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The Galactic Alignment will not occur in 2012.. it already happened.. in 1998!

 
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The Galactic Alignment will not occur in 2012.. it already happened.. in 1998!
The Galactic Alignment is the alignment of the December solstice sun with the Galactic equator.
This alignment occurs as a result of the precession of the equinoxes.
The precise alignment of the solstice point (the precise center-point of the body of the sun as viewed from earth) with the Galactic equator was calculated to occur in 1998.

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Only a few actually know what the Maya calendar really says. There's no proof it says anything about 2012. Still someone in the occult is claiming this so they may pull something, or not.


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HISTORY OF THE DECIPHERING OF MAYA HIEROGLYPHS

In 1862 the Abbe Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, came across an abridged version of De Landa's manuscript "Relacion de las Cosas de Yucatan" which had "the names of the days in the 260 day calendar and the names of the months in the approximate solar year of 365 appeared with their appropriate hieroglyphs" (Coe 1992: 101). De Landa explained how the Maya writing system worked. In his book Breaking the Maya Code (1992), Michael Coe refers to De Landa's manuscript as "the true Rosetta Stone for the decipherment of the Maya hierorlyphic writing" (p.100, Source: Coe, Michael D.Hudson, 1992: 105; Breaking the Maya Code Thames and Hudson, 1992:105).

THE CALENDRICAL SYSTEM

In 1880, Ernst Forstemann, a royal librarian at Dresden, began studying the Maya hieroglyphs in the surviving codices (books written on bark-paper, of which the Dresden Codex is the most famous) and in the few inscribed monuments known at the time. In 14 years Forstermann deciphered the workings of the Maya calendar. He demonstrated that the calendar is based on paired cycles of 260 days and 365 days. The date is commonly expressed by noting its position in both the 260 and 365 day cycle. Because this combination repeats itself every 52 years the Maya chroniclers recorded a "date's position in a more precise long count, I a linear reckoning whose starting point is the year 3114 B.C." (Stuart & Houston 1989: 84).
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Only a few actually know what the Maya calendar really says. There's no proof it says anything about 2012. Still someone in the occult is claiming this so they may pull something, or not.
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I have studied up on the Mayan Calendar.

The bloke who really worked it out properly was Ian Xel Lungold.

[link to www.mayanmajix.com]

The Mayan's predicted the Galactic Alignment to be the 28th of October 2011.

Which is not a bad effort without telescopes or computers.
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ShaneCMuer,

There has been some mention of this in the Denver Airport thread. In fact I have the artwork in my custom similes file. But the discussion has kind of skipped over it. I'll have a look at your links now.

BTW ref David Koresh, as I said I don't think much of him. But I should have made it clear that yes Janet Reno, BATF etc where in on a conspiracy.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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And there is this from Goro Adachis site...

Mayan Palingenesis...


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We Christians like to keep on top of things.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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My reason for bringing the subject up is because there are so many doomsday theories about the Galactic Alignment.

Well.. the true Galactic Alignment has already occured.. and the worst thing that happened in 1998 was that Soviet Russia fell over.

And that was actually a pretty good thing.
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I agree with the OP!

The Mayans worshiped human sacrifice........I don't think they would be inspired enough to anything about the true course of events to come! IMHO
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I agree with the OP!

The Mayans worshiped human sacrifice........I don't think they would be inspired enough to anything about the true course of events to come! IMHO
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The Mayans are not the ones writing all the books scaring the people about 2012.
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The Mayan's predicted the Galactic Alignment to be the 28th of October 2011.

Which is not a bad effort without telescopes or computers.
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I thought you said it had already occurred in 1998 but here you are saying the Mayan's predicted it for 2011 and how great that is. I'm confused. Please explain.
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My reason for bringing the subject up is because there are so many doomsday theories about the Galactic Alignment.

Well.. the true Galactic Alignment has already occured.. and the worst thing that happened in 1998 was that Soviet Russia fell over.

And that was actually a pretty good thing.
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I thought it collapsed ten years earlier....

You Created a time paradox! GLP will now be divided by zero.
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The Mayans are not the ones writing all the books scaring the people about 2012.
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Exactly! thumbs
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I thought it collapsed ten years earlier....

You Created a time paradox! GLP will now be divided by zero.
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Russia had a financial collapse in 1998 that was far more severe than the Great Depression was in the United States (in terms of Gross Domestic Product).

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That was the real end to Soviet Russia.
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I thought you said it had already occurred in 1998 but here you are saying the Mayan's predicted it for 2011 and how great that is. I'm confused. Please explain.
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The missed by 13 years which is not a bad effort considering the fact that they did not have computers and telescopes.

We have computers and telescopes.. but we still seem a little confused about the issue.

The Galactic Alignment occured and the was no doomsday event.
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I thought it collapsed ten years earlier....

You Created a time paradox! GLP will now be divided by zero.


Russia had a financial collapse in 1998 that was far more severe than the Great Depression was in the United States (in terms of Gross Domestic Product).

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

That was the real end to Soviet Russia.
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Yes you're right I only thought about the name change in 92.

Btw, aren't you guys emphasizing the alignment to much? Is that the main event that the mayans talked about, isn't the prophecy broader than that? If its just an alignment what is to be feared?
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Yes you're right I only thought about the name change in 92.

Btw, aren't you guys emphasizing the alignment to much? Is that the main event that the mayans talked about, isn't the prophecy broader than that? If its just an alignment what is to be feared?
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What prophecy do you mean?

I think the Mayans thought there would be a cataclysm on the Alignment. The Alignment has come and gone and they were wrong.

Revelations in the Bible did not predict the fall of the Soviet Union or 911. Although, to be fair, Revelations does correctly name what was, and still is, the enemy of mankind.. Mystery Babylon.

Even Nostradamus did not predict the fall of the Soviet Union or 911.

We are now officially in the NEW AGE.. the Age of Aquarius and I would say there is no relevant prophecy and the future.. is totally up for grabs.

So what will you do with this information?
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Only a few actually know what the Maya calendar really says. There's no proof it says anything about 2012. Still someone in the occult is claiming this so they may pull something, or not.


I have studied up on the Mayan Calendar.

The bloke who really worked it out properly was Ian Xel Lungold.

[link to www.mayanmajix.com]

The Mayan's predicted the Galactic Alignment to be the 28th of October 2011.

Which is not a bad effort without telescopes or computers.
 Quoting: ShaneCMuir

Lungold is excellent, may he RIP. I believe Terrence McKenna also said 2011, may he RIP, too.
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Really? I remember learning about this in school, and thinking, I will be over 40 by then, who cares, I will be so old. LOL, at myself. I think it is not taught anymore, so people feel free to say anything.
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it aint over yet though [link to alignment2012.com]
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it aint over yet though
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Well.. if you are talking about the zone that is between 1980 and 2016.. then you are correct.

But as far all the earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, magnetic flips etc etc that we have all heard about for years occuring on THE Galactic Alignment.. then it has past.. and nothing happened.

relax.
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Lungold made a great presentation as far as how the Tzolkin/Tun calendrical system works, but it was mostly based on the work of Dr. Carl Calleman.

It is interesting to read his books and see that the two had very different outlooks on how the galactic cycle would play out.

So far Calleman's outlook has been much more accurate.


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2012.. it already happened.. in 1998!

..or 1995

yes


and now is 2034
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or is it already 2035
....it is 2037, yes!
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I think these posts prove we are all as confused as each other. I Suppose we will know soon enough. I Can't help but feel something is happening. It feels like the Illuminati know and they are trying desperately to cover it up.

And remember, it is not only the Galactic Alignment which may or may not be happening in 2012. There are many other theories that are very believable, including the solar flares bombarding Earth like never before.

Even if something major does happen, it does not necessarily mean doom. The dinosaurs might have witnessed the ultimate doom, but for other mammals, including ourselves, this was the new beginning.

There is always the BIGGER picture to look at.
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OP, you are somewhat correct in your post as to the alignment but it is not finished as yet. Please read on as i try to clumsily explain.
Almost all the researchers who are not the Woo woo type agree that 2012 is not by itself a special date as far as the glactic alignment is concerned. They all agree that the start of actual alignment happened in 1980 and it will take 36 years for this to end and that will be in 2016.
Now in 1998 the solar system was in exact line with glactic plane which was the mid point of the 36 year alignment.
You can visualise it this way. Draw a line and then cut a circle and slowly push towards the line as if crossing the line at 90 degrees to the line. The moment the edge of circle touches the line that is the start of 36 year alignment era. When circle is pushed further and the centre of circle touches the line that is the 1998 date. Push the circle further until the edge of circle one again is touching the line as it is moving away from the line. That is just before 2016. After that the alignment won't happen for another 26000 years in this particular way. (although a similar alignment happens once a year every year as a matter of fact).
Now, just before the solar system comes out of this alignment, in fact 7 years before there needs to be some re-organisation done to the solar system and earth before it moves to the new era so to speak. This is where the 7 year period comes in. 7 years before the end date of alignment which is 2016 is 2009 and 2012 is exactly the mid point of the 7 year cycle.
It all makes sense now as far as calculations are concerned. Up to now many were just using the 2012 date as a crossing of solar system without really applying science to know that this kind of movement in space does not happen in just one day. Now it is clear that the era of crossing is actually 36 years.
2012 is an important date since it indicates that the world will move away from the height of problems from that date and begin to slow down until just before 2016 when we move totally to a new era.
What happens after that, we shall find out if we survive.peace
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It is the people who create the problem by thinking there will be some big disaster.

When they realise that milestone is over and there was no disaster... poof.. peace!

We have already begun the Age of Aquarius.
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I agree with the OP!

The Mayans worshiped human sacrifice........I don't think they would be inspired enough to anything about the true course of events to come! IMHO
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The conundrum of the Mayans is that yes, they were barbaric, but are also heralded by mathematicians and scientists as being excellent calendar/time keepers.
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The conundrum of the Mayans is that yes, they were barbaric, but are also heralded by mathematicians and scientists as being excellent calendar/time keepers.
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But they were wrong.

This is a mathematical question that was answered by Jean Meeus (Mathematical Astronomy Morsels, 1997).

The precise actual Galactic Alignment occured in 1998.

And guess what.

We all survived.

Not only that.. a good thing happened.

Soviet Russia fell over.

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