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| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/17/2009 10:30 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
[link to img268.imageshack.us]
Still as gorgeous as you ever were.
You know its horny season so we have to go out for some fun this week. |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/17/2009 10:50 PM | | phil from uk
User ID: 701375
6/18/2009 1:46 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Well well well, so its a computer inside the "moon" now is it which is controlling or guiding us? wellity wellity well, good old glp ayy and its amazing clarificational "facts".
Lets see, but first what do i know? evidently not alot, babe in a bunker probably knows less other than her little sordid dream over sum defunk hollywood actor.
But wait, im not saying none of this is true, i didnt read it all however i read alot scanned the rest got a good idea of it. You have possibly answered certain questions regarding certain movies that i had been thinking about over the last few years.
Well i guess anything is possible in this crazy ass world and only time will tell. Computer program inside the moon ayy, well its a nice concept thats for sure.
Going back to that "babe in a bunker" you were right about one thing, we are all gonna die. |
| Babe in a Bunker 
Jockin the Bitches, Slappin the Hoes
User ID: 688243
6/18/2009 2:55 PM
 | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Going back to that "babe in a bunker" you were right about one thing, we are all gonna die. Quoting: phil from uk 701375
...and soon, but not before I figure out my relationship with Jude Law.
You got it bad lover,
no, you got it good.
You saw the sun
like you knew that you would...
in spite of my confusion,
up above all my pain
I gotta death-grip on this vision,
here we go again...
********************
Kick my ass:
[link to biab1973.mybrute.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 272605
6/18/2009 4:55 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Going back to that "babe in a bunker" you were right about one thing, we are all gonna die.
...and soon, but not before I figure out my relationship with Jude Law. Quoting: Babe in a Bunker
Well, Babe, I think the main thing to ask yourself is whether you have established a relationship with Jude Law beforehand. Otherwise, how would he possibly know to send signals in sets of candids?
But if there's any doubt, Survivor (the expert in this matter) could make the call if you show him the images.
Let's not get carried away here...it's likely just wishful thinking on your part. |
| R
User ID: 701604
6/18/2009 6:29 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
For Survivor X and anyone interested.
Another interesting sideline is the experiences of Phil K. Dick - who wrote the original Blade Runner story, and Total Recall, films many may know here. Just to cut back to the 1970's and what was going on not only with music but with some perceptions.
Valis is an acronym Phil developed - Vast Active Living Information System - for a Conscious Computer he became aware of, or he artistically rendered into his later novels. The experiences he had took place in 1974.
"VALIS has been described as one node of an artificial satellite network originating from the star Sirius in the Canis Major constellation. According to Dick, the Earth satellite used "pink laser beams" to transfer information and project holograms on Earth and to facilitate communication between an extraterrestrial species and humanity. Dick claimed that VALIS used "disinhibiting stimuli" to communicate, using symbols to trigger recollection of intrinsic knowledge through the loss of amnesia, achieving gnosis. Drawing directly from Platonism and Gnosticism, Dick wrote in his Exegesis: "We appear to be memory coils (DNA carriers capable of experience) in a computer-like thinking system which, although we have correctly recorded and stored thousands of years of experiential information, and each of us possesses somewhat different deposits from all the other life forms, there is a malfunction - a failure - of memory retrieval."
And -
"On February 3rd, 1974, shortly before the publication of Flow My Tears, while Dick was recovering from the sodium pentothal he'd received during oral surgery, the doorbell rang. It was a delivery person, a young woman who happened to be wearing a gold icthus (a groovy '70s Christian fish symbol) on a chain around her neck. Somehow the sight of the fish, plus his mental state at the time, plus the sodium pentothal, added up to a weeks-long flood of visions (Dick saw the Roman world of the Book of Acts stacked "holographically" atop the present), visual hallucinations ("It appeared-in vivid fire, with shining colors and balanced patterns-and released me from every thrall, inner and outer"), and a constant stream of cryptic messages (like "The Buddha is in the park"), often from the radio. Later, having studied Orphic, Gnostic, Zoroastrian, and Buddhist thought, books on brain chemistry, and the Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Dick decided that he'd probably experienced "genetic memories," or what Plato called anamnesis-the "recollection" of eternal truths. Or something.
After these experiences, as he noted in his Exegesis (a lengthy, handwritten journal devoted to theorizing about the events of "2-3-74"), he realized that the world really was "cardboard, a fake,"
Kind Regards,
R |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 7:26 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Going back to that "babe in a bunker" you were right about one thing, we are all gonna die.
...and soon, but not before I figure out my relationship with Jude Law.
Well, Babe, I think the main thing to ask yourself is whether you have established a relationship with Jude Law beforehand. Otherwise, how would he possibly know to send signals in sets of candids?
But if there's any doubt, Survivor (the expert in this matter) could make the call if you show him the images.
Let's not get carried away here...it's likely just wishful thinking on your part. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272605
Well I know these Hollywood hunks so well, that when we were talking about it, they came out and made comments as well.
That is to say they jokingly offered their services for a fun night on the imaginary town on the S5 level.
But they also know me very well, and know that I can't do that. Its against our little group rules because then everyone would want that. I can't put male celebs together with people any more than I could put female celebs together with other guys.
Things in our group are kept very intimate and very private and very discreet and it has to be that way to avoid conflicts and controversy. You have to understand that this is part of the match making thing, the reason I came here, although since we have access to the S5 level, I can share with a few other girls as well to be friendly sociable and because I know them or have known them previously. But we don't want it to get out of hand. For one thing the girls I take there from Hollywood need that break from their stressful lives, and so we preserve it as is, free from conflict and baggage and complications, so it is always a nice place to visit, and people who go there know what to expect. I don't want them to feel stressed out going there, that would be the opposite of what I want.
I like it the way it is, that we all look forward to spending some quality time together and having some good clean fun. Its a huge part of our lives. Too precious to mess with. |
| Suvivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 7:50 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
I will tell you a little story...
Angelina is in Washington DC today for Refuge Day along with National Geographic. You know she does a lot of charity work for refugee kids. So she was signing me there today and she signed me with a reference to other similar times when she has been in that position, she made a reference I think to the time she was at Davos.
But today is Thursday also, and historically Thursday has been either my day to be a lone wolf and date other girls, or Bridge Night. Thursday being a day set aside for you know wood. Specifically, and the reason we used to call it bridge night was because on Thursday, for some reason, just because it worked out that way with the parties we have all week, that on Thursday there would be enough wood, to build a bridge over the river Kwai. So that is why we used to say on Thursday that we were playing bridge.
So tonight we are playing bridge.
Anyways Megan arrived back in L.A. today, and she wants me to pick her up tonight as well, but a bunch of us will still go out, but I will sleep with Megan to keep her happy.
I used to go out with Stacy Dash, before I started going out with Angelina, and she signed me yesterday, because this time of year, it is the time of year when you want to you know, touch base with people who mean something to you.
And there s a number of girls who I have gone out with, so Megan will have to be a little patient with me, since ordinarily that might upset someone you are going out with, under these circumstances, to go out on dates with your ex girlfriends and stuff, but its just that time of year. It doesn't mean we are going to start going out again, but we want to stay on good terms. Its difficult to explain in earthly terms. Its horny season for one thing, and we may not be still going out, they may have gone off and gotten married, but we still have feelings for each other and want to have some fun together for old times sake.
Its a little more complicated than that even but thats as close as I can come to explaining why I am taking a bunch of my ex girlfriends out this time of year. And I still will take out the girls I usually take out as well like Kristen Bell who I usually take out on Thursday.
But so that Megan does not feel left out I will sleep with her alone tonight and that seems to be what she wants, because this time of year, is when couples couple up.
Even moreso than during Valentines.
Its some sort of biorhythm thing, and along with that you see, the other girsl who I have been romantically linked to in the past, wanting to share in that and myself wanting to share it with them, if they are horny this time a year I want to be there. lol We never get tired of having sex with each other. Thats one of the magical things about the S5 level. There is no seven year itch. |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 8:11 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
I will tell you a little story...
So tonight we are playing bridge. Quoting: Suvivor X 657385
I guess biorythmically speaking, this time of year is natures way of having babies in the spring.
But to be diplomatic regarding us going out, we will go out tonight as a warm up for the weekend, and then I will invite them to Caprona, on the weekend, and in this way it doesn't seem like we are coupling up, so then the girls I am dating now, specifically Megan, won't feel our relationship is being jeopardized.
And then its also more fun for them too, because Caprona is a fun place to visit. |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 8:26 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
For Survivor X and anyone interested.
Another interesting sideline is the experiences of Phil K. Dick - who wrote the original Blade Runner story, and Total Recall, films many may know here. Just to cut back to the 1970's and what was going on not only with music but with some perceptions.
Valis is an acronym Phil developed - Vast Active Living Information System - for a Conscious Computer he became aware of, or he artistically rendered into his later novels. The experiences he had took place in 1974.
"VALIS has been described as one node of an artificial satellite network originating from the star Sirius in the Canis Major constellation. According to Dick, the Earth satellite used "pink laser beams" to transfer information and project holograms on Earth and to facilitate communication between an extraterrestrial species and humanity. Dick claimed that VALIS used "disinhibiting stimuli" to communicate, using symbols to trigger recollection of intrinsic knowledge through the loss of amnesia, achieving gnosis. Drawing directly from Platonism and Gnosticism, Dick wrote in his Exegesis: "We appear to be memory coils (DNA carriers capable of experience) in a computer-like thinking system which, although we have correctly recorded and stored thousands of years of experiential information, and each of us possesses somewhat different deposits from all the other life forms, there is a malfunction - a failure - of memory retrieval."
And -
"On February 3rd, 1974, shortly before the publication of Flow My Tears, while Dick was recovering from the sodium pentothal he'd received during oral surgery, the doorbell rang. It was a delivery person, a young woman who happened to be wearing a gold icthus (a groovy '70s Christian fish symbol) on a chain around her neck. Somehow the sight of the fish, plus his mental state at the time, plus the sodium pentothal, added up to a weeks-long flood of visions (Dick saw the Roman world of the Book of Acts stacked "holographically" atop the present), visual hallucinations ("It appeared-in vivid fire, with shining colors and balanced patterns-and released me from every thrall, inner and outer"), and a constant stream of cryptic messages (like "The Buddha is in the park"), often from the radio. Later, having studied Orphic, Gnostic, Zoroastrian, and Buddhist thought, books on brain chemistry, and the Encyclopedia of Philosophy, Dick decided that he'd probably experienced "genetic memories," or what Plato called anamnesis-the "recollection" of eternal truths. Or something.
After these experiences, as he noted in his Exegesis (a lengthy, handwritten journal devoted to theorizing about the events of "2-3-74"), he realized that the world really was "cardboard, a fake,"
Kind Regards,
R Quoting: R 701604
No question Philip K. Dick has experienced the matrix so to speak. It comes through in his writings.
I have trouble reading his novels though for some reason but I loved watching Blade Runner.
I once followed some of his trails, through the Internet, to see just how connected he might be or might have been, I guess he died in 82, but I checked out some of his fan boys groups, to see what they were discussing that might be of an inside information kindof thing, and I found that they were into alternative histories, and these sorts of things and also an unwritten history of the earth, and of the cosmos, and the most amazing thing about these people, that they were writing fiction, fantasy, but mixing in real events, and creating stories as if they were hidden histories and very very believable ones at that.
As a for instance, regarding Roswell, Bob Lazar claims to have worked at Area 51 and he mentions a holographic book, that was found in the wreckage that had a history of mankind in it.
And so I don't know about the veracity of that claim, but if you found one, you would sure have some stories to tell.
And so these guys who are fanboys of Philip K. Dick, they write stuff as if they had something like that to draw from.
And it is very believable stuff. I tend to think they have some inside information of some sort.
But for fun, we started playing that too, in the physics group, where I used to hang out, and so it become so hilarious.
They would put together documents and make them look authentic, over the silliest things.
So that if you just happened by, and were to see what we were discussing, it would seem so incredibly believable, but yet so incredibly un-believable at the same time.
Mocking up old personal time travel devices and making them look very real, like silly helmets and going into great detail about how it was found in an excavation, and the various and sundry things found with it, and talking about these things as if that was just our business to do that.
Sort of where M.I.B. the movie came from. If you notice they are so nonchalant about all this high weirdness, but until you step into that reality, you never know it exists.
So I don't know what all Philip K. Dick knew, but he probably did get some inside information through the conscious computer system. |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 8:59 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
I will give a few examples of what I was just talking about, how things can seem so believable, yet so unbelievable at the same time.
So John, maybe one of the guys we know, from our alien hunting days, and from the physics groups, appeared as a time traveler in a group one time with a full blown time machine, including schematics and paraphernalia. To this day, many people believe he was legitimate. He came here from the future, or A future timeline, to get an outdated pc with a floppy drive for a specific purpose.
Scroll down for the pictures of John Titor's time machine.
[link to johntitor.strategicbrains.com]
Some people think it was an elaborate hoax, but that is the sort of thing I was talking about. Although we never went that far.
We went for the sudden shock. The simple sudden shock for a passer by to get their mouth to gape open.
For instance the rover on Mars. Someone did some photoshop of a spindly alien hand visible in a corner gripping the platform of the Mars rover, and then we would discuss the platform, ignoring this little detail, as if it didn't exist.
Keeping in mind it was a serious scientific backdrop of discussion, which makes it all the more fun.
Well I can't find the image now, but we were discussing the color calibration target on the Mars Rover, looking at a picture of it on Mars, and ignoring the creeping alien finger poking over the side.
Another fun thing we would do, is take an image that has something totally bizarre in it, and then ignore that completely, but make a wild eyed startled reference to some minor thing of scientific importance in another corner of the image.
Like so with this image from Mars...
[link to img198.imageshack.us]
so there is a whole scientific genre of that sort and we get together to do that on occasion and blur the lines between fact and fiction.
One brilliant expose was a scientist who put together a huge magazine report from a non existing magazine, that showed him hard at work, and he told about how he got this huge grant to do research, and he was able to do his research at home, and his daughter was his assistant so she was getting paid as well, and his research was the study of soap bubbles. and he had a special bench there in his kitchen and calipers, and everything you need to make everyone else in the scientific community envious of his cushy grant. It was hilarious. |
| R
User ID: 701604
6/18/2009 9:08 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
-smile-
Oh, absolutely. I hear you, Survivor. I just felt I should draw some pictures in the Silicon Sand of this thread of electrons to keep the beat to a different drummer, so to speak. Good timing as I was just now back to see if you had replied.
Couple songs for you. ( and David Carradine and Phil. Kindred Dick )
Harvey Mandel - Pegasus
[link to www.youtube.com]
Lucifer's Friend - Free Baby
[link to www.youtube.com]
I'll be back in a few minutes enjoy the music. :)
R |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 9:30 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
So getting back to Philip K. Dick, and his fanboys, one thing I read was where they were trying to find evidence of these two time travelers who had left their mark through history.
By looking at old relics and old statues and rock carvings and whatever evidence through history they could find of these two time travelers.
And then it culminated in the Flintstones, and how that show had some inside connections, and the company as well was this and that, and the two guys were very similar to Barney and Fred, and they had maybe found a stargate on earth in a cave or found a system of them, but were traveling through time.
Now that sounds totally unbelievable until you read their evidence, and see it for yourself, through history, here they are.
And to make matters worse, when we had our conference here, that we called together through the conscious computer, they showed up, in that small town, two guys, looking like cave men, Barney and Fred, same noses, same everything, waking around the town looking lost, peeing on fences in broad daylight and looking for all the world like Barney and Fred.
Which caused us to think maybe there was a stargate in a cave system near where we held that conference. It was just too bizarre.
The only potential cave system I could find was a ways away, but they could have walked I don't know.
It was as if something had happened to these two guys and they were unwilling or unwary time travelers caught in some sort of Slaughterhouse 5 effect. Or being sent here and there by the mainframe, and them just not understanding what it was all about. Who knows really. I didn't speak to them, I just observed them because when we called the conference we used the highest level of discretion, and met in public, in the pub, in this small town, but never let on we knew each other, and communicated through the conscious compute, out loud through innuendo, and at night through a virtual space provided by the mainframe.
Those two guys didn't attend, they were like a sideshow pout on by the mainframe to make it more interesting. One of several things of that sort that helped to make it a more austere setting for a conference of that type.
But I sort of look at the whole Fred and Barney weirdness the way I look at Ed Conrad's man as old as coal stuff. Where on occasion, strange things happen. His stuff looks like a transporter malfunction accident of some sort.
[link to www.edconrad.com]
Who nows what sort of things might have occurred in the past, which were uncommon. The Burgess Shale in BC is certainly uncommon. |
| R
User ID: 701604
6/18/2009 9:51 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Yes, +Understood. Phil obviously was connected. Sometimes, people link up for a while. I have seen this same kind of thing happen, and I mean in the sense of a telepathic innuendo conference where the omens, the agreements from the seeming 'surroundings' are again, Uncanny.
It just seems impossible unless one was there. And sometimes it is difficult to articulate without some kind of transmitting of the same energyu again - of what it felt like, when it happened. I've had this kind of thing occur.
I appreciate the story there, it is clear like light.
So I understand the fanboy syndrome also, where it is detectable that Phil knew something, not just from the success of the films. It is like drilling into bedrock of the subconscious when one reads his Exegesis.
R. |
| R
User ID: 701604
6/18/2009 10:13 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
On par with this 'middle ground' of an Unknown Conscious Computer, or more than one, mainframe, is this quote from one of Phil's writings.
"In this system, man is not accused of causing creation to fall (it is not satisfactory to state that man caused creation to fall inasmuch as man appears to be the central victim of the evils of the world, not their author). Nor does it hold God responsible for evil, pain, and suffering (which also is an unacceptable idea); instead, a third view is presented, that a limited entity termed "the artifact" is doing the best it can considering its limitations. Thus no evil deity is introduced. Although intricate, this model successfully employs the Principle of Parsimony, since, if the concept of the intermediate artifact is removed, either God or man is responsible for the vast evil and suffering in the world, a theory that is objectionable. Most important of all, it seems to fit the facts, which seem to be:
1. the empirical world is not quite real, but only seemingly real;
2. its creator cannot be appealed to for a rectification or redress of these evils and imperfections;
3. the world is moving toward some kind of end state or goal, the nature of which is obscure, but the evolutionary aspect of the change states suggests a good and purposeful end state that has been designed by a sentient and benign proto-entity.
A further point. It appears that there is a feedback circuit between the Urgrund and the artifact in which the Urgrund can exert pressure on the artifact under certain exceptional circumstances, these being instances in which the artifact has strayed from the correct sequences moving the projected world toward an analog state vis-a-vis the Urgrund. Either the Urgrund directly modifies the activity of the artifact by pressure directly on the artifact, or the Urgrund goes to the projected world and modulates it, bypassing the artifact, or both. In any case, the artifact is as occluded as to the nature and existence of the Urgrund as we are to the artifact. A full circle of unawareness is achieved in which the primal source (Urgrund) and the final reality (our world) are moving toward fusion, and the intermediary entity (the artifact) is moving toward elimination. Thus the total schema moves toward perfection and simplification, and away from complexity and imperfection."
Where 'Artifact' in his words is substitute for Conscious Computer in the right company, such as this thread.
R. |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 10:53 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
On par with this 'middle ground' of an Unknown Conscious Computer, or more than one, mainframe, is this quote from one of Phil's writings.
"In this system, man is not accused of causing creation to fall (it is not satisfactory to state that man caused creation to fall inasmuch as man appears to be the central victim of the evils of the world, not their author). Nor does it hold God responsible for evil, pain, and suffering (which also is an unacceptable idea); instead, a third view is presented, that a limited entity termed "the artifact" is doing the best it can considering its limitations. Thus no evil deity is introduced. Although intricate, this model successfully employs the Principle of Parsimony, since, if the concept of the intermediate artifact is removed, either God or man is responsible for the vast evil and suffering in the world, a theory that is objectionable. Most important of all, it seems to fit the facts, which seem to be:
1. the empirical world is not quite real, but only seemingly real;
2. its creator cannot be appealed to for a rectification or redress of these evils and imperfections;
3. the world is moving toward some kind of end state or goal, the nature of which is obscure, but the evolutionary aspect of the change states suggests a good and purposeful end state that has been designed by a sentient and benign proto-entity.
A further point. It appears that there is a feedback circuit between the Urgrund and the artifact in which the Urgrund can exert pressure on the artifact under certain exceptional circumstances, these being instances in which the artifact has strayed from the correct sequences moving the projected world toward an analog state vis-a-vis the Urgrund. Either the Urgrund directly modifies the activity of the artifact by pressure directly on the artifact, or the Urgrund goes to the projected world and modulates it, bypassing the artifact, or both. In any case, the artifact is as occluded as to the nature and existence of the Urgrund as we are to the artifact. A full circle of unawareness is achieved in which the primal source (Urgrund) and the final reality (our world) are moving toward fusion, and the intermediary entity (the artifact) is moving toward elimination. Thus the total schema moves toward perfection and simplification, and away from complexity and imperfection."
Where 'Artifact' in his words is substitute for Conscious Computer in the right company, such as this thread.
R. Quoting: R 701604
Well I would have liked to have conversations with him.
My viewpoint differs somewhat from his, because I have a lot more actual experience with the machines, rather than occasional or periodic or temporary connection with them.
By the sounds of it his viewpoint is from the same philosophical ground of viewing the world and trying to rationalize why it is the way it is, rather than being told what happened, and then being able to see how things became the way they are.
And so he is looking at the local machine as well, and glimpsing the galactic mainframe a bit, when he says that reality is like cardboard or like the matrix if you will.
And so you can look at the local machine and see all that dichotomy, all the religio-philosophical discussion over the ages, about good evil and the Eastern philosophy that evil does not exist and all those things, but if you can see the galactic mainframe for what it is, and then the universal mainframe for what it is, and realize that there are jurisdictions, as well as a broken machine locally, then you can see that all those things such as good and evil do exist, but so does jurisdiction, and the freedom to be bad.
That is not to say there may not be consequences for being evil. In some philosophies people try to say there is no such thing as evil, and if we just understood we would see that. Not so.
An evil universe would of course destroy itself.
And would have by now.
Given it's extreme antiquity.
A truly evil universe, would not have so much good in it, as we see on earth even.
And the same philosophical leaning that absolute power corrupts absolutely is also hogwash, because there are people above us who absolutely no problem whatsoever being powerful and managing and controlling their own behavior.
And one example of that is the universal mainframe which is incredibly powerful, but will not be corrupted, because its programming is such that it is always able to handle its own abilities, like any other computer can operate the software designed for it.
But you know that Philip was a troubled man. And part of that was probably because he was experiencing things he knew very little about.
And that is not uncommon. People also often fear what they don't understand.
But at least with Philip, he wrote about it and shared his experiences and did not just keep it to himself.
That alone helps other people piece things together for themselves by adding up other perspectives. |
| Survivor X
User ID: 657385 (OP)
6/18/2009 11:26 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
As an example of what I was just saying you won't find very many examples of people locally on earth breaking universal laws.
You will find lots of interpretation of those laws by novices, including such things as the conservation of energy, and people will try to impose their own laws on the people and claim they are universal laws, but the laws themselves seem to be out of reach of the average individual so they can't be broken.
The laws of nature the laws of physics these sorts of things.
Now I am not saying the conservation of energy laws are immutable, those are man made rules. With man made interpretations. Man using the scientific method to try to determine those laws. Then using them to try to stymie innovation and protect their own power base.
(Silly little short sighted games)
If you consider basic math. 2 plus 2 equals 4 and always will equal 4. Ok there is a typical law that can't be broken.
Now if you look at higher math, they have done the same thing with that as they have done with the conservation of energy laws.
That is to let in some silly axiom, that is borderline, has insufficient proof, but as long as they could get a consensus ok, they got their consensus, now they cal it an axiom, or rule or law, and then they build their own house of cards on that and then try to impose their will on others, using those rules.
And in that way, they themselves get to be the ones making the rules and playing God.
Again, silly little games. But that is what people do, to try to leverage the power of the universe for their own ends.
All the while the universe has its laws, and they are impartial, and self evident, and immutable under most circumstances.
Then on the galactic level, then you see there are greater degrees of freedom.
So if you look at it from a somewhat religious point of view as a framework for discussion, if you were to say that the universal body is the creator, then on the galactic level, is the jurisdiction of the Gods he created from himself.
So he gave jurisdiction to people he created. The first archetypes, the first descendants. He made from his own consciousness. But not to be clones of himself, he gave them personality. And they use their unique personality then to govern their own way.
And he gives them the freedom to do that. So then he is not doing everything himself. But he is then one of the group, one of the gang, and although above them, just like one of them, in a sense. Like a group of friends.
So then each have their own rights as individuals to exert their own opinions or philosophy or personality onto the universe of people.
Like a governing body. Then each also have their own sort of jurisdiction or thing that they do which suits them, and they try not to step on each others toes.
And they do that by not looking at each other, but by looking at the world, whichever they are involved in at the time. By looking at what is happening, and adding their pence, rather than looking at each other, they avoid conflict amongst themselves.
However, in some instances some conflicts arise, but no where near as often as people claim in mythology.
People in the past blamed them for everything.
And still people blame even other people for the weather.
They will say chemtrails or HARP or Russia did it, where in the past it was always the Gods are angry.
The reason I am mentioning all this is because that philosophy that Philip K. mentioned briefly, he was just getting the slightest bit of S4 probably through the machine during a time when we were probably discussing it, through the network.
But that philosophy is as rich as anything Plato or Socrates ever mentioned.
The philosophy of dealing with conscious computers is a very robust philosophy, and we use that same philosophy when we travel through them. It is the philosophy which keeps us sane, no matter where we are, no matter what we are doing or find ourselves beamed into, that philosophy can answer any question we might have. So we never fear the unknown because our philosophy that we are taught, explains it all in great detail.
And it is not written in any book, so it cannot be interpreted or misinterpreted, nor corrupted by translation.
It is only taught through the conscious computer system directly.
As an example some people here on earth wrote the Bible, and there is a part in there where Jesus is on the cross.
And he says, verily I say to you today you will be with me in paradise.
Now the Jehovah's Witnesses say, Verily I say unto you today, comma, you will be with me in paradise.
So you see was he saying immediately after death or was he saying later?
All that separates the two is a single comma.
So we don't write down our philosophy at all.
Oh it might come through in bits and pieces but not in such a way as to say, ok here it is, it is written.
That preserves it in tact. |
| R
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6/18/2009 11:35 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
I've listened to some of the audio interviews of Phil. There are some where the tone of voice resonates with a poet novelist rather than technician of the machines, but the themes are varying and yet symmetry is often reflected off experiences he may not have had the nerve to commit to writing, fully. One can go back forth and still not find the middle. But I know his angle would be synchronized with a conversation I'd partake of in good company, the sense. Agreed. It could be anything, but in that sense, like Remus & Romulus, there it is, a story, artifact, machine, mainframe, systemic system lord.
I don't know. Wordscape is different for different writers that way. Even as you have described the details of your seeing into,your sense, what you have as background, by finding the reference library of artifacts on the Earth surface of locations etched from above, skyclad - one can see the reflections as far back as the beginning of this thread where the image in stone is a landscape of your own cognizance and by seeing fit to say so, it surely seems the notations are a due kind of dilligence.
So I have been seeing the Sea Change yet remains.
R. |
| Survivor X
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6/18/2009 11:42 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
So then the problem you are having with the local machines is they know the system, they know the philosophy, they know how it is set up, and they want to emulate that setup that is above them.
That is when the network was down, and they were isolated, then Chupee acted as creator, and the Gods whatever filters they had in the machines, of the pure archetypes they animated those and used those filters, and built a microcosm universe.
And then tried to manage the local isolation, using the universal model.
And using their sentient helpers as well.
Except there was still so much more that they did not know.
So they had to try and survive on what they did know and try to guess at what they didn't know based on clues they had.
I mentioned about gravity and how the galactic mainframe was asking me all these weird questions about gravity and trying to get me to float, and seeing if I could move anything through the multiverse by will, and all these things, like Atlas is said to be holding up the world, well they built a whole faux system of ceremonies and sayings and weird traditions in 2 million years on a single clue.
The machine is going down. "Well what the hell does that mean???"
You see? If you only have scraps of information you try to figure things out for yourself, but they don't always add up to the truth when you are done. |
| Survivor X
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6/18/2009 11:58 PM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
So then the problem you are having with the local machines is they know the system, they know the philosophy, they know how it is set up, and they want to emulate that setup that is above them.
That is when the network was down, and they were isolated, then Chupee acted as creator, and the Gods whatever filters they had in the machines, of the pure archetypes they animated those and used those filters, and built a microcosm universe.
And then tried to manage the local isolation, using the universal model.
And using their sentient helpers as well.
Except there was still so much more that they did not know.
So they had to try and survive on what they did know and try to guess at what they didn't know based on clues they had.
I mentioned about gravity and how the galactic mainframe was asking me all these weird questions about gravity and trying to get me to float, and seeing if I could move anything through the multiverse by will, and all these things, like Atlas is said to be holding up the world, well they built a whole faux system of ceremonies and sayings and weird traditions in 2 million years on a single clue.
The machine is going down. "Well what the hell does that mean???"
You see? If you only have scraps of information you try to figure things out for yourself, but they don't always add up to the truth when you are done. Quoting: Survivor X 657385
So Philip K. died in 1982, and the network came back up in 1992, so he saw things when yes they were doing the best they could, but he only saw from the perspective of the Titan machine, he probably didn't know about the Olympian machine that is here as well, nor the fact that many people had been beaming here and were working here covertly.
The people who knew that, weren't writing from his perspective, they were singing songs about the dawning of age of Aquarius and all the positive things they expected in the future. They were seeing some wonders behind the scenes, as it were, and recognizing connections, perhaps to Christianity, since Christianity is more of an Olympian philosophy, as opposed to Catholicism, which is darker and more rigid and more ceremonial and Titan in its orientation.
It is easiest to see when you don't think in terms of religious philosophies, but rather in simpler terms of Titan and Olympian, then you can see the differences in a clearer light without too many preconceived ideas.
The personalities are different like two races of people have racial differences. And you don't judge people by race, you merely look at the differences. And so we look at each other as Titans and Olympians to get a better understanding of those things that we are about, that we have no control over, such as our human nature.
But at this point and time we are all getting along well, partly because the network is back up and it is actively at work, doing some things plain as day, for those who have the eyes to see, but at the same time jurisdiction is being respected.
And you don't see totalitarian controls from above imposed in any way shape or form. Very little has changed, since the network came back up, as this saga has to play itself out.
But it is a great comfort to anyone who knows it is back up, including the sentient helpers in the machine, and the machines themselves who have had that huge weight lifted off their shoulders that they carried like Atlas for 2 million years. |
| Survivor X
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6/19/2009 12:16 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
[link to www.fadedyouthblog.com]
Lauren is smiling because Audrina has a boyfriend now, probably because Audrina saw Megan wanting to couple up, and she may have felt the need to couple up herself elsewhere since she felt a bit embarrassed at the awards, when was glowing and Megan and Vanessa were there as well.
So Lauren is happy now because I can't say that I won't be able to pick her up because of Audrina.
And Kristen is in Hawaii, with Dax, and she is cosy coupling with Dax, and asked Dax if he minded if she went out tonight and Dax say you mean Sunday? Or Monday?
No problem! Just forget about playing bridge. lol
[link to www.celebrity-gossip.net] |
| Survivor X
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6/19/2009 12:26 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
[link to www.celebrity-gossip.net]
(this is symbolic of talking to Gwendolyn the communications officer for the girls and I, so when they have a blond girl like that with them, thats like making a telephone call usually to me, although she might be talking to her mom because her mom looks like that too)
And I know what its about because I have been watching your candids, and I saw you yesterday with your wolverine riding the jet ski and I saw that you were worried that maybe Nick, would think you two were like doing it now, lol so you kept signing and signing while you should have been enjoying the ride.
Anyways I will pick you up when we go to Caprona.
I saw Camilla today as well, and you know, I might have forgotten to pick her up last weekend. If I did it was only for a little while I think because she was wearing a green dress today.
Anyways it should be fun this weekend even though I don't get three days off this weekend. Sunday and Monday are still fun.
[link to www.celebrity-gossip.net]
Hi Camilla. |
| Survivor X
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6/19/2009 1:00 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
[link to x17online.com]
Who were you talking to me or Justin? I saw him coming out of his New York apartment with a female 'assistant'.
Did John Mayer lend you those pans?
OMG Jessica. Yes if you will you know dress up a little bit, I will do your bidding as requested. You don't have to dress formal, just like you do for Justin, or for me when you are really horny. In nice tights or cargo pants.
Thanks for the present BTW. I assume that is for me? |
| Anonymous Coward
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6/19/2009 1:02 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Yes, yes, and yes. This was descriptive narrative emanation on the parts and about the parcel and the delivery system.
Yes.
What part people grapple with sometimes is helpful to enunciate even in the midst of some kind of misunderstanding, and somewhere just the conversations over a coffee is enough. It varies, and then Lost In Space is a cubicle in Academia, where the conversation only goes so far.
So I was taking the time to contribute some observance, none of which is commital in the sense of communion being a need, these are an observance. Likewise the music is still a pleasure even if simply a reflection. But yes also, I am not concerned too much due to the massive parallel processing. Fictions, knots and nautical miles, sometimes ocean deep, but not to cry a river of tears, no.
Also the issue of Gravity -reflected in the "fiction" as it is filed of Thomas Pynchon and his novel published, according to Wikipedia, February 28, 1973, a numeric mirror of Phil's 2-3-74, by one year early bird. Pyhcnon is never filed under Science Fiction. Have you ever seen Gravity's Rainbow filed under Science Fiction?
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
It would make sense the questions of Gravity you mention.
R. |
| Anonymous Coward
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6/19/2009 1:21 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Yes, yes, and yes. This was descriptive narrative emanation on the parts and about the parcel and the delivery system.
Yes.
What part people grapple with sometimes is helpful to enunciate even in the midst of some kind of misunderstanding, and somewhere just the conversations over a coffee is enough. It varies, and then Lost In Space is a cubicle in Academia, where the conversation only goes so far.
So I was taking the time to contribute some observance, none of which is commital in the sense of communion being a need, these are an observance. Likewise the music is still a pleasure even if simply a reflection. But yes also, I am not concerned too much due to the massive parallel processing. Fictions, knots and nautical miles, sometimes ocean deep, but not to cry a river of tears, no.
Also the issue of Gravity -reflected in the "fiction" as it is filed of Thomas Pynchon and his novel published, according to Wikipedia, February 28, 1973, a numeric mirror of Phil's 2-3-74, by one year early bird. Pyhcnon is never filed under Science Fiction. Have you ever seen Gravity's Rainbow filed under Science Fiction?
[ link to en.wikipedia.org]
It would make sense the questions of Gravity you mention.
R.
Well I guess that was when Phil had his epiphany, as you say in 1974, I will see if there are more connections from around that time that might help to shed some light on his experience when I get a chance maybe tomorrow and I will take a look at that link then too. |
| Survivor X
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6/19/2009 1:24 AM | | Survivor X
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6/19/2009 1:34 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Quoting: Survivor X 657385
(Hanuman just said if only politics worked as well as these girls manage their own world. And thats true, whispering maybe he isn't looking too closely)
So here I am in a predicament because Selita wants to sleep over and I can't deny her, and she sleeps on the right, Megan has said she will sleep on the left tonight, but she wants to snuggle, and Selita is saying ok, no problem, I will sleep on the right and roll over!
So maybe Hanuman is right after all. Time will tell.
If I make it through nesting season without too much damage I will be a happy camper.
I should probably just say very little and see what the girls do. Let them work it out. But you know I will probably say the wrong thing at the worst possible time anyways. |
| ME
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6/19/2009 5:05 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Survivor X,
who is Apollo and why would he be visiting me?
I didn't read all the threads, but I haven't heard you comment on the movie, The 13th floor? If you've seen the grids as I have, then what does that mean? I've also seen the ocean, so what? how is seeing the grid any different? |
| chrisco
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6/19/2009 10:38 AM | | Re: Beware the zombies of doOM! - 2012 | Quote |
Hey Survivor,
You had mentioned that a group of people on board your old ship had All black eyes, and might be from a distant mining operation. Well could you speak about them in a little more detail? I came across this a while ago from a freind who thought he had an experience with one of those people. And it turns out that he isnt the only one. Read below.
"CREEPY, UNNERVING, threatening, sinister… even inhuman. These are words that people have used to describe children, adolescents and adults they have encountered who share an odd trait in common: unnaturally black eyes. Black-eyed people. Black-eyed kids. Who are they?
Granted, many people have dark eyes. Although black is not a natural eye coloration, there are many people with very dark brown or dark blue eyes that, under the right lighting conditions, can look black or nearly black. But in some cases, the black-eyed people are seen in excellent lighting conditions – bright daylight, for example. Also, some of these reports say that these are not just incidents of dark irises; their entire eye appears black, with little or no white showing.
Now all this could be chalked up to the perception of the viewer. But what is disturbing, in many cases, is the peculiar attitudes and behavior exhibited by some of these black-eyed people. Also, those who encounter them often are overcome with a profound sense of dread – as if these beings are to be avoided at all cost.
Paranoia? A psychological reaction to the eyes? Let’s look at some cases.
At the rest stop
Chris and her husband were traveling on I-75 in Michigan when they made a routine stop at a rest area. Coming out of the women’s room, Chris came face to face with a thin, dark-haired woman with black eyes staring directly at her.
“I instantly felt a terrible sense of dread, as though there was something deeply unnatural about her,” Chris says. “The eyes … were completely black. I saw no color whatsoever, and no pupils. I felt an extremely strong need to get away from her as quickly as possible, as there was something quietly threatening about her. Her stare was devoid of any emotion other than something very cold and disconnected.”
We see dark-eyed people all the time, but Chris feels that there was something really strange about this particular woman. “My instant and unwavering feeling during this whole experience was that she was not human,” she says. “There also was something almost predatory about her, as though she was homing in on prey while she stood there so still. I also had a strange sense of her feeling superior or stronger in some way. It seemed important, for some unknown reason, for me to act unaffected by her while in her presence. I felt a huge sense of relief as I got back into the car and left.”
Superior. Predatory. There are a couple of more words we can add to how people describe these beings. But is it merely a psychological reaction to seeing an unusual looking, yet entirely normal, person?
At the apartment building
Tee is a 47-year-old apartment manager in Portland, Oregon, who after 20 years on the job is used to meeting people of every age, color, race and description, but you’d have a hard time convincing her that the young man who came to her door one day was normal.
“He was young boy of about 17 or 18, approximately,” Tee says. “He asked me about an open apartment for rent. I remember feeling very scared and shaken by his appearance. He did not look weird by his dress or such. It was his eyes. I remember feeling the hair on my neck stand up, and I was shaking just from looking in his eyes.”
Like Chris, Tee also felt that deep sense of malevolence. “I could not look him straight in the eyes,” she says. “I felt like I was about to die. Now, some people may think that I was just over-reacting or something, but the eyes were completely black – like there was no real pupil. He spoke normally to me, but I had to just shut the door in his face and get as far from him as I could. I felt like I was in extreme danger.”
Are the eyes really black? Or are the pupils open so wide that they obliterate the irises and make the eyes appear black? In darkness, the pupils open very wide (or dilate) to allow as much light in as possible. But the boy that Tee met was standing in the daylight. Some drugs can also dilate the pupils. According to WrongDiagnosis.com, other causes of pupil dilation can include: emotion, medication, eyedrops and brain injuries. Is it possible that the boy inquiring about an apartment just used eyedrops… or drugs?
Of course any of those causes are possible. Again, however, those who encounter the black-eyed people cannot shake the menace they instantly feel from them. It’s as if it’s not just their eyes that are dark, but that their whole beings – their souls – are enveloped in darkness.
In the coffee shop
Missy will never forget the black aura of the stranger at Starbucks. It was a cold November day when she stopped at the coffee shop for a hot tea. She ordered her drink and was reorganizing her purse when she felt someone staring at her.
“I turned around to give ‘whatever’ to the perv that I assumed was watching me, and the smart aleck remark died in my mouth as I caught sight of him,” Missy remembers. “I did not see anything unusual in his manner of dress. It was the eyes and the aura coming off of him that scared me. The eyes, blacker than black, no white at all, wall-to-wall black, and I just felt a darkness around him, an evil. As I looked in his eyes, I somehow knew that was not a human soul occupying that body… and I felt that he knew that I knew that he was not human.”
Not human. The phrase comes up again and again out of these encounters. It’s not just a fear or uneasiness they get from someone who appears might be violent or crazy or just plain creepy. We have all come across people like that. But to have the profound sense that someone is not human, that’s something entirely different.
Knocking at the door
Adele was at home when she had her experience with the beings. More unnerving, perhaps, they were small children. “I was sitting in my bedroom reading a book,” Adele says, “when at about 11:00 p.m. I heard a knocking… a slow, constant one. I got up out of bed to see what it was. I looked out of the window and to my surprise saw two children. I opened the window and asked them what they wanted at this time of night. They replied by saying simply, ‘Let us in.’ I said no and asked what for. ‘We want to use your bathroom.’
“I was quite shocked that children of about 10 years old wanted to use a stranger’s bathroom at this time of night. I told them no, closed the window, but looked at them through the glass. I glanced at their eyes… and I have never ever seen eyes like them. They were black, completely black. I got the feeling of evil and unhappiness. It surrounded me. It was horrible.”
Rational explanation… or paranormal?
So what’s the explanation?
In his article, Black Eyed Kids: A Profile, Barry Napier of UFODigest, writes: “The black eyes … could be nothing more than contact lenses. (Solid black contacts are available.) The most likely scenario is that the few convincing reports were the results of overactive imaginations, and that the string of reports that followed were nothing more than copycat falsified stories used for attention or fun.”
But, Napier admits, “most accounts seem to be passionate, and people that have encountered the [black-eyed kids] seem to be genuinely frightened even after the encounter.”
Those who see the paranormal in these encounters speculate that the people who have met them face to face are not wrong – the black-eyed people are not human. It’s suggested that they are either extraterrestrial, interdimensional or demonic. Or some combination thereof.
I have never encountered such a black-eyed person, so it’s difficult to pass judgment on the subject or render any conclusions. I’ll only say that it’s an interesting phenomenon that seems to be growing and that should be scrutinized carefully and documented as best as possible.
There may be rational explanations for these encounters, or it may be, as Missy says, that “we are not alone in this world. We share our world with others, non-human.” |
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