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Look at this! Way back in January of 2004, the CDC was mixing up a deadly brew of avian and human flu viruses to play with.

Kinda makes you wonder ~ this looks like even MORE Evidence of a CREATED VIRUS and PANDEMIC. Wasayo

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CDC to mix avian, human flu viruses in pandemic study

Robert Roos News Editor


Jan 14, 2004 (CIDRAP News) – One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world.

That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses.

Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves—in the name of preparedness.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will soon launch experiments designed to combine the H5N1 virus and human flu viruses and then see how the resulting hybrids affect animals. The goal is to assess the chances that such a "reassortant" virus will emerge and how dangerous it might be.

CDC officials confirmed the plans for the research as described recently in media reports, particularly in a Canadian Press (CP) story.

Two ways to make hybrids

The plans call for trying two methods to create hybrid viruses, CDC spokesman David Daigle told CIDRAP News via e-mail. One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years, according to the CP report.

The other method is reverse genetics—assembling a new virus with sets of genes from the H5N1 and H3N2 viruses. Reverse genetics has already been used to create H5N1 candidate vaccines in several laboratories, according to Daigle. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) said recently it would soon launch a clinical trial of one of those vaccines.


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good find!
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Never-Before-Seen Mixture of Bird, Swine, Human Flu Sickens 7 in Calif., Texas
Friday, April 24, 2009


Print ShareThisATLANTA — Health officials are investigating a never-before-seen form of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses and which has infected seven people in California and Texas. All the victims recovered, but the cases are a growing medical mystery because it's unclear how they caught the virus.

None of the seven people were in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu. And only a few were in contact with each other, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Related: 10 Mysterious Illnesses - Have You Had One?

Still, health officials said it's not a cause for public alarm: The five in California and two in Texas have all recovered, and testing indicates some mainstream antiviral medications seem to work against the virus.

Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC said officials believe it can spread human-to-human, which is unusual for a swine flu virus.
[link to www.foxnews.com]
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Amazing. wtf.
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Wasayo you probably found the smoking gun.
the virus is combined avian+swine+human.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Several complete genome sequences for U.S. flu cases were rapidly made available through GISAID.[60][61] Preliminary genetic characterization found that the hemagglutinin (HA) gene was similar to that of swine flu viruses present in U.S. pigs since 1999, but the neuraminidase (NA) and matrix protein (M) genes resembled versions present in European swine flu isolates. The six genes from American swine flu are themselves mixtures of swine flu, bird flu, and human flu viruses.[62][63] While viruses with this genetic makeup had not previously been found to be circulating in humans or pigs, there is no formal national surveillance system to determine what viruses are circulating in pigs in the U.S.[64] The seasonal influenza strain H1N1 vaccine is thought to be unlikely to provide protection.[65]"
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OH ... MY ... GOOD ... GOD!!!!

What has GLP been saying since this started!? Friggin Engineered virus!!.... Now you find THIS!?

Even if you showed this to people theyd still laugh it off, but i say good find and this thread is getting a top mark from me!
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Let's think a bit about this smoking gun shall we.
Wasayo, one of the regular glp agency manipulation types has a pinned thread exposing a tptb plot.
Sound a bit fishy?

It seems obvious by the pinned threads and now this that they tptb want you to know that they are doing this to you.
As usual, they want you to be angered and outraged (if you won’t take their special blend of tamiflu, the same poison that failed before).
Were you not enraged enough by the financial markets to go rioting in the streets? Will this new revelation make you say 'enough', and riot or protest openly in the streets, inviting attention from their armed thugs. Exactly what they want. Bait delivered.

By the small number of people infected, it is obvious they are not trying (or able) to wipe out massive numbers right now.
It is more about the fear psyop.
Making you believe they have power to do this type of stuff to you and what are you going to do about it.
They want the excuse to control order out of the chaos.

It is so, so obvious.

Do you think we are all children?
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If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck it generally is...... you guessed it...... A DUCK!!!!! 5a
MODS if not already pinned this needs one! Thanks!
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Mass murderers inc.- Here's one more lit candle for a dark world!

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I wonder if any vials have gone missing!!!!! This stinks to high heaven! VERY GOOD PICK UP OP!
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I wonder if any vials have gone missing!!!!! This stinks to high heaven! VERY GOOD PICK UP OP!
 Quoting: childoflight 281980

So you think this information came out by accident. Oops. We put that information out there in advance of our plans because we want them to discover (quite by 'accident') that we are trying to kill them all.

Who woulda thunk it.




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I remember reading a news article last week on CNN saying that some vials of a virus were reported missing from a military base in Maryland. I remember thinking that maybe they used those to kill those 21 horses that were in Florida but had no idea why those two things would connect. But maybe those missing vials and this flu scare are connected. I'll see if I can dig up the article.
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Found the link.. connected or not, still weird.

[link to www.cnn.com]
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Let's think a bit about this smoking gun shall we.
Wasayo, one of the regular glp agency manipulation types has a pinned thread exposing a tptb plot.
Sound a bit fishy?

It seems obvious by the pinned threads and now this that they tptb want you to know that they are doing this to you.
As usual, they want you to be angered and outraged (if you won’t take their special blend of tamiflu, the same poison that failed before).
Were you not enraged enough by the financial markets to go rioting in the streets? Will this new revelation make you say 'enough', and riot or protest openly in the streets, inviting attention from their armed thugs. Exactly what they want. Bait delivered.

By the small number of people infected, it is obvious they are not trying (or able) to wipe out massive numbers right now.
It is more about the fear psyop.
Making you believe they have power to do this type of stuff to you and what are you going to do about it.
They want the excuse to control order out of the chaos.

It is so, so obvious.

Do you think we are all children?
 Quoting: Not fooled then or now 665315

And right on schedule the fake alternative news sources start to reveal that it is the anti-virus that will kill you.
Part of the big powerful plot against week little humans.
If one thing doesn't get you another will. Hide in fear.
The old one, two.....................three?

Tamiflu, Baxter whatever....same overall fear story plot.
From another thread:

ALEX JONES JUST FIGURED IT OUT! LIVE

BAXTER MIXES MUTEGEN WITH H5N1! ALLOWS VIRUS WITH 90% KILLRATE,

NOW BAXTER IS SELECTED FROM HUNDREDS OF COMPANIES TO BE THE ONE TO SUPPLY THE VACINE FOR THE NEW FLU. AND THE VACCINE WILL KILL YOU. MARSHAL LAW AND FEMA CAMPS IF YOU DONT TAKE IT.
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I wonder if any vials have gone missing!!!!! This stinks to high heaven! VERY GOOD PICK UP OP!
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already reported, so they can blame AL CIA DA or whoever
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I wonder if any vials have gone missing!!!!! This stinks to high heaven! VERY GOOD PICK UP OP!


already reported, so they can blame AL CIA DA or whoever
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No I'm sure they are not that stupid to try that again.
Bigger scale.
I think they much prefer the power in people believing that they aren't even safe from their own governments and centers for disease control. Mass paranoia. How powerful would it be when you start to doubt your very own elected leaders.
We are already at that stage. Was that not always the dark plan.

The old who do you turn to, where doyou run.

Is it time for a savior of sorts to be introduced to the world stage to solve the crisis when leaders can't be trusted anymore.

The next set-up is it?

We are ready and will not be fooled.
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Look at this! Way back in January of 2004, the CDC was mixing up a deadly brew of avian and human flu viruses to play with.

Kinda makes you wonder ~ this looks like even MORE Evidence of a CREATED VIRUS and PANDEMIC. Wasayo

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CDC to mix avian, human flu viruses in pandemic study

Robert Roos News Editor


Jan 14, 2004 (CIDRAP News) – One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world.

That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses.

Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves—in the name of preparedness.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will soon launch experiments designed to combine the H5N1 virus and human flu viruses and then see how the resulting hybrids affect animals. The goal is to assess the chances that such a "reassortant" virus will emerge and how dangerous it might be.

CDC officials confirmed the plans for the research as described recently in media reports, particularly in a Canadian Press (CP) story.

Two ways to make hybrids

The plans call for trying two methods to create hybrid viruses, CDC spokesman David Daigle told CIDRAP News via e-mail. One is to infect cells in a laboratory tissue culture with H5N1 and human flu viruses at the same time and then watch to see if they mix. For the human virus, investigators will use A (H3N2), the strain that has caused most human flu cases in recent years, according to the CP report.

The other method is reverse genetics—assembling a new virus with sets of genes from the H5N1 and H3N2 viruses. Reverse genetics has already been used to create H5N1 candidate vaccines in several laboratories, according to Daigle. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) said recently it would soon launch a clinical trial of one of those vaccines.

Of the two methods, the co-infection approach was described as slower and more laborious, though closer to what happens in nature.

Any viable viruses that emerge from these processes will be seeded into animals that are considered good models for testing how flu viruses behave in humans, according to Daigle. The aim will be to observe whether the animals get sick and whether infected animals can infect others.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has been "pleading" for laboratories to do this research, because it could provide some evidence to back up the agency's warnings about the risk of a flu pandemic, according to the CP report.

Klaus Stohr, head of the WHO's global influenza program, was quoted as saying that if none of the hybrids caused disease, the agency might be inclined to dial down its level of concern. But if the experiments produce highly transmissible and pathogenic viruses, the agency will be more worried, he said.

Safety precautions

Because of the obvious risks in creating viruses with the potential to spark a pandemic, the work will be done in a biosafety level 3 (BSL-3) laboratory at the CDC in Atlanta, Daigle told CIDRAP News.

"We recognize that there is concern by some over this type of work. This concern may be heightened by reports of recent lab exposures in other lab facilities," he said. "But CDC has an incredible record in lab safety and is taking very strict precautions."

Daigle said the US Department of Agriculture requires that highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) viruses be treated as "Select Agents" and that research on them must be done in BSL-3 labs with "enhancements." These include "special provisions to protect both laboratory workers and the environment."

BSL-3 is the second highest level of laboratory biosecurity. It is used for work with pathogens that may cause serious or potentially lethal disease if inhaled, such as tuberculosis or St. Louis encephalitis, according to the CDC.

CDC experiments with HPAI viruses have to pass reviews by the agency's Institutional Biosafety Committee and Animal Care and Use Committee, Daigle said. The facilities involved are inspected by the USDA and the CDC's Office of Safety and Health, and staff members who work with Select Agents require special clearance.

It's been done before

The upcoming experiments will not break entirely new ground for the CDC, the CP story revealed. The agency already has made hybrid viruses with H5N1 samples isolated from patients in Hong Kong in 1997, when the virus first caused human disease.

The results of that research have not yet been published, and the CDC has said little about them. In the CP report, Dr. Nancy Cox, head of the CDC's influenza branch, commented only, "Some gene combinations could be produced and others could not."

Daigle added little to that. He said, "The reassortment work with the 1997 isolate was intermittently interrupted with SARS [severe acute respiratory syndrome] and then the 2004 H5N1 outbreak. We are currently concentrating our efforts on understanding the pathogenicity of the 2004 strains (non-reassortants) in mammalian models."

He said the CDC hopes to prepare a report on that research "in the near future."

See also:

CDC information on biosafety levels
[link to www.cdc.gov]


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and thats how the illuminati rolls.
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this is the only thread which should be pinned in my humble opinion
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Just found this article - written before this outbreak!


b]Is China Testing Bio Weapons on Its Own People?


Well the conspiracy theorists are out in full force I see. I had an interesting meeting the other day at a coffee shop and talked with a highly paranoid chap, who claimed to have some real insider information. He said that the Chinese were experimenting with their own populations with new vaccines for bird flu. He later said that an experiment with the N5H1 strain in a South Eastern province yielded better than expected results and they were forced to quarantine the area and kill thousands of birds and nearly 200 humans. He also said that they made mandatory the vaccination of all families in the vicinity to test their newest vaccine on the N5H1 Bird Flu strain.

Interesting how people get carried away, except he sounded legitimate and said he had insider friends at the CDC and that this Bird Flu virus was also to be tested in Russia, where the leadership had found a problematic area filled with discontents. Anyway, without concurring with his theory I went to the Internet and indeed, China had killed many birds and given a vaccine to many in the province, which they admitted. We know China generally goes not admit much when it comes to these things. After all they denied for years their AIDS problem, which is reaching huge percentages of their population and most recently they did not admit their SARS problem, mostly for economic reasons.

As we study plausible deniability we seem to see a pattern, which could justify the conspiracy theorists, meanwhile the WHO is in fact telling everyone that the Pandemic Bird Flu is only a matter of time and it will go World Wide. The CDC and even the outgoing Federal Health Department gentleman warned of this. Today in the news Russia has the Bird Flu spreading. And guess what in the same province where China had the Bird Flu out beak they now have pig disease.


Well, I asked the gentleman, let’s just call him; Mr. Conspiracy Theorist, he said that he read a report that indicated that humans can get the bird flu thru pigs who had their respitory systems infected. Those humans who handled the pigs would get it and thus the humans would spread it. Now then throw in a flu season and normal issues of human interaction and you have one heck of a full-fledged conspiracy started in China? Could it be so? China is the only country so far with a vaccine and we are still unclear if it actually works, but the Chinese Scientists know.

Meanwhile Mr. Conspiracy Theorists tells me that the powers that be want to limit the populations of the world. Interestingly enough that would not be so bad for the future of humanity or our shortage of water supplies in the next 20-years? However is all this real or is this, Mr. Conspiracy Theorist just drinking too much coffee and listening to too much late night radio?

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class action lawsuit?
death by hydrochloric acid drip on the foreheads?
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Not shocking. Now things make sense.
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So this is what the fema coffins and the empty train cars are for!

How do you know you have the swine/bird flu and not just the regular flu or cold??
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Didn't Panasonic say at the end of January that they were bringing workers back to Japan to avoid the upcoming Pandemic Flight rush, that they didn't want to chance them not being able to catch a flight if a Pandemic hit?

Anyone remember that? Anyone have that link?
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tptb have been working on this little coup for awhile.
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VERY EXCELLENT, WASAYO.

I wonder what they are fucking with in 2009? In 3 years we'll be t.o.a.s.t.

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Shoot many of the original articleas are now gone - like this from February

[link to www.japantoday.com]
"Panasonic orders families to return home from overseas on flu fears

Tuesday 10th February, 03:04 PM JST"

but I did find a flashback article - weird thing is, they said "employees and their families in North America, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Singapore will not be affected."
4 out of the 5 listed as not being affected are countries reporting Swine Flu.
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Go to 1.57 minute for the beginning of the lined up VACCINATIONS by MACHINE GUN POINT!

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Whoa...nice find. Props, this just made my top thread...
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Ok - here's the originial link:
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"Panasonic to Fly Home Workers’ Families “Well Ahead of Possible Confusion at the Outbreak of a Global Pandemic”
February 10th, 2009

Uhhh…

Via: AFP:

Panasonic Corp. has ordered Japanese employees in some foreign countries to send their families home to Japan in preparation for a possible bird flu pandemic, a spokesman said Tuesday.

Family members of Japanese employees in parts of Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Russia, former Soviet states and Latin America will fly back to Japan by the end of September, Panasonic spokesman Akira Kadota said.

The firm decided to take the rare measure “well ahead of possible confusion at the outbreak of a global pandemic,” he said.

Eight people have contracted the H5N1 bird flu virus in China alone this year — five of whom died.

“The bird flu cases reported so far are infections from bird to human, but once an infection between human beings is reported, things can get chaotic with many other companies trying to bring back their employees,” Kadota said.

“We wanted to take action early before it gets difficult to book flight tickets,” he said.

The company did not say how many family members would return to Japan. Employees and their families in North America, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand and Singapore will not be affected.

The H5N1 strain of the virus that is most dangerous to humans first emerged in Asia in 2003 and has since caused nearly 250 deaths, according to World Health Organisation figures.

Bird flu, or avian influenza, kills mainly birds but scientists fear it could mutate to jump from human to human, sparking a global pandemic.

Panasonic said last week it was cutting 15,000 jobs and closing dozens of plants worldwide as it braces to fall deep in the red due to the global economic crisis."

Wow - these guys could put Madame Cleo to shame, if you believe they were being this cautious in regards to a "possible hypothetical" that hadn't shown any signs of coming close to happening at the time they wrote this.

The coincidences are really piling up, aren't they.
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Panasonic's pandemic-related
move fuels questions, concern

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