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Thoughts Faux Fodder User ID: 684049 United States 05/23/2009 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i love fractals :-) there are a lot of physicists who think M theory will unify the seeming contradictions - they are completing Einsteins work, he simply ran out of time...... Last Edited by Thoughts Faux Fodder on 05/23/2009 10:14 AM Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 683972 Australia 05/23/2009 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Non-linear Mathematics Common methods for the qualitative analysis of nonlinear ordinary differential equations include: * Examination of any conserved quantities, especially in Hamiltonian systems. * Examination of dissipative quantities (see Lyapunov function) analogous to conserved quantities. * Linearization via Taylor expansion. * Change of variables into something easier to study. * Bifurcation theory. * Perturbation methods (can be applied to algebraic equations too). [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Thoughts Faux Fodder User ID: 684049 United States 05/23/2009 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think in 2011 when LISA gets put up into space we'll get one step closer to finding out how this all works. :) Quoting: BurningBeardohhh i cannot wait :-) [link to lisa.nasa.gov] for those who are curious :-) Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
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Thoughts Faux Fodder User ID: 684049 United States 05/23/2009 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks for the vids Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684084Elegant Universe by Nova, i loved this this series :-) part one- the others are on Google as well :-) Last Edited by Thoughts Faux Fodder on 05/23/2009 09:25 AM Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
Qualia User ID: 685610 United States 05/23/2009 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, because quantum physics is relevant to reality and makes no sense, just like relativity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648995I meant "irrelevant", sorry. 648995, lol, I did initially read the word "irrelevant" in your first sentence and went back and reread what you corrected. This tells me just how deeply ingrained my thoughts are that quauntum pyshics references a closed system, "reality," and is irrelevant to the largest scope of existence in the entirety of its form. It only makes sense and is relative locally (and within the limited knowledge base of science), regardless of how seemingly big that local spatiality is. If you spin in your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 683972 Australia 05/23/2009 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | `and even if my head would go through,' thought poor Alice, `it would be of very little use without my shoulders. Oh, how I wish I could shut up like a telescope! I think I could, if I only know how to begin.' |
Thoughts Faux Fodder User ID: 684049 United States 05/23/2009 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and down the rabbit hole we go once more.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683972`and even if my head would go through,' thought poor Alice, `it would be of very little use without my shoulders. Oh, how I wish I could shut up like a telescope! I think I could, if I only know how to begin.' Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
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Thoughts Faux Fodder User ID: 684049 United States 05/23/2009 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well c'mon ac685615, educate us then ..waddya say....is Schrodinger's cat dead or alive??? “"The time has come," the walrus said, "to talk of many things: Of shoes and ships - and sealing wax - of cabbages and kings”................. and who knows what the bleep we will find for answers eh? Last Edited by Thoughts Faux Fodder on 05/23/2009 09:39 AM Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
Thoughts Faux Fodder User ID: 684049 United States 05/23/2009 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gregg Braden's New book Fractal Time gives you a formula. Quoting: Astrid 685618Check it out thanks! i will look for it ;-) Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 685595 Brazil 05/23/2009 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gregg Braden's New book Fractal Time gives you a formula. Quoting: Astrid 685618Check it out Tim Palmer puts "fractals" as some kind of non classical set of "hidden variables" to regain determinism in the fundamental Physics in general, although Quantum Theory remains probabilistic. Maybe Gregg Braden is intuitively doing something similar starting from a more generic point of view. I believe there is something else beyond "fractality" that must be considered, some sort of limit or constraint associated with fractals. ............................................................ |
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Qualia User ID: 685610 United States 05/23/2009 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe there is something else beyond "fractality" that must be considered, some sort of limit or constraint associated with fractals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 685595............................................................ Yes, like: 1) Fractality has something along the lines of tunnel vision. 2) Designating fractality as a definitive answer is like dissecting a whole body, finding one particular function of that wholeness, and describing the remainder exclusively by that one function. It's an incomplete study. If you spin in your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense. |