I DON"T WANT YOUR BLOOD ON MY HANDS

ditto. well said.

please, people, consider the times we are living in and when seeking sources to explain the unexplainable, lease put the bible on your list, along with prayer to the Holy Spirit for wisdom to understand it...

I posted


you ignored

So many Christians I know, myself and family included, have very limited funds now and makes stocking up difficult if not impossible. I have prayed to the Lord Jesus about this, and reading what you wrote WonbyOne, it just hit me that maybe this is the Lord's plan. So those that belong to Him will not be depending on anything of this world, but on Him only. What do you think? And God bless you.

people would rather listen to psycics or o how about nostradamus lol fools lol

Another lost soul or minion..... LOL

This is GLP.... Everything here is garbage. Especially the people doing the pinning.

This appears to be true.

i have been studying the prophecies for years, watching this come ever closer, but it seems to me OPs message is too judgemental, not informative at all really. that it is pinned just takes it to a lower level. if some want to know what this is, it is the horse that follows the black/economic horse, the pale horse. this is simple, non judgemental, and it is the truth.

poppycock! Not judgmental at all. OP was merely enjoining his opinion that whilst searching for meaning in all the other places, people place the bible on their list of things to look at for information about events occurring and to come.

I would also think that the most stubborn person, searching for clues to help the beleaguered mind make sense of the insensible, would at least take a look at the bible.

That it is pinned is refreshing to me.

The four horsemen...White-Red-Black-Pale Green...no one knows when the first four seals are unsealed, during the last of the birth pangs of the end times, or during the first days of the tribulation.

Yes, this could be the pale chloros horse. That would mean that conqueror, war and famine are already loosed.

Truth is, no one is positive when. So this swine flu could be or could soon be the Pale Horse. Or AIDS could be the pale horse, unloosed years ago. Anyone who says they are positive at this point is ... too dogmatic in my opinion

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Thanks OP~

Ps. 80

[13] The boar (swine) out of the wood doth waste (destroy) it, and the wild beast of the field doth devour it.

Praying to mitigate this situation (flu crap). As Jesus's mother has said "prayer can mitigate much of anything to come"

Well for once somebody used the bible correctly and it deserved pinning. These are the times of the transition between hell on earth and heaven on earth and it bids to be prepared, both for physical survival and soul survival.

Those ensouled ones made their choices by Dec, 31 of 2008, but where one goes continues to be a choice, and giving up wickedness will certainly enable the passage into a better place.

In a way it matters not if this is a false alarm or an inside job, this swine flu story, because due to the conditions in this world and over population we are looking at world wide and/or regional conflicts of all sorts, including killer bugs designed by nature herself.

It is the final chance on this earth to make it right with God. Do you wish to go to a better place, stay here to build the new society, or do you wish to move downwards if ensouled???? If not ensouled, do you want a chance at eternal life? Better get right with God then.

I would hope many of the thugs are tired of living in a hell world like this one. But seems 50% of the thugs moved up and 50% moved down, of the 10 billion incarcerated on this prison world. The prison doors are being opened, we will build a better place, we of the remnant choosing to lift up this world.

In these ending times, many unsouled ones will gain a soul, Father Fragment, the Thought Adjuster thingy discussed in the Urantia Book. That is the whole point, in fact for these ones, last chance. No thought adjuster, no continuance. And those ensouled with one already, as I said, where you go next has everything to do with your godly choices or lack of, now.

This is the time of the judgment AND the sorting for placement. This world is dreadfully overpopulated, it was designed for 1/2 billion people not 7 billion. I could handle 1 billion with advanced technology and the spiritual knowledge. Many are going to other worlds that passed the grade, a bit up the ladder of life.

Many have some hope and they will have the dreadful memories of this world erased and start over as cave men on younger worlds. Many up to the challenge are going to people a brand new planet made ready, as God always provides for those in concert with Him, to build a marvelous society there. 200,000 earth folks (explains some of the missing ones) are already there preparing the way for the rest.

The rapture is NOT what is going to happen, the sorting is what is going to happen. Realize those going to the new planet will go in this current body, by ship, of course, how else? God is not understood very well on this planet still, despite the incarnation of Christ Michael on this planet 2000 years ago. Somebody in this thread has a little saucer, with people going up in it. That is how people are removed from a planet, its NOT rapture, it's being taken to physical ships for transport elsewhere.

We are in the time of being in the Photon belt, and being in the ecliptic of the Milky Way, (as we got there before 2012, new agers, that date means NOTHING now, you don't get a magic ascension either, not how it works) and thus is the time of sorting and placement, and ascension of the planet herself. This biggy thing happens every 206 million years. With a smaller ones at the quarter points.

Article:

How Soon the Rapture?
[link to www.raptureready.com]

good stuff

No don't leave witness to unsaved friends and family. Go with the flow till you're vaporized.

He who seeks to save his life will lose it. He who loses his life for My sake will find it.

Don't pray for food, water or clothes. God knows you need these things.

This was pinned to determine the psychology effects of flu-fear upon religious gun owners who dislike obama. Merry Christmas!

Thanks, OP, and whomever pinned this thread. We are not rich at all, but we are very blessed. As I have been making my preps, the Lord pressed upon me that this storing up of sustenance was not to be out of fear or greed (the fear part was probably the biggest motivator, I admit). He brought to mind the story of Corrie Ten Boom in "The Hiding Place", and how God used many people to shelter, hide and take care of others that Hitler was hunting. He wants my family prepared to help others. Jesus is a doer, someone who gives help and rescue. I began looking at my preps and defenses in a different light...knowing that my time to go be with Him has been known since the dawn of time, that I need not worry about having "enough" out of fear.

I believe God talks to us all in different ways, even those of us who don't fall under a prescribed religion. I'm seeing many things, getting many intuitive hits and am having very vivid and strange dreams telling me to prepare myself and my soul. Do not be in fear, no matter what, turn your fear over to God. RELEASE the fear, accept you have it then GIVE it to Him. Strive for innerpeace, balance and love. Trust in God.

Huge things are happening and if you've been putting off your own spirituality seeking time is almost up, choices are being made NOW that determine so many things. Listen to your hearts (not anyone or anything else!) and follow them closely.

Good post, OP.

Don't bet your life on it.

Why in the world would you want to go up in a Rapture? I mean really. If yu get your head lopped off you get to be a pillar in the Temple of God never knowing hot or cold. This is especially desirable to those of us having lived in extreme temperatures(besides i'm inside most of the time anyway). I see it kinda like being absorbed by Landrau or the Borg. If you leave in a rapture sure you get to crash the best party ever tossed -but only (1) time. You may get to watch WW3 on the big screen but it doesn't say you will never again know heat or cold! It's all there in black n white.

@@remember@@ these MAGIc words:

"I knew all this was going to happen cause I visited glp everyday. I posted there a LOT as Anonymous Coward. It was fun, but now I must tell you that Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Saviour. I don't want your tracking stamp in or on my body. Please chop my head off."

Thats all yu gotta say. If they ask you anything else just do like when cops knock on your door. Don't answer.

10 boom wont save you this time! When believers fall they only receive a "little" help. It's chip time or permanently gtfo of the NWO!!!

Good Word: Below I share my current situation, (Please pray for me) also I have shared two of four dreams that I have had. Below that I have shared my story (testimony). Bless you. Any advice?

CURRENTLY 2009; MY QUESTION:

I am not sure about my situation, God sees us much more clearly than we see ourselves. When I observe my life, I don't think I live in a state of moment by moment surrender as I did years ago... But Where to find the will and or desire? Yet can we really do anything, unless he enables us, by His Spirit, possibly its about timing? A wilderness experience is usually for a reason, and for a determined season of time?

At the same time I know God, has made it clear to me that HE looks at the heart. At this time in my life I have been facing many doubts, wondering when God's words will come true...It seems as though I have been in a wilderness for so long....

A long time ago (about 28yrs ago) was the last time I had the Lord speak to me audibly. I was in a Dentist office, and as is the case even now,as it was then 28 yrs ago. ..the Lords presence became so heavy, I stated to cry, the dentist wanted to know if I was in pain? I said no...Then the Lord spoke, He said: "I'm going to take care of the whole thing, I'm going to put it all together for you, just trust me".

I have a strange conviction about surrender, it is in my heart that God desires "ME" to surrender all things; Thoughts, feeling, motivations, desires, time, activities to HIM, moment by moment. Since the flesh wants to live moment by moment, it makes sense that God would desire that kind of surrender from us. For HIM to live through us, moment by moment. (And this was the way I lived yrs ago, as you read in my testimony)....God help me!!! I am daily, always thinking of the Lord, wondering whats going on, about surrender and where is HE, My wilderness is so silent and lonely.

Here is Dream #1:

I was on the head of a beast, in a large body of water (Like the ocean). It was night and the darkness was so real it could be felt. The clouds above were very thick and black. The beast was thrashing as if it wanted to throw me off. I was so afraid!
I was holding on as tight as I could. Then I looked up, and when I did, the clouds opened and rays of light came through the clouds, with the light came that voice that I had heard before and knew so well.

He said "if I'm ever to use you, I must break you"!I woke, wet with sweat, shaking...Saying as I woke, "thank you, Lord you haven't forgotten me"

Here is Dream #2:

I am in a church; it is a large church, one that in reality I have never seen. This was a dream that was so real; it was as if I were really there.

In the dream I am cleaning the bathroom floor, on my hands and knees, with a small brush. I stand as a priest comes into the room. I start to speak to him, about spiritual things, he listens, and then I leave the restroom and enter the foyer.

I notice the large room is built in a round fashion and that the windows are also large. People are leaving to go outside. As I exit the building, an earthquake hits, I look up and the sky is doing this "warp 9 star trek" kind of thing. I look to my left and I notice a man is in his car, his head is bleeding, he is dead.

Everyone starts to rejoice, saying "yes that is the big one"! I yell "No". "There is another one coming, and it is much larger"

I start to run for my home, and as I cross a large open area, I reach what looks like a ditch. I jump, but instead of a ditch it a huge open area, a chasm, the ground thousands of feet below! I start to fall so fast, picking up speed as I fall. I yell out "Jesus save me" Something grabs me and lowers me to the ground gently...I start running again.

Here is Dream number 3.

I see a street sign, the name on the sign is Jordan Road. I am walking and then I get picked up by someone in a van. He asks were I'm going and I tell him a few miles ahead.

Then as we reach the destination, I thank him, and look to my right, there is a house in a field. The house is glowing and the light is emanating from the inside of the house, and is visible to me even from a distance.

I know the people within the house are waiting for me, and that I have been somewhere, doing HIS will / work, and that I traveled in a spiritual way, but arrived back in the van.

The love and light from the house are supernatural, the love I feel for them, and the love I perceive from them is not normal love.

My Story:

I came from a violent home, (drugs, alcohol, gun shots, being chased with knives, people thrown through picture pane windows), in fact I was born three months early because my father kicked my mother in the stomach, breaking her water. I was born weighing two pounds nine ounces.
As early as 7yrs old, I was out on the streets till 3-4am, I was put in several orphanages...

I remember, late one night my father snuck into our house, he put a loaded pistol in my hand and told me too shoot my sisters and my mother, it was crazy. Through all of this, (which I wouldn't change), I came out a fairly normal kid, I was involved in sports and didn't do drugs, or drink. I thought I was a survivor, wanting only too make it through another day.

At the age of 16 I started too sense a need in my life, an emptiness that I couldn't explain.
I knew I had to find God/Jesus, but who was HE? I had no idea where to find HIM, so I went to the local library to find books concerning world religions, God, and the occult. At the library I met Gary Osborn he saw my books and decided to share the message with me. Gary invited me to pray with him and his wife, so I did, I remember saying "God forgive me for my sins, and whatever you have for me I want it all". At first nothing happened I expected, lightening or something. Gary said, "Just go home and praise God" I said, "What's that, mean" Gary said, "Just thank him".

The remaining is sacred to me. Before I asked Jesus into my heart, I never heard voices, I never drank, and I never did drugs, but one week after meeting Jesus while in the middle of my last class, while at school, A voice, just as clear, as someone standing next too you, spoke, the voice spoke, it said to me, "tell them about Jesus" I was surprised, but unafraid, I put my hand over my mouth, since I didn't want anyone to think I was talking to myself, I said (to whoever spoke to me) "I don't know what to say" the voice said "don't be afraid, I'll give you the words to say" To this day I don't remember what I said, but I spoke to those kids about Jesus and salvation, their mouths just dropped open and then, class was over, I walked out of that room, feeling like I had never felt before.

The next day was Saturday; I slept in the living room on an old couch. When I woke it was early and I decided to turn on the TV, to watch my favorite cartoon, the roadrunner. As I sat there watching the TV, I got up and looked outside, everything was so beautiful, (I never appreciated nature, I just wanted too make it through another day). BUT now it was so pretty, I sat back down on the couch, and as I did, all of a sudden I was somewhere else.
I was sitting at a long rough hewn table, to my right was Jesus, in front of me was the father, I couldn't see him, I just knew he was there. To my left was Satan, him I could see (he looked like a man only very big). Instantly three bowls appear, filled with what looked like porridge. Now the father spoke and said Satan dismiss yourself, Satan stood and screamed, then vanished. Three bites were taken out of the bowl. Then all at once I was watching myself from a distance, like watching a big screen TV. I was walking with Jesus up a grassy pathway. Jesus was speaking to me but from a distance I couldn't hear him, I could see myself shaking my head (like I understand) then through my eyes I saw the TV, the cartoon was still playing, I was again in the house, where I had been sleeping.

I didn't know what had happened! I'd never experienced anything like that before! I KNEW GOD loved me and wanted something from me...My total surrender, my life totally under his control, every second, moment by moment, and I was consumed with this one desire, to PLEASE HIM; Let me give you an example: When a friend from school would come over and say, "Let's go to a show" I'd say, "hold on." Then Id go in the bathroom and pray, "Lord should I go?" Sometimes the Lord would say "go", sometimes "no" At times He was silent, when this happened I would look inside my heart, (Spirit) (Colossians 3:15) if I had peace I would go, If not, Id stay home.

As I practiced this new desire, (surrender), I noticed the voice of the Lord became more frequent and clearer, (John 10:27). The word of the Lord will always agree with the true meaning of the scripture. (Although it may not agree with some peoples interpretation of the scriptures). There can be a difference between "the Word" and "the Scriptures".

I new I needed to get a bible, I went to a bookstore and I got the largest family bible Id ever seen, with pictures and everything, lol.
I was so happy. That night the voice of the lord said, "Read Matthew 5." I had to look in the contents; I didn't know where Matthew was. When I found it and started to read, the words became a ("Word of the Lord to me") they just jumped off the page, they seemed to come alive, and they filled me, with hope, love and peace. I knew God loved me, my sins were gone, I was forgiven...

As time passed I grew in Him. Sometimes Id walk into a busy office or building and the Lord would say go sit by that guy. I would strike up a conversation, then say "you don't know me but I'm a Christian and God is going to share with me about your life" I don't mean simple things like "you have the flu" or "Headaches", but deep, personal things that others couldn't know or even guess. People would usually start to cry and ask "how did you know?" I'd say "I didn't but God knew, and He loves you, and sent me to talk with you".

One of the lessons from the Lord concerning trusting Him happened like this; I was traveling from Philly to Atlantic city, I got on the road, and started to hitch a ride, (it wasn't illegal at that time) within one hour and twenty minuets I was in Atlantic city (which was a one hour drive!) I got 4 different rides, as I stepped into each vehicle I boldly proclaimed "Hi I'm a child of the King, and God's going to bless you for picking me up!" God gave me very personal details about each of those people and all but one came to Christ.

When I got to Atlantic City, God said, "when you get to the prayer meeting tonight I want you to give all your money, to Johnnie". I said "Lord that's all I've got?" (About 300.00) God replied; "you take care of your brothers and sisters in the Lord and I'll take care of you." So upon arriving in Atlantic City, I secretly gave all my money to Johnnie, (this was to cover something for Johnnie that was very personal, so I know he didn't share this with anyone).

That night I asked myself "how am I going to get back to work, tomorrow? I didn't have a penny, not even enough for bus fare, and in my spirit I knew I wasn't to hitch hike, but instead the Lord wanted me on the bus. After sleeping that night and leaving the brothers house the next day, I started walking to the bus station. As I got closer and closer, I was imagining, "is the driver going to just "know" he's suppose to let me ride for free?" But as I approached the depot, a brother named "Chicky" came out of his house and said "I think the Lord wants me to give this to you." It was exactly what I needed for bus fare!

This has been a short summary of my life.

Oh one more thing. Life didn't continue this way for me, I ruined that.
Should I confess the most difficult thing in my life with you?
After all we are strangers!
After living this way for sometime and seeing my life change, and having peace beyond comprehension. I disobeyed the lord after he spoke too me. I lived to obey him, it was my passion…But there was a problem in my life that God wanted to fix. (God wants us to love Him most of all. He doesn't want anyone else to even be a close second place in our life.)
I knew a man, he was a believer, and his name was Bob. Bob is dead now, I loved him very much, he was like the father I didn't have. One day I went to visit Bob, we talked and prayed for a while then Bob said, "Paula is gone (Bob's wife). "Why don't you go to dinner with me"? Immediately the Lord spoke "don't go! I said "Bobby I can't go". He said "go with me". I said "Bob I can't". I prayed back to the lord, in my mind saying "Lord it will be alright, you know I don't drink, I'll just eat something with Bob" The Lord didn't reply. So we went. All was well until a brother named Aggie started to argue with Bob. I couldn't watch, so I started to leave, as I went outside Bob said "if your going to walk you might as well walk all the way back too Washington, and don't come back" OH the pain. Well the next morning, Bob and Paula showed up, Bob said "forgive me I'm so sorry", the Lord spoke instantly and said "forgive him, go to him tell him it's ok and that you love him". I said "Lord I can't. I won't, it hurts too bad". So. My life, outside of God's will, was torture. No peace, no answers, sin in total control.

Jean Nicholas Grou says, "God delights in two things, for a man to know God and to know himself." I now know what I'm capable of without him, living life for myself, Sinning, being rebellious.










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"I confess to Almighty God,
and to you my brothers,
that I have sinned exceedingly
in thought, word, act and omission,
through my fault, through my fault,
through my most grievous fault"

Everything I've ever done
Everything I ever do
Every place I've ever been
Everywhere I'm going to
It's a sin

Father, forgive me, I tried not to do it
Turned over a new leaf, then tore right through it
Whatever you taught me, I didn't believe it
Father, you fought me, 'cause I didn't care
And I still don't understand

So I look back upon my life
Forever with a sense of shame
I've always been the one to blame
For everything I long to do
No matter when or where or who
Has one thing in common, too
It's a sin

What I Know is this:

The only thing that matters in our lives is whether or not we surrender Unto The Father.

Complete surrender without reservation.
No holding back.
"Father God, please take all of me, the good and the bad, me with all my failings; and do with me as Thou Wilt. I promise to seek to do your will, not mine, as long as I live."

Ever really capitulate? Give HIM your life fully and completely holding nothing back?

Even Christ Jesus in the Garden of Gaethsemane had to accept HIS Father's Will. God's Will IS Always Perfect!


It has been my witness for many years, since first being Given Witness of John Ch 3, that anyone who ever truly Loved Christ Jesus will not be lost or condemned. Only those who were Born-Again, and subsequently spurned The Father to return unto self will be dealt with severely.

Only In-HIM can we live our lives in confidence and assurance.
HE Makes our way, and HIS Way IS Always Perfect!

If we are In-HIM, our blood is on HIS Hands!
There never was and never will be a better way to live.

If you are HIS, all you have and own is HIS.
All that is, IS HIS anyway, except your life!
All you own that you can give HIM is your life!

If you Love HIM and know that HE Loves you too, what do you have to lose?

I choose life, but if forced to leave my home for vaccination, quarantine or whatever tptb have cooked up I am prepared to die and that may mean taking some out with me. How will I be judged when that happens? What happens if I have to kill thugs or gangsters who want to take my house, food, water, etc? Will my actions of killing others be justified in the eyes of God? Guns and ammo are part of my preparedness!

Eternal Father, I offer You the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.

For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

Holy God, Holy Mighty One, Holy Immortal One, have mercy on us and on the whole world.

i don't want your hands on my blood...