuts. That's our current system, and its how they keep from telling the public the truth.

So stop that current system. We're hiding the losses, instead of trying to find out the real losses. Stop that, because you need good information to make good decisions, right? Follow what works instead of what's failed. Start appointing people who have records of success, instead of records of failure. That would be another nice place to start. There are lots of things we can do. Even today, as late as it is. Even though they've had a terrible start to the administration. They could change, and they could change within weeks."
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Why do any of you even care? 9/11 "truth" has not even the least connection to any worthwhile truth.

An opportunity for encroaching on individual rights would have been manufactured or seized, regardless of the particular nature of the event.

IT DOES NOT MATTER IN THE LEAST WHOSE HANDIWORK WTC WAS. WAKE UP PARANOIA PUPPIES.
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The difference of 'being allowed to happen' and 'being carried out by' is huge. : p
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IT DOES NOT MATTER IN THE LEAST WHOSE HANDIWORK WTC WAS. WAKE UP PARANOIA PUPPIES.
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Doesn't matter? You wouldn't care if your country attacked its own people to justify a war? that's the concern. IF that's the case, what else has happen?

Here's where it matters, say it with me. "Revolution/Civil War to install a new government"
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Why do any of you even care? 9/11 "truth" has not even the least connection to any worthwhile truth.

An opportunity for encroaching on individual rights would have been manufactured or seized, regardless of the particular nature of the event.

IT DOES NOT MATTER IN THE LEAST WHOSE HANDIWORK WTC WAS. WAKE UP PARANOIA PUPPIES.
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That contains no common sense. So I guess one does not need to know who is friend and who is enemy?
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Why do any of you even care? 9/11 "truth" has not even the least connection to any worthwhile truth.

An opportunity for encroaching on individual rights would have been manufactured or seized, regardless of the particular nature of the event.

IT DOES NOT MATTER IN THE LEAST WHOSE HANDIWORK WTC WAS. WAKE UP PARANOIA PUPPIES.
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Fuck off you fucking evil NAZI bastard!!!

stfu
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The posters on this thread are what make GLP shine! We can't be accused of being sheep anymore.
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