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WHO Report indicates Swine Flu possibly weaponized

 
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Influenza-Like Illness in the United States and Mexico

24 April 2009 -- The United States Government has reported seven confirmed human cases of Swine Influenza A/H1N1 in the USA (five in California and two in Texas) and nine suspect cases. All seven confirmed cases had mild Influenza-Like Illness (ILI), with only one requiring brief hospitalization. No deaths have been reported.

The Government of Mexico has reported three separate events. In the Federal District of Mexico, surveillance began picking up cases of ILI starting 18 March. The number of cases has risen steadily through April and as of 23 April there are now more than 854 cases of pneumonia from the capital. Of those, 59 have died. In San Luis Potosi, in central Mexico, 24 cases of ILI, with three deaths, have been reported. And from Mexicali, near the border with the United States, four cases of ILI, with no deaths, have been reported.

Of the Mexican cases, 18 have been laboratory confirmed in Canada as Swine Influenza A/H1N1, while 12 of those are genetically identical to the Swine Influenza A/H1N1 viruses from California.

The majority of these cases have occurred in otherwise healthy young adults. Influenza normally affects the very young and the very old, but these age groups have not been heavily affected in Mexico.

Because there are human cases associated with an animal influenza virus, and because of the geographical spread of multiple community outbreaks, plus the somewhat unusual age groups affected, these events are of high concern.

The Swine Influenza A/H1N1 viruses characterized in this outbreak have not been previously detected in pigs or humans. The viruses so far characterized have been sensitive to oseltamivir, but resistant to both amantadine and rimantadine.

The World Health Organization has been in constant contact with the health authorities in the United States, Mexico and Canada in order to better understand the risk which these ILI events pose. WHO (and PAHO) is sending missions of experts to Mexico to work with health authorities there. It is helping its Member States to increase field epidemiology activities, laboratory diagnosis and clinical management. Moreover, WHO's partners in the Global Alert and Response Network have been alerted and are ready to assist as requested by the Member States.

WHO acknowledges the United States and Mexico for their proactive reporting and their collaboration with WHO and will continue to work with Member States to further characterize the outbreak.
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If it's never been detected in pigs or humans... where would this strain of H1N1 come from?

A lab maybe?
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tahts retarded, if it was weaponised and intended for use against the United States it would have been released into the L.A. subway at peak-hour or something. It would be illogical to use it any other way were this the case.
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I see.

A gratuitous assertion based on your apparently voluminous knowledge of what "they" would do.

Fail.
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tahts retarded, if it was weaponised and intended for use against the United States it would have been released into the L.A. subway at peak-hour or something. It would be illogical to use it any other way were this the case.
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Second wave is worse.. Mexico might be an easier target to get it to the second wave..

if.. it was planned.

Thread title is very misleading.

CDC has released sequences for all 8 gene segments from H1N1 from San Diego case (10M). The mixture is not very unusal, except for previous description of North American HA and Eurasian NA and M. Other genes are

PB2 Avian North America
PB1 Human circa 1993
PA Swine Eurasian +/-
NP Swine Eurasian +/-
NS Swine Eurasian +/-

+/- = some North American isolates share related sequence.
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This *is* the second wave.

CDC matched only 7 of 14 H1N1 strains between Mexico and the U.S.

It mutated prior to hopping the border.

First Case in Mexico: April 17
First Case in U.S.: April 23

No greater than 6 days for first mutation.

You mean the *third* wave of infection after it mutates in a few more days.
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Thread: Weaponized Flu.. We were warned...
Several others and myself were told back in the beginning of November that there would be a release of weaponized flu
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Ya its not just Swine Flu, its a Hybrid.

Mexican Flu pandemic of 2009
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The report does NOT say it's possibly weaponized. It just says it's a new strain.
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Your command of the English language is somewhat wanting.

"indicates" "possibly"

Not a single thing misleading about the thread title.

It's called critical thinking and reading between the lines.

Not all knowledge is handed to you on a silver platter in nice tiny words.

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wasnt there a thread a few months ago that said weaponed H1N1 was realeased or somethign to that effect?
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tahts retarded, if it was weaponised and intended for use against the United States it would have been released into the L.A. subway at peak-hour or something. It would be illogical to use it any other way were this the case.
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No you are wrong. It would be much more subtle to release it South of the border.Easier too! Islamist terrorists can live there without as many questions. Sooner or later it will come here. Young people travel and there are Hispanics in every State! It may well be here in Nebraska by now. It is just one or two plane rides away!In the meantime every time we see a Hispanic face we will wonder if they or a family member just returned from Mexico!
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Article makes no mention of weaponization
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Second wave is worse.. Mexico might be an easier target to get it to the second wave..

if.. it was planned.


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Describe the "second wave".. what exactly is it ?


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Mexican Army begins executions of infected, mass graves, bodies burning -- CNN
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Your command of the English language is somewhat wanting.

"indicates" "possibly"

Not a single thing misleading about the thread title.

It's called critical thinking and reading between the lines.

Not all knowledge is handed to you on a silver platter in nice tiny words.
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No, the fail belongs to you. The implication of your title is that the report mentions possible weaponization. It doesn't.
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Thread: WARNING : H5N1 has just been released
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Your command of the English language is somewhat wanting.

"indicates" "possibly"

Not a single thing misleading about the thread title.

It's called critical thinking and reading between the lines.

Not all knowledge is handed to you on a silver platter in nice tiny words.


No, the fail belongs to you. The implication of your title is that the report mentions possible weaponization. It doesn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518

How many facts do you need, exactly?

Swine flu was on the decline until this outbreak.
[link to www.cdc.gov]

OP article states that this version of H1N1 is a unique strain.

CDC says that it's so unique they can't figure where it came from.

[link to www.cdc.gov]

Preliminary testing of viruses from the first two patients shows that they are very similar. Additional testing is ongoing with the newer isolettes. We know so far that the viruses contain genetic pieces from four different virus sources. This is unusual. The first is our North American swine influenza viruses. North American avian influenza viruses, human influenza viruses and swine influenza viruses found in Asia and Europe.

That particular genetic combination of swine influenza virus segments has not been recognized before in the U.S. or elsewhere. Of course, we are doing more testing now and looking more aggressively for unusual influenza strains. So we haven't seen this strain before but we haven't been looking as intensively as we are these days.

The viruses are resistant to amantadine and rimantadine anti-viral drugs but they are sensitive or susceptible to oseltamivir and zanamivir, the newer anti-viral drugs for flu. And at this time we don’t know exactly how people got the virus. None of the patients have had direct contact with pigs.

You can get swine influenza without direct contact but it's a bit more unusual. And we believe at this point that human-to-human spread is occurring. That's unusual. We don’t know yet how widely it's spreading and we certainly don’t know the extent of the problem. We're taking active steps to learn more and to make sure that we're on top of the situation. We're working closely with health officials in California and in Texas and we're working with the U.S. Department of Agriculture exploring illness in pigs and other animals.

I see. So the CDC can't explain how Asian and European H1N1 genetics merged into the strain we see in both the U.S. and Mexico, but you can explain it away with a wave of your hand.


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THE EGG IS RED!!!!! 5a
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THE EGG IS RED!!!!! 5a
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wtf does that mean?
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Before anyone gets in arguments over semantics, has anyone seen any alerts coming out of China? Normally the WHO monitors swine flu outbreak there and see's how it spreads. The shear numbers of swine in China make this scenario a very real possibility.

Also if these governmental agencies are monitoring the situation, the epicenter of the outbreak is located in Mexico.

If projections are accurate, incubation and mutation with in 6 days will certainly have spread very quickly into other areas including transnational boarders.

Furthermore, if there are any medical experts out there, can you list the outward symptoms and prognosis of this?
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I predict nothing will happen. :11:
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I predict nothing will happen. :11:
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I trully hope not.
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I predict nothing will happen. :11:


I trully hope not.
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I agree, but if you follow the development of the disease it's pretty spooky.

The first round hit, like I posted earlier, on April 17 in Mexico.

There were cases reported of H1N1 in China around April 15, but it's China, so who knows what's going on in there now. If it's an outbreak like in Mexico city, which is highly likely given the common socio-economic conditions in the Chinese hinterlands, there could be 10,000+ cases by now given the relative population densities in the affected areas.

North American Avian Flu
Common Influenza
Asian Swine Flu
European Swine Flu

Looks like that covers about every major population group on the planet.

Immune to Asian Swine Flu because you live in Asia and have a natural immunity?

That's ok, there's genetics for 3 more flu variants that you may be susceptible to.

Fantastic.


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tahts retarded, if it was weaponised and intended for use against the United States it would have been released into the L.A. subway at peak-hour or something. It would be illogical to use it any other way were this the case.
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Yeah cause you know, dumping a deadly virus into a city of 28,000,000 people is "retarded." Most likely a lot easier to start there then to start in America. Oh and looky here, its already crossed the boarded.
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I predict nothing will happen. :11:


I trully hope not.

I agree, but if you follow the development of the disease it's pretty spooky.

The first round hit, like I posted earlier, on April 17 in Mexico.

There were cases reported of H1N1 in China around April 15, but it's China, so who knows what's going on in there now. If it's an outbreak like in Mexico city, which is highly likely given the common socio-economic conditions in the Chinese hinterlands, there could be 10,000+ cases by now given the relative population densities in the affected areas.

North American Avian Flu
Common Influenza
Asian Swine Flu
European Swine Flu

Looks like that covers about every major population group on the planet.

Immune to Asian Swine Flu because you live in Asia and have a natural immunity?

That's ok, there's genetics for 3 more flu variants that you may be susceptible to.

Fantastic.


uhoh
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You hit it on the head. And to add my 2 cents, it is uncontrollable because flu is more easily spread through airborne methods. Whoever developed this really thought it out.
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THE EGG IS RED!!!!! 5a

wtf does that mean?
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It means DOOM.
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