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Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIA

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Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIA
Quote

Real creatures from Mars- cover them up with Zeta Reticulan bullshit.

Real inside job on 9/11-- cover it up with no planes bullshit and the rest of the crap.

Real signs in the sky-- cover it up with chemtrails bullshit.


That's how.

WHY?

Because when the bullshit is "debunked", the reality is not even involved- the reality is effectively covered up by an entirely false intellectual struggle which is totally false at its heart. Just the way the NWO likes it.

WAKE UP WHILE YOU CAN


DOH!
Anonymous Coward
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4/19/2009 10:18 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Real creatures from Mars- cover them up with Zeta Reticulan bullshit.

Real inside job on 9/11-- cover it up with no planes bullshit and the rest of the crap.

Real signs in the sky-- cover it up with chemtrails bullshit.


That's how.

WHY?

Because when the bullshit is "debunked", the reality is not even involved- the reality is effectively covered up by an entirely false intellectual struggle which is totally false at its heart. Just the way the NWO likes it.

WAKE UP WHILE YOU CAN

 Quoting: Goldfish


Yes. Hide in plain sight.
Goldfish
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4/19/2009 10:25 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote



It's like the old film rollerball, and our own preoccupations- a load of nonsense whilst there is a universe that can be directly confirmed through observation and experiment all around us. Even the esoteric and paranormal parts of it.

The thing is, as Goering said, people are easily led and confused.

Gustave Gilbert, an intelligence officer, interviewed Hermann Goering at Nuremberg on 18th April, 1946.

We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

DOH!
Goldfish
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4/19/2009 11:10 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

As a general rule, look for what is unspoken, concealed and overlooked. What has been laughed at and forgotten.

For example:

Barney and Betty Hill- the apparent source of the Zeta Reticuli bullshit.

In point of fact they had no conception of where the entities they allegedly encountered came from. Barney reported seeing Nazis, humans AND humanoids. This is ignored or glossed over to make the encounter fit the new mythology.

Countless reports have described goblins, pointy eared monsters, carrot nosed aliens... Yet this doesn't fit the Zeta Reticuli agitprop so is suppressed.

"Little Green Men From Mars" have much more reality than Zeta Reticulans. And the real "grays" are mantis-like tall predatory entities, quite prepared to catch, kill and eat humans- just as they have always throughout history (until recently) been depicted as doing.
DOH!
Goldfish
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4/19/2009 11:10 PM
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DOH!
Anonymous Coward
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4/19/2009 11:12 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

step #1: ridicule
Alcyone
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4/19/2009 11:33 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

The Greys are from the Zeta Reticuli system.

And all intelligent life on Mars went extinct millions of years ago.
Alcyone
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4/19/2009 11:35 PM
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And the Greys aren't tall, or insectoid, and they don't eat humans. In fact they don't really eat anything. They just drink this weird soupy nutrient solution.
Anonymous Coward
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4/20/2009 12:21 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

And the Greys aren't tall, or insectoid, and they don't eat humans. In fact they don't really eat anything. They just drink this weird soupy nutrient solution.
 Quoting: Alcyone 644383


Susan Boyles piss?
Goldfish
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4/20/2009 12:24 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

The Greys are from the Zeta Reticuli system.

And all intelligent life on Mars went extinct millions of years ago.
 Quoting: Alcyone 644383


Rubbish.

The Zeta Reticuli name came from Marjorie Fish, with a little help from a man called... let's say... Maurice Bishop. The name and the myth around it has ZERO to do with gray encounters. ZERO. The whole zeta reticuli nonsense is bunk. Nothing more than a successful Adamski-style agitprop operation run by MK / QK QUEEN and highly successful too. Unfortunately.
DOH!
Goldfish
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4/20/2009 12:35 AM
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"Are you restricted to a narrow mind?
Is your heart limited, your view confined?
Scared by some magic symbols, some new word,
you have to hear what you've always heard?"
- Goethe's Faust.
DOH!
Anonymous Coward
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4/20/2009 1:10 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

wtf bsflag
Alcyone
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4/20/2009 1:14 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

The Greys are from the Zeta Reticuli system.

And all intelligent life on Mars went extinct millions of years ago.


Rubbish.

The Zeta Reticuli name came from Marjorie Fish, with a little help from a man called... let's say... Maurice Bishop. The name and the myth around it has ZERO to do with gray encounters. ZERO. The whole zeta reticuli nonsense is bunk. Nothing more than a successful Adamski-style agitprop operation run by MK / QK QUEEN and highly successful too. Unfortunately.
 Quoting: Goldfish


Marjorie Fish was right.
Goldfish
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4/20/2009 1:18 AM
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Marjorie Fish was right??? Are you HIGH?

She made up a star map (with some help) based on NOTHING. It had no relationship to reality, and didn't even closely resemble the original version of Betty Hill's separate version of the alleged shared experience. It wasn't even anecdotal, it was made up out of whole cloth.

And on this single Tolkien-esque mythological element the whole modern Zeta Reticuli industry has been born.

It doesn't resemble a real event or the phemomena of something real. It looks like what it is- cult behaviour carefully farmed and harvested by the NSA. Zeta cultists are one small step away from Heaven's Gate.
ddtka
DOH!
Anonymous Coward
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4/20/2009 1:22 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Hi Goldfish.

I cannot PM you, but I would be interested in hearing more about your thoughts on the tall, predatory insectoid 'alien' race.

Serious discussion and alot of questions from me if you care to answer them.
Goldfish
User ID: 657168
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4/20/2009 1:28 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

The Greys are from the Zeta Reticuli system.

And all intelligent life on Mars went extinct millions of years ago.


Rubbish.

The Zeta Reticuli name came from Marjorie Fish, with a little help from a man called... let's say... Maurice Bishop. The name and the myth around it has ZERO to do with gray encounters. ZERO. The whole zeta reticuli nonsense is bunk. Nothing more than a successful Adamski-style agitprop operation run by MK / QK QUEEN and highly successful too. Unfortunately.


Marjorie Fish was right.
 Quoting: Alcyone 644383


Betty also later reproduced a star map she claimed was shown to her by the captain. Marjorie Fish later analyzed it and claimed that all the little dots lined up perfectly with stars in the Zeta Reticuli system. But only if the viewing point of the star map is from somewhere other than Earth, and only if it's rotated and finagled a bit. This is one of the hardest points to refute, but Kottmeyer again draws similarities to a star map shown in Invaders from Mars. One thing strikes me as odd: Betty claims that the map shows numerous stars as well as planets; Fish's interpretation only works if you assume that all of the dots represent stars. Fish's interpretation demands that you ignore Betty's statement that some of the little dots are planets. I'm not going to argue that Betty got the map from one source or another: I argue that if you throw some dots down on a peice of paper, and are liberal in your interpretation as to which ones are stars, planets, asteroids, or whatever other junk is floating around in outer space, you are very likely to eventually match it up with something, somewhere.

Source: [link to www.theironskeptic.com]

APOPHENIA.

All this dross distracts from the real encounters and the humans who traffic with the real aliens, both ultraterrestrial and extraterrestrial.

DOH!
Goldfish
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4/20/2009 1:30 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Hi Goldfish.

I cannot PM you, but I would be interested in hearing more about your thoughts on the tall, predatory insectoid 'alien' race.

Serious discussion and alot of questions from me if you care to answer them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660453


Well I know the "mantis" type critters are real, whether or not they fly here in spaceships. They have nothing to do with Zeta Reticuli.

Their tall thin appearance is like an elongated human in some respects, others have described them as "skeleton men" or "praying mantises" etc. because of the way they hold their arms- and how they flail them out to catch people and animals. I think the insectoid nature comparisons come as well from the almost flickering movements they make- faster than humans would move in the same context- and also because of the inhumanity radiating out from them.
DOH!
Goldfish
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4/20/2009 5:12 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

The Eyes that Spoke
Martin Kottmeyer

In his final book, Aliens from Space (1973), Donald Keyhoe briefly recounted his involvement in starting the investigation of Barney and Betty Hill that eventually led to John Fuller's publication of The Interrupted Journey (1966), the first major work of the alien-abduction mythos. Keyhoe was mystified more than anything else by the hideous faces of the aliens. The heads were oddly shaped with no ears and compressed noses and mouths. Worst of all were the long slanting eyes that extended along the side of the head creating a sinister look. "What caused the subconscious minds of these two people to create these pictures from their imaginations has never been fully explained," he wrote.

Keyhoe could not accept the case 100 percent, he admitted in a 1975 interview, but he did not reject it either. As mysteries go, Keyhoe's question seemed safely rhetorical. Who knows why anyone dreams of one monster and not another? How would anyone even begin to investigate such a problem?

What could not have been foreseen was how serendipity would step in to break this minor mystery. The local PBS station a few years ago decided to rerun the old TV series "The Outer Limits." It was one of the most visually amazing programs of my youth, and I eagerly tuned in to experience once more such sights as the horrifying Zanti misfits, the bee girl, moonstone, Borderland's ionic gale, the downshifting time machine of "Controlled Experiment," and David McCallum's evolution into a megabrain.

The Outer Limits It was during the showing of the "Bellero Shield" episode that I felt the uncanny frisson of deja vu. The eyes of the alien were unusually long and wrapped around the side of the face. It quickly hit me that these eyes were just like the wraparound eyes that were drawn in The Interrupted Journey and the later, more-detailed drawing the Hills did in collaboration with the artist David Baker. Though I couldn't articulate it at that instant, there were other similarities that contributed to the sense of a close relationship: no ears, no hair, no nose, and a cranium shaped like a bullet tilted backwards 45°. I was excited by the possibility of a match, because I was reasonably sure there were few or no other examples of aliens with wraparound eyes in science-fiction cinema. Moments later however my excitement became subdued. It dawned on me that "The Outer Limits" was a series of the mid- sixties and the Hill case dated to the early sixties-1961 or 1962. "The Bellero Shield" couldn't have been an influence. Still, the book came out in 1966. Could the lag be significant? After the program ended, I dug into my library for a round of late-night research. "The Bellero Shield" aired February 10, 1964. The Hills's UFO encounter happened in the morning of September 20, 1961. That probably should have killed the idea of any kind of influence, but the resemblance was just so compelling I couldn't shake the feeling there had to be a relationship. I reread The Interrupted Journey. To my delight I discovered there was no mention of wraparound eyes in the earliest account. Betty's dreams, written down a matter of days after the UFO sighting, mention men with Jimmy Durante noses, dark or black hair and eyes, and a relaxed human appearance that she said was "not frightening." This is all quite different from the final product. The changes emerge in the hypnotic regression with the Hills's psychiatrist, Dr. Simon. The most salient issue was when the wraparound eyes were first described. That turned out to be during a hypnosis session involving Barney Hill dated February 22, 1964. Not only did "The Bellero Shield" precede Barney's first mention of wraparound eyes, it did by only 12 days!

I ordered the script of the show next. My thoughts were so distracted I realized I had missed the dialogue. This yielded additional evidence for the relationship. Judith, played by Sally Kellerman, is conversing with the Bifrost alien and asks it if it can read her mind. It answers, "No, I cannot read your mind. I cannot even understand your language. I analyze your eyes. In all the universes, in all the unities beyond all the universes, all who have eyes have eyes that speak." Judith, intrigued, asks how it speaks her language. It elaborates, "I learn each word just before I speak it. Your eyes teach me."

In saying that all eyes speak, the Bifrost alien is conveying a truth and simultaneously dodging the human/alien language-barrier problem by a unique dab of poetic license.

In the same hypnosis session in which Barney drew the wraparound eyes, there is this exercise in confusion: Yes. They won't talk to me. Only the eyes are talking to me. I-I-I-I don't understand that. Oh-the eyes don't have a body. They're just eyes..." (Interrupted Journey, p. 124). Barney's confusion about the talking eyes is one most viewers probably shared over the writer's gimmick employed by the episode's creators. The notion shared by both texts that eyes can talk defies dismissal via appeal to commonness or coincidence. By any measure, the case for influence here is not just satisfactory, it is exemplary. At least one abduction researcher has granted this point-Thomas Bullard, in "Folkloric Dimensions of the UFO Phenomenon", Journal of UFO Studies #3, 1991, p. 40).

The discovery of this pseudomemory will not shock hypnosis experts. They have long been aware of the danger of confabulation in regression work. There was no reason to expect The Interrupted Journey's narrative to be immune from such contamination. Belatedly, Keyhoe's question thus finds itself answered with the mundane corollary that Barney had watched the science-fiction/horror series The Outer Limits shortly before his subconscious was called upon to imagine what a scary alien ought to look like. Betty Hill's dream aliens were too normal to justify the fear he displayed during the original UFO experience.

Barney's confabulation has other interesting repercussions. As Thomas E. Bullard (UFO Abductions, 1987) has pointed out, "wraparound eyes" is a term that has become common in the abduction literature. Case after case can be pointed to of people describing alien abductors with eyes that wrap, curl, or taper around the head.

Evil Brain from Outer Space This indicates the influential nature of the Hill case on the history of the imagery of abduction experiences. Before the Hills, wraparound eyes seem largely, probably totally, absent in the UFO literature. Cinematic aliens sporting wraparound eyes are similarly largely absent. But not totally. I eventually discovered one other instance. It is an unnamed mutant in Evil Brain from Outer Space, a Japanese film imported in 1964. Interestingly, one of the heads of Projects Unlimited, which provided the monsters for The Outer Limits, was named Wah Ming Chang. He was a talented sculptor and designed most of the head sculpts for the series. This may hint at cultural roots in Eastern myth or kabuki theatre, but I'm not prepared to follow the trail the distance to prove it.

The motif of the speaking eyes did not share in the popularity of the wraparound eyes. There is one example in Edith Fiore's Encounters. The abductee named Victoria describes aliens communicating by simply looking at each other. It is tempting to speculate that the alien bonding practices involving staring described in Secret Life are descended from Barney's talking eyes, but there are many complicating factors like strong hints of Star Trek's Vulcan mind meld and a rich cluster of psychological symbolisms in staring eyes, such as love, intimacy, supervision, contempt, and predators, that seem more rewarding avenues of interpretation. The paucity of speaking eyes probably reflects the poor nature of verbal memory compared with visual memory. The confusing nature of the idea of talking eyes probably doesn't help. It may also be that hideous eyes have a defining role in creating an appropriately paranoia-inspiring iconography. As Keyhoe apparently sensed, they are more believably alien. The eyes say Them.

To the psychosocial theorist, the eyes whisper Us.
About the Author
Martin Kottmeyer lives in Carlyle, Illinois. This article first appeared in the July 1994 issue of REALL News, the Newsletter of the Rational Examination Association of Lincoln Land (REALL).
DOH!
Alcyone
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4/20/2009 4:06 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Marjorie Fish was right??? Are you HIGH?

She made up a star map (with some help) based on NOTHING. It had no relationship to reality, and didn't even closely resemble the original version of Betty Hill's separate version of the alleged shared experience. It wasn't even anecdotal, it was made up out of whole cloth.

And on this single Tolkien-esque mythological element the whole modern Zeta Reticuli industry has been born.

It doesn't resemble a real event or the phemomena of something real. It looks like what it is- cult behaviour carefully farmed and harvested by the NSA. Zeta cultists are one small step away from Heaven's Gate.
:ddtka:
 Quoting: Goldfish


I'm not a "Zeta cultist". But Fish was right, however she got her information.

The Greys come from the Zeta Reticuli system. (Actually, they came from Earth originally, but I'm talking about the present day.) They have also colonized other star systems.
Alcyone
User ID: 644383
United States
4/20/2009 4:19 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Hi Goldfish.

I cannot PM you, but I would be interested in hearing more about your thoughts on the tall, predatory insectoid 'alien' race.

Serious discussion and alot of questions from me if you care to answer them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 660453


There's no such species.

There's no pantheon of color-coded bipedal aliens that each correspond to some terrestrial phylum of life. That's Space Trek. The real universe doesn't work that way.
Alcyone
User ID: 644383
United States
4/20/2009 4:27 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

The Eyes that Spoke
Martin Kottmeyer

In his final book, Aliens from Space (1973), Donald Keyhoe briefly recounted his involvement in starting the investigation of Barney and Betty Hill that eventually led to John Fuller's publication of The Interrupted Journey (1966), the first major work of the alien-abduction mythos. Keyhoe was mystified more than anything else by the hideous faces of the aliens. The heads were oddly shaped with no ears and compressed noses and mouths. Worst of all were the long slanting eyes that extended along the side of the head creating a sinister look. "What caused the subconscious minds of these two people to create these pictures from their imaginations has never been fully explained," he wrote.

Keyhoe could not accept the case 100 percent, he admitted in a 1975 interview, but he did not reject it either. As mysteries go, Keyhoe's question seemed safely rhetorical. Who knows why anyone dreams of one monster and not another? How would anyone even begin to investigate such a problem?

What could not have been foreseen was how serendipity would step in to break this minor mystery. The local PBS station a few years ago decided to rerun the old TV series "The Outer Limits." It was one of the most visually amazing programs of my youth, and I eagerly tuned in to experience once more such sights as the horrifying Zanti misfits, the bee girl, moonstone, Borderland's ionic gale, the downshifting time machine of "Controlled Experiment," and David McCallum's evolution into a megabrain.

The Outer Limits It was during the showing of the "Bellero Shield" episode that I felt the uncanny frisson of deja vu. The eyes of the alien were unusually long and wrapped around the side of the face. It quickly hit me that these eyes were just like the wraparound eyes that were drawn in The Interrupted Journey and the later, more-detailed drawing the Hills did in collaboration with the artist David Baker. Though I couldn't articulate it at that instant, there were other similarities that contributed to the sense of a close relationship: no ears, no hair, no nose, and a cranium shaped like a bullet tilted backwards 45°. I was excited by the possibility of a match, because I was reasonably sure there were few or no other examples of aliens with wraparound eyes in science-fiction cinema. Moments later however my excitement became subdued. It dawned on me that "The Outer Limits" was a series of the mid- sixties and the Hill case dated to the early sixties-1961 or 1962. "The Bellero Shield" couldn't have been an influence. Still, the book came out in 1966. Could the lag be significant? After the program ended, I dug into my library for a round of late-night research. "The Bellero Shield" aired February 10, 1964. The Hills's UFO encounter happened in the morning of September 20, 1961. That probably should have killed the idea of any kind of influence, but the resemblance was just so compelling I couldn't shake the feeling there had to be a relationship. I reread The Interrupted Journey. To my delight I discovered there was no mention of wraparound eyes in the earliest account. Betty's dreams, written down a matter of days after the UFO sighting, mention men with Jimmy Durante noses, dark or black hair and eyes, and a relaxed human appearance that she said was "not frightening." This is all quite different from the final product. The changes emerge in the hypnotic regression with the Hills's psychiatrist, Dr. Simon. The most salient issue was when the wraparound eyes were first described. That turned out to be during a hypnosis session involving Barney Hill dated February 22, 1964. Not only did "The Bellero Shield" precede Barney's first mention of wraparound eyes, it did by only 12 days!

I ordered the script of the show next. My thoughts were so distracted I realized I had missed the dialogue. This yielded additional evidence for the relationship. Judith, played by Sally Kellerman, is conversing with the Bifrost alien and asks it if it can read her mind. It answers, "No, I cannot read your mind. I cannot even understand your language. I analyze your eyes. In all the universes, in all the unities beyond all the universes, all who have eyes have eyes that speak." Judith, intrigued, asks how it speaks her language. It elaborates, "I learn each word just before I speak it. Your eyes teach me."

In saying that all eyes speak, the Bifrost alien is conveying a truth and simultaneously dodging the human/alien language-barrier problem by a unique dab of poetic license.

In the same hypnosis session in which Barney drew the wraparound eyes, there is this exercise in confusion: Yes. They won't talk to me. Only the eyes are talking to me. I-I-I-I don't understand that. Oh-the eyes don't have a body. They're just eyes..." (Interrupted Journey, p. 124). Barney's confusion about the talking eyes is one most viewers probably shared over the writer's gimmick employed by the episode's creators. The notion shared by both texts that eyes can talk defies dismissal via appeal to commonness or coincidence. By any measure, the case for influence here is not just satisfactory, it is exemplary. At least one abduction researcher has granted this point-Thomas Bullard, in "Folkloric Dimensions of the UFO Phenomenon", Journal of UFO Studies #3, 1991, p. 40).

The discovery of this pseudomemory will not shock hypnosis experts. They have long been aware of the danger of confabulation in regression work. There was no reason to expect The Interrupted Journey's narrative to be immune from such contamination. Belatedly, Keyhoe's question thus finds itself answered with the mundane corollary that Barney had watched the science-fiction/horror series The Outer Limits shortly before his subconscious was called upon to imagine what a scary alien ought to look like. Betty Hill's dream aliens were too normal to justify the fear he displayed during the original UFO experience.

Barney's confabulation has other interesting repercussions. As Thomas E. Bullard (UFO Abductions, 1987) has pointed out, "wraparound eyes" is a term that has become common in the abduction literature. Case after case can be pointed to of people describing alien abductors with eyes that wrap, curl, or taper around the head.

Evil Brain from Outer Space This indicates the influential nature of the Hill case on the history of the imagery of abduction experiences. Before the Hills, wraparound eyes seem largely, probably totally, absent in the UFO literature. Cinematic aliens sporting wraparound eyes are similarly largely absent. But not totally. I eventually discovered one other instance. It is an unnamed mutant in Evil Brain from Outer Space, a Japanese film imported in 1964. Interestingly, one of the heads of Projects Unlimited, which provided the monsters for The Outer Limits, was named Wah Ming Chang. He was a talented sculptor and designed most of the head sculpts for the series. This may hint at cultural roots in Eastern myth or kabuki theatre, but I'm not prepared to follow the trail the distance to prove it.

The motif of the speaking eyes did not share in the popularity of the wraparound eyes. There is one example in Edith Fiore's Encounters. The abductee named Victoria describes aliens communicating by simply looking at each other. It is tempting to speculate that the alien bonding practices involving staring described in Secret Life are descended from Barney's talking eyes, but there are many complicating factors like strong hints of Star Trek's Vulcan mind meld and a rich cluster of psychological symbolisms in staring eyes, such as love, intimacy, supervision, contempt, and predators, that seem more rewarding avenues of interpretation. The paucity of speaking eyes probably reflects the poor nature of verbal memory compared with visual memory. The confusing nature of the idea of talking eyes probably doesn't help. It may also be that hideous eyes have a defining role in creating an appropriately paranoia-inspiring iconography. As Keyhoe apparently sensed, they are more believably alien. The eyes say Them.

To the psychosocial theorist, the eyes whisper Us.
About the Author
Martin Kottmeyer lives in Carlyle, Illinois. This article first appeared in the July 1994 issue of REALL News, the Newsletter of the Rational Examination Association of Lincoln Land (REALL).
 Quoting: Goldfish


This is probably in my briefing material somewhere. I'll check and report back with anything I find.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 657331
United States
4/20/2009 4:28 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Real creatures from Mars- cover them up with Zeta Reticulan bullshit.

Real inside job on 9/11-- cover it up with no planes bullshit and the rest of the crap.

Real signs in the sky-- cover it up with chemtrails bullshit.


That's how.

WHY?

Because when the bullshit is "debunked", the reality is not even involved- the reality is effectively covered up by an entirely false intellectual struggle which is totally false at its heart. Just the way the NWO likes it.

WAKE UP WHILE YOU CAN

 Quoting: Goldfish

Take out the creaturess from mars part and you would be spot on.
Jackinthebox
User ID: 655557
United States
4/20/2009 4:34 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

You're a friggin' nutcase Goldfish. chuckle

Cool video man. Cheers.
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.

Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"


-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
aonomous beleaver
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4/20/2009 6:06 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Isn't the I in C.I.A dis-information? whistle
Goldfish
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Australia
4/20/2009 10:01 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

You're a friggin' nutcase Goldfish. chuckle

Cool video man. Cheers.
 Quoting: Jackinthebox


I live to give. :)


DOH!
Goldfish
User ID: 657168
Australia
4/21/2009 6:57 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

Real creatures from Mars- cover them up with Zeta Reticulan bullshit.

Real inside job on 9/11-- cover it up with no planes bullshit and the rest of the crap.

Real signs in the sky-- cover it up with chemtrails bullshit.


That's how.

WHY?

Because when the bullshit is "debunked", the reality is not even involved- the reality is effectively covered up by an entirely false intellectual struggle which is totally false at its heart. Just the way the NWO likes it.

WAKE UP WHILE YOU CAN



Take out the creaturess from mars part and you would be spot on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657331


I used to think that. Then I met my first Martian.
DOH!
Skeptic the First
User ID: 657072
United States
4/21/2009 7:02 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

"In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
 Quoting: Goldfish

Ironically, our cowardly American Congress long ago ceded its constitutional authority to the Emperor/President.
Mercuriel™ Subscriber
Finaliter
User ID: 342233
Canada
4/21/2009 7:07 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

And the Greys aren't tall, or insectoid, and they don't eat humans. In fact they don't really eat anything. They just drink this weird soupy nutrient solution.
 Quoting: Alcyone 644383


Uhhhmmm - There are many types of Greys, some small and more Humanoid like Us while there are others that are larger and kind of Insectoid/Mantis looking.

At any rate - Some Greys DO eat Humans (The Malignant ones that is). Its just not in the literal sense that They eat Humans.

Body Parts are liquified in solution and then some Greys immerse Themselves in that solution thereby absorbing the protein through the skin by bathing in It. Thats Your "weird soupy nutrient solution" that They consume...

hf

Last Edited by Mercuriel™ on 4/21/2009 at 7:10 AM
Peace, Light, Life, Love, Unity and Harmony.

Namaste,

Mercuriel
Goldfish
User ID: 657168
Australia
4/21/2009 8:15 AM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

"In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
Ironically, our cowardly American Congress long ago ceded its constitutional authority to the Emperor/President.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First 657072


EXACTLY.

But hey- let's keep arguing over nonexistent aliens whilst the real ones prey on our kids.
DOH!
Alcyone
User ID: 644383
United States
4/21/2009 12:02 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

And the Greys aren't tall, or insectoid, and they don't eat humans. In fact they don't really eat anything. They just drink this weird soupy nutrient solution.

Uhhhmmm - There are many types of Greys, some small and more Humanoid like Us while there are others that are larger and kind of Insectoid/Mantis looking.

At any rate - Some Greys DO eat Humans (The Malignant ones that is). Its just not in the literal sense that They eat Humans.

Body Parts are liquified in solution and then some Greys immerse Themselves in that solution thereby absorbing the protein through the skin by bathing in It. Thats Your "weird soupy nutrient solution" that They consume...

hf
 Quoting: Mercuriel™


All Greys look the same. They're like clones.

What you said about Greys eating liquified human body parts is just horror fiction stuff. The liquid that makes up their diet is synthesized from pure chemicals. It doesn't even contain proteins. And they don't absorb it through their skin, they drink it.
Goldfish
User ID: 657168
Australia
4/21/2009 9:17 PM
Re: Hide and Reveal-- ancient Japanese puzzle game. Also the most favorite tactic of the intellectuals of the CIAQuote

And the Greys aren't tall, or insectoid, and they don't eat humans. In fact they don't really eat anything. They just drink this weird soupy nutrient solution.

Uhhhmmm - There are many types of Greys, some small and more Humanoid like Us while there are others that are larger and kind of Insectoid/Mantis looking.

At any rate - Some Greys DO eat Humans (The Malignant ones that is). Its just not in the literal sense that They eat Humans.

Body Parts are liquified in solution and then some Greys immerse Themselves in that solution thereby absorbing the protein through the skin by bathing in It. Thats Your "weird soupy nutrient solution" that They consume...

hf


All Greys look the same. They're like clones.

What you said about Greys eating liquified human body parts is just horror fiction stuff. The liquid that makes up their diet is synthesized from pure chemicals. It doesn't even contain proteins. And they don't absorb it through their skin, they drink it.
 Quoting: Alcyone 644383


Do you know as much about Battlestar Galactica or Star Wars as you do about THIS science fiction?

Where is the proof? Seriously. There isn't any.

The only "entities" filmed or photographed don't look enough like "greys" (and in fact aren't even grey!) to count. And the nazi labs type stuff features humans, not aliens, as one would expect.
DOH!
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