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HERES ANTI-CYTOKINE STORM HERBS

 
WoWZA
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04/27/2009 10:34 PM
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HERES ANTI-CYTOKINE STORM HERBS
Take from Craig Oxley's, The Unhived Mind site scrolltexts:

25 APRIL 2009 - BONESET HERB IS THE KING AT REDUCING CYTOKINE STORM! STOCK UP ON THIS HERB. AT LARGE DOSAGES IT WILL CAUSE A FEVER.....

21 APRIL 2009 - STOCKPILE THE BOLDO HERB NOW! THIS WILL REDUCE THE CYTOKINE STORM FROM THE WEAPONISED AVIAN FLU. BOLDO ALTERS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM!
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04/27/2009 10:45 PM
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THANK YOU, OP
been looking for this stuff all day!

Will pass it along
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Also...


Antioxidant free radical scavengers. Vit C Co-Q10, Pom juice, Lipoic Acid, Omega-3 oils.

Do not take iron or multiple vits with iron.

Avoid sugar and alcohol.
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04/27/2009 10:48 PM
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just so we get this all together hf
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04/27/2009 10:49 PM
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so out of all the doom SF threads today.....MODS, I think this one needs a pin for some practical info



just MHO
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Also...


Antioxidant free radical scavengers. Vit C Co-Q10, Pom juice, Lipoic Acid, Omega-3 oils.

Do not take iron or multiple vits with iron.

Avoid sugar and alcohol.
 Quoting: Angst Wiper


add also Vitamins A & D3.

Please take any fat soluble vitamins with your fattiest meal of the day, otherwise you are just shitting them away......literally.
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For GODS SAKE read this. Check it out for yourself.

To quote the Wiki entry on Cytokine storms: "A 2003 report in the Journal of Experimental Medicine published by researchers at Imperial College London demonstrates[12] the possibility of preventing a cytokine storm by inhibiting or disabling T-cell response." T-Cell overstimulation is fairly central. Becahse a cytokine stomrm is essentially an overstimulated immune system.

So survival is aided by INHIBITING OR DISABLING T-Cell response and/or mitigating immune system collateral damage. This is consistent in research. Now if you google "boneset herb t-cell" you'll find quotes such as "The polysaccharides in boneset activate T-cells to fight bacterial infections. " In other words, IF YOU TAKE BONESET DURING A CYTOKINE STORM IT MAY KILL YOU because it may tend to strengthen and stimulate the cytokine storm even further. I repeat. Not only boneset, but also echinacea, elderberry and other traditional herbal methods of goosing the immune system may kill you during a cytokine storm. Because in the instance of a cytokine storm, the immune system must be RESTRAINED AND NOT STIMULATED. There are studies suggesting boneset may modulate cytokine stimulation. But nothing as yet on anthing as severe as a full blown cytokine storm. Only speculation. Not to say that boneset may not be a cure all. Only that the jury is still out, and the possibility for error may include your death.

Now if you really want to prepare for a bleeding fever/cytokine storm, the experienced experts in such cases state that if the damage from the cytokine storm can be restrained for 3 (three) days, then the subject will likely recover. This was done by those with actual experience with strong and large repeated doses of antioxidants such as Vitamin C. This is supported historically as Nostradamus successful method of fighting the black death was with common rose hips - which is loaded with vitamins A, D, and C. Note that bubonic plague causes a cytokine storm.

Now if you wish to go further, some things that are known to aid in antioxidant action are:
- Alpha Lipoic Acid - recharges all antioxidants in the body.
- Essential Oil of Cloves - one of the most powerful antioxidants found in nature with a verified ORAC rating over 1,000,000. Note that this leaves most other antioxidants in the dust by a very wide margin. Wolfberries stand at around 30,000, acai at around 18,000, for example. Note that an essential oil can still be absorbed quickly and easily even if nothing can be kept down.

And some common things that are known to reduce systemic inflamation are:
- Turmeric - one of the most powerful natural anti-inflammatories - contains quercitin
- Garlic - powerful anti-inflammatory
- Onion - "

Such things are well known, well studied and relatively safe.

One viable method for Vitamin C usage would be that proposed by Linus Pauling - to ramp up vitamin C dosage until a mild case of the runs develops. Then stabilize and continue that dose. This saturates the system with vitamin C. Note that in actual experience with bleeding fevers, very large repeated doses were required to resist the storm. This requires a large stock. It also requries the support of vitamins such as A, D and E which multiply the effectiveness of C.

As far as herbs, the author might suggest FEVERFEW, which is well known to restrain leukotriene production, which would be one piece of the cytokine storm. As a result it it more likely to provide help with a cytokine storm rather than possible harm. In addition to Feverfew, Bupleurum, Glucosamine and Red Yeast Rice are noted for their abilities to restrain the immune system. Large doses of sugar (like a can of soda) also restrain the immune system. So what is the use of telling someone with a bleeding fever to avoid sugar?

The author strongly suggests you contact a nutritionist, someone with credentials in herbal healing and/or a doctor regarding such things. Or someone with actual experience treating a bleeding fever/cytokine storm. And the author strongly suggests you verify what is said in this thread. Because that is going to be one of your best ways to avoid some of the dangerous things in this thread. You should be saying "OK, so show me the science".

KO
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