the census bureau is coming to your front door/GPS *UPDATE* 5/1 The American Community Survey.

I saw my census worker coming down the street, so I met him at the end of my driveway with a shotgun on my shoulder. He didn't set foot on my property. Guess that's as accurate a GPS reading as he's going to get.

cmon, seriously....think here.

That's weird. Just this morning I saw a member of the census bureau walking down my street. He had a bag that said 'US Census Bureau' and a little sign in his truck that said 'Official Business'. I didn't notice him carrying any GPS unit though.

If the Constitution says they can only do this every ten years, why are they here in 2009? They are already breaking the law.

Was there not a thread here just a week or so ago wherein the OP stated that the census dudes were in the RV park he happened to be in?

On a completely irrelevant note ...... HI PHENOM !!! :)

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This old bag named Marge Beasley stalked me for weeks.Finally she caught me walking out the front door.So we sat on the porch for my "interview" My address had been selected for the crime survey.Questions like,had I ever been raped by a household member,etc.She came back every year for 4 years,until I moved.Made her earn her money every time.My wife screwed up and mentioned some perv at the grocery store groped her,and it turned into a 5 page Q&A.FAQ sheet had the same misleading statements about the law requires response,but then said compliance was voluntary.Lyin' liars.

The reason I got (about a week ago) was that the census agency just wanted the homeowner to know that the agency was "mapping the area". I watched through the window as he walked away, and he did indeed push buttons on what looked like a hand-held GPS unit at the driveway of every home.

Just tell them you speaka no englesh.

I passed a parked "census" car this morning. The dumbass had parked half on the road and was causing a traffic backup. Oh joy.

on my street they skipped every other house. Hardly anything different than last time they did it. It didn't seem strange to me and I watch for stuff like that.

We recently had the property tax people by also. They came by our house walked around for 1 minute and raised the value of our house by $10,000 (To raise property taxes)

If justice ruled this country they would have lowered everyone's property tax because the values of everyone's homes have fallen.

Oh, well good.

See there Duncan, at least they won't accidentally fry your neighbor by accident next time.

at 1115am i got back from the volunteer agency im affiliated with. in it the others were posting the census hiring flyers.
i gave my colleagues the digest version re this

I still don't trust this GPS stuff.

This is exactly the kind of thing a certain minority group should be going nuts about, because in nazi germany, the census data was a shopping list, that with IBM's help they knew exactly who they needed to get into the 'camps'.

this stuff isn't for our own good, that is for sure.

this was on this morning - the show is over BUT the gcn usually rebroadcasts/repeats the shows later. look for

the power hour rerun in gcn's lineup


The Power Hour, and they are doing the GPS of your front, or main doo
TUESDAY - APRIL 21 - DOUBLE FEATURE:
This show is on now!
JANE LESKO reports on the US Census Bureau going door-to-door, nationwide, to place YOUR front door "coordinates" into a Global Positioning System (GPS) for marking/mapping purposes; without your consent - and if you are not home - without your knowledge. Now, why does anyone need GPS Coordinates on every front door in America? Who is really doing this? What good reason can they possibly have for such an expensive project? Listen to this interview and find out.

*Related Article: Big Brother At Your Front Door: Recording GPS Coordinates
* Links of Interest from the Idaho Eagle Forum Message
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Click on Live..pick 2

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footnotes from J galts forum who listened to this show live


I think this show is so important for Americans, I will post it again when it loops later in the day. Hmmm..The need for a GPS..foreign troops perhaps! I heard this on the program! If you have a P.O Box, no matter, they will come to your home for that GPS. They want this done by mid-July! If you call your sheriff, no matter, Federal proceeds all!
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Big Brother At Your Front Door: Recording GPS Coordinates

Last week, a friend from northern Idaho called me and said that the Census Bureau was sending out people to get the GPS coordinates for every front door in the United States. She found out about it when a person showed up at her front door with a handheld computer and she told her what she was doing. The day before my friend called, a Census Bureau representative had been at my front door also - but all she told me was that she was verifying addresses. I had no idea that she was GPS marking my front door.
The phone call was followed-up with an email alert and a second alert.

This email is the second one -

I've had people question if this e-mail is a hoax. It is not!

This was sent out by Idaho Eagle Forum's State President, Jane Lesko and was also heard on Jack McLamb's radio program Friday April 10, 2009.

I will add to this that the Boise U.S. Census Bureau said that this requirement was coming from the U.S. Department of Commerce. Also I will add a quote from a write-up from the U.S. Census Bureau, "The ability to capture GPS coordinates for most of the nation's housing units will greatly reduce the number of geographic coding errors caused by using paper maps in previous counts."
The issue of recording GPS coordinates of your front door was also discussed for a few minutes on the Greg Everson program on Republic Broadcasting Network (RBN) on Saturday and Jane was a guest on the Jack McLamb program again on his Sunday program on RBN.

The Michael Baker Jr. Corporation was given the contract to collect the GPS coordinates. More information on this company and the contract will be found below the email alert.



Alert!--- U.S. Census Bureau to GPS every front door in America.
April 11, 2009

A few days ago a women showed up at my front door (way out in the country) saying that she worked for the U.S. Census Bureau and she was going to GPS my front door. She stated that she did not know why they would want to do this since everyone in America already has a GPS address. (GPS, global positioning system, the satellite has a location and picture of your property) The women also said that her supervisor told them that they could climb locked gates with "NO TRESPASSING" signs on them.

I was told they are hired to do this in three months, she was not taking a census until next year, and it was needed to make sure that everyone receives the census mail-out next year, 2010.

NOTE: The truth is that the U.S. Census Bureau is doing an Address Canvassing Operation using GPS- equipped handheld computers to GPS every front door of homes, apartments, converted garages, homeless shelters, and anything they believe that someone might live in, in America, so that the Bureau can send every household a Census Questionnaire in March of 2010. (There are other people we have spoken to who believe that the GPS front doors of America may be used for MILITARY purposes and that this is a violation of privacy. They want the exact location of your front door.)

I called the U.S. Census Bureau in Boise (for Idaho) 208-319-3341 and asked by what authority and law was the U.S. Census Bureau using to GPS every front door. I was told that they were allowed by some federal law and that they would get back to me.

A friend called me and was mad because one of these census takers was roaming around at their garbage transfer station and trespassing. One of her employees told the census taker to get off their land that he was trespassing. The census taker said that there were three residences on that land. The employee told him that no one lives out there. The owner called the sheriff's office. I told the owner to call the U.S. Census Bureau office in Boise to complain. When she called them she told them that she was going to file a trespassing charge and the man at the office said that nothing would come of it because Federal trumps State. They sent her Sec. 223, Title 13, U.S. Code, Chapter 7, Subtitle 2. This explains the penalties for refusing to provide names and statistics of occupants when asked for by a census taker. This only applies when they are taking a census. The census will not be taken until next year 2010. The penalty for refusing to answer questions for a census is up to $500.00.

GPS-ing front doors is not taking a census and is not even mentioned in the section of law they hide behind to allow them to do this.

Contact your State and Federal Legislators and complain about this intrusion of America's privacy. Every front door in America is being GPS-ed even as this e-mail is being sent out!!!

Please pray for the safety of America!!!

-----Idaho Eagle Forum




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Census Information

GPS Address Coordinates - Press Release

2010 - Census Re-engineering

The re-engineered 2010 Census consists of three highly integrated activities designed to dramatically improve upon an already very good Census 2000. We will accomplish this by taking advantage of opportunities for innovations made possible through the expanded use of technology and the targeting of coverage-improvement procedures that will enable the Census Bureau to:

1. Improve the relevance of census long-form data
2. Reduce operational risk
3. Improve the accuracy of census coverage, and
4. Contain costs.

The three integrated components are:

1. Collect and tabulate long-form data every year throughout the decade through a large household survey (The American Community Survey).

2. Enhance and improve our existing address lists and GIS database (TIGER) system by bringing them into alignment with true GPS coordinates and converting our TIGER to a COTS database environment.

3. A program of early planning, development and testing designed to completely restructure the management and conduct of a short-form-only census in 2010. That will further reduce the differential undercount measured since the 1940s without resorting to statistical adjustment and will provide the savings needed to support this initiative.

Adopting the ACS as the planned replacement for the census long-form will allow the short-form-only census to focus more directly on meeting the legally mandated collection and issuance of the apportionment and redistricting data. This will transfer to the ACS the responsibility to provide estimates of detailed demographic and housing data throughout the decade. This more timely and therefore more relevant data will greatly enhance the information currently provided by the once-in-a-decade long form.

An updated master address file (MAF) and an accompanying improved TIGER database, with GPS positional accuracy, will allow the Census Bureau to maintain the inventory and location of addresses and features. In addition, we will greatly expand our ability to improve the accuracy and completeness of our census GIS systems that process these data. These MAF/TIGER enhancements are key to allowing the Census Bureau to adopt the technology necessary to fully utilize GPS-equipped, hand-held mobile computing devices to find, interview and update data on persons and housing units for the short-form-only census in 2010 thereby, achieving the Census Bureau's constitutionally mandated objectives at a greatly reduced cost. MORE...



Why would they want to GPS your front door? How about this as a reason:

"We went into Iraq looking for a deck of cards. We’re just here for the bad guys - please go about your business. We don’t fight militaries any more. We don’t fight nation states. We call it interstate war when the U.S. comes in as a leader of a coalition to take down a few bad actors. It is such an abuse of the phrase. When I got into this business the standard was 8 to 9 minute response to Soviet nuclear launching of attack. Within a couple of years our standard is going to be a UAV, unmanned aerial vehicle operating on the far side of the earth. It is going to find, recognize and kill one person in 8-9 minutes." Thomas Barnett, Military in the 21st Century, Page 7

Military unit assigned domestic role to "quell disturbances" under the control of Northern Command

Obama's Jugend will descend...marinated in the disenfranchisement of the urban experience....thhey jay take your akereo if they feel they were deprived of appropriate stereo opportunities in life due to lack of multiculturalism; and if you do not cooperate....they will pull out a 9 and cap yo' ass or return after dark and do a driveby. I can't wait to met the promising young future aparrachiks depicted on that now-famous Youtube vidoe showing the fat kid leading them in their rudimentary practice for goosestepping though the rubble. Jahwohl! Mien Obamaunken!

OMG, they'll chip the car tags.

I'll bet they entered a little 911 code beside your GPS coordinates signaling armed combatant! Be careful around these people. If you act suspicious, it can only work against you.

its already in the ez-passes

That is what we should be building in the woods or desert so that the vanishing true Americans will have a place to hide from the Mexican invasion, the exploding victim inner city population and whoever else, gays, PETA, Spaniards?, leprechauns? or whoever wants to f*ck us over next! Why don't they go look at all those places deep under NY NY et al old tunnels, pipelines, etc. They could find a m illion more victims to kkeep voting for their check er uh I mean the incumbent whores after that!

Already had some goofball walking down my street with a little box standing in peoples front yards taking down locations. Saw him in my yard cause the dog went nuts...good puppy!...lol....she is weighing about 70lbs and has a good bark goin and is starting to feel protective and is proud of herself when she barks it up on a space invader...lol.....so we go outside and the dude says he's from the census and is logging in GPS locs...bye, smile, wave...he was done I guess....looked like a Meter reader and was trotting off down the road. Now my neighborhood it's pretty easy to see all the front doors as you walk on down the road....and all SF dwellings...so it was probably an easy one to do...just like lots of neighborhoods are and a lot are probably already done and people wouldn't even know it...we wouldn't have if the dog hadn't alerted and we pretty much confront everyone we don't know as most of the denisons in my little hood does...

Here is the purpose of the 2010 Census...to ensure Demorat power by redistricting...and of course this will be the most accurate and scientific Census ever taken because the Mighty Obama used High-Tech Global Sattelite locationator stuff....so when all them districts get reAcorned into strong Dem districts it'll be the very first high-tech and accurate count taken since the year 1800. Yes Virgina there is a Santa Claus and No Utah you are not going to gain a Representative....

they'll just drive up to my door and scan for passport chips via satellite i recon...

They just GPS'd my mom's house this morning.

when they come by here, im gonna moon them .

The guy who came to my house a month or so ago to check on the questionaire that the 'HOUSE" received that my girlfriend threw away already knows that as I had 2 1911-A1s lying on the end table. I guess I am on the " radical conservative conspriator who has lirarms lying around with which to oppress those of more diverse nature than him" list. I only lived there since mid-Nov. I use them- the 19911A1s at work-like I have to 'splain it to anybody and actually I did not. he was a wizened lil gnome looking guy...nice but I wished I had not answered the door., he did not seem bothered and i remember in 200 the lady who came to my house got a got of "I do't think that is the Federal Government's business" answers. I heard that they are going to average out rent and if you pay 800 a month while others around you average 100 then you will be taxed on that 400 dollars less you pay thatn the average in your area....communism at work; thanks to the absolutle igununt voters of 'humerika.....

Confirmed.

Saw them on my street Saturday, I left.

Like all I have to do is walk into your yard with my own private GPS device and simply record its data linked to your street or 911 address... anyone can do it.

Its no biggy anyways as this stuff can be done by space craft anyways... and aircraft So what is the alarm here?

You all act like every square meter of planet Earth has not already been photographed by either aircraft or spacecraft. What you see on Google Earth is vastly reduced in resolution and not at all real time, the real time tech has existed for a couple of decades already.

Goto a car with GPS in it? Got a cellphone with GPS in it in your pocket? Then they have the possibility of a target lock on you personally as you go walking around your house, yard, or driving down the street, at the mall etc. Target lock... on wonders what happens with one of this anti ballistic missile LASERS is used to target and strike a given set GPS coordinates, and it is you, sitting on the couch at home infront of your TV with your cell phone in your shirt pocket.

What good will the gps do once the satellites are pulverized out of the sky within the next 5 years?

Hmmm...I've never been visited by census people.