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MUST READ!!! Former Police Officer Challenges Court Jurisdiction

 
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On the day of April 20, 2009, a Free man on the land commonly known as Martin Earl: Fisher went to the business office of The Navajo County Court. I went to present the PERSON, a legal fiction which lives only in a fictional world of Legist Personas Case No. CR2009-0303, Navajo County, Arizona .

I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.

The charge was taken to a grand jury who returned a true bill. The amount of my fee was about $50,000 Federal Reserve Notes, since us gold and silver coins can only lawfully be exchanged for face value of the coin.

I got no response, so my offer was accepted and my fee agreed to. (I will explain how I will collect later). BTW, the charge was for every order given that I chose to fulfill. Then I went on about the Law, her oath of office, blah blah, I am the master, she is the servant, blah blah. UCC, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, COMMON LAW reservation of rights the works.

So, the man goes to court and the security guard gives me a piece of paper with some mumbo jumbo about how the hearing was not until next week. I took a blue pen, wrote on the paper, "ACCEPTED FOR VALUE RETURNED FOR VALUE BY: my signature, WITHOUT PREJUDICE AND REFUSAL FOR CAUSE FOR MARTIN E. FISHER" I gave it back to him and told him to give it to the judge.

A few min. later, another guard handed me a motion paper to fill out and submit so I could try to have the hearing today. I did not fill it out. Sovereigns do not PLEAD, they simply request and their servants fulfill the request (the Law of Kings). Lest you think I am boasting or Ego filled, you must remember everyone working for the Government is a SWORN PUBLIC SERVANT; it is their oath and duty to SERVE the public.

So, I notice that the name and case is marked out on the calendar, I go into the court room anyway. The so called Honorable judge walks in and everyone but me stands up. (Standing for another human is not equality; she does not stand when I enter the room). She is wearing her black Priest Robe, so the show begins. There are two armed bailiffs there just for little ole' me.

If you have never seen your Government in action, go to any court and watch the show. They always make the PERSON say their name and walk past the "BAR" (this is the act of getting on a ship, and subjecting your "PERSON" to Maritime Jurisdiction and leaving the land) Look at the Flag of any court room, it will have a gold fringe around it, this is a Maritime Flag or military Flag, it gives away the fact you are not on the land, but 'under' Admiralty jurisdiction and a passenger on a ship. The list of names and cases outside the court is a passenger list and ship manifest, just like the old days for getting on a ship. This is why, if you board the ship and complain about your "Constitutional Rights" the judge will give you a contempt charge. The Captain of the ship has control of the ship while on the water, the Constitution is the law of the Land, you just left the land if you gave your name, respond to any title (Mr. Mrs. DEFENDANT, whatever) or walked



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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.
 Quoting: maya12-21-2012


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454845


God supposedly gave authority to the Constitution, which cant possibly happen.

The Constitution supposedly gave its fraudulent authority to the fraudulent Courts, which made the fraudulent laws which also have no authority or jurisdiction.

You are neither party to the signing of the Constitution nor under its fraudulent urisdiction or any fraudulent Courts jurisdiction.

You are neither in Court even if your CAPITAL NAME is in court.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454845


Yeah, that is why the judge left the room instead of having him removed. Do you suspect there might be just a little power behind what he is saying?

If you want to know the truth about what has really been going on watch this series:

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He is Canadian, but it is all basically the same as all the courts in Canada are also admiralty. You are Sovereign if you act like one.
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Excellent. I have done a similar thing, I am on the land called Vancouver British columbia (Canada).

It works, all you have to do is know who you are and what you are not.

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Well, well, I did not realize my story was here. For you nay saying peons who doubt it is the truth, Google it yourself.

Navajo County Arizona public access (case look up) Case #CR 2009-0303. Navajo Superior Court. You can get the phone number and call them yourself, the NAME is listed as Restricted, but if you go into the case, you will see the name, the charge and the notes on the case.

Ignorance of the Law is no excuse. There were other people in the court room and the case is public record, go to the court, pay them some money and you can get the transcripts of exactly what happend, dont take my word for it, find out for yourself.

MODS SHOULD HAVE PINNED THIS! Not one Act, statute or rule they pass has any power over you without your consent, this case is proof and only one of many.

Research it yourself. I know, because I DID IT!
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bump for TRUTH, please, someone prove me wrong! I got into this stuff to prove it wrong and I have done the exact opposite!!

Learn your rights, open your eyes.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454845


Uh, yeah, you are an idiot, it did work you MORON, so go back to sleep or learn something and wake the hell up.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454845


Silence is consent, read the UCC, dont go thinking you know something you dont, the Court is a Corporation, listed on Dunn and Bradstreet as such and the UCC is the LAW for the court and NO RESPONSE IS ACCEPTANCE OF OFFER/CONTRACT. Sorry to inform you of thier rules, but thats the way it works. Peace to you.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.


Uh, yeah, you are an idiot, it did work you MORON, so go back to sleep or learn something and wake the hell up.
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so did you collect your fee?
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so did you collect your fee?
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Served the judge a true bill 72 hours later. Letting the debt cure for 30 days, which will be in 2 more days. Will serve a FINAL NOTICE TO PAY. Then I will file all the paper work to get a default judgement via a Notary Public and serve it to the County Clerk and record it with the County Recorder and serve the Accounts payable of the County.

If they do nothing, I will be able to get a lean on the Judges personal property via one of her fellow Judges. That is the plan right now.

Not legal advice.
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BTW, since Congress sets the value of the coins via their Constitution, the value of the coin is FACE value, thats right, a $50 dollar gold piece is only worth $50. So, at nearly 1000 Federal reserve notes per ounce of Gold, the Judges owes the Agent about $50,000 in fees as of right now.
Plus any collection fees I, as AGENT see fit to add.

Still wondering why she never gave me another ORDER or had me removed from MY court? I am not cheap and she knows my fee, and she is PERSONALLY LIABLE for it. She agreed to that already and she knows it.

The Law is a beautiful thing.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 454845


Failure to respond to a offer timely is a dishonour
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Update on the case, I had a 3rd party check the case file, there is nothing pending on the case, only a letter from the county attorney telling them to instruct the defendant to file a formal request for jurisdiction, which they tried to do already, I just sent it back to them with a note. The note said, "Since you have not identified the DEFENDANT and have not proven jurisdiction over ME, I will not be filing anything with your Company until the debt I am owed via the contract with your employee has been paid in full."

There was no signature on the DOCKETT ENTRY they sent me.
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Failure to respond to a offer timely is a dishonour
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EXACTLY true!! Good to see others who know this, it is vital to understanding Honor and truth. Peace to you.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.


Failure to respond to a offer timely is a dishonour
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but failure to respond is not an automatic agreement to a contract.
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Update on the case, I had a 3rd party check the case file, there is nothing pending on the case, only a letter from the county attorney telling them to instruct the defendant to file a formal request for jurisdiction, which they tried to do already, I just sent it back to them with a note. The note said, "Since you have not identified the DEFENDANT and have not proven jurisdiction over ME, I will not be filing anything with your Company until the debt I am owed via the contract with your employee has been paid in full."

There was no signature on the DOCKETT ENTRY they sent me.
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If they have 50K of your money, they don't want you to come back. They've probably already spent it.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.


Failure to respond to a offer timely is a dishonour


but failure to respond is not an automatic agreement to a contract.
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It is if the contract stipuates it is. She is in dishonor, that is why she tried to postpone the hearing another week, so she could try to get out of the fact she was LAWFULLY NOTICED of my fee, I sent it registered, return reciept, restricted deliver to her and it was signed for.

That is proof of service and the contract clearly stated she HAD to respond within the time alloted or it was self-exectuting. That is her law, not mine.
Peace.
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I, as an Agent of the PERSON had already served, via registered US Mail a NOTICE on the Judge that I reserved all of my rights and charged a fee of $2500 in Gold and silver coin of the united States for acting as Agent of the PERSON. I gave her 24 hours to reject my offer to serve as an agent over the account by dropping the charge with prejudice. If she did not, I would consider my offer accepted and fulfill the order to present the PERSON at a hearing.


uh yeah, that's not how it works.
you can't enter into such a contract without approval of the other party, and failure to respond is not approval.

this guy is nuts.


Failure to respond to a offer timely is a dishonour


but failure to respond is not an automatic agreement to a contract.

It is if the contract stipuates it is. She is in dishonor, that is why she tried to postpone the hearing another week, so she could try to get out of the fact she was LAWFULLY NOTICED of my fee, I sent it registered, return reciept, restricted deliver to her and it was signed for.

That is proof of service and the contract clearly stated she HAD to respond within the time alloted or it was self-exectuting. That is her law, not mine.
Peace.
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i'm sorry, but you cannot force someone into a contract in this manner.
go ahead and try to get the money out of them, it will never happen.
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i'm sorry, but you cannot force someone into a contract in this manner.
go ahead and try to get the money out of them, it will never happen.
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I am sorry for your ignorance, but SHE made the offer to me via an ORDER TO APPEAR or face arrest. What the hell do you think she tried to do to me? Then she had armed men try to force the DEFENDANT from the room! My contract was a counter offer to her offer, I did not just write a contract and send to her. GET IT?

She tried to ORDER me to do something, I told her I would be happy to do what she said, to avoid being arrested by armed men, but that I charged a FEE to do so, she accepted that fee by not withdrawing her order.

You need to do some more study on contract law, my friend, your statments are false. Her business opend an account and then gave me an order, which I fullfilled with full and Lawful notice of my fee to do so.

She is in dishonor, not me.
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i'm sorry, but you cannot force someone into a contract in this manner.
go ahead and try to get the money out of them, it will never happen.
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You go into a business with the prices clearly listed for service, give them an order which they fill honorably then dont pay them and see what happens. That is commercial LAW, she came to me as an agent of a Corporation, sent me a ORDER signed by her own hand. I sent a fee schedual and she did not withdraw the order. I, as agent, fullfilled the ORDER and now she owes me a fee.

It is that simple and that legal.
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i'm sorry, but you cannot force someone into a contract in this manner.
go ahead and try to get the money out of them, it will never happen.


You go into a business with the prices clearly listed for service, give them an order which they fill honorably then dont pay them and see what happens. That is commercial LAW, she came to me as an agent of a Corporation, sent me a ORDER signed by her own hand. I sent a fee schedual and she did not withdraw the order. I, as agent, fullfilled the ORDER and now she owes me a fee.

It is that simple and that legal.
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but there was no agreement on her part to fulfill your terms.

you sent in your terms of agreement, she did not reply, which means she did not enter into the contract. the 24 period was part of your terms, and since she didn't agree to the terms that's not something that can be held against her. you cannot form a binding contract based on failure to respond.
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i'm sorry, but you cannot force someone into a contract in this manner.
go ahead and try to get the money out of them, it will never happen.


You go into a business with the prices clearly listed for service, give them an order which they fill honorably then dont pay them and see what happens. That is commercial LAW, she came to me as an agent of a Corporation, sent me a ORDER signed by her own hand. I sent a fee schedual and she did not withdraw the order. I, as agent, fullfilled the ORDER and now she owes me a fee.

It is that simple and that legal.
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I'm going to call you if I ever need a lawyer.
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i'm sorry, but you cannot force someone into a contract in this manner.
go ahead and try to get the money out of them, it will never happen.


You go into a business with the prices clearly listed for service, give them an order which they fill honorably then dont pay them and see what happens. That is commercial LAW, she came to me as an agent of a Corporation, sent me a ORDER signed by her own hand. I sent a fee schedual and she did not withdraw the order. I, as agent, fullfilled the ORDER and now she owes me a fee.

It is that simple and that legal.


but there was no agreement on her part to fulfill your terms.

you sent in your terms of agreement, she did not reply, which means she did not enter into the contract. the 24 period was part of your terms, and since she didn't agree to the terms that's not something that can be held against her. you cannot form a binding contract based on failure to respond.
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Again, you go to a business and make an order, you say nothing about the price, they fulfill the order, you pay. Silence is acceptance, I am sorry you do not understand the UCC, but that is their Law. Your ingnorance of the Law is not an excuse for her, nor would it be for you if you did the same thing. Try it in court and see what happens to you.

Acceptance by silence is a persumption in commercial law. Good day and peace to you.
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bump yoda

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but there was no agreement on her part to fulfill your terms.

you sent in your terms of agreement, she did not reply, which means she did not enter into the contract. the 24 period was part of your terms, and since she didn't agree to the terms that's not something that can be held against her. you cannot form a binding contract based on failure to respond.
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Dang, so you mean to tell me, that I hold no liability to respond or appear in court for a small claims case for non payment? I'm ordered to court by the 28th, and if I do not show, then the judge can find for the plaintiff, and order me to pay the fee contested.

But by your logic, I dont need to reply or appear, because I in no way agreed to the terms? That's good to know. Can I get your name, address, phone # and such so I can let the judge know it was you who advised me that I am not bound by any contract I did not agree to enter into, since it was based on their terms, not mine?

Awaiting info.
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bump yoda

Ahhhhhhh, it's nice to watch a free man in action!
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Thank you, and for the record, I could not care less if she never pays me one cent. My freedom has no price, it was bought with the blood of thousands of american men, women and children who gave up everything so I could have the freedom to stand up and tell a so called 'judge' to stick her Satutory color of authority up her black dress. Then have her leave her own bench while I stayed there, one of the people, standing on dry ground and walking out of there with my blood bought FREEDOM!

That is something no amount of money can buy or be sold for.
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Dang, so you mean to tell me, that I hold no liability to respond or appear in court for a small claims case for non payment? I'm ordered to court by the 28th, and if I do not show, then the judge can find for the plaintiff, and order me to pay the fee contested.

But by your logic, I dont need to reply or appear, because I in no way agreed to the terms? That's good to know. Can I get your name, address, phone # and such so I can let the judge know it was you who advised me that I am not bound by any contract I did not agree to enter into, since it was based on their terms, not mine?

Awaiting info.
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if i'm understanding the story correctly, this is all due to a ticket for driving with a suspended license, is that correct? you agreed to the terms when you got the license.
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Former Police Officer Challenges Court Jurisdiction
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On the day of April 20, 2009, a Free man on the land commonly known as Martin Earl: Fisher went to the business office of The Navajo County Court. I went to present the PERSON, a legal fiction which lives only in a fictional world of Legist Personas Case No. CR2009-0303, Navajo County, Arizona .

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Now THAT is a MORAN, and a king-sized one.



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Now THAT is a MORAN, and a king-sized one.

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He prevailed , whats moranic about that?
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