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How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah???
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 524110
5/8/2009 7:30 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
The Day the Earth Nearly Died
by D.S. Allan and J. B. Delair
Book Review by Richard G. Allen.
A must reading for anyone wishing to understand the history of the solar system, the earth, and our civilization, is the book by two English scientists, D.S. Allan and J. B. Delair. It is called, When the Earth Nearly Died. This book is a scientific treatment of an event that occurred approximately eleven thousand years ago that very nearly destroyed the earth and it's inhabitants.
This event changed the earth's enviroments entirely. It also affected other planets and their satellites, changing their rotations, orbits, and atmospheres. Our earth is still recovering from it's effect. Apparently Mars did not recover from this event. The last comment is a conclusion that I have drawn, as the book does not purport to draw this conclusion.
The book, however, gives compelling evidence of a world wide, and solar system wide catastrophic disaster that almost wiped out every living thing on earth. These two scientists give strong evidence that debris from an exploding star, a nova, intersected our solar system about eleven thousand years ago. For those of us who are puzzled as to what happened to the fabled Atlantis, and the civilizations that built the pryamids at Giza, and the structures on Mars and the moon, this book may answer that question. |
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JJack108
User ID: 667270
5/8/2009 7:35 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Hmmmmm...what would happen if all the ice in the Artic and Anartica were instantly vaporized alongwith all the mountain snow...how much of a rise of the oceans would you get and remember most cultures usally clustered around the seas??? let's also see the story goes that it rained 40 days and forty night's...must be some data out there that used this type info to see if the story can be remotely justified
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 627004
5/8/2009 7:38 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Its scientifically impossible for the earth to be completely under water. period.
Why would god want to wipe EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING out except for a 500 year old random guy? How the fuck did noah live to be 500 years old? And do you realize this 500 year old man travelled around the world and get every species of animal? The earth is about 25,000 miles around.. Thats a pretty big fuckin project for a 500 year old man.. How did he get across the ocean? AND didnt noah realize that its not a good idea to put lions and deer in the same boat?
the story of noah and the ark is complete bullshit.. how religious people actually believe it really went down, is beyond me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 391355
noone ever said the entire world was flooded
theres alot of wather on earth and like the tides...floods can be possible aswell
if gravity/magnetism changes because of the sun for instance it would be possible for all the water to move from the ocean onto the land...leaving the land flooded and the oceans almost empty...
think of it like the tides only times 100...(remember thatgreat flood a couple of years ago? that times 10)
the story about noah and all is just that
a story...wich lives on...its message being? that something like this happens every once in a while (100s maybe 1000s of years |
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Wraithwynd
User ID: 669248
5/8/2009 8:05 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Actually..... If you read your bible some of those questions are answered.
1. The animals came to Noah, Noah didn't have to hunt them down.
2. Animals did not eat meat in those days, nor did humans. After the flood humans and animals began to eat meat.
3. Mathematically speaking the ark was large enough to hold the animals as mentioned (7 clean, 2 unclean) creeping and crawling ones. Further none of the animals had to be adults. Thus you had young elephants who would mature and grow up later to have offspring of their own. Lion cubs (which would be a wee bit more tame then their parents). Baby elephants are 'slightly' smaller than their parents and require far less food.
According to the story Noah labored for 100 years to build the ark. Even the Sloth (now residing in South America) could have made the long journey halfway around the world with lots of time to spare (nearly 25 years) at its slow pace. You find the MPH a sloth travels, you do the math.
4. We have no idea what the real limits of human aging are. We now know the causes and have theorized that in a denser atmosphere, with slightly modified environmental factors a human being can live to at least 120 years of age WITHOUT modern medicine.
Since many people have reached their 120th year and a little more and were fully functional it is really not to far of a stretch that humans could have lived hundreds of years at one time. While we have no proof, it is not beyond possibility.
The whole earth can scientifically flood. It is possible, we have no evidence of such a flood, but it is possible.
I'm not saying that the flood did happen, or that a man named Noah really existed.
What I am saying is that your basis for 'denial' of this story is wrong.
Critical thinking is a two way street. While you may think its just a matter to find proof against a thing, it is also a process to find proof of a thing then based on both proofs reach a final conclusion.
The final conclusion on this one is that while there is strong evidence for regional massive floods (like the Scablands: [link to en.wikipedia.org] ) the whole earth would look like that area does today, since the earth is not like that we must conclude that no global flood took place. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 628461
5/8/2009 8:27 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
In the book It's All About Control - The God, Jesus, & ET Coverup Conspiracy, Tony Stubbs gives a more realistic account of the flood and the alien/human hybrid Noah...
Eventually, the ancient legends tell us, the population of humans became so numerous and troublesome that En-Lil began to regret making them so advanced. At the end of the last Ice Age, during the Nibiru visit in 10800 BCE, he predicted that Nibiru would come very close to Earth, and that the gravitational pull of the huge planet would trigger seismic and volcanic disasters, major weather disturbances, and could cause the Antarctic ice-shelf to slide off its rocky base, crash into the ocean and create a huge planet-wide tsunami. Seeing a way to purge the Earth of its pesky
humans, En-lil intended to allow it, without warning them.
En-ki, on the other hand, was more sympathetic to his genetic creations and spilled the beans to Noah, a hybrid son he’d conceived with a human female, which allowed several of his humans to escape to high ground in boats, carrying the DNA of each animal species with them (the Noah legend). When the ice-shelf did break off, the resulting tsunami funneled up the Persian Gulf, wiping out much of the life in the Middle East. Elsewhere, it resulted in the destruction of Atlantis and raised 2 Many biblical scholars dispute that actual animals were taken into the Ark, and
reason that only the DNA for each species was saved.. sea levels by up to 500 feet. This gave birth to the legends of the flood that are found in every ancient body of knowledge on the planet. The ETs, of course, watched the disaster from the safety of their spacecraft. “The Earth began to shake, by a force before unknown it was agitated … In the Whiteland at Earth’s bottom, the Earth’s foundations were shaking … Then with a roar to a thousand thunders equal, off its foundations the ice sheet slipped … By Nibiru’s unseen force into the south sea crashing … One sheet of ice into another ice sheet was smashing …The Whiteland’s surface like a broken eggshell was crumbling … Tidal waves arose, the very skies was the wall of water reaching … Northward was the wall of water onrushing … The Abzu land it was reaching … Towards the settled land it travelled …
The Edin it overwhelmed.
En-ki’s half-sister, who had helped him create humans lamented, “My created like drowned dragonflies in a pond the waters fill, all life by the rolling sea wave away was taken.”The Deluge account from the Sumerian tablets solves the dilemma of why ‘God’ created man, then allowed most of them to die, and then relented in Noah’s case. In fact, we’re talking about two different ‘gods’ who were at bitter odds regarding humans. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 678013
5/13/2009 1:09 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
I'll give you a hint...Firmament Quoting: Anonymous Coward 667093
probably |
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Mr. Predictor  
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User ID: 287257
5/13/2009 1:13 AM
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religion is metaphysical
so, if God wanted to flood the earth, he make a bunch of water appear
umkaye ???
those who beat their swords into plowshares will find themselves plowing for those who don't |
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AlcyoneOfMars
User ID: 644383
5/13/2009 1:22 AM
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You're assuming that the topography of the Earth has never been such that the Earth's extant water could cover all the land.
Also, you're assuming that Earth's extant water is all of the water that's ever been here. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 672705
5/13/2009 1:22 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
It didnt. Their little part of the world flooded and to them that was the entire world because it was all that they knew. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 672705
5/13/2009 1:22 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
It didnt. Their little part of the world flooded and to them that was the entire world because it was all that they knew. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 678030
5/13/2009 1:44 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
All I know is that there has been plenty of rain all the time now.
It's getting ridiculous now all the rain that has been falling. I do notice that others are saying the same thing about lots of rain. Tired of it to be honest. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 678111
5/13/2009 6:40 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
All I know is it has been raining alot lately. It's like the windows of heaven r opening up or something. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 657943
5/13/2009 6:58 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Its scientifically impossible for the earth to be completely under water. period. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 391355
actually it's not. simply flatten out all the land masses so that the ground level of the entire earth surface is perfectly smooth and bingo everywhere would be under water.
of course that an awful lot of earth moving to fill in the various marine trenches and flatten the mountains but what the hey. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 657943
5/13/2009 7:01 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
En-Lil began to regret making them so advanced.
En-ki, on the other hand, was more sympathetic to his genetic creations Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628461
so en lil wanted us destroyed but en ki wanted us to survive.
I understand En pekked just did what his wife told him to. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 677912
5/13/2009 7:05 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
The Day the Earth Nearly Died
by D.S. Allan and J. B. Delair
Book Review by Richard G. Allen.
A must reading for anyone wishing to understand the history of the solar system, the earth, and our civilization, is the book by two English scientists, D.S. Allan and J. B. Delair. It is called, When the Earth Nearly Died. This book is a scientific treatment of an event that occurred approximately eleven thousand years ago that very nearly destroyed the earth and it's inhabitants.
This event changed the earth's enviroments entirely. It also affected other planets and their satellites, changing their rotations, orbits, and atmospheres. Our earth is still recovering from it's effect. Apparently Mars did not recover from this event. The last comment is a conclusion that I have drawn, as the book does not purport to draw this conclusion.
The book, however, gives compelling evidence of a world wide, and solar system wide catastrophic disaster that almost wiped out every living thing on earth. These two scientists give strong evidence that debris from an exploding star, a nova, intersected our solar system about eleven thousand years ago. For those of us who are puzzled as to what happened to the fabled Atlantis, and the civilizations that built the pryamids at Giza, and the structures on Mars and the moon, this book may answer that question. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 524110
BS |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 677912
5/13/2009 7:06 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Hmmmmm...what would happen if all the ice in the Artic and Anartica were instantly vaporized alongwith all the mountain snow...how much of a rise of the oceans would you get and remember most cultures usally clustered around the seas??? let's also see the story goes that it rained 40 days and forty night's...must be some data out there that used this type info to see if the story can be remotely justified Quoting: JJack108
[link to www.creationscience.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 677912
5/13/2009 7:10 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
You need to read this:
[link to www.creationscience.com]
Actually..... If you read your bible some of those questions are answered.
1. The animals came to Noah, Noah didn't have to hunt them down.
2. Animals did not eat meat in those days, nor did humans. After the flood humans and animals began to eat meat.
3. Mathematically speaking the ark was large enough to hold the animals as mentioned (7 clean, 2 unclean) creeping and crawling ones. Further none of the animals had to be adults. Thus you had young elephants who would mature and grow up later to have offspring of their own. Lion cubs (which would be a wee bit more tame then their parents). Baby elephants are 'slightly' smaller than their parents and require far less food.
According to the story Noah labored for 100 years to build the ark. Even the Sloth (now residing in South America) could have made the long journey halfway around the world with lots of time to spare (nearly 25 years) at its slow pace. You find the MPH a sloth travels, you do the math.
4. We have no idea what the real limits of human aging are. We now know the causes and have theorized that in a denser atmosphere, with slightly modified environmental factors a human being can live to at least 120 years of age WITHOUT modern medicine.
Since many people have reached their 120th year and a little more and were fully functional it is really not to far of a stretch that humans could have lived hundreds of years at one time. While we have no proof, it is not beyond possibility.
The whole earth can scientifically flood. It is possible, we have no evidence of such a flood, but it is possible.
I'm not saying that the flood did happen, or that a man named Noah really existed.
What I am saying is that your basis for 'denial' of this story is wrong.
Critical thinking is a two way street. While you may think its just a matter to find proof against a thing, it is also a process to find proof of a thing then based on both proofs reach a final conclusion.
The final conclusion on this one is that while there is strong evidence for regional massive floods (like the Scablands: [ link to en.wikipedia.org] ) the whole earth would look like that area does today, since the earth is not like that we must conclude that no global flood took place. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696921
6/7/2009 4:48 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
u think it was crowded on the ark? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696857
6/7/2009 5:17 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
You're assuming that the topography of the Earth has never been such that the Earth's extant water could cover all the land.
Also, you're assuming that Earth's extant water is all of the water that's ever been here. Quoting: AlcyoneOfMars
yes. amazing that no one has mentioned the ice age. it was miles thick and covered continents. and then it warmed, there was ice dams that burst that flooded inland areas, there were hufe chunks that caused tsunamis, the land itself was pressed lower and is still springing back,,
and yes every culture old enough has creation myths that talk of the great flood...
the details may be allegory or distorted beyond comprehension, the date and cause may be debatable, but the fact that there was a worldwide cataclysmic flood is beyond doubt... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696857
6/7/2009 5:21 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
you dont have to be a theologian to believe in a flood. a geologist is enough.... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688644
6/7/2009 5:47 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Its scientifically impossible for the earth to be completely under water. period.
Why would god want to wipe EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING out except for a 500 year old random guy? How the fuck did noah live to be 500 years old? And do you realize this 500 year old man travelled around the world and get every species of animal? The earth is about 25,000 miles around.. Thats a pretty big fuckin project for a 500 year old man.. How did he get across the ocean? AND didnt noah realize that its not a good idea to put lions and deer in the same boat?
the story of noah and the ark is complete bullshit.. how religious people actually believe it really went down, is beyond me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 391355
"For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water. Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." 2nd Peter 3:5-7 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696929
6/7/2009 5:52 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
98% of the world's population live close enough to the sea, and low enough to be affected by an ocean impact of a fair sized rock into the ocean, causing a worldwide mega tsunami. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688644
6/7/2009 5:58 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
It was just one continent that was flooded, and it is at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean now. The refugees were many more than just Noah, he was symbolic of the many ships that were launched because of warnings the people received. And the refugee ships were driven by winds in different directions, they landed in different lands, and told and retold the story of the Great Flood to their descendents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646448
Where did you get all of THIS bullshit from?
Only 8 people survived the flood. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688644
6/7/2009 6:03 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
it was a flood in their region doom tard
Exactly.
C'mon, be logical for a moment.
I know the bible says, "and the flood was upon all the earth" or something to that effect.
But the person writing that - he didn't have access to satellite images and airplanes and the internet.
What he did was look out in every direction from where he was standing, or floating, and as far as HIS eye could see there was NOTHING BUT WATER.
Hence, "all the earth" that he was capable of seeing in his immediate surroundings was under water.
It's really that simple. Quoting: Noah way, Jose 576524
Quote:
"But the person writing that - he didn't have access to satellite images and airplanes and the internet."
That person was Moses. And he had a better source than satellite images and airplanes and the internet.
God. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 692317
6/7/2009 6:05 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Liquid Sky. |
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The Commentator
User ID: 587619
6/7/2009 6:10 AM
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The water came from inside the earth and its atmosphere. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 581488
Care to show the chemistry of removing waters of hydration from rocks and then converting it to rain?
No, didn't think you did.
non sufficit Orbis |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688644
6/7/2009 6:10 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
bible is bullshit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 674270
I can't imagine a more ignorant and brainless statement than this.
Never has a book been written, in ALL of history, which contains more truth, than the Holy scriptures.
The stupidest people on earth, have got to be the ones that use a blanket term like "bullshit" to describe the deepest and most meaningful writings of ALL TIME, which have survived the ages as long as the scriptures have.
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will BY NO MEANS pass away" Matthew 24:35 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688644
6/7/2009 6:16 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
Its scientifically impossible for the earth to be completely under water. period.
Why would god want to wipe EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING out except for a 500 year old random guy? How the fuck did noah live to be 500 years old? And do you realize this 500 year old man travelled around the world and get every species of animal? The earth is about 25,000 miles around.. Thats a pretty big fuckin project for a 500 year old man.. How did he get across the ocean? AND didnt noah realize that its not a good idea to put lions and deer in the same boat?
the story of noah and the ark is complete bullshit.. how religious people actually believe it really went down, is beyond me.
OP
Your problem is - you are repeating a story you THINK you know but do not. Try reading the Bible and maybe you will learn the real story of Noah.
And the above poster is right - the flood did not cover the whole earth - only the part that needed cleansing.
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You christurds are the lyingest asswipes on the planet.
You just make shit up ALL the time.
Quote chapter and verse from you toilet paper bible, where it says your drooler hump back god fugger character didn't flood the entire earth.
- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558
Quote:
"You christurds are the lyingest asswipes on the planet.
You just make shit up ALL the time.
Quote chapter and verse from you toilet paper bible, where it says your drooler hump back god fugger character didn't flood the entire earth."
Get offa mommies computer, young moron. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 688644
6/7/2009 6:18 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
It's complicated
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Yep.. complicated pure unadulterated bullshit.
Just like the entire chrsiturd religion.
Their silly mindless religion really sucks ass bigtime.
- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558
The flood cleansed the earth, of lowlife, evil, degenerate scum, like THIS brainless idiot.
Another cleansing is soon to come. This time by fire. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 660494
6/7/2009 6:21 AM | | Re: How Did The Entire Earth Flood During The Time of Noah??? | Quote |
It tipped on it's axis. Oceans poured over land.
Ever watch the docu. "The Venus Factor?"
It will scare the shit out of you. Quoting: {ARCHER}
Is this online somewhere?
Any links?
Thanks in advance. |
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