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I SAW JESUS PERFECTION

 
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One night after saying some payers I had a vision of Jesus in my spirit: I saw Jesus full of grace. When he moved, it wasn't just graceful movement, it was Grace itself moving. I saw the perfection of Jesus in my spirit. This aspect of my vision/revelation was very beautiful. I did not see his face because he was beginning to turn away. His hair was difficult to describe. It was not like the nice little pictures we carry in our wallets or hang on our walls. His hair was dry and wind swept. It was like the way your hair gets when you spend the day at the beach. His hair was also very, very thick like he had never had it thinned out. If you can imagine a man who had never had his hair thinned out and wind swept by the hot sun, this is what Jesus' hair looked like. It wasn't at all dirty but just looked caveman-like. I also saw part of his beard, but like I said, he was turning away as if to say "follow me." This vision wasn't a brief flash of a picture in my mind like some are but rather a revelation in my spirit, slightly longer lasting, and leaving an impression on my soul.
I was awestruck by what I saw. I said to myself, "I have seen the Lord Christ." Why I said that precise title I still have no idea to this day. But what I do know and have learned by this is that Jesus is Grace itself. This revelation/teaching helped me greatly in the years to come. From that day onward I understood that whatever Jesus decided for me was the best for me. Whatever Jesus allowed to happen to me would become the best for me because Grace does not make mistakes. Jesus can do no wrong. Jesus is perfect. As the Scriptures say, "God is light, in him there is no darkness." And again, "God is love." All of these scriptures have come alive for me - even more than they already were - since seeing Jesus. A more complete telling of this experience is at….
May the Grace and Peace of God be yours during this Holy Season.
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The Good New of Jesus Will Continue!

For all of you who are disappointed with what men have done in the name of religion, I understand. Today I am talking about an historical person who lived and died and yet continues to be seen down through the generations. His resurrection is yet another aspect of his life that makes it so unique. Thousands of people have testified to his ongoing life beyond his historical death and that is why his Good News – The Gospel of Jesus Christ – will continue to be proclaimed until the end of time. The Good News is that Jesus died for you and that you can have Eternal Life by repenting of sin and placing your faith in Him! I saw Jesus, in his perfection, and share that information with you. Believe in Jesus and receive Eternal Life….that is why it is called Good News!

I’ll try to be around for a while in case anyone has a sincere question.

Other answers can be found at: [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]
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Since there was nothing spoken then all I can ask is how long was His hair and what color?
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Since there was nothing spoken then all I can ask is how long was His hair and what color?
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Seemed about touching his shoulders and dark in color.
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I've seen several flashes of visions of Him too.

Two of them were not dreams, but visions with my eyes closed.

In the two visions, He appeared all white...

one where he was hanging on a white cross, and a white dove flew from his chest.

The other was unusual, because I have never imagined or thought of Jesus in this way, but he was sitting in lotus fashion on a white stair stepped platform, with a white rod or staff next to him, that had a decorative topper to it....

again, He and everything else, was all white, no color.


the third one was a dream, and everything was dark except the outlined edges of everything was depicted in glowing rainbow color.

similar to this...

[link to www.touchmyapps.com]

He and I and several others (?) were ascending a hill to a city that looked like the temple mount.


He is pure and perfection indeed.
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He is pure and perfection indeed.


Amen to that. hf
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I've seen several flashes of visions of Him too.

Two of them were not dreams, but visions with my eyes closed.

In the two visions, He appeared all white...

one where he was hanging on a white cross, and a white dove flew from his chest.

The other was unusual, because I have never imagined or thought of Jesus in this way, but he was sitting in lotus fashion on a white stair stepped platform, with a white rod or staff next to him, that had a decorative topper to it....

again, He and everything else, was all white, no color.


the third one was a dream, and everything was dark except the outlined edges of everything was depicted in glowing rainbow color.

similar to this...

[link to www.touchmyapps.com]

He and I and several others (?) were ascending a hill to a city that looked like the temple mount.


He is pure and perfection indeed.
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Cool! God is so good to those who take the time to get to know him.
hf
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He is pure and perfection indeed.


Amen to that. hf
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His love is everlasting. The offer of Eternal Life is something worth seeking and studying.
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Oh are you in for a shock chuckle
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I've seen several flashes of visions of Him too.

Two of them were not dreams, but visions with my eyes closed.

In the two visions, He appeared all white...

one where he was hanging on a white cross, and a white dove flew from his chest.

The other was unusual, because I have never imagined or thought of Jesus in this way, but he was sitting in lotus fashion on a white stair stepped platform, with a white rod or staff next to him, that had a decorative topper to it....

again, He and everything else, was all white, no color.


the third one was a dream, and everything was dark except the outlined edges of everything was depicted in glowing rainbow color.

similar to this...

[link to www.touchmyapps.com]

He and I and several others (?) were ascending a hill to a city that looked like the temple mount.


He is pure and perfection indeed.
===========================================


Cool! God is so good to those who take the time to get to know him.
hf
 Quoting: Once4All


What was interesting to me is, that although I'm a faithful believer, during the times I had those two visions, He was the furthest thing from my mind.

So it wasn't like I was trying to concentrate on seeing Him.

But so glad I did!
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Oh are you in for a shock chuckle
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So are you. chuckle
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This is your subconsience - Jesus is a powerful Messenger and Prophet of God. He is a man who even said to the people that they should pray to God and that he himself was not God.

He will return on the 2nd Coming.

He had not died but raised to heavan by God. It was Judas who was crucified in his place.

God did not allow any harm come to Jesus.

All the proof of this can be found in the Bible. When Jesus returned he was disguised as a gardener. Those who knew Jesus felt his hand and knew he was not a spirit.
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"repenting of sin"

This is pretty much the Christ Consciousness asking you/us to balance the polarised human nature we have created for ourselves. Dichotomy out of balance...

The sin is the unholy imbalance of spirituality and materialism .

But that is just the tip of the iceberg.. when you glimpse your soul you will start to see the many things that need to harmonise, need to drop the judgements and start to operate as integral beings in harmony with nature and the universe not at odds with it.
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

[link to thesecrettempleofit.blogspot.com]
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I've seen several flashes of visions of Him too.

Two of them were not dreams, but visions with my eyes closed.

In the two visions, He appeared all white...

one where he was hanging on a white cross, and a white dove flew from his chest.

The other was unusual, because I have never imagined or thought of Jesus in this way, but he was sitting in lotus fashion on a white stair stepped platform, with a white rod or staff next to him, that had a decorative topper to it....

again, He and everything else, was all white, no color.


the third one was a dream, and everything was dark except the outlined edges of everything was depicted in glowing rainbow color.

similar to this...

[link to www.touchmyapps.com]

He and I and several others (?) were ascending a hill to a city that looked like the temple mount.


He is pure and perfection indeed.
===========================================


Cool! God is so good to those who take the time to get to know him.
hf


What was interesting to me is, that although I'm a faithful believer, during the times I had those two visions, He was the furthest thing from my mind.

So it wasn't like I was trying to concentrate on seeing Him.

But so glad I did!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593154

Jesus truly is "The Good Shepard." He does everything he can to keep his sheep! The last thing I was expecting was a vision like that and I have never had one of that intensity since.
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Oh are you in for a shock chuckle




So are you. chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593154

No, I have spent years looking at this; it's all a delusion that was created by one man, probably with a brain injury.
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This is your subconsience - Jesus is a powerful Messenger and Prophet of God. He is a man who even said to the people that they should pray to God and that he himself was not God.

He will return on the 2nd Coming.

He had not died but raised to heavan by God. It was Judas who was crucified in his place.

God did not allow any harm come to Jesus.

All the proof of this can be found in the Bible. When Jesus returned he was disguised as a gardener. Those who knew Jesus felt his hand and knew he was not a spirit.
 Quoting: moon 640545

There were eyewitnesses of the death of Jesus on the cross. Books [Gospels] were written about what they saw. These books are not complicated nor were they written to trick anyone. A straightforward reading with an open heart and mind would do you a lot of good, imho.
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This is your subconsience - Jesus is a powerful Messenger and Prophet of God. He is a man who even said to the people that they should pray to God and that he himself was not God.

He will return on the 2nd Coming.

He had not died but raised to heavan by God. It was Judas who was crucified in his place.

God did not allow any harm come to Jesus.

All the proof of this can be found in the Bible. When Jesus returned he was disguised as a gardener. Those who knew Jesus felt his hand and knew he was not a spirit.

There were eyewitnesses of the death of Jesus on the cross. Books [Gospels] were written about what they saw. These books are not complicated nor were they written to trick anyone. A straightforward reading with an open heart and mind would do you a lot of good, imho.
 Quoting: Once4All

Your sentence is incorrect. The book SAYS there were witnesses. If an approach like that were used in any other explanation of any other failed event, you would be the first to holler bsflag
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Oh are you in for a shock chuckle




So are you. chuckle

No, I have spent years looking at this; it's all a delusion that was created by one man, probably with a brain injury.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653883

There were many years of history leading up to the birth of the Messiah [Jesus] and many years since with thousands of people giving testimony to the truth. Your "one man" theory makes no sense at all. Seek and you will find.... the decision will mean the difference between heaven and hell.
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This is your subconsience - Jesus is a powerful Messenger and Prophet of God. He is a man who even said to the people that they should pray to God and that he himself was not God.

He will return on the 2nd Coming.

He had not died but raised to heavan by God. It was Judas who was crucified in his place.

God did not allow any harm come to Jesus.

All the proof of this can be found in the Bible. When Jesus returned he was disguised as a gardener. Those who knew Jesus felt his hand and knew he was not a spirit.

There were eyewitnesses of the death of Jesus on the cross. Books [Gospels] were written about what they saw. These books are not complicated nor were they written to trick anyone. A straightforward reading with an open heart and mind would do you a lot of good, imho.

Your sentence is incorrect. The book SAYS there were witnesses. If an approach like that were used in any other explanation of any other failed event, you would be the first to holler bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653883

Amen. This vision did not come out of my sub-conscousness. It was an operation within my spirit that I don't think I had ever experienced before....not as powerful as that! And it contained revelation. That fact that Jesus is not simply graceful but rather Full of Grace or Grace Itself was something that God showed me...not like I'm trying to explain it to you.
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Oh are you in for a shock chuckle




So are you. chuckle

No, I have spent years looking at this; it's all a delusion that was created by one man, probably with a brain injury.

There were many years of history leading up to the birth of the Messiah [Jesus] and many years since with thousands of people giving testimony to the truth. Your "one man" theory makes no sense at all. Seek and you will find.... the decision will mean the difference between heaven and hell.
 Quoting: Once4All

Really? Paul was the "one man" who, about 20 years AFTER THE FACT, and after a sudden collapse that produced flashes of light, auditory and visual hallucinations, suddenly believed that the end of the world was somehow connected to the Jewish messiah. Study your history - the Jewish messiah had NOTHING to do with the end of the world. Paul had acquired (if the information can even be trusted) a mild stroke or some other brain problem, and acquired a brand new context concerning life. A context that was not only dead wrong, but it was 20 years after the fact. You have not studied. You have gathered information to back your belief. You fail.
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This is your subconsience - Jesus is a powerful Messenger and Prophet of God. He is a man who even said to the people that they should pray to God and that he himself was not God.

He will return on the 2nd Coming.

He had not died but raised to heavan by God. It was Judas who was crucified in his place.

God did not allow any harm come to Jesus.

All the proof of this can be found in the Bible. When Jesus returned he was disguised as a gardener. Those who knew Jesus felt his hand and knew he was not a spirit.
 Quoting: moon 640545

That being is a reflection of anyone that attains the higher consciousness. This is why Christians are not growing spiritually. They look for their savior outside of themselves. This can be acheived anytime with "change of thought" and compassion. It is the only WAY.

I communed with this consciousness, my true essence, for a period of time.
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This is your subconsience - Jesus is a powerful Messenger and Prophet of God. He is a man who even said to the people that they should pray to God and that he himself was not God.

He will return on the 2nd Coming.

He had not died but raised to heavan by God. It was Judas who was crucified in his place.

God did not allow any harm come to Jesus.

All the proof of this can be found in the Bible. When Jesus returned he was disguised as a gardener. Those who knew Jesus felt his hand and knew he was not a spirit.

That being is a reflection of anyone that attains the higher consciousness. This is why Christians are not growing spiritually. They look for their savior outside of themselves. This can be acheived anytime with "change of thought" and compassion. It is the only WAY.

I communed with this consciousness, my true essence, for a period of time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 594943

The holy spirit actually takes up residence in your heart or spirit. So we actually do quiet ourselves down to 'listen' to what God is saying to us... and we do grow. Most of the people here at glp who type in there mean and crude messages are not christians. As a group, I think the christians here are quite respectful... and that is a sign of growth!
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Oh are you in for a shock chuckle




So are you. chuckle

No, I have spent years looking at this; it's all a delusion that was created by one man, probably with a brain injury.

There were many years of history leading up to the birth of the Messiah [Jesus] and many years since with thousands of people giving testimony to the truth. Your "one man" theory makes no sense at all. Seek and you will find.... the decision will mean the difference between heaven and hell.

Really? Paul was the "one man" who, about 20 years AFTER THE FACT, and after a sudden collapse that produced flashes of light, auditory and visual hallucinations, suddenly believed that the end of the world was somehow connected to the Jewish messiah. Study your history - the Jewish messiah had NOTHING to do with the end of the world. Paul had acquired (if the information can even be trusted) a mild stroke or some other brain problem, and acquired a brand new context concerning life. A context that was not only dead wrong, but it was 20 years after the fact. You have not studied. You have gathered information to back your belief. You fail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653883

How do you know that Paul experienced "auditory and visual hallucinations." You actually do not know that! Your pride has caused you to proclaim something as truth and yet you cannot know - for sure - what happened to Paul. Pride comes before a fall! Also, it was not just Paul, there were hundreds of others who saw Jesus in life and then after his death. You can lie to yourself but there is no way I will accept them. I HAVE SEEN THE TRUTH!
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Was this last night OP?
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That being is a reflection of anyone that attains the higher consciousness. This is why Christians are not growing spiritually. They look for their savior outside of themselves. This can be acheived anytime with "change of thought" and compassion. It is the only WAY.

I communed with this consciousness, my true essence, for a period of time.
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You communed with the source, the Source, which is like a powerplant in the middle of a city.

Just because you plugged into the source, doesn't mean you are the source.



btw, how do you know Christians aren't growing spirituall?


did you poll them all?
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Was this last night OP?
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No! This was many years ago hmmmmm....about 25 years ago! Like I said, I've never had a vision so powerful since. It was truly unique and helped me through difficult years when some things didn't seem to go my way.
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That being is a reflection of anyone that attains the higher consciousness. This is why Christians are not growing spiritually. They look for their savior outside of themselves. This can be acheived anytime with "change of thought" and compassion. It is the only WAY.

I communed with this consciousness, my true essence, for a period of time.



You communed with the source, the Source, which is like a powerplant in the middle of a city.

Just because you plugged into the source, doesn't mean you are the source.



btw, how do you know Christians aren't growing spirituall?


did you poll them all?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593154

If they were growing spiritually, they would probably not attend an orthodox church and believe in sin and evil. They would see no evil or live in duality.

We are all of the "Source" or infinite creator. What is taught in church does nothing to raise the frequency, but propogates duality.

The "Source" I spoke of is the "Christos" or anointed one.
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I've read this exact description/story before. Are you the originator of the story, OP?
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How do you know that Paul experienced "auditory and visual hallucinations." You actually do not know that! Your pride has caused you to proclaim something as truth and yet you cannot know - for sure - what happened to Paul. Pride comes before a fall! Also, it was not just Paul, there were hundreds of others who saw Jesus in life and then after his death. You can lie to yourself but there is no way I will accept them. I HAVE SEEN THE TRUTH!
 Quoting: Once4All

Paul's experience is a moot point in an of itself. The main data proves the entire religion was constructed by one man, and that, for some odd reason, was well after the fact.

The point you should be dealing with first is the fact that the expected doom and salvation was supposed to have happened 2000 years ago, and in fact, it didn't. This information came from the same man, Paul.

Once the important point is dealt with, that point being the religion is an error, lessor points like an explanation as to why Paul suddenly decided to do and say what he did can be dealt with. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter what (if anything) happened to Paul, what matters is the what he said was wrong - it never happened.
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Oh are you in for a shock chuckle




So are you. chuckle
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So are you!!


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I've read this exact description/story before. Are you the originator of the story, OP?

Yes, you probably read it on my web site:

[link to savemenowjesus.com]

I get about 1000 clicks per month. People just searching for the truth.
 Quoting: Once4All


Ah yes, I did read that. I loved your story. The part about your stint as a Catholic priest made me laugh so hard! Not at the pain that you had to go through, of course, but at the way you wrote about that experience. We all make mistakes, but at least you can laugh about yours!

God bless you. And I find when you say "All in all, Jesus has been a wonderful friend" to be completely true in my case as well.





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