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GIRL RANTS ABOUT STEWART SWERDLOW -- CALLS HIM A FAT UGLY CONARTIST

 
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Hi ya'll,
I'm writing in from the other side of the big pond. Some of what I've read here was new (sort of) but didn't really 'surprise' me... I've had him tay at my house a few years ago. I organised a seminar with a few people on the continent. He didn't even understand the questions people asked of him (his 'language' skills" are non existent - no German, no French, no Russian, nada, zilch, only English..). He needed a translator coz he could neither hold his conference in any foreign language & he was stuttering & awfully bad mispronouncing any others. (I'm a genuine linguist - if you do not believe me, there's a person who mentioned a site here re "biggest secret" - that isn't German, it's Dutch, also, if you so choose, I could write the same comment here in Fr & German, nor is English my native tongue. Ok & on & upwards).

He spoiled our towels with his red hair dye, claimed he couldn't see while we were driving on the autobahn at night (so much for his "visual" exercises!) & was extremely ungracious in his account on his site of his stay at my place, trashing me. Worse than that, he 'planted' a wrong trauma into my head, & his 'scan' wasn't appropriate/correct either. He's vile, ugly, & he's gained weight (even though he claims to be a body builder! Urgh!). I knew him before he 'trusted' Icke (at the time he thought Icke wasn't "good enough").

Overall, I can but confirm what has been said about him here, I have met him personally, I had to put up with his cranky, miserable & foul mood because, I found out later, he kind of 'expected' me to put him up in a 5* hotel (of course, at my expense!).

So now you heard from someone who really knows him - how ugly, how rotten to the core he is, how full of himself, it's enough to make anybody want to throw up in his fat, ugly, dyed face! He's a sore loser, can't admit EVER to being wrong & those who tell him to his face are torn to pieces. He's sucker for his own d*** if only he could reach it!

Nuff said!
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lol

well people arent perfect
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bump and 5* 5a
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LOL poor $$ takin' another ol' hammerin' again.
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What was the sex like?
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Hi ya'll,
I'm writing in from the other side of the big pond. Some of what I've read here was new (sort of) but didn't really 'surprise' me... I've had him tay at my house a few years ago. I organised a seminar with a few people on the continent. He didn't even understand the questions people asked of him (his 'language' skills" are non existent - no German, no French, no Russian, nada, zilch, only English..). He needed a translator coz he could neither hold his conference in any foreign language & he was stuttering & awfully bad mispronouncing any others. (I'm a genuine linguist - if you do not believe me, there's a person who mentioned a site here re "biggest secret" - that isn't German, it's Dutch, also, if you so choose, I could write the same comment here in Fr & German, nor is English my native tongue. Ok & on & upwards).

He spoiled our towels with his red hair dye, claimed he couldn't see while we were driving on the autobahn at night (so much for his "visual" exercises!) & was extremely ungracious in his account on his site of his stay at my place, trashing me. Worse than that, he 'planted' a wrong trauma into my head, & his 'scan' wasn't appropriate/correct either. He's vile, ugly, & he's gained weight (even though he claims to be a body builder! Urgh!). I knew him before he 'trusted' Icke (at the time he thought Icke wasn't "good enough").

Overall, I can but confirm what has been said about him here, I have met him personally, I had to put up with his cranky, miserable & foul mood because, I found out later, he kind of 'expected' me to put him up in a 5* hotel (of course, at my expense!).

So now you heard from someone who really knows him - how ugly, how rotten to the core he is, how full of himself, it's enough to make anybody want to throw up in his fat, ugly, dyed face! He's a sore loser, can't admit EVER to being wrong & those who tell him to his face are torn to pieces. He's sucker for his own d*** if only he could reach it!

Nuff said!
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Have you read what Duncan Roads, the Nexus Magazine Editor has written about Stewart Swerdlow???? He states categorically that Stewart Swerdlow was NEVER on the Montauk Project and that he fabircated ALL of it to make a name for himself. What I find odd is why would a man who dyes his hair red and proclaims to have raped, sodomized and helped to murder with hundreds of other government personnel, large numbers of children on the Montauk Project, therefore being a paedophile, is simply running a website.

I have read before Stewart Swerdlow cannot speak loads of languages and is another fabrication and lie he made up. In Blue Blood True Blood none of his 'predictions' occurred on those time schedules and also what is all that he writes about the Illuminati shifting billions of Humans offworld to moons in the Solar System???? WTF, the Elites are committing genocide beginning with Iran so again he got that wrong. Look at this other thread about SS at GLP:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Apparently Stewart Swerdlow according to some of the postings there is a homosexual as well as someone who committed acts of sodomy on children. Well what does that make him???? Seriously, what the hell is going on when someone like that is walking around???? Duncan Roads, the Nexus Editor Magazine has written come incredible postings on that thread about Mr. Swerdlow.
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Personally, I think the m.p. was totally fake and really was about sexual ritual magick, sexual mind kontrol, developing the filth and muck for the porn industry, and to introduce LSD, other sick drug uses and to eventually destroy society.
Quoting: Strange Skies 1078365

^^^ Close to summing it up.^^^


Swerdlow has followers all over the world.Women and men.


1.Swerdlow's real name is Stewart A. Swerdlow

2. Survivors ,independent of one another , living great distances from one another recall Swerdlow functioning as a programmer in what they believe to be Montauk.

3.Preston Nichols speaks ,on camera , of having encountered other survivors.

4. There were survior group meetings .

5. Vince Barbarick ,aka Peter Moon, an ex? Scientologist and owner of Sky Books which published a series of Montauk books including Swerdlow's books,
wrote Swerdlow into the Montauk saga before Swerdlow published his story

Also he is not fluent in the many languages he claims. He does speak some French and some Russian.
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Hi ya'll,
I'm writing in from the other side of the big pond. Some of what I've read here was new (sort of) but didn't really 'surprise' me... I've had him tay at my house a few years ago. I organised a seminar with a few people on the continent. He didn't even understand the questions people asked of him (his 'language' skills" are non existent - no German, no French, no Russian, nada, zilch, only English..). He needed a translator coz he could neither hold his conference in any foreign language & he was stuttering & awfully bad mispronouncing any others. (I'm a genuine linguist - if you do not believe me, there's a person who mentioned a site here re "biggest secret" - that isn't German, it's Dutch, also, if you so choose, I could write the same comment here in Fr & German, nor is English my native tongue. Ok & on & upwards).

He spoiled our towels with his red hair dye, claimed he couldn't see while we were driving on the autobahn at night (so much for his "visual" exercises!) & was extremely ungracious in his account on his site of his stay at my place, trashing me. Worse than that, he 'planted' a wrong trauma into my head, & his 'scan' wasn't appropriate/correct either. He's vile, ugly, & he's gained weight (even though he claims to be a body builder! Urgh!). I knew him before he 'trusted' Icke (at the time he thought Icke wasn't "good enough").

Overall, I can but confirm what has been said about him here, I have met him personally, I had to put up with his cranky, miserable & foul mood because, I found out later, he kind of 'expected' me to put him up in a 5* hotel (of course, at my expense!).

So now you heard from someone who really knows him - how ugly, how rotten to the core he is, how full of himself, it's enough to make anybody want to throw up in his fat, ugly, dyed face! He's a sore loser, can't admit EVER to being wrong & those who tell him to his face are torn to pieces. He's sucker for his own d*** if only he could reach it!

Nuff said!
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Thanks for the information. Who are you exactly? Stewart Swerdlow seems to have made you feel very angry and upset.
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What Anomalous Coward User ID 1086159 posted is from an older thread on Swerdlow

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Hi ya'll,
I'm writing in from the other side of the big pond. Some of what I've read here was new (sort of) but didn't really 'surprise' me... I've had him tay at my house a few years ago. I organised a seminar with a few people on the continent. He didn't even understand the questions people asked of him (his 'language' skills" are non existent - no German, no French, no Russian, nada, zilch, only English..). He needed a translator coz he could neither hold his conference in any foreign language & he was stuttering & awfully bad mispronouncing any others. (I'm a genuine linguist - if you do not believe me, there's a person who mentioned a site here re "biggest secret" - that isn't German, it's Dutch, also, if you so choose, I could write the same comment here in Fr & German, nor is English my native tongue. Ok & on & upwards).

He spoiled our towels with his red hair dye, claimed he couldn't see while we were driving on the autobahn at night (so much for his "visual" exercises!) & was extremely ungracious in his account on his site of his stay at my place, trashing me. Worse than that, he 'planted' a wrong trauma into my head, & his 'scan' wasn't appropriate/correct either. He's vile, ugly, & he's gained weight (even though he claims to be a body builder! Urgh!). I knew him before he 'trusted' Icke (at the time he thought Icke wasn't "good enough").

Overall, I can but confirm what has been said about him here, I have met him personally, I had to put up with his cranky, miserable & foul mood because, I found out later, he kind of 'expected' me to put him up in a 5* hotel (of course, at my expense!).

So now you heard from someone who really knows him - how ugly, how rotten to the core he is, how full of himself, it's enough to make anybody want to throw up in his fat, ugly, dyed face! He's a sore loser, can't admit EVER to being wrong & those who tell him to his face are torn to pieces. He's sucker for his own d*** if only he could reach it!

Nuff said!

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I'm familiar with the person that posted it and they have a damn good reason for their anger.They are smart enough not to let their anger get the best of them and reveal their identity .
There seems to be an endeavor underway to attain the identities of other Montauk survivors and now ,apparently, those who have had experiences with the Swerdlows.
Montauk survivors I know want no publicity.

Swerdlow is a con artist.His wife is more than complicit. His story of Montauk is actually a compilation of his and other's experiences,many lies and twisted truths. He was NOT a victim at Montauk. He was a perpetrator and still is. He was and continues to function as a programmer. He functions for the NWO not against.
He has swindled many people in many countries,both men and women and deliberately destroyed families in the process.
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Actually this person started this thread with the old post:
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Just for clarity .
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Hi ya'll,
I'm writing in from the other side of the big pond. Some of what I've read here was new (sort of) but didn't really 'surprise' me... I've had him tay at my house a few years ago. I organised a seminar with a few people on the continent. He didn't even understand the questions people asked of him (his 'language' skills" are non existent - no German, no French, no Russian, nada, zilch, only English..). He needed a translator coz he could neither hold his conference in any foreign language & he was stuttering & awfully bad mispronouncing any others. (I'm a genuine linguist - if you do not believe me, there's a person who mentioned a site here re "biggest secret" - that isn't German, it's Dutch, also, if you so choose, I could write the same comment here in Fr & German, nor is English my native tongue. Ok & on & upwards).

He spoiled our towels with his red hair dye, claimed he couldn't see while we were driving on the autobahn at night (so much for his "visual" exercises!) & was extremely ungracious in his account on his site of his stay at my place, trashing me. Worse than that, he 'planted' a wrong trauma into my head, & his 'scan' wasn't appropriate/correct either. He's vile, ugly, & he's gained weight (even though he claims to be a body builder! Urgh!). I knew him before he 'trusted' Icke (at the time he thought Icke wasn't "good enough").

Overall, I can but confirm what has been said about him here, I have met him personally, I had to put up with his cranky, miserable & foul mood because, I found out later, he kind of 'expected' me to put him up in a 5* hotel (of course, at my expense!).

So now you heard from someone who really knows him - how ugly, how rotten to the core he is, how full of himself, it's enough to make anybody want to throw up in his fat, ugly, dyed face! He's a sore loser, can't admit EVER to being wrong & those who tell him to his face are torn to pieces. He's sucker for his own d*** if only he could reach it!

Nuff said!
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So Stewart Swerdlow, who is a faggot homosexual according to many posters on that other GLP swerdlow thread, and a reformed paedophile, satanist and all round fraudster and financial cheat, is now shown to dye his hair bright red. What a weird, fake, disgusting, patronising man swerdlow is.
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Hi ya'll,
I'm writing in from the other side of the big pond. Some of what I've read here was new (sort of) but didn't really 'surprise' me... I've had him tay at my house a few years ago. I organised a seminar with a few people on the continent. He didn't even understand the questions people asked of him (his 'language' skills" are non existent - no German, no French, no Russian, nada, zilch, only English..). He needed a translator coz he could neither hold his conference in any foreign language & he was stuttering & awfully bad mispronouncing any others. (I'm a genuine linguist - if you do not believe me, there's a person who mentioned a site here re "biggest secret" - that isn't German, it's Dutch, also, if you so choose, I could write the same comment here in Fr & German, nor is English my native tongue. Ok & on & upwards).

He spoiled our towels with his red hair dye, claimed he couldn't see while we were driving on the autobahn at night (so much for his "visual" exercises!) & was extremely ungracious in his account on his site of his stay at my place, trashing me. Worse than that, he 'planted' a wrong trauma into my head, & his 'scan' wasn't appropriate/correct either. He's vile, ugly, & he's gained weight (even though he claims to be a body builder! Urgh!). I knew him before he 'trusted' Icke (at the time he thought Icke wasn't "good enough").

Overall, I can but confirm what has been said about him here, I have met him personally, I had to put up with his cranky, miserable & foul mood because, I found out later, he kind of 'expected' me to put him up in a 5* hotel (of course, at my expense!).

So now you heard from someone who really knows him - how ugly, how rotten to the core he is, how full of himself, it's enough to make anybody want to throw up in his fat, ugly, dyed face! He's a sore loser, can't admit EVER to being wrong & those who tell him to his face are torn to pieces. He's sucker for his own d*** if only he could reach it!

Nuff said!
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LOL!!!! Very interesting information there.
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Stewart Swerdlow is a gay man, and a former paedophile. I cannot believe people believe his balony stage show acting. His behaviour is disgusting and sickening.
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He MAY be a con artist. But ultametly youre yust being a bitch. What I want to know is that if the things he says about hyperspace etc. are true. Personally they make sense and allot of other things he says make sense.BUT with that being said it is possible that he's abusing he's knowledge and "abilities" for personal gain.

P.S. I'm not paying 200+ dollars for his readings and tapes, shiet, i'm trying to get away from the monetary system. But after all he's not perfect, that will defeat the perpouse of "THIS" existence.javascript:doSmilie(':whatever:');
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He MAY be a con artist. But ultametly youre yust being a bitch. What I want to know is that if the things he says about hyperspace etc. are true. Personally they make sense and allot of other things he says make sense.BUT with that being said it is possible that he's abusing he's knowledge and "abilities" for personal gain.

P.S. I'm not paying 200+ dollars for his readings and tapes, shiet, i'm trying to get away from the monetary system. But after all he's not perfect, that will defeat the perpouse of "THIS" existence.javascript:doSmilie(':whatever:');
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The hyperspace techniques are a trap.
It's like sending up a flag in the lower astral saying "I volunteer" to be fucked with. Some of them draw in particular demons.
Welcome to the ongoing Montauk experiment.
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The hyperspace techniques are a trap.
It's like sending up a flag in the lower astral saying "I volunteer" to be fucked with. Some of them draw in particular demons.
Welcome to the ongoing Montauk experiment.

You may be right, but that means that the techniques are effective nonetheless and should be altered or looked into for apparently positive purposes. I truly believe theres something to our dreams and such, even though he MAY be mixing the the truth with "eviltruths" like almost everything we see nowadays or ALL days.

P.S.(again) Its a sad sad demoralizing world we live in. Do you believe he does this on purpose(consiesly)??
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He MAY be a con artist. But ultametly youre yust being a bitch. What I want to know is that if the things he says about hyperspace etc. are true. Personally they make sense and allot of other things he says make sense.BUT with that being said it is possible that he's abusing he's knowledge and "abilities" for personal gain.

P.S. I'm not paying 200+ dollars for his readings and tapes, shiet, i'm trying to get away from the monetary system. But after all he's not perfect, that will defeat the perpouse of "THIS" existence.javascript:doSmilie(':whatever:');
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The hyperspace techniques are a trap.
It's like sending up a flag in the lower astral saying "I volunteer" to be fucked with. Some of them draw in particular demons.
Welcome to the ongoing Montauk experiment.
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You may be right, but that means that the techniques are effective nonetheless and should be altered or looked into for apparently positive purposes. I truly believe theres something to our dreams and such, even though he MAY be mixing the the truth with "eviltruths" like almost everything we see nowadays or ALL days.

P.S.(again) Its a sad sad demoralizing world we live in. Do you believe he does this on purpose(consiesly)??
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She lies! The man is a gorgeous conartist.
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Hi ya'll,
I'm writing in from the other side of the big pond. Some of what I've read here was new (sort of) but didn't really 'surprise' me... I've had him tay at my house a few years ago. I organised a seminar with a few people on the continent. He didn't even understand the questions people asked of him (his 'language' skills" are non existent - no German, no French, no Russian, nada, zilch, only English..). He needed a translator coz he could neither hold his conference in any foreign language & he was stuttering & awfully bad mispronouncing any others. (I'm a genuine linguist - if you do not believe me, there's a person who mentioned a site here re "biggest secret" - that isn't German, it's Dutch, also, if you so choose, I could write the same comment here in Fr & German, nor is English my native tongue. Ok & on & upwards).

He spoiled our towels with his red hair dye, claimed he couldn't see while we were driving on the autobahn at night (so much for his "visual" exercises!) & was extremely ungracious in his account on his site of his stay at my place, trashing me. Worse than that, he 'planted' a wrong trauma into my head, & his 'scan' wasn't appropriate/correct either. He's vile, ugly, & he's gained weight (even though he claims to be a body builder! Urgh!). I knew him before he 'trusted' Icke (at the time he thought Icke wasn't "good enough").

Overall, I can but confirm what has been said about him here, I have met him personally, I had to put up with his cranky, miserable & foul mood because, I found out later, he kind of 'expected' me to put him up in a 5* hotel (of course, at my expense!).

So now you heard from someone who really knows him - how ugly, how rotten to the core he is, how full of himself, it's enough to make anybody want to throw up in his fat, ugly, dyed face! He's a sore loser, can't admit EVER to being wrong & those who tell him to his face are torn to pieces. He's sucker for his own d*** if only he could reach it!

Nuff said!
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Why doe anyone care what Stewart Swerdlow says. It is con artist that plagiarizes everyone elses work. An example is $.$. states he has the DNA of 22 different E.T. Groups in him. Supposedly this makes him the narcissistic, egocentric, psychotic homosexual that feels he is more important than the rest of us. Alex Collier states that HUMANS have the DNA of 22 different E.T. Groups, so Stewart Swerdlow is fake, useless, boring idiot.

Stewart Swerdlow and Janet Swerdlow have destroyed marriages, families, husbands and wives with their SATANIC MIND CONTROLLING EVIL and $.$. stole and plagiarized the Hyperspace Language from Mary-Anne Johnson. Therefore he is a cheat and a liar. Any man that parrots on about how he was programmed to sexually abuse, torture and murder thousands of children on the Montauk Project is a sick motherfucker and Stewart Swerdlow is a gay man in a fake heterosexual marriage. Go and research that for yourselves.
People the $.$. Satan Club is a Mind Control Cult. Janet Swerdlow is a Satanist and does not give a damn about anyone but herself and her lifestyle.
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I completely agree - both swerdlows are complete scum in every wya - I could write volumes of my experiences - the only people that are on his site are 'lost souls' that have no other place to act like oversized children - ie, the females all call him 'daddy' and the males are sycophants that have nothing else in theri lives
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Who are you people....I know Stewart Swerdlow like no others. I used to be married to him. You have no idea what kind of egocentric, abusive man he is. I spent 15 years with him. I divorced him when he embezzeled money from an employer. He went away to jail and obviously spent his time thinking up how he could pull the wool over as many eyes as he could. He is a common lowlife ex-con, who seems to be putting it all over on anyone with ears. Too bad. Glad to be rid of him.
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Swerdlow has heaven sends the conman in his chinese astrology chart. Maybe this explains some of these posters'disastisfaction with the man, maybe he has ripped people off with this expensive new age psycho therapy trip/trap. Personally I would avoid anyone who charges fortunes for their non certifiable psycho mumbo jumbo.

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