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Individualism vs. Collectivism: The TRUE debate of our time.

 
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P1. The Nature and Origin of Human Rights
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P2. Group Supremacy
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As an Individualist I oppose all Collectivism.

I follow Rothbardian Libertarianism.

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P3. Coercion vs Freedom
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P5. Proper role of Government
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Any fair government must be individualist. You can choose to be a collectivist in your personal life, BUT IT MUST BE VOLUNTARY to be worth anything.
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Any fair government must be individualist. You can choose to be a collectivist in your personal life, BUT IT MUST BE VOLUNTARY to be worth anything.
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Thats key, Collectivists believe in Forced or Coerced Altruistic Sacrifice.

Any altruistic act should be of the individuals own free will.



"...we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow men." -- Adolf Hitler, 10-7-33


"To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole." -- Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda, National Socialist German Workers' ("Nazi") Party


"Comrades! We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all." -- Soviet Premier Nikita S. Khrushchev, addressing the 20th Congress of the Soviet Communist Party
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P5. Proper role of Government (AUDIO FIXED)
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Most (young) people now a days are not individuals in the classic way anymore. they think the same, act the same, behave the same, like the same stuff, have same/similar character/person, want the same etc. like clones...just they look different...or like "the borg" "the hive, the collective" lol
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I'll just toss this out:

I'm quite individual, but alas I am not individual enough to be able to build myself a car to drive on my own private road. Or to own my own business to take care of my every individual need, which of course would take a group of people I would have to tax in order to get enough funds to buy my own little south seas island which would bring us right back around to collectivism. Something like that.



Yes, I just did a bong hit....
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Anarchy means never having more than you can carry in your backpack.



Yes I did another. Bong hit.
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Collectivism is great in terms of reinforcing factual information.
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Collectivism is great in terms of reinforcing factual information.
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Collectivism is great in terms of reinforcing factual information.
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you guys are getting good. i'm feeling that more and more people are enlightened here.

let us proceed and rebuild this world!
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I'll just toss this out:

I'm quite individual, but alas I am not individual enough to be able to build myself a car to drive on my own private road. Or to own my own business to take care of my every individual need, which of course would take a group of people I would have to tax in order to get enough funds to buy my own little south seas island which would bring us right back around to collectivism. Something like that.



Yes, I just did a bong hit....
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It shows.
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"individualism vs collectivism" ? LOL ...you people are soooo lost it is scary.


Where the fuck do you think you live ? In a fucking phone booth ? You live in a self contained sphere called Earth. You live with other beings called people. YOU WERE BORN IN A COLLECTIVE WORLD !!! LOL


Geeezzz talk about anti-social. LOL


Seek help !@!!!


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You must learn to live together, work together, help each other, be good stewards of the Earth, play nice together. Is that "collectivism" ? Is this what some are calling bad ? What's the matter not enough division and hatred for you all ?


You are all just reactionary nut jobs. All just looking for the booger man. Always looking for the scapegoat and hating any idea that really makes sense.


Seek help.


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Your comments show you didn't even watch the videos, since what you said has nothing to do with what's in the videos. Your insults show you would have no real argument anyway.

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Collectivism is control.

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Most (young) people now a days are not individuals in the classic way anymore. they think the same, act the same, behave the same, like the same stuff, have same/similar character/person, want the same etc. like clones...just they look different...or like "the borg" "the hive, the collective" lol
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Yes and its pathetic.
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Most (young) people now a days are not individuals in the classic way anymore. they think the same, act the same, behave the same, like the same stuff, have same/similar character/person, want the same etc. like clones...just they look different...or like "the borg" "the hive, the collective" lol
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Why not collective individualism?
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yeah, and the ones who are truly individuals are looked upon as crazy or weird.

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