Yet the goad almightly , heaven sent TRINITY DISAGREES with you....playing it like its the end of the fuckin' world. Who's the idiot now ET? You're an idiot and you always have been.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 459937 United States 4/29/2009 1:17 AM
Re: Could all of this flu BS be a ploy to cause us to give up more of our freedoms?
Yes and no. To some people who want more security probably like the ones in Congress mainly now, probably yes, but to others, hell no!
Don't you think that perhaps some multi-national corp would be more prone to have people in them that they are not sure what they are doing (like anthrax before). What I heard was that there were 300 mistakes done by people just last year working with viruses and stuff - probably heard on the radio CoasttoCoast AM probably by one or the other, Steve or Alex, but they also had a guest on the first hour that talked about it, since all of it was about this current Swine Flu situation.
Now, everyone wants to point some fingers perhaps, even russia in another thread, but it could lead to more security especially for large cities.
Take for instance, how many people will just be stupid about it, just as with some other things, and just doing dumb mistakes lately perhaps in the world. Perhaps I heard some of that on this forum here lately also.
I know people make mistakes, but then it is the agression out of some people who have made this all worse usually in the end or from before. Perhaps that will not happen, but then they can't seem to separate their emotions with just doing what they think should be done. They have to infer or do more in the end, and that, that is when it changes.
They keep doing this stuff, citing how smart they are or that they have a college degree or that they know better everything than anyone else (?)
Really do they, for they rely on others to keep spoon feeding them, or else they think they can get angry.
No, that ain't suppose to happen and it has and seems to be unethicalness in them and anti-socialness because of what others say. If they were not that way, or perhaps their job threatened with the way that white collars seem to work the world, then perhaps it all would be better. Then the white collars never seem to know what really is going on - along with what is going on with the government.
In a sense it turns out to be all like a cover-up and well, we all know Nixon and what he did, but how many copycats or dumb idea people are there really who ignore what is really going on. They end up being managers who really can not manage or claim that it is not their job in the end. Not that they are the cause of it, no, but instead are dumb in how they approach it in the end. First it costs, too much money, so they ignore it, and they the others get mad (like in Congress) and clamp down and all that crap.
You think they go about it differently after the last 40 years. There are just things that maybe other government also do, and in the end - it all belongs back in Hell!
And - that may be where it all ends up going back to!
Morris User ID: 300272 United States 4/29/2009 2:55 AM
Re: Could all of this flu BS be a ploy to cause us to give up more of our freedoms?
Good point. What freedom do you actually have? When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand.
Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!"
-Revelation 6:5, 6:6
Evil Twin Senior Forum Moderator 4/29/2009 2:37 PM
Re: Could all of this flu BS be a ploy to cause us to give up more of our freedoms?
Yet the goad almightly , heaven sent TRINITY DISAGREES with you....playing it like its the end of the fuckin' world. Who's the idiot now ET? You're an idiot and you always have been.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 667161
What's a "goad almightly"? Considering becoming an "undocumented worker".
eviltwin618@yahoo.com
II-Neutron User ID: 653755 Canada 4/29/2009 2:50 PM
Re: Could all of this flu BS be a ploy to cause us to give up more of our freedoms?
From another post:
SInce CDC invoked the "declaration of public health emergency" Doing so can invoke the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act (MSEHPA) which in turn (depending on which state you are in that has passed it) use the military.
Under the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, upon the declaration of a "public health emergency," governors and public health officials would be empowered to:
1. Force individuals suspected of harboring an "infectious disease" to undergo medical examinations.
2. Track and share an individual's personal health information, including genetic information.
3. Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases
4. Mandate that all health care providers report all cases of persons who harbor any illness or health condition that may be caused by an epidemic or an infectious agent and might pose a "substantial risk" to a "significant number of people or cause a long-term disability." (Note: Neither "substantial risk" nor "significant number" are defined in the draft.)
5. Force pharmacists to report any unusual or any increased prescription rates that may be caused by epidemic diseases.
6. Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and--this is key--property rights.
7. Control public and private property during a public health emergency, including pharmaceutical manufacturing plants, nursing homes, other health care facilities, and communications devices.
8. Mobilize all or any part of the "organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state's orders."
9. Ration firearms, explosives, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, among other commodities.
10. Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.
check states that have passed it
[link to www.publichealthlaw.net]
about the Model Health Act her
[link to www.publichealthlaw.net]
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 475092
Huuumph... I have a few questions my good fellow says I to he who would presume any such a thing......!
Under the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, upon the declaration of a "public health emergency," governors and public health officials would be empowered to:
1. Force individuals suspected of harboring an "infectious disease" to undergo medical examinations.
Things to ask clarification for. Assume and presume nothing about this matter, the statutes and the agents there of:
What does ¨harboring¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom may it apply to and not apply to?
What does "infectious disease" mean, where is its meaning derived and whom may it apply to and not apply to?
What does ¨undergo¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom may it apply to and not apply to?
What does ¨medical¨, ¨examination/s¨ ¨medical examination/s¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom may it apply to and not apply to? What are there scope, nature and cause?
If any authority that claims to have power to execute or enact anything upon your being, where is that authority derived from, where is your consent expressed expressly to consent, do they have a certified delegation of authority order when ask to present one for inspection and consideration? Can they substantiate their clams? Is there a signed judges order expressly naming you in any action.
2. Track and share an individual's personal health information, including genetic information.
What does ¨Track¨, ¨share¨, ¨Track and share¨ mean, where is its meaning derived, and whom, or what may it apply to, and not apply to?
What does ¨individual/s¨ ¨personal¨ ¨personal health¨, ¨personal health information¨ ¨genetic¨ , ¨information¨, ¨genetic information¨ mean, where is its meaning derived, and whom, or what may it apply to, and not apply to?
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The word ¨including¨, is that limited to the definitions included in this legislation alone or a combination of acts and or legislation, if it is so that they are derived from other acts and or laws what are those laws, how do they apply, how is their foundation and the wording and understanding established and are proven to be lawful precepts for the current act and or legislation? Does the word ¨include¨ exclude other definition/s of things, if so what are the definition/s and thus things defined excluded, and what are the inclusions and exclusions in an exhaustive list?
3. Force persons to be vaccinated, treated, or quarantined for infectious diseases
What does ¨Force¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom or what may it apply to and not apply to?
What does ¨person/s¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom or what may it apply to and not apply to?
What does ¨vaccinated¨, ¨treated¨, or ¨quarantined¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom or what may it apply to and not apply to?
4. Mandate that all health care providers report all cases of persons who harbor any illness or health condition that may be caused by an epidemic or an infectious agent and might pose a "substantial risk" to a "significant number of people or cause a long-term disability." (Note: Neither "substantial risk" nor "significant number" are defined in the draft.)
What does ¨Mandate¨, ¨epidemic¨, ¨infectious¨, ¨agent¨, "substantial risk", "significant number¨, ¨people¨, ¨cause¨, ¨long-term¨, ¨disability ¨, ¨long-term disability ¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom or what may it apply to and not apply to?
5.Force pharmacists to report any unusual or any increased prescription rates that may be caused by epidemic diseases.
What does ¨unusual¨, ¨ epidemic diseases¨ mean, where is its meaning derived and whom or what may it apply to and not apply to?
6.Preempt existing state laws, rules and regulations, including those relating to privacy, medical licensure, and--this is key--property rights.
where is that authority derived from, where is your consent expressed expressly to consent, do they have a certified delegation of authority order when ask to present one for inspection and consideration? Can they substantiate their clams? Is there a signed judges order expressly naming you in any action. Can it be shown as certified evidence in fact that the property owner relinquished his or hers rights to property? If there was no formal contract wherein which the property rights where given over in a full disclosure contract what colour of law are they presuming to use and what presumption and assumption of rights did the fed take upon the rights of the man or woman?
7. Control public and private property during a public health emergency, including pharmaceutical manufacturing plants, nursing homes, other health care facilities, and communications devices.
8. Mobilize all or any part of the "organized militia into service to the state to help enforce the state's orders."
9. Ration firearms, explosives, food, fuel and alcoholic beverages, among other commodities.
10. Impose fines and penalties to enforce their orders.
check states that have passed it
[link to www.publichealthlaw.net]
I give up but you get my point. For those that don´t know I am the one writing in the red letters.
Last Edited by II-Neutron on 4/29/2009 at 2:52 PM ii.neutron@gmail.com
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11
Anonymous Coward User ID: 617652 United States 4/29/2009 3:06 PM
Re: Could all of this flu BS be a ploy to cause us to give up more of our freedoms?
and I'm wondering what is going on that is not being reported whilst all the attention is on the flu.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 617652
Ummm 4 trillion dollar budget comes to mind. But you never know how much they crammed into the last 3 days. ii.neutron@gmail.com
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11
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