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Sounds like a punk band "the mutilaters"
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"The most startingly testimony came from a retired Dulce police officer named Gabe Julian. Julian explained how on one evening in the early 1980s he was dispatched to the house of a woman who claimed that small people with strange boxes emitting light were harrassing her. Initially skeptical of what his radio dispatcher told him, he drove over to the area and saw several UFOs taking off."


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any one live near this place ?
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any one been near this place ?
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1950 = Project BLUE BIRD (”BLUE” means “alien” related) * CIA/NSA….. “Scientific INTELLIGENCE UNIT” excels. ( “UNIT” has “CELLS”)

Later this group loses power, because they have TOO intellectual an approach. They didn’t like working on Human subjects. However later, the Agency’s Office of Technical Services Staff (TSS) had no such qualms. [The "Gadget" makers.]
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These technologically advanced weapons are going to be revealed when the aliens take over in the very near future. The technology is exclusively alien and, as such, belongs to the aliens.

The aliens don't want humans to know about them or their hardware (yet), but are content to let them use their own 'primitive' weapons against eachother in wars - wars the aliens engineer through their hybrid illuminati operatives.


That's funny. You ASSume that there is only one type of "alien" around and that they are all bad. The "good" ETs would welcome these technologies come out into the light of day, not for use, but to prove that the government(s) have been lying, hiding, and turning most of humanity into debt slaves to create all of this technology and NWO infrastructure. Thus we might actually pull our heads out of the sand, unfurl our nuticles, and deal with the problems.

You also ASSume that these weapons have never been used, yet credible people have told of them being used in 9/11, in Iraq, in recent volcanic activity and most of the 3D "UFOs" people see these days are man-made. I was just watching a "UFO" video from Crotia and it was actually one of the US TR3B "UFOs".
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Hey dudeski, I'm not arguing with you about alien types and whether or not secret weapons are being used in Iraq et al; I wasn't in Iraq during the war, so I wouldn't know. Maybe the credible sources you cite are correct, I'm just saying that the Draco/malevolent ET's, along with their servants (global elitists), tend to horde these technologies for themselves.

As I understand it, from what I've read from numerous sources, the good guys (God and his angels) are observing this planet, but won't intervene because it will interfere with our spiritual evolution. If they came in and rid the planet of the bad guy ET's then what lesson would we have learned? We wouldn't have learned the consequences of giving our power away to a ruthless predator, a we have ben doing for thousands of years.

It's our duty, and our duty alone, to take our power back.
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These technologically advanced weapons are going to be revealed when the aliens take over in the very near future. The technology is exclusively alien and, as such, belongs to the aliens.

The aliens don't want humans to know about them or their hardware (yet), but are content to let them use their own 'primitive' weapons against eachother in wars - wars the aliens engineer through their hybrid illuminati operatives.


That's funny. You ASSume that there is only one type of "alien" around and that they are all bad. The "good" ETs would welcome these technologies come out into the light of day, not for use, but to prove that the government(s) have been lying, hiding, and turning most of humanity into debt slaves to create all of this technology and NWO infrastructure. Thus we might actually pull our heads out of the sand, unfurl our nuticles, and deal with the problems.

You also ASSume that these weapons have never been used, yet credible people have told of them being used in 9/11, in Iraq, in recent volcanic activity and most of the 3D "UFOs" people see these days are man-made. I was just watching a "UFO" video from Crotia and it was actually one of the US TR3B "UFOs".


Hey dudeski, I'm not arguing with you about alien types and whether or not secret weapons are being used in Iraq et al; I wasn't in Iraq during the war, so I wouldn't know. Maybe the credible sources you cite are correct, I'm just saying that the Draco/malevolent ET's, along with their servants (global elitists), tend to horde these technologies for themselves.

As I understand it, from what I've read from numerous sources, the good guys (God and his angels) are observing this planet, but won't intervene because it will interfere with our spiritual evolution. If they came in and rid the planet of the bad guy ET's then what lesson would we have learned? We wouldn't have learned the consequences of giving our power away to a ruthless predator, a we have ben doing for thousands of years.

It's our duty, and our duty alone, to take our power back.
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"As I understand it, from what I've read from numerous sources, the good guys (God and his angels) are observing this planet, but won't intervene because it will interfere with our spiritual evolution. If they came in and rid the planet of the bad guy ET's then what lesson would we have learned? "

Interesting

A master told me a while ago "the God now wants maximum free will at this time"

In the End will be the good the Prophets described. The Evil will be defeated, whichever realm it is from
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"The most startingly testimony came from a retired Dulce police officer named Gabe Julian. Julian explained how on one evening in the early 1980s he was dispatched to the house of a woman who claimed that small people with strange boxes emitting light were harrassing her. Initially skeptical of what his radio dispatcher told him, he drove over to the area and saw several UFOs taking off."


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There is some weird stuff underground
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[after a female student answered correctly why America pulled out of Vietnam]
Professor Terguson: Is she right? 'Cause I know that's the *popular* version of what went on there. And a lot of people like to believe that. I wish I could, but I was *there*. I wasn't here in a class room, hoping I was right, thinking about it.
[shouting]
Professor Terguson: I was up to my knees in rice paddies, with guns that didn't work! Going in there, looking for Charlie, slugging it out with him; While
[shouts]
Professor Terguson: pussies like you were back here partying, putting headbands on, doing drugs, and
[shouts]
Professor Terguson: listening to the goddamn Beatle albums! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Thornton Melon: Hey Professor, take it easy. These kids were in grade school at the time, and as for me... I'm not a fighter, I'm a lover.
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The aliens should be nice when mutilating a poor farmers cattle and fill the cow back up with candy.
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Maybe they are filling the cows up with something.

The cattle mutilations could be the American government recovering some monstrosity, after using the cows as an womb.

The damage to the cow might be extensive after a cow version of a c section, at the very least it would leave a scar, leading to questions and even cause for suspisicion of the base. So if the cow gets "mutilated"; the farmer is believed to be one of those whack jobs that believes in them UFOs with little green martian critters in them.

No one would ever X-ray a cow to see what it was carrying, the cost would be too prohibitive to a farmer. He'd think the cow was pregnant, he might not know why or he would probably think someone left a fence open.


Some of these critters might be too large for a "missing" person to carry to term.

So even though the American government might want to use a person to get better feedback on the status of the critter, a human surogate might not be the most cost effective or desirable option, due to size and weight related possible complications.

A cow would complain a lot less too!
Holy cow! It's the woowoo patrol!
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"The most startingly testimony came from a retired Dulce police officer named Gabe Julian. Julian explained how on one evening in the early 1980s he was dispatched to the house of a woman who claimed that small people with strange boxes emitting light were harrassing her. Initially skeptical of what his radio dispatcher told him, he drove over to the area and saw several UFOs taking off."


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There is some weird stuff underground
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AND THEN THERE IS THIS PLACE !
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Other Mysterious Deaths...
Lest We Forget
By Prof. G. Cope Schellhorn
First Published 1997 By UFO Universe Magazine
2-6-5


Death by gunshot to the head. Death by probable poisoning. Death by probable strangulation. Deaths possibly by implantation of deadly viruses. No one lives former. Yet the recent suspicious deaths of UFO investigators Phil Schneider, Ron Johnson, Con Routine, Ann Livingston and Karln Turner, as well as the deaths of a host of researchers in the past, only seem to add emphasis to a reality with which many of the more aware UFOIogists are now quite familiar: not only is UFO research potentially dangerous, but the life span of the average serious investigator falls far short of the national average.
Mysterious and suspicious deaths among UFO investigators arc nothing new. In 1971, the well-known author and researcher Otto Binder wrote an article for Saga magazine's Special UFO Report titled "Liquidation of the UFO Investigators:' Binder had researched the deaths of "no less than 137 flying saucer researchers, writers, scientists, and witnesses' who had died in the previous 10 years, "many under the most mysterious circumstances."
The selected cases Binder offered were loaded with a plethora of alleged heart attacks, suspicious cancers and what appears to be outright examples of murder. We will have occasion to refer to many of these cases, but first let us take a look at more recent evidence of highly suspect deaths among present day researchers.
Phil Schneider
No one has shook up more those who have been following UFO fact and rumor the past low years than Phil Schneider. Schneider died Januarv 17, 1996, reportedly strangled by a catheter found wrapped around his neck. If the circumstances of his death seem highly controversial, thev are matched by the controversy over his public statements uttered recently before his death.
Phil Schneider was a self-taught geologist and explosive expert. Of the 129 deep underground facilities Schneider believed the U.S. government had constructed since World War II, he claimed to have worked on 13. Two of these bases were major, including the much rumored bioengineering facility at Dulce, N.M. At Dulce. Schneider maintained, "grey" - humanoid extraterrestrials worked side by side with American technicians. In 1979, a misunderstanding arose. In the ensuing shootout, 66 Secret Service, FBI and Black Berets were killed along with an unspecified nurnber of "greys. It was here he received a beam-weapon blast to the chest which caused his later cancer.
(Note from Metatech.org editor Stephanie Relfe: I have seen the scar from this weapon on one of Phil's videos. Contact Al Bielek, PO Box 50045 Fort Myers FL 33994 if you wish to purchase Phil Schneider videos).
If Schneider is telling the truth, he obviously broke the code of imposed silence to which all major black-budget personnel are subjected. The penalty for that misstep is presumably termination. Schneider in fact maintained that numerous previous attempts had been made on his life, including the removal of lug nuts from one of the front wheels of his automobile. He had stated publicly he was a marked man and did not expect to live long.
Some of Schneider's more major accusations are worthy of attention:
(1) The American government concluded a treaty with "grey" aliens in 1954. This mutual cooperation pack is called the Grenada Treaty.
(2) The space shuttle has been shuttling in special metals. A vacuum atmosphere is needed for the rending of these special alloys, thus the push for a large space station.
(3) Much of our stealth aircraft technology was developed by back-engineering crashed ET craft.
(4) AIDS was a population control virus invented by the National Ordinance Laboratory, Chicago, Illionois.
(5) Unbeknownst to just about everyone, our government has an earthquake device: The Kobe quake had no pulse wave; the 1989 San Francisco quake had no pulse wave.
(6) The World Trade Center bomb blast and the Oklahoma City blast were achieved using small nuclear devices. The melting and pitting of the concrete and the extrusion of metal supporting rods indicated this.
(Remember, Schneider's forte, he claimed, was explosives.)
Finally, Phil Schneider lamented that the democracy he loved no longer existed. We had become instead a technocracy ruled by a shadow government intent on imposing their own view of things on all of us, whether we like it or not. He believed I l of his best friends had been murdered in the last 22 years, eight of whom had been officially disposed of as suicides.
Whatever we think of Phil Schneider's claims, there is no denying that he was of peculiar interest to the FBI and CIA. According to his widow, intelligence agents thoroughly searched the premises shortly after his death and made off with at least a third of the family photographs.
Ron Rummel
Another recent disturbing case is the death of Ron Rummel, ex-air force intelligence agent and publisher of the Alien Digest, on August 6, 1993. Rummel allegedly shot himself in the mouth with a pistol. Friends say, however, that no blood was found on the pistol barrel and the handle of the weapon was free of fingerprints. Also, according to information now circulating, the suicide note left by the deceased was written by a left-handed person. Rummel was right-handed. Perspiration on the body smelled like sodium pentothal, or so it is alleged.
The Alien Digest ran to seven limited issues, all now almost impossible to acquire. One thing is certain. Ron Rummel's magazine was touching on sensitive issues such as the predator/prey aspect of the alien/human relationship and the use of humans as food and recyclable body parts. Did Rummel cross a forbidden line? It would seem so. But which line, and where? Interestingly enough, one of Rummel's friends was Phil Schneider, and the two had been collaborating.
Ron Johnson
An equally disturbing and more recent death is that of Ron (Jerrold) Johnson, at the time MUFON's Deputy Director of Investigations. Johnson was 43 years old and, it would seem, in excellent health. He had just passed a recent physical examination with the proverbial flying colors. However, on June 9, 1994, while attending a Society of Scientific Exploration meeting in Austin, Texas, Johnson died quickly and amid very strange circumstances. During a slide show, several people sitting close to him heard a gasp. When the lights were turned back on, Johnson was slumped over in his chair, his face purple, blood oozing from his nose. A soda can, from which he had been sipping, was sitting on the chair next to him.
Did Ron Johnson die of a stroke? Possibly. An allergic reaction? Another possibility.
Some of the more outstanding facts of Ron Johnson's life might easily lead a more skeptical-minded person to a tentative conclusion that his death was probably neither accidental nor natural. For instance, his most recent job was with the Institute of Advanced Studies, purportedly working on UFO propulsion systems. He had been formerly employed by Earth Tech, Inc., a private Austin, Texas, think tank headed by Harold Puthoff. It would appear he held high security clearances, traveled frequently between San Antonio and White Sands, and had attended 2 secret NATO meetings in the last year or so. One of those meetings, it is rumored dealt with ET communications. Although advanced in years, there are some who believe that Dr. Hynek's death was because of "strange circumstances," due to the high number of researchers who have died of brain tumors or cancer. If all or most of the facts offered above are accurate, one thing seems obvious: Johnson was walking both sides of the street. This in itself was highly dangerous, and he may have paid the ultimate price in an attempt to serve more than one master.
As for exactly what killed Ron Johnson, a number of possibilities beyond natural ones present themselves. It is quite easy in this day and age to induce strokes through chemicals or pulsed radiation. It is just as easy, and has been for some time, to induce heart attacks and other physical debilitations, such as fast-acting cancers. The best bet is that Ron Johnson was eliminated by a quick-acting toxin, perhaps a nerve agent. As for exactly why he was killed, we will probably never know. The autopsy, somewhat ludicrously, has been officially classified as inconclusive.
Ann Livingston
As a side note, a nurse returning home from Austin shortly after Johnson's death reported a similar death-situation aboard her plane. When she tried to move rearward to offer her assistance, she was forcefully restrained from doing so. Could it be, one wonders, that some agent, through an accident, was the victim of his own machinations? The idea strikes a nice note of poetic justice, if in fact that were the scenario.
Another death involving elements of high strangeness is that of Ann Livingston, who died in early 1994 of a fast-form of ovarian cancer. Livingston made her living as an accountant, but she was also a MUFON investigator and had in fact, published an article entitled "Electronic Harassment and Alien Abductions" in the November 1993 MUFON Journal. The article was highly critical of Julianne McKinney, directorof the Electronic Surveillance Project of the Association of National Security Alumni. McKinney discounts U FO phenomena, believing that what passes for such is most often one kind of governmental ploy or another, whether in the form of experimental machinery or experimental psychology.
Some facts which seem relevant to the case stand out. At 7:15 AM, December 29th 1992, Livingston's apartment close to O'Hare airport, in Chicago, Illinois, was lit up brightly by a silverwhite flash. She was accosted later in the day while in her apartment parking lot by 5 MIBs (Men in Black) which she described as being almost faceless and carrying long, flashlight-like black objects. She was rendered unconscious. What, we must ask, assuming her story is true, was done to her at this time, and wh'? And did it have anything to do with her later rapidly-advancing ovarian cancer?
It is not a well-known fact that Ann Livingston had been previously abducted. Her friend, Fran Heiser, has stated that Ann Livingston had met two handsome people, a man and woman, on an earlier trip to Mexico. To Livingston's surprise, the man told her that the attractive young lady she was meeting was in fact her daughter.
Karla Turner
Could genital intrusions from past UFO abductions have poisoned in some way Ann Livingston's system? That is exactly the suspicion Karla Turner (author of Maquerade of Angels, Taken, and Into the Fringe) had about the breast cancer that preceded her death during the summer of 1996. Both publicly and privately, Karla Turner held up the specter of alien retaliation for statements she made in print, especially in Masquerade of Angels. How much her suspicions were founded in reality we will probably never know. (A good site on Karla Turner is [link to www.geocities.com]
Who or what is killing UFO investigators now and in the past? Probably some of the deaths presented here-that look at first glance so suspicious---are in fact natural or accidental or self-inflicted because of stress or mental imbalances. But, as Otto Binder noted more than 25 years ago, there are so many. Pure common sense, and good logic, should lead us to believe that the high incidence of premature death in a field which has a limited number of investigators is very disproportionate compared to the population at large.
Spider Web of Causes
What we may have IS a concatenation, a spider web, of interweaving threads which are causal and often, in fact, deadly. One thread is the activities of the US (and other) intelligence agencies. Another thread is possible ET involvement. A third thread is the involvement of certain PSI-tech think tanks and private PSI/PK practitioners, including negative occultists. A possible fourth thread is highly reactionary religious cults which feel they are carrying out the will of God. It is more than likely that one or more or all of the above agencies are responsible in whole or in part for many of the deaths from the recent past, which have already been mentioned and many of those remaining cases from the present to the more distant past, some of which we will now explore.
Danny Casolaro
Danny Casolaro, an investigative reporter looking into the theft of Project Promise software, a program capable of tracking down anyone anywhere in the world, died in 1991, a reported suicide.
Casolaro was also investigating several UFO "NO-Nos" Pine Gap, Area 51 and governmental bioengineering.
Mae Bussell
Not long ago, Mae Bussell, a gutsy, no-holds-barred, investigative radio host died of a fast-acting cancer just like Ann Livingston and Karla Turner. Bussell was acutely interested in UFOlogy.
The directors of APRO, Coral and Jim Lorenzen, a Tucson-based UFO group, both died of Cancer. Deck Slayton
Deke Slayton, the astronaut, was purportedly ready to talk about his UFO experiences, but cancer also intervened.
Brian Lynch
Brian Lynch, young psychic and contactee, died in 1985, purportedly of a drug overdose. According to Lynch's sister, Geraldine, Brian was approached approximately a year before his death by an intelligence operative working for an Austin, Texas, PSI-tech company. Geraldine said they told Brian they were experimenting on psychic warfare techniques. After his death, a note in his personal effects was found with the words "Five million from Pentagon for Project Scanate."
Capt. Don Elkin
In the '80s Eastern Airlines pilot Capt. Don Elkin committed suicide. He had been investigating the UFO coverup for over 10 years and, at the time, was deep into the study of the Ra material with ('aria Rucker. There are reports of negative psychological interferences having developed during this latter investigation.
Bizarre Death of Scientists
Certainly nothing is stranger, and breeds speculation more quickly, than the 30-some-odd deaths associated with SDI (Star Wars) research at Marconi Ltd. in England between approximately 1985-1988. Here in capsulated form is a list of a few of the more bizarre deaths:
Roger Hill, a designer at Marconi Defense Systems, allegedly commits suicide with a shotgun, March 1985.
Jonathan Walsh, a digital communications expert employed by GEC, Marconi's parent firm, falls from his hotel room, November 1985, after expressing fear for his life.
Ashad Sharif, another Marconi scientist, reportedly tied a rope around his neck, and then to a tree, in October 1986, got behind the wheel of his car and stepped on the gas with predictable results.
In March of 1988, Trevor Knight, also associated with Marconi, died of carbon monoxide poisoning in his car.
Peter Ferry, marketing director of the firm, was found shocked to death with electrical leads in his mouth (August 1988).
Also during the same month of the same year, Alistair Beckham was found shocked to death with electric leads attached to his body and his mouth stuffed with a handkerchief. He was an engineer with the allied firm of Plessey Defense Systems.
And, finally, but by no means the sole remaining death in this unique cluster, Andrew Hall was found dead in September of 1988 of carbon monoxide poisoning.
What, you may be asking, does SDI research have to do with the deaths of UFO investigators? Theoretically, quite a lot. If, as many investigators have hypothesized, Star Wars research was initiated with the dual purpose of protecting "us" against Soviet aggression and/or the presence of UFO craft in our atmosphere, then several possibilities arise. Most compelling is the idea that the soviet KGB, realizing that the Western powers were on the verge of perfecting a high-powered beam-weapon that could be used from outer space or atmospheric space against them, marshaled a last-gasp, all-out espionage offensive to slow or destroy the project. If this scenario is true, and the weapon was indeed successfully developed, we have an explanation for the collapse of the Soviet Union ("Surrender or you might be incinerated").
Other explanations have been offered. For example, scientists working on the project discovered the true nature of the research they were involved with and the overwhelming stress led them to suicide. Or they discovered that their real collaborators were "greys," or Western politicians working with/for grey aliens. One thing seems obvious. Something went terribly wrong at Marconi. Scientists usually don't commit the kinds of bizarre, "unscientific" suicides we find here.
One other possibility is that a contingent of unfriendly ETs got wind of what GEC and Marconi and its affiliates were up to and, to protect themselves, created enough psychic trauma within the minds of many of the scientists to drive them to suicide. But if this is so, why have the deaths stopped? Has the project been shelved? Highly unlikely. The best bet is that the project was completed, roughly about 1988, and whatever it is, beam-weapon or otherwise, it is now operational.
Certainly neither the public at large, and not even UFOlogists generally, seem thoroughly aware of the real risks UFO investigators run. In fact those UFOlogists who are aware of the suspicious deaths of some of their colleagues in the 50s and 60s, seem to believe that whatever forces and agencies that were then responsible have softened their tactics in the `80s and `90s. The evidence, as we have indicated, does not seem to support such a conclusion. There is no doubt, however, that the `50s and `60s produced some strange goings-on.
Jessup and McDonald
Undoubtedly the most intriguing (and perhaps appalling) deaths in UFOlogy were those of Dorothy Kilgallen, M.K. Jessup and Dr. James McDonald - the former an alleged accident, the latter two purported suicides. The details of these deaths, despite official pronouncements to the contrary, are disturbing to say the least. Each of the three individuals seemed to have much to live for, all were successful, and everyone of them was deeply immersed in the relatively new UFO-phenomena proglem.
Dorothy Kilgallen
Dorothy Kilgallen was the most famous syndicated woman journalist of her day. Stationed in England in 1954 - 55, and privy to the highest levels of English society and its secrets, she wired two unusual dispatches which may have contributed to her death. The first, sent in February 1954, mentioned a "special hush-hush meeting of the world's military heads" scheduled to take place the following summer. The 1955 dispatch, which barely preceded her death from an alleged overdose of sleeping pills and alcohol (a la Marilyn Monroe), quoted an unnamed British official of cabinet rank, `We believe, on the basis of our inquiry thus far, that saucers were staffed by small men-probably under four feet tall. It's frightening, but there is no denying the flying saucers come from another planet.'
Whatever the source (rumored to be the Earl of Mountbatten), this kind of leak in the atmosphere of the mid- 50s was an unacceptable leak. It is well to recall that the secret CIA-orchestrated Robertson Panel had met in 1953 and issued the Robertson Report. Briefly summarized, this document-and the attitudes reflected there - represented a new hard-line attitude to covering up all significant UFO phenomena. The year 1953 and the meeting of the Robertson Panel truly initiated the UFO coverup as we know it today, with a few extra dollops having been added.
Did Dorothy Kilgallen actually commit accidental suicide? There appears to be an excellent chance she had help.
Dr. James McDonald, senior physicist, Institute of Atmospheric Physics and also professor in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Arizona, died in 1971 purportedly of a gunshot wound to the head. There is no one who had worked harder in the 60s than McDonald to convince Congress to hold serious, substantial subcommittee meetings to explore the UFO reality of which he was thoroughly convinced. He was definitely a thorn in the side of those who maintained the official coverup and, needless to say, his passing to them would be a blessing.
McDonald, allegedly depressed, shot himself in the head. But, alas, he didn't die. He was wheelchair-ridden but somehow, several months after his first attempt, he allegedly got in an automobile, drove to a pawnshop, purchased another pistol from his wheelchair, drove to the desert and did himself in. How convenient, one might say, for his adversaries. And McDonald, there can be no doubt, had made enemies. The question is: How much did these enemies aid and abet the demise of this most worthy and influential campaigner?
Astronomer MIL Jessup
When astronomer and archaeologist M. K. Jessup allegedly committed suicide in Dade County Park, FL., in 1959 certain alarm bells should have gone off. There is no doubt the well-known author of such influential works as The Case for the UFO and The Expanding Case for the UFO had been depressed. Things had not been going well for him, and he had, it must be admitted, indicated his gloom to close friends, Ivan Sanderson, the biologist, and Long John Nebel, the well-known New York City radio host. Sanderson reported him disturbed by "a series of strange events" which put him "into a completely insane world of unreality."
Was the reality Jessup was faced with at the time "completely insane" or were there, perhaps, forces driving Jessup to the edge, forces with a plan? Anna Genzlinger thoroughly investigated his death. Her conclusion: "He was under some sort of control." Remember, these were the days of secret governmental mind-control experiments which have only recently been uncovered.
Certain facts about the case raise redflags. For example, no autopsy was performed, contrary to the state law. Sergeant Obenclain, who was on the scene shortly after Jessup's body was discovered, has said for the record, "Everything seemed too professional." The hose from the car exhaust was wired on; and it was, strangely, washing machine hose. Jessup died at rush hour, with more than the usual amount of traffic passing by. He had been visited by Carlos Allende three days before his death and according to his wife, had been receiving strange phone calls. We know the navy was very much interested in what he was doing; and we all know, or should know, it is the ONI (Office of Naval Investigations) that has been in the forefront, from the very beginning, of the UFO coverup.
And what of particular interest was Jessup investigating at the time? Something that was top secret and would remain so for some time: the Philadelphia Experiment. Dr. James McDonald tried to convince Congress to look into the UFO situation. He died after shooting himself a short while later.The late astronomer Dr. M.K. Jessup was the first to reveal details of the Philadelphia Experiment-he died a few months later. Frank Edwards
Frank Edwards, the noted news commentator, died of an alleged heart attack on June 24, 1967, on the 20th anniversary of the Kenneth Arnold sighting. Was that coincidence?
Probably not. Several other prominent UFOlogists died the same day, Arthur Bryant, the contactee, Richard Church, chairman of CIGIUFO and the space writer, Willie Ley. The circumstances surrounding the death of Edwards, who like James McDonald was pushing for meaningful Congressional subcommittee meetings, raise huge questions. It so happens that a "World UFO Conference" was being held in New York City at the Commodore hotel on that very day in June, chaired by UFO publisher and author Gray Barker. Barker stated publicly that he had received two letters and a telephone call threatening that Frank Edwards, who was not in attendance, would not be alive by the conference's end.
It definitely looks like someone was sending a message. As an unhappy sequel to this account, Rep. Rouse, who had been supporting Edwards in his campaign for Congressional attention to the UFO issue, died of a similar heart attack shortly afterwards.
The annals of UFOlogy are frighteningly filled with the deaths of UFOlogists from unusual cancers, heart attacks, questionable suicides and all manner of strange happenings. Did former Secretary of Defense James Forrestal really commit suicide as purported by jumping out a hotel window at about the time saucers may have been crashing down in the southwestern desert? Was UFO writer Damon Runyon, Jr.'s suicidal plunge off a Washington D.C. bridge in 1988 really an act of will? What really happened to Dr. B. Noel Opan who, in 1959, after an alleged visit by MIBs, disappeared, as did Edgar Jarrold, the Australian UFOlogist, in 1960.
How do we explain the rash of heart attacks that took so many: Frank Edwards, Rep. Rouse, author H. T. Wilkins, Henry E Kock, publicity director of the Universal Research Society of America, author Frank Scully and contactee George Adamski? How do we correlate accurately the large number of purported suicides, including: Rev. Della Larson, contactee, author Gloria Lee (Byrd), Marie Ford, UFO enthusiast who discovered Larson's body, researcher Doug Hancock, and, more recently, researcher Feron Hicks? What do we do with the inordinately large number of cancer deaths which pepper the UFO field and burn doubtful holes in our credulity: Canadian researcher Wilbert B. Smith, Brazilian researcher Dr. Olavo Fontes, Jim and Coral Lorenzen (photos are earlier in this article), and the deaths of biologist Ivan Sanderson and CUFOS founder James A. Hynek (photo at the start of this article) (both from rare brain cancer)?
Certainly not all of these individuals, as well as many other less prominent researchers that space limitations do not allow us to mention, were marked for termination. Many, perhaps most, died natural deaths. But so many of the cases leave doubt; some seem to be branded by the mark of Cain. We know now how easy it is to induce strokes and heart attacks through chemicals, pulsed beams and microbes. We have learned that the federal government was (and still is) involved in PSI-tech research. An individual's mind is rather easily manipulated, and minds can be subtly beaten like putty into despair and madness.
The late Ivan T. Sanderson passed away unexpectedly. He was head of a major UFO/paranormal group! UFOlogy is not the safe, hobbyistic pastime some would like it to be. There is danger, real danger in sticking your nose in places where the powers that be don't want you to be. Many of the deaths related above are highly suspicious. Some appear to be outright murder.
What is the cause, who the villain? Again, it must be emphasized that the "problem" is complex. Rogue intelligence agencies, negative ET groups, freelancing PSI-tech firms, and reactionary cultist groups all seem to play, or to have played, a part in the more nefarious UFO-related events described here including the possible homicides of UFO researchers in past decades as well as more recently. It seems highly likely that sometimes one or more of these agencies may be working together, either with or without the knowledge of the other's presence.
What can we do about such a state of affairs? Several things. We can inform ourselves like good democratic citizens. And we can inform others. We can and must raise a hue and cry when we suspect foul play. If we are to protect our very lives and the democratic hopes we say we cherish, then we must not go, silent and ignorant, into the night, pretending an innocence we have not earned.
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By Stephanie Relfe:
Since the above article was written there have been other notable deaths in the field, including:
William Cooper Author of the classic book: "Behold a Pale Horse"
www.HalTurnerShow.com 8 - 9 PM EST Monday Nights on WBCQ 7.415 MHz & 9-11 PM Tue. - Fri. on the Net SHOT DEAD! WBCQ SHORT-WAVE RADIO TALK SHOW HOST WILLIAM "BILL" COOPER Eager, AZ -- Short-wave radio talk show host William "Bill" Cooper was shot dead last night during a gun battle with Sheriff's Deputies. According to Detective Frank Valenzuela of the Arizona Department of Public Safety, the shooting took place at 11:40 PM outside of Cooper's home at 96 North Clearview Circle, Eager, AZ.
Det. Valenzuela stated that Deputies from the Apache County Sheriff's Department were attempting to serve an arrest warrant upon Mr. Cooper. The Warrant, issued by the Round Valley Judicial Precinct in Springerville, AZ charged Cooper with one Count of Aggravated Assault With A Deadly Weapon, and two Counts of "Endangerment." The Warrant was issued on August 29, 2001 for an incident which allegedly took place on July 11, 2001. The Court Case Number on the Warrant is CR-01-0310. Neither Valenzuela, nor the Apache County Attorney's Office would reveal the name of the alleged victim(s). They did say the complaint was signed by Detective Paul Kirkum of the Eager, AZ Sheriff's Dept.
According to Valenzuela, Police had intelligence that Cooper had a large quantity of weapons in his home, and possibly explosives. Valenzuela also said the police knew that during his radio show on WBCQ, Cooper repeatedly stated that he "would kill any law enforcement officers that tried to take him." As such, the Sheriff's Department wanted to arrest Cooper away from his home, so as to minimize the possibility of armed conflict.
According to Police, Cooper lived on a hilltop over looking several undeveloped areas and other homes below. Despite not owning the land below his home, Cooper was known to chase teenagers or young lovers off the land and Police decided to use this to lure Cooper away from his home. Det. Valenzuela stated that two undercover Sheriff's Deputies were sent in a pick-up truck to the area below Cooper's home. There were also two uniformed Deputies in the bed of the pick-up. As expected, Cooper drove down to that area from his home and told the two undercover Deputies to leave.
But Cooper left and drove away toward his home before the undercover deputies could do anything. While on his way back up the hill, a fully marked Sheriff's patrol vehicle blocked the road(1) in front of Cooper. Uniformed members of the Sheriff's Department SWAT Team (2) exited that marked vehicle and told Cooper to stop, keep his hands where they could see them and exit the vehicle. They say Cooper placed one hand outside his window, then accelerated around the police car, trying to run over a Sheriff Sergeant. Police gave brief chase to Cooper's home.
Police say Cooper exited his vehicle, drew a handgun and began firing at Deputies as he ran toward his house. One Deputy Sheriff was struck at least once and possibly twice in the head.(3) Another Deputy returned fire, hitting Cooper several times.
The wounded Deputy was evacuated by Helicopter to a hospital in Phoenix. Cooper was pronounced dead at the scene by Paramedics who were at the scene standing-by (4).
The following questions arise from this incident:
(1) Cooper would have had to pass the marked Police patrol Vehicle while going down the hill. Why would he do so without seeing it and fleeing? Further, how could he drive around it once it came onto the road while Cooper was enroute back to his home?
(2) If Police intended a peaceful, non-violent arrest, why send a SWAT Team?
(3) If Cooper drew a gun and fired "while running back toward his home" as police say, how could he hit a Deputy once and possibly twice in the head? A head-shot is a difficult thing to accomplish with a hand gun, never mind two head shots while the shooter is running!
(4) Why were Paramedics "on the scene standing-by" if Sheriffs intended this to be a peaceful arrest?
These questions make The Hal Turner Show wonder if Bill Cooper was set-up (Editor's note: & mind controlled?) to be gunned down, or just a victim of his own big mouth and prudent police planning? We pray for the soul of Mr. Cooper, and for the life of the Deputy shot in the head.
Stanley Kubrick
While not a UFO researcher, I feel that Stanley Kubrick deserves a mention here. I believe that Stanley Kubrick, who died shortly after the release of his movie "Eyes wide shut" was killed by advanced technology. I believe that his earlier movie "2001 a space odyssey" indicated that he was in alignment with the secret powers that be. For example, it showed "The Black Block" which is worshipped by masonry and is in the headquarters of the United Nations in New York.
However, people change. He didn't produce a movie for twenty years before he produced "Eyes wide shut". This movie was kept in super secrecy until it came out. Even reviewers did not see it until the day it was released. Most people did not know what to make of it. They didn't recognize it for what I believe it was, namely a documentary, of the kind of religious rituals that the powers that be are involved in. In the movie Tom Cruise is told towards the end something like "If you knew who those people were, you wouldn't sleep at night". I believe that Kubrick towards the end turned towards the good side, and wanted to get information out to the people. I believe that Kubrick was killed by advanced technology by people who he was once aligned with.
OR, was Kubrick's death more closely related to 9-11 and the World Trade Center. This farout-idea is supported by an article at [link to geocities.com]
While on the subject of "Eyes Wide Shut" I have wondered if Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were also punished for acting in this movie, by breaking up their marriage. After all, the movie would have been nowhere near as famous if they hadn't acted in it. The secret government has technology they can beam at people to help break up marriages. I am not alone in this thought. I have read elsewhere on the net: I'm sure most readers will also be aware that it was the film which many considered one catalyst for Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman's marriage break-up.
For more about "Eyes wide shut" see [link to www.ellisctaylor.com]
Dean Stonier
Dean was the organizer and promoter of the Global Sciences Congress, that over the years hosted many top researchers including Phil Schneider and Al Bielek, the sole survivor of the Philadelphia Experiment. Dean died of a heart attack in August 2001, just a few months after a Denver Global Sciences Congress.
Jim Keith
Jim Keith died in 1999. Author of many books including Mind Control, World Control. Jim died in hospital during surgery to repair a broken leg he achieved while attending the infamous Burning Man Festival in Nevada. It seems a blood clot was released during the surgery and travelled to the heart causing a pulmonary edema.
Ron Bonds
Ron Bonds sold conspiracies. The Atlantan published books on unsolved mysteries and unexplained phenomena, from the Kennedy assassination to the ominous black helicopters of the New World Order. In the subculture of the paranormal, his reputation was such that writers for "The X-Files" used to call him for ideas.
In April 2001, fifteen hours after eating a meal with warm beef from a Mexican restaurant in Atlanta, after an agonizing evening of vomiting and diarrhea, Bonds was taken by ambulance from their home to Grady Memorial Hospital. During an autopsy, the medical examiner found copious amounts of blood in the bowels, so he sent a stool sample to the Georgia Public Health Laboratory in Decatur. The lab discovered high levels of Clostridium perfringens Type A, a bacterium often seen in small quantities in beef and poultry. When it occurs in larger quantities -- anything above 100,000 organisms per gram is considered unsafe -- it can release toxins that cause diarrhea, vomiting and, rarely, hemorrhaging. The bacterium figures in 250,000 cases of food poisoning a year, the CDC estimates, only seven of which result in death.
Four days after Bonds ate there, epidemiologists visited El Azteca to collect samples of ground beef from the steam table. When C. perfringens becomes dangerous, it usually has to do with cooked meat being held at too low a temperature. The lab found 6 million organisms per gram -- 60 times the safety threshold.
One obvious question is: Why didn't other people get sick too? More info here.
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Philip K. Dick. (this came to me from a reader): Science fiction author of Bladerunner and Minority Report. Had continuing contact for several years, then died of a stroke under somewhat mysterious circumstances on March 2 1982. He was writing a non-fiction book about his experiences with alien contact. It was never published, and the manuscript has disappeared.
Final Word from editor Stephanie Relfe: Since the field of UFO & secret government research seems to have a lot of danger attached to it, it is highly recommended that people involved in this do so only when they feel guided to do so by God and their intuition and higher self, NOT because it is exciting or profitable, or because "the world needs it". If you do what God wants you to do, I believe you will be given protection. Joan of Arc was given protection and success in the early stages when God was speaking to her. But later she continued on under her own steam, not noticing that God did not tell her to do more than he originally asked her to do, and she paid the price.
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Wow thanks for all that info

sounds like knowing to much can get one killed


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AND THEN THERE IS THIS PLACE !
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A Hopi Priest speaking to his granddaughter: (Many of his words spoken before he died have been shared at the site below)

Kakyakyauna Aliens
[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]

Grandfathers Final Message
[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]


Link to a free book download of an author sharing knowledge directly related:

[link to dancingawakethefifthworld.com]
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Dont let them take you alive
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Please release the discs, triangles & boomerangs (daylight, overhead in plain view) and tell the truth about -our species- stellar ancestral heritage & origins.

That's what we want, to know the truth about how our species came to be; and about the Vril/Thule Tech & ET Presence throughout history ...

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Aztec, NM = where the 'Foundation for omni-dimensional science & spirituality' is to be located.

[link to www.aztecufo.com]

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A few posts have it correct. The "secret" government has been secretly cloning humans, etc. at the underground base in Dulce, New Mexico. The cattle mutilations are done by the government. This is to scare all you "would be" cowboys with no balls. Hence, the fear of the anal probes. It's all very pathetic that you cowboys would be scared off by such bullsh*t. Yeah, even Larry Flynt said "More anal probes". He takes money from the government, too.

Dan Baruish is a government disinformation freak. He has even fooled the likes of Michael Salla. Hence the theory of the "good" vs. "bad" ET's. Sure, the ET's play "good cop/bad cop", but so do the police and mental health practioners to get someone to act less crazy. Developmentally, human beings have been dumbed down to a developmental age of "the terrible two's by the Rochefellers and Rothchild groups (ie, Illumanti/etc).

They will have their false flag attacks (E.T included), slaves (many cloned "humans"), microchiipped population, and purging of the masses if we continue to not look beyond the horrific "parenting" of the Nazi Rockefeller, Rothchild, Bilderbirger groups.

Educate yourselves, please,or get more of the same. In other words, please grow up and take responsibility for your thoughts, speech, feelings, and behavior.
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Nonetheless, we still want our ufo tech openly displayed overhead in plain view and a foundation for omni-dimensional science & spirituality - solution oriented open integration into infrastructure of our civilization and the truth to be told in regards to the presence throughout history .....

[link to ufoartwork.com]
[link to bibleufo.com]

I know there are those who are not from here, and so should each of us.

Have a nice eve, GLP

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DULCE, NEW MEXICO -- Close to 120 people showed up for the first "underground base" conference ever to be held in Dulce, New Mexico on Sunday, March 29.
The event made a rather tumultuous start at the Best Western Jicarilla Inn at 10 a.m.
By that time the entire bar lounge area began to be filled beyond capacity.
And by the time the first speaker (former Dulce ranch owner, Edmund Gomez) began his presentation, many people had to stand and wait in the adjacent restaurant area.
It was then that the Fire Department issued a warning saying that the conference must immediately be moved elsewhere.

Edmund Gomez, spokesman for the entire Gomez family who owned a large ranch in Dulce said that their ranch lost more than 17 cows during the height of cattle mutilations incidents and experienced substantial financial loss over the years. Gomez stated that gas masks were found near the mutilation sites and that specific cows were each tracked with phosphorescent markings a few days before the mutilations actually took place. His discovery and photo of the vent was the first concrete evidence that an underground base does exist at Dulce.



The most startingly testimony came from a retired Dulce police officer named Gabe Julian. Julian explained how on one evening in the early 1980s he was dispatched to the house of a woman who claimed that small people with strange boxes emitting light were harrassing her. Initially skeptical of what his radio dispatcher told him, he drove over to the area and saw several UFOs taking off. He explained how his training had left him unprepared for what he had seen and how he felt powerless to do anything. His emotional distress was evident to all who attended and did clearly demonstrate that UFO and extraterrestrial activities feature regularly in the small community of Dulce.


At the Dulce underground base :[liveleak]



Level 6 is privately called "Nightmare Hall." It holds the genetic labs, where experiments are done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original form. There are multi-armed and multi-legged humans and several cages (and vats) of humanoid bat-like creatures as tall as 7-feet. The aliens have taught the humans a lot about genetics; things both useful and dangerous.


WANT TO KNOW MORE :

[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]
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Why would the Dulce people put on an event the same weekend as the UFO Symposium in Aztec? The same people go to both. Are you sure the date is correct, that it really happened? Give us a link. (I mean a link to the event, not some blog)

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The conference in Aztec has been going on for years, there either was a crash there around the same time as the Roswell one; or it was an elaborate hoax by Frank Scully (Mulder & Scully anyone??!).

Either way, read about the 1950's event over Farmington, sounds like war of the worlds for real.

[link to www.aztecufo.com]

At what point did our technology cross over with theirs, and did it all originate out of Germany; was it due to Vedic studie regarding mercury engines & vimana or have our governments really been in cahoots with ET's ?

According to 'my sources' there is to be a foundation located in and around Aztec, NM - solutions oriented and above ground, with the purpose of openly integrating into our civilizations infrastructure these technological advances.

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This stuff should be able to be openly discussed, and researchers and those close to the truth need to stop being taken out.

Their very own media via 'UFO Hunters' during March featured this particular base.

UFO Hunters: Dulce Base Inside Archuleta Mesa
Thread: UFO Hunters: Dulce Base Inside Archuleta Mesa

How does this all fit in with the 'Triple Helix' and 'Yale' (Skull & Bones) research ...

Triple Strand DnA
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Here is the only article I could find with a quick query:

Dulce Base Symposium: Full Report
[link to www.theufochronicles.com]

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Well, buried underneath all the disinfo - misinfo & misdirection the truth most certainly exists - it's probably more mind blowing than most have allowed themself to conceive.

Don't forget the Branson's spaceport will be way down south also:

Spaceport America
[link to www.spaceportamerica.com]

Scaled Composits
[link to www.scaled.com]

I wonder how long before the cross-over between black projects into civilian-industrial occurs, hopefully soon.

buh bye NasA, hello IASEA (International Aeronautics & Space Exploration Association) ;)

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That space port America link is intersting. I have driven past the turn off a few times in the last couple of years. Never have time to take the turn and see what is going on there so far.
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They are cutting up cats and cows, whatever
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Dulce base was aired on History Channel last nigh.
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Dulce base was aired on History Channel last nigh.
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MUST NOT HAVE SAID TO MUCH

THEY WANT TO KEEP IT ALL "UNNDERGROUND"

FOR NOW
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Are there really cities underground

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