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Is NASA Lying About Mars's Color? More evidence the Mars Rover missions were faked.

 
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This is good to but you have to fast forward a minute and a half for the good stuff:

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sorry, had to do it.
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eh. If they can fake the moon landing, why bother going to mars either?
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eh. If they can fake the moon landing, why bother going to mars either?
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Great 45 minute video:

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eh. If they can fake the moon landing, why bother going to mars either?
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It all comes down to simple gullibility, NASA has packaged everything so professionally, how could anyone believe that the Rovers are actually in a secluded desert location somewhere on Earth.

Perish the thoughts, how could NASA possibly be as deceptive as that, after all it is not in the bureaucrats favor to deliberately trick/hoax people is it?
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Re: Is NASA Lying About Mars's Color? More evidence the Mars Rover missions were faked.
if you got to the link it shows a better representation of mars from space and its not red.

[link to www.marsanomalyresearch.com]
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Is NASA Lying About Mars's Color? More evidence the Mars Rover missions were faked.
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I watched the videos and of course I think anyone that has messed with those images already knows that the colors are tampered with.

However I think they tamper with the colors to hide the truth and to make mars look very univiting, baron and desert like.

I hestitate to then jump to the opinion that they never went there and those images were taken on earth. I think their rovers went to mars.

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I honestly do believe we are being lied to about the true colors on Mars, but I don't believe that the missions are faked. I have a good friend who is on the main panel of scientists that decide where to rovers go and I trust him when he says that the rovers are really on Mars.

I've asked him about the colors, and he just says that they are showing Mars the way people expect Mars to look, so they won't say that they look faked because of blue skies and such.

There ya go.

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Well, if people will buy Slap Chops, they'll buy NASA's bullshit to.
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I honestly do believe we are being lied to about the true colors on Mars, but I don't believe that the missions are faked. I have a good friend who is on the main panel of scientists that decide where to rovers go and I trust him when he says that the rovers are really on Mars.

I've asked him about the colors, and he just says that they are showing Mars the way people expect Mars to look, so they won't say that they look faked because of blue skies and such.

There ya go.

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not very scientific of them
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The problem is that you can see Mars in a backyard telescope and it IS that reddish color.
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The problem is that you can see Mars in a backyard telescope and it IS that reddish color.
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The images taken by the mars rover were not of mars.
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Re: Is NASA Lying About Mars's Color? More evidence the Mars Rover missions were faked.
I absolutely and implicitly believe that the colors shown in all NASA materials about Mars depict the "wrong" colors. And I have professional experience to back me up.

Here's your reading list:

Color Space
Chromatic Adaption
Bezold–Brücke Shift/Purkinje Effect
Color Temperature
Abney Effect
Color Temperature
White Point


And then you might want to read a little about the design and use of CCD systems and filters for extra-planet geology.
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it must be a hell of a fake. Mars even has a red tint when I use my own telescope.
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it must be a hell of a fake. Mars even has a red tint when I use my own telescope.
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The images taken by the mars rover were not of mars.
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eh. If they can fake the moon landing, why bother going to mars either?

It all comes down to simple gullibility, NASA has packaged everything so professionally, how could anyone believe that the Rovers are actually in a secluded desert location somewhere on Earth.

Perish the thoughts, how could NASA possibly be as deceptive as that, after all it is not in the bureaucrats favor to deliberately trick/hoax people is it?
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NASA was created to funnel massive amounts money to white, male southerners so that they could continue their Confederate policies. Period. End of story.
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Re: Is NASA Lying About Mars's Color? More evidence the Mars Rover missions were faked.
if you got to the link it shows a better representation of mars from space and its not red.

[link to www.marsanomalyresearch.com]
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Whee.

The man did a very nice job clipping lots of big photographs of Mars. Give him credit for that.

But he could have spent the same time getting on to a decent 'scope and watching a couple of transits. Quick test -- if Mars has a breathable atmosphere, a star observed in transit will dim out instead of blink out.

Pity he prefers to spend his time on the internet instead of looking up.



Psst....I always think of Mars as a custard color, myself. That's what it looked like in my shoddy old 'scope those long winter nights when I was most interested in Astronomy. But I can understand the color being deepened a bit for publication purposes. It looks dramatic, and it brings out more of the detail.
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I watched the videos and of course I think anyone that has messed with those images already knows that the colors are tampered with.
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I can see Nasa has a love for grey cameras and low res cameras. Even Japan talk of high resolution and show us a complete shit compared to our 12 megapixel camera everybody in the planet can buy for 200 euros or less.

Why Nasa lies about Mars colors?

First photos on Mars (Viking probe?) show a orange looking world. It was like the Moon movies done in Earth and the goal of these movies were explain where the huuuuuuge budget was. The public was said it was in space expeeeensive exploration, instead of telling them it was on multiple and multiple and more multiple deep tunneling facilities to hide from people and perform experiments in advanced physics and genetics and computers. Of course also much of the money was to the pockets of the parasites that govern us.

Then Nasa had a problem, they thought that the sky in mars would look orange. Years later when they were there they viewed that the sky was more blue, more earthly. And they can't publish that because it would reveal multiple fake movies they did. So they mounted only grey cameras and as they explained the aproximate color was obtained merging the three filter camera photos and they recognized some months/near 1 year ago that they were doing the mix badly. So the color photos they release now are much better than previously but still not correct. You can't see any comment about it in science publications etc. They live in a dangerous world where funds are cut if you makes wrong steps.

In the second OP video you can clearly see the pixelization in the horizont and the desaparition of blues and OP is correct it was that option in Photoshop used what does that.

First video from OP was from a skeptical guy ridiculing people that believes that Nasa lies us. Well: Nasa lies us in all the UFOs that are visible in the infrarred around Earth, and Nasa lies us in the Moon movies, and Nasa lies us about Mars life (you can find a video on youtube of a ESA man talking off camera that there is life in Mars).

This is a fucking nightmare we are enjoying here in Earth. But probably all is good, karma must continue playing until the end of the cycle. Souls are choosing sides with their acts.
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The images taken by the mars rover were not of mars.
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I just can't believe that but thats just my opinion. I came to my opinion after looking at thousands of rover images as well as thousands of Orbiter images.

If those images were done on earth then there would be no reason to blur out many images and I've seen some. Why would you take a picture on earth and then have to hide something in that image? it doesn't make sense.

One image comes to mind where they blured out about 90 percent of the image and I had to wonder why they even bothered to release it. When you have looked at as many of those images as I had you even get to the point that you can recognise the shapes that they blurred out and the parts that were not blurred out you could get a good ideal of what they were trying to hide. In the case of the image i referred to they were hiding hundreds of crocidile monuments/stautues, almost as far as the eye could see. I wish I had saved that image.
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Re: Is NASA Lying About Mars's Color? More evidence the Mars Rover missions were faked.
I proved this to my own satisfaction and many others a few years ago.

Here's how you prove it to yourself...

Find a picture of the rovers that was taken on Earth.

Find a picture of the same part of the rovers taken on Mars.

There is a color wheel on the rover you can focus on to color correct the picture taken on mars until it matches the picture taken on Earth.

When you are done, the sky will be blue, and the rocks will have many colors other than red. It looks more like Arizona than traditional pics of Mars when you are done.

This can be done easily with Photoshop. Try it.

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I can see Nasa has a love for grey cameras and low res cameras.
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Filters, actually. When you got to make every shot count, don't go Cannon, go filters that maximize the scientific data gained. Tourist pics take second place.

Even Japan talk of high resolution...
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Did it. Which was pretty much the purpose of the mission; few scientific instruments, but fly a decent camera. Kinda like Apollo 11; they picked up a rock or two but really that was the test flight, the "we did it" flight. Missions after that, they sat down to some solid geology. Err, lunology.

and show us a complete shit compared to our 12 megapixel camera everybody in the planet can buy for 200 euros or less.
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And what's you link budget? The restriction here is the size of the antenna and the power consumed, not the pixels in the camera. Compare, say, analog TV to a computer monitor. Analog TV is roughly equivalent to an old-style 13" CPU (640 x 480). DVD, with all the nifty compression it uses, is still a pixel width considerably less than most people's computer monitors. Transmission and storage is the bugaboo here, not the size of the negative.


You can't see any comment about it in science publications etc.
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Actually, if you read commentaries at APOD, or in astronomy and astrophotography forums, or read blogs by, say, Hubble imaging specialists, you'll get an earful about what "true color" is and how it is effectively unachievable. And endless debates about what color Mars would look if you were actually there (its a complicated question, both from the body of assumptions you need to nail down first, and the realities of physiological and psychological optics).

In fact, if you read even at the better digital art forums, or hung out with cinematographers or lighting designers or print specialists or graphic designers you'd get an earful about color theory. But that might be too much work for you.
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[link to forensicphotoshop.blogspot.com]

Image>Adjustments>Auto Levels - Auto Levels expands the tonal range (and contrast) by simply "commanding that the darkest pixels shall be black and the lightest ones shall be white." The intermediate pixels are spread over the range in between. There is a slight clipping with the default settings, the first 0.10% of either extreme.

Colour casts can sometimes be corrected with Auto Levels, if the cast is a result of the way brightness values are distributed amongst the channels. The correction takes into account the histograms of the individual channels.

This leads to one of the problems in using Auto Levels. It can create an unwanted shift in colours. If you want to use Auto Levels (Layer>New Adjustment Layer>Levels), change the Blending Mode of the adjustment layer to Luminosity to cancel out the colour shift (if any shift occurs). Conversely, if you want the colour correction without affecting tone, change the Blending Mode of the adjustment layer to Color.
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Mars isnt red, its never been red, its more brown, it just looks red because the dust in its atmosphere colours the light that way.
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I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell ya!
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My problem is not with the red images they release. I wish they would release more of them because the real colors are embedded in them and you can work around that.

I just hate the fact that most of the Rover images are released in black and white and there is no way to get any color out of them. And its very clear that they have the color images of the black and white images that they do not release.

My other problem with them is how they take the good images and blow them up and then take an picture of the blown up image and thats what they release to the public. Once you download one of these crap images and try to blow it up they start to blur real fast because the pixels have been washed out of them.



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Re: Is NASA Lying About Mars's Color? More evidence the Mars Rover missions were faked.
When NASA's lips are moving, they're lying.

Mars colors up exactly the same, with proportional hues, as earth or Venus or Mars.

It's red only because NASA wants it red.
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Why do you think the colors are actually Earth-like? Could it be because they actually ARE pictures of desert scenes FROM Earth?
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I honestly do believe we are being lied to about the true colors on Mars, but I don't believe that the missions are faked. I have a good friend who is on the main panel of scientists that decide where to rovers go and I trust him when he says that the rovers are really on Mars.

I've asked him about the colors, and he just says that they are showing Mars the way people expect Mars to look, so they won't say that they look faked because of blue skies and such.

There ya go.

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Your friend would not know they aren't on mars.

They are in Antarctica.

And there is a testing grounds there for the rovers as a cover as well.

And it is kept air tight with security. To the point where they got Richard Hoagland to come on art Bell, and try to flush out anyone who might have any inclination to tell anyone anything about it.

He was supposed to be on the side of those looking for information claiming NASA was fraudulent about the moon, but always had their information about Casini and all the rest.

They had to shut the rover cameras off one time when it started to snow.

There has been lots of stuff, that shows they are not on Mars.

But they are good at faking it and good at covering things up and good at secrecy.

Beagle went there and it just crashed, because of course all the data from the US is useless.
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How much do you know about the quote unquote conspiracy?
How much do you know about the paparazzi and signing, and the S5 level or any of that?

Well they know about that at NASA, that I have access to the S5 level and take girls to the S5 level, which is a virtual space and girls sign through the paparazzi or anywhere for me to do that and here is a sample of what it is like, to be in the loop.

[link to www.techchee.com]

When girls sign me, they use hand signals, and so that signal is no heterosexual male sex for me thank you.

So the writers of that page, are saying its a girl, saying she is waiting for a bus, because in Hollywood, they stand there on the street as if they were waiting for a bus and sign me.


And I pick them up once a week or so for parties.

Everyone knows about that c'mon. So of course NASA knows about that.

Now there is more to this as to why NASA is involved and it is because that is a representation of the same person who was represented by the Face on Mars.

And thats Chupee, and he is the os of the instinctual layer of the conscious computer.

I wrote all about it today under Zombies of Doom 2012

Anyways, he is saying he is not going down.

So then, a guy faked a bigfoot in a freezer and said thats fine, but what about us?

And the reply through the galactic mainframe from Robert, a sentient helper inside the conscious computer on the instinctual layer waS!

And I quote...
[link to ipicture.ru]

Nah nah na boo boo.


Hey! Want to see a funny video I took this weekend here that shows a woman signing me in person?

I thought you would...


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