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US & Netherlands Agreement: Digital IDs make clearing customs easier via Imbedded Eye Image to Verify Identity

 
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US & Netherlands Agreement: Digital IDs make clearing customs easier via Imbedded Eye Image to Verify Identity
Digital IDs make clearing customs easier.

WASHINGTON — For the first time, U.S. travelers flying overseas may avoid customs lines at a foreign airport by swiping a digital ID card.

An agreement Thursday between the Homeland Security Department and the Netherlands allows approved U.S. citizens to speed through customs checks at Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport.

Dutch citizens clearing a Homeland Security background check can do the same arriving at some U.S. airports, including New York's John F. Kennedy International and Los Angeles International.

The ID cards are embedded with an image of the traveler's eye that is used to verify his identity.

Industry groups say the program will encourage travel to the USA by reducing the hassles of clearing customs

U.S. officials are in talks to begin programs with the United Kingdom, Germany and Australia, said John Wagner, who runs the program for Homeland Security.

About 4.5 million U.K. visitors came to the U.S. last year, ranking third behind Canada and Mexico, government figures show. The Netherlands ranked 13th, with 600,000 visitors to the U.S.

"We fully intend to make this a global network," Wagner said.

[link to www.usatoday.com]

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Here we go...

Thanks for posting, Phennomm!!!
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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Thanks for posting, Phennomm!!!
 Quoting: refugee13


embedded with an image of the traveler's eye

thats how theyre selling the lie: to make it easier to pass thru customs.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Here we go...

Thanks for posting, Phennomm!!!


branding the cattle.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

I have an ex mother in law who travels the world extensively...I wonder if she'll fall for it...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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Thanks for posting, Phennomm!!!


branding the cattle.

I have an ex mother in law who travels the world extensively...I wonder if she'll fall for it...
 Quoting: refugee13


i wouldnt renew our passports nor the ezpass/turnpike when i found out they had RFID in them
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Why the eye ,when a thumb print is just as effective? Because the eye reveals more than just identity.So there is a wider agenda being put in place.
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Not to get off subject but there chipping clothes etc.
Seems like big bro wants to know everything.
as far as this eye pass-its not the mark--but its coming
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Why the eye ,when a thumb print is just as effective? Because the eye reveals more than just identity.So there is a wider agenda being put in place.
 Quoting: bubba 663412


i dunno but eye scans have been rumored for years on the net as part of this nwo plan. even on youtube.

a school in lancaster is having opposition right now over kids having to use thumb print scans re lunch accounts next year/september.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
VIDEO: [link to youtu.be]

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Not to get off subject but there chipping clothes etc.
Seems like big bro wants to know everything.
as far as this eye pass-its not the mark--but its coming
 Quoting: True Prophet 272605


youre right i forgot about that. i think they implemented this when? 2007?
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Here we go...

Thanks for posting, Phennomm!!!


branding the cattle.

I have an ex mother in law who travels the world extensively...I wonder if she'll fall for it...


i wouldnt renew our passports nor the ezpass/turnpike when i found out they had RFID in them
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

good choice in my opinion, and, that made me remember she lives in FL and uses a turnpike pass all the time, but I dont know if they have implemented that on the passes yet...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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Not to get off subject but there chipping clothes etc.
Seems like big bro wants to know everything.
as far as this eye pass-its not the mark--but its coming


youre right i forgot about that. i think they implemented this when? 2007?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

What's this??? I havent heard about it...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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The iris reveals things like drug or medication use,past and present,and is the window to the soul.This is a violation.
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Not to get off subject but there chipping clothes etc.
Seems like big bro wants to know everything.
as far as this eye pass-its not the mark--but its coming
 Quoting: True Prophet 272605

I've got a chip on my shoulder,BTW
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Not to get off subject but there chipping clothes etc.
Seems like big bro wants to know everything.
as far as this eye pass-its not the mark--but its coming


youre right i forgot about that. i think they implemented this when? 2007?

What's this??? I havent heard about it...
 Quoting: refugee13


RFID tags: Big Brother in small packages - CNET News
[link to www.google.com]

Levi's puts RFID tags in clothes
[link to www.google.com]
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Every closed eye is not sleeping, and every open eye is not seeing
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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OMG. Soon we will be chipped.
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The iris reveals things like drug or medication use,past and present,and is the window to the soul.This is a violation.
 Quoting: bubba 663412

no shit. im not partaking. i wont use air travel anymore.
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The universe responds NOT to what you want.....it responds to what you are being.......are you being what you want?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
the karma cafe has no menus. you get served what you deserve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Visit The Official GLP Store
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Wow, thanks for that...I haven't seen any of those up here yet in Michigan...will be on the watch now...
"Livin' The Dream..."

"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

"So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..."

"Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..."

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The iris reveals things like drug or medication use,past and present,and is the window to the soul.This is a violation.

no shit. im not partaking. i wont use air travel anymore.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

I had my dog micro-chipped 6 years ago, was that a bad thing to do???
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Wow, thanks for that...I haven't seen any of those up here yet in Michigan...will be on the watch now...
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its by brand you wouldnt even know theyre in your cloths. right now i think theyre just used for theft. dont quote me tho as i havent read any followups on this.
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The iris reveals things like drug or medication use,past and present,and is the window to the soul.This is a violation.

no shit. im not partaking. i wont use air travel anymore.

I had my dog micro-chipped 6 years ago, was that a bad thing to do???
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yes bc they know who the owner is....you.
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The iris reveals things like drug or medication use,past and present,and is the window to the soul.This is a violation.

no shit. im not partaking. i wont use air travel anymore.

I had my dog micro-chipped 6 years ago, was that a bad thing to do???


yes bc they know who the owner is....you.
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shit...
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"Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more"

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No.Your dog depends on you to protect him if he is lost.Humans on the other hand,are entitled to free will /free spirit.
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The iris reveals things like drug or medication use,past and present,and is the window to the soul.This is a violation.

no shit. im not partaking. i wont use air travel anymore.

I had my dog micro-chipped 6 years ago, was that a bad thing to do???


yes bc they know who the owner is....you.

shit...
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good luck in tryn to find a vet who will remove it too. my boy got a dog from the humane society. my spouse was with him and duh'd out when they told him. its not like they couldve refused, you dont get a dog unless its chipped. i hadda run around calling every vet to see who would remove this. one threatened to call the humane society on me. wasnt an easy feat. lotsa opposition. finally found an old italian vet and played the roman catholic card chuckle
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Wow, thanks for that...I haven't seen any of those up here yet in Michigan...will be on the watch now...


its by brand you wouldnt even know theyre in your cloths. right now i think theyre just used for theft. dont quote me tho as i havent read any followups on this.
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In clothing and personal goods,yes inventory,checkout and anti-theft are legitimate uses,but items known to be in your posession can be used to track you or identify you by sinister people.
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Wow, thanks for that...I haven't seen any of those up here yet in Michigan...will be on the watch now...


its by brand you wouldnt even know theyre in your cloths. right now i think theyre just used for theft. dont quote me tho as i havent read any followups on this.

In clothing and personal goods,yes inventory,checkout and anti-theft are legitimate uses,but items known to be in your posession can be used to track you or identify you by sinister people.
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thanks bubba for the clarification.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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The Eyes Have It
By Sean Henahan, Access Excellence (from 2002)

Amsterdam - Security systems that scan the iris of your eye may soon help speed you through those long lines at the airport.

Following the events of September 11th, there has been increased emphasis on improving security while minimizing inconvenience to travelers. Iris recognition systems would seem to fit the bill. Such systems are now in limited use at several airports in Europe and the United States.

These systems take advantage of random variations in the visible features the iris, the colored ring around the pupil. After a traveler has his iris scanned once, a unique file is placed in a database. Subsequently, the traveler simply looks at a suitably equipped camera that scans and checks the iris in little more than one second.

Amsterdam Airport Schiphol began using its automated border passage system in October 2001. That system combines iris recognition technology and an advanced smart card. It is the first of its kind to use iris recognition to secure border control. New enhancements to the system will extend its functions to include ticketing, check in, screening and boarding. Schiphol will also use an iris recognition system behind the scenes to provide secure access to restricted areas.

An iris recognition system is also being evaluated at London's Heathrow airport. Frequent transatlantic travelers on British Airways and Virgin now use the EyeTicket Jetstream system to speed them through passport control at the world's busiest airport. The system is similar to that in use at Schiphol. A similar system is in place in Germany's Frankfurt Airport. While the North American experience has so far been limited to the Charlotte/Douglas International Airport, plans are now underway to install similar systems at JFK in New York, Dulles in Washington, DC and at 14 international airports in Canada.

Iris scanning takes advantage of random variations in the visible features the iris, the colored part of the eye. The iris consists largely of a system of muscle that expand and contract the pupil in response to changing lighting conditions. The details of each iris are phenotypically unique, that is, no two are exactly alike, not even among twins, not even in your own two eyes. The structure of the iris develops in the embryo, assuming its lifelong character by the seventh or eighth month. Some color changes can occur in the first months of life, which explains why some babies who are born with blue eyes may end up with brown or some other color.

After taking a picture of the eye, the system samples the radial and angular variations of each individual iris to form an IrisCode, a digital file that serves as a reference in database. At 512 bytes, the file is quite small, since it is a hexadecimal code reference rather than an actual iris image. Research confirms an extraordinarily high level of statistical reliability for the system.

A person using the system simply looks into a camera. The computer program then locates the iris. Next, the system locates the iris' outer and inner edges. The monochrome camera uses both visible and infrared (700-900nm) light. The program maps segments of the iris into hundreds of vectors. Position, orientation and spatial frequency provide the basis for calculation of the IrisCode. The system also manages to take into account normal changes in the eye. For example, the system compensates for papillary expansion and contraction. It can also detect reflections from the cornea.

Is there any way to fool the system? Researchers attempted to do this by creating contact lenses with irides printed on them. The system had no trouble spotting the fakes. Some of the newer drug treatments for glaucoma include changes in iris pigmentation among their side effects. This should not be a problem since iris recognition systems rely on monochrome images, the developers say.

Iris recognition technology is finding its way into many aspects of everyday life. England's Nationwide Building Society (a bank), for example, replaced PIN numbers with iris recognition at its ATM machines in 1998. The systems now form part of many building access systems in government and industry. More recently, products have become available to screen computer network users and to provide secure online transactions. Any application for which you currently use a password could soon require a quick look at your eye instead.

Identifying the Mystery Woman - image below
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Iris recognition systems are also finding unexpected applications. The best know example involved using iris recognition to confirm the identification of a mysterious young Afghan woman originally photographed by Nation Geographic photographer Steve McCurry in 1984. Some 18 years later, McCurry photographed Sharbat Gula in Afghanistan. At the behest of National Geographic, Dr. John Daugman, developer of the iris recognition system, then compared the irides in the photographs using his algorithms. He concluded that the eyes were a match.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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If they are going to do this globally for airports, then we have to consider that all travel will follow this like buses, trains, tolls, subways, bridges and borders. There will be no getting around it.
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everything they do they have a way of twisting the reasons why.

they will use terrorism as a fear factor tool,identity theft as another, the lost/kidnapped, death, children, elderly & mentally ill.

pppl are to brain washed to see beyond the weasel words.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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If they are going to do this globally for airports, then we have to consider that all travel will follow this like buses, trains, tolls, subways, bridges and borders. There will be no getting around it.
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theyre GPS'ing houses (ref census) RealID is coming soon to a state near you. are you willing to be 'branded cattle'?
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Re: US & Netherlands Agreement: Digital IDs make clearing customs easier via Imbedded Eye Image to Verify Identity
oh well... my country is known to be usa's lapdog.

if usa ask the netherland jump, the netherlands ask how high. etc.

im not sure why this is but i believe it has something to do with a huge debt we have to the usa.

which emerged after WW2 when usa "helped" lots of europian country to rebuild. (ie, lots of europian countries are still paying the debt since then).

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