Everyone was gabbing away last night, on mind net, and I am like Michael, will you STFU, I am trying to sleep. lol
What they were trying to say was that on the Titan machine, they had no Hanuman, theirs went down a long time ago.
So they were forced to communicate with Chupee, and the arch angels, the sentient helpers on the instinctual layer. Through S4.
And thats why they were all so paranoid all the time and having so much trouble.
And I was just talking to them now and I said well wasn't it obvious? The difference between Catholicism and Christianity.
You see the father and son philosophy, is one where you have Chupee and Hanuman figuratively speaking, a big one and a small one and you can relate better to the small one.
And what they had was old testament style management. Fire and brimstone.
The instinctual layer being for animal instinctual behaviors, and its rather cut dry, cat and mouse, and dog eat dog etc.
I have another example of how the machine is clearly exhibiting end of the line behaviors. Errant behaviors prior to it's self destructing.
I mentioned that I got a ticket, well several, for parking in a residential zone, outside my home where I am legally parked.
And so now the city has sent me a reminder notice for payment, to my address, which shows that they know I live here, and yet they are pursuing me for parking here, and claiming at the same time in the letter, that I violated the parking laws by parking in a space on the curb, reserved for people who live here. And you know they are doing that every day, several times a day to people all over the city.
Someone or ones, are typing those letters, and then addressing those letters, and the light just isn't coming on.
I have another example of how the machine is clearly exhibiting end of the line behaviors. Errant behaviors prior to it's self destructing.
I mentioned that I got a ticket, well several, for parking in a residential zone, outside my home where I am legally parked.
And so now the city has sent me a reminder notice for payment, to my address, which shows that they know I live here, and yet they are pursuing me for parking here, and claiming at the same time in the letter, that I violated the parking laws by parking in a space on the curb, reserved for people who live here. And you know they are doing that every day, several times a day to people all over the city.
Someone or ones, are typing those letters, and then addressing those letters, and the light just isn't coming on.
Quoting: Survivor X 657385
Why is this in anyway an indication of a problem in the machine you ask? Well the machine is running consciousness software, that is supposed to trigger the aha response.
The light goes on.
If this sort of behavior pattern, of ticketing someone parked legally at an address, as if you didn't know they lived there and then sending them a reminder to said address which clearly shows you know they live there, if that sort of behavior were in any other individual you would say they were clearly insane, since they lacked reason, and or the ability to reason, and were exhibiting illogical irrational behaviors.
A thinking machine which exhibits irrational illogical behaviors, is in danger of self destruction.
Now you can say well the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing, and you can look at it in raw programatical ways as well, but it won't change the fact that the light doesn't come on. And if it won't come on in this extremely simple case, you know its not coming on in microbiology, chemistry, and in all the dangerous fields of endeavor as well.
This is politics, on a local level, city management, and we know, that this sort of thing is going on on the provincial/state and federal levels and is all pervading, including the military and legal system.
The very few people who still have proper rational sense, are just too frustrated to try to inform the others at this point. For instance the idea of using the telephone, to report a computer bug, or to tell the cable company something, or electrical power company, or any large organization has gone out of style.
You will phone, a machine will answer, you will get nowhere.
He's going to be thinking of her when he's laying on you, and you will be thinking of um, and I will be thinking of, and she will be thinking of...I know, she will be thinking of skinny generic Guess model cabin boy guy.
And I will be trying not to think, that Justin is laying on top of you.
I can totally relate to what you mean about the machine running consciousness software. And the personality files, records, backup hardrives on the escape pod saucer in the center of the Moon and those fine points that run through your writings.
And the signing, the signals. It never seemed just a 'normal' thing the way I first found Phil Dick's work. I've been getting various signals for a long time. The trick is waiting, sometimes. Rich Shaver at another time of my life was an appropos mind expander but even so the signal was oddly incomplete. I agree with you. But it is unusual to have things happen that are totally unexplainable to the average person so I simply wait until I see someone publish something, or certain paintings, like the one with the antenna over the earth you linked to. I found that years ago, too.
Well, I had made a big batch of Chili, with fresh cilantro and parsley and garlic and it is spicy, but good. I think I'll have some vegetable gyoza tonight and brown rice.
[link to img10.imageshack.us]
Thats funny, he has to keep telling her to put her arm down because she keeps wanting to sign me.
Hope you are having fun wherever you are.
I don't know if you are still in Brazil, but I will assume you are and pick you up tomorrow probably, since these got posted today, I will assume they are recent.
[link to img10.imageshack.us]
Thats funny, he has to keep telling her to put her arm down because she keeps wanting to sign me.
Hope you are having fun wherever you are.
I don't know if you are still in Brazil, but I will assume you are and pick you up tomorrow probably, since these got posted today, I will assume they are recent.
Quoting: Survivor X 657385
Oh you left on Thursday, so you are probably in New York then,
[link to img387.imageshack.us]
that's a pretty dress.
Ale was out in L.A. yesterday so I will pick her up tomorrow as well.
I see so many unlogicall stuff here...but I think how this things is going on, in this virtual reality"
Could I talk tou you by phone....give me your nb I will call you it is ok Survivor?
I am so curious about things you know.
Give me this oprtunity.....
Or find another way.
I see so many unlogicall stuff here...but I think how this things is going on, in this virtual reality"
Could I talk tou you by phone....give me your nb I will call you it is ok Survivor?
I am so curious about things you know.
Give me this oprtunity.....
Or find another way.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 678862
I like talking to people here.
Hey, want to see a cool moon hoax video, that shows Kubric's genius?
Speaking of VR~how that anonymous poster just mentioned it, in the early 1990's while I was sorting out some experiences that were leading me to question what was going on in the world - the way things, systems, people, institutions seem to be glitching, breaking down, sefl-destructing, and so forth, I was at a particularly low point. I felt a little overwhelmed. But sure enough the randomness of the way things are signalled, messaged, was perfect and it floored me. The same day I had nothing to do but relax and stay home all day to feel better, the Sci-Fi network aired the entire TV series called VR.5. To this day I am still grateful to have seen it. In the same way that messages are sometimes meant to have long term meanings meant to be pondered and considered slowly. Like a mental digestion. So after watching this Pre-Matrix tv show about the world as layers of VR, I looked around on the 'net for years. This is a breakdown of the levels of Virtual Reality, in the show.
VR.2 Interactive (e.g., video games). User-controlled manipulation of items on a screen.
VR.3 Flight simulator. The user manipulates items and objects on a screen and the simulator responds physically to those actions. This level controls the space and place containing the individual, but not the individual's senses.
VR.4 Cyberspace. User is transplanted into an electronically created world. Does not involve user being in controlled environment. Equipment that can neutralize the user's sensory input necessary to alter reality (e.g., helmet, gloves, bodysuit).
VR.5 Level at which Sydney initially operates and the title's eponymous VR.5. It provides a window to the subconscious mind. User is taken into the virtual world, accessed at the subconscious level. Experiences, for all intents and purposes, are real for the user. Results in little or no conscious recall of virtual experiences for participants unwillingly brought into virtual plane, yet subconscious behavior is altered, affecting real-world behavior.
VR.6 This level, much like VR.5, brings the user and participant into the virtual plane. Access is at the conscious level, with both user and participant having full recall of virtual experiences.
VR.7 Official materials list this as:
Telepathy. Communication/experience via the mind, rather than via hardware. A cyberlink formed between the minds of two people without the need for a computer, monitor or mouse/keyboard.
VR.8 The level Dr. Bloom reached. The ability to transplant or implant a single or multiple personality and life experience within the mind of the participant. Total mind manipulation.
VR.9 The ability to manipulate the real world via the mind. Telekinetic abilities. The virtual becomes real, and reality becomes just one of the operating planes of the user.
VR.10 All knowing, all seeing, the ability to transcend normal, natural, and physical laws governing experiences. May be a virtual embodiment of God.
Just something I've been thinking of posting for a while.
Speaking of VR~how that anonymous poster just mentioned it, in the early 1990's while I was sorting out some experiences that were leading me to question what was going on in the world - the way things, systems, people, institutions seem to be glitching, breaking down, sefl-destructing, and so forth, I was at a particularly low point. I felt a little overwhelmed. But sure enough the randomness of the way things are signalled, messaged, was perfect and it floored me. The same day I had nothing to do but relax and stay home all day to feel better, the Sci-Fi network aired the entire TV series called VR.5. To this day I am still grateful to have seen it. In the same way that messages are sometimes meant to have long term meanings meant to be pondered and considered slowly. Like a mental digestion. So after watching this Pre-Matrix tv show about the world as layers of VR, I looked around on the 'net for years. This is a breakdown of the levels of Virtual Reality, in the show.
VR.2 Interactive (e.g., video games). User-controlled manipulation of items on a screen.
VR.3 Flight simulator. The user manipulates items and objects on a screen and the simulator responds physically to those actions. This level controls the space and place containing the individual, but not the individual's senses.
VR.4 Cyberspace. User is transplanted into an electronically created world. Does not involve user being in controlled environment. Equipment that can neutralize the user's sensory input necessary to alter reality (e.g., helmet, gloves, bodysuit).
VR.5 Level at which Sydney initially operates and the title's eponymous VR.5. It provides a window to the subconscious mind. User is taken into the virtual world, accessed at the subconscious level. Experiences, for all intents and purposes, are real for the user. Results in little or no conscious recall of virtual experiences for participants unwillingly brought into virtual plane, yet subconscious behavior is altered, affecting real-world behavior.
VR.6 This level, much like VR.5, brings the user and participant into the virtual plane. Access is at the conscious level, with both user and participant having full recall of virtual experiences.
VR.7 Official materials list this as:
Telepathy. Communication/experience via the mind, rather than via hardware. A cyberlink formed between the minds of two people without the need for a computer, monitor or mouse/keyboard.
VR.8 The level Dr. Bloom reached. The ability to transplant or implant a single or multiple personality and life experience within the mind of the participant. Total mind manipulation.
VR.9 The ability to manipulate the real world via the mind. Telekinetic abilities. The virtual becomes real, and reality becomes just one of the operating planes of the user.
VR.10 All knowing, all seeing, the ability to transcend normal, natural, and physical laws governing experiences. May be a virtual embodiment of God.
Just something I've been thinking of posting for a while.
R.
Quoting: R 701604
Well, sounds like they know quite a bit about reality.
I have been to the VR. 10 level, but as myself, not as God, merely there with the creator and his peers a couple of them I guess, and we were just looking down at a pond, and looking at a new type of frog that was being developed.
I saw the pond from a perspective of being over it, and lilly pads and just a small view, without having a body, just as a consciousness, but separate, and like looking at that small pool on a pedestal they had on Olympus, you know where the Goddess waves her hand over it, and the cloudiness clears and then you can see, that sort of thing.
Only without Olympus or the little pool, but I suspect, that notion, was based on a similar experience.
Another time I was on a level where reality was so bright, and I don't light as in light from the sun, but intense in strength, that it attacked your senses to the point, where it was much more real than this, like your senses were amplified greatly, but not more loud, not more light hitting your eyes, just a really really high degree of resolution.
Really noticeable high resolution and strength of reality, such that it made you feel bombarded by reality, being in it.
It was just like this reality in the sense of what was there, but the intensity was such, that you felt like only a God could endure reality that was that real.
By comparison, we have a half asleep half awake kind of reality here, where people walk around daydreaming or doing tasks like me at work, repetitious tasks on autopilot, while I am intently listening to old BBC programs like today it was the 2003 series of In Our Time.
So I am driving my bread truck, doing deliveries, and some complex tasks like alarms and things, but there aren't many people on the road, so I am on autopilot, and listening intently to In Our Time, and the time just flies by.
This level of reality, is very relaxed compared to the ones above us.
We use a slightly different scale, because we are not trying to categorize things scientifically here, so S6, which is lucid dreaming, can be as real as this reality.
S4 for us, is vision projection, seeing visions when you close your eyes and are relaxed maybe meditating or half asleep. But that is Hanuman or Chupee and they are experts at making the imagery very small and faint, and ethereal so it isn't disruptive to your thoughts if you merely choose to ignore it.
S3 is images, like pictures, candids, movies, S2 text, S1 verbal communication in person.
S5 daydream, and in a daydream you can immerse yourself, we add some more sensory perceptions to the S5 level to make it more interactive when we use it.
S7 is like S6 only more real, but not that high resolution level. Just real and bright and a good lucid dream state where things are not dream like, as they are on S6.
On S6 you know someone has put that dream together, and they are involved in narration, and you are a character in that play.
On S7 you do not know it is a dream. You think it is real. It may be. It may be that your consciousness is merely beamed there, and that level is maintained as a real universe.
Not unlike this one.
After all if you can make a world, then the rest is all balls of rock and stars isn't it?
So it doesn't matter how big the universe is, since it is way out there and for all we know, has nothing but big balls of rock and stars.
In terms of writing code, thats not much work.
To make bare planets and stars.
Making the earth, well thats a master work of art.
But you can make as many as you want including moonships, and other planets, and if your consciousness is beamed there, well that means they could be anywhere, including in another supercomputer somewhere, just as this entire universe could be as well.
The real universe might have ended even, and been transported into a computer somewhere, as a virtual reality, and maybe all that you would notice is some small detail that seems different.
Its all virtual reality, the difference being that real universes like this one, obey the laws of physics, so you have a stable stage.
I suspect that it might go up quite high, past 10 and beyond. But why would we as humans want to go where we would be like fish out of water?
S7 is as far as we would be comfortable.
As human.
Maybe as an Olympian without a body, you could go to S10 but it would not be interesting to me, to design DNA or ecosystems, when my race studies creation as it is, we don't design creation on that level, although maybe some work with existing DNA, as a toolset, and we program computers, even conscious ones, but we don't try to be creators on the level of design.
And the reason is because we know the difference between our ability to do things and even lets say Chupee's ability if he was to show off as a for instance.
He is a descended archetype of the creator, and if he wants to do something to show his talent, well you can see that it is close to perfection, something we don't achieve.
Oh we have talent, people on earth even have amazing talent, that even impresses Chupee at times. Some people have natural abilities, and he even gets envious of their talent, but we are not consistent with great achievements, we tend to look at those as being amazing performances where the person nailed it.
We aren't patient enough to be meticulous enough, to be interested enough in the extreme complexity, of real creation.
Thats why we study it on my home planet, because we marvel at the work of the creators.
And in a way we are appreciating it, and making it more worth the while for the creators to have other people study their work.
But they don't want us living with them. And we wouldn't feel comfortable living with giants either.
You know every day at work, as I drive around, for the first hour, I listen to the same music on my MP3 player, my playlist I am too lazy to change, and I set aside that time, to use my communications officers, to chat with Hanuman and Chupee and the guys on S4 about the previous day. Since we don't have a dinner table, this is our dinner table conversation time.
Since we are all great friends, it is fun to discuss and laugh about what went on.
And so I am not always in a good mood that hour, as you might expect, and often I am threating Hanuman, with annihilation lol for pissing me off the day before or while we were on the S5 level or for interference it all gets blamed on Hanuman.
Saying things like when I get home I am hitting that delete key.
So anyways, last night we were talking about what they had been talking about on S4, the Titan machine, and I was talking about Bertrand Russell's history of philosophy in 40 volumes, which I have been listening to in bites at work.
And he is one of the every few philosophers, who were willing to dissect religious philosophy, including going through Catholicism, from start to finish, not just the popes, but every friar with an opinion who wrote it down on a scrap of paper, he discusses it with footnotes and also delves into and quotes from Biblical text. So with that as a background of discussion, we started discussing the current theme which is Osiris, chases the Seven Sisters.
Now this theme is well known in mythology, so we are involved in that theme, so that the angels and arch angels, sentient helpers on both the sentience layer and instinctual layer can be involved in what we are doing. So we all have a focus and a context so we can all play together and live together and experience this reality together by following that theme.
Now then Hanuman and Chupee were asking me more intricate question about that theme, and really wanted to delve into it, from lets say a higher perspective, as a game, like we play Sandman, with the girls signing, that is a game, and we all know how to play that game. That is our fun game we play.
So Hanuman and Chupee wanted me to tell them about playing the theme game, as if I was in the machine, like say where Zeus was on that level of play where maybe you are in the galactic mainframe, and can manipulate reality.
And so I told them that its an observer game, the idea is not to do much in the way of interfering.
And it is so complicated, that it wouldn't be fun for them anyways, because they wouldn't get the jokes, its above our heads here.
So its like with Lindsay and Paris, we know, that is part of the same theme, because that theme has Osiris, and Gwendolyn.
And people tend to make teams of the blonds and brunettes.
Hence why people have recently been dyeing their hair.
To mix it up a bit and switch sides. Titans like Jessica Alba, making a comment about switching to blond, so as to be not treated as a Titan, and even Britney changing her hair color to chestnut brown, to be smart and say well I'm not playing.
Previously she shaved her head. Everyone thought she was just crazy, but it can be a crazy game.
So what I told them was we just observe the theme, and run paralell to it, we don't want to immerse ourselves in game play that is over our head. We want to play our own game but want to be in familiar territory, so we follow along with that theme as observers, and occasionally we get a glimpse of game play, and we get a joke or two, if it is done in such a way as we can understand it.
So then today I have my nap, and Zeus makes me an S6 level dream. A work of art, to give me his take on what he has been observing from his perspective.
And it was quite funny, and yet really amazing as a dream.
And so it was a bunch of people by a forest, the lighting was deep purple, the people were dyed deep purple, the trees colored and as they moved or flowed down the hill into the small clearing the dye shifted to black.
So that was part of it and it had a bunch more stuff commenting on the match making, and the interference, but I woke up and i thought wow, that had the feel of a Roman festival or something, I thoughht well maybe that is some kind of Sol invictus celebration or some such and so I looked it up, and July 19th, is a Roman festival similar to that.
Lucaria/Lacuria:
July 19, 21
"Feasts of Clearings". These two feasts celebrated the luci (lucus/lacus = a clearing ringed with trees) where Roman farmers grew their crops. The farmers would say a prayer, and then clear the land to be used during the next growing season. In Rome, the rites took place at the sacred grove near the Tiber at the Vial Salaria. The festival was paid for by revenue generated by public groves.
It probably wasn't that but it had the feel of an old pagan ritual or festival.
And so since Chupee is pagan, he was saying that his observations were that whenever I start going out with a girl, they wear purple, and then they get interfered with until they wear black, and it just goes on and on like that like some kind of ritual.
It's all very contrived. So I don't take it very serious, and anyone who has been following along, and watched for instance Megan, and me, and how the next thing she is back with Brian, and then signs me, and then its someone else, and it goes on like that with all the girls. And we never get anywhere in terms of a real relationship, but in all of that, that IS our relationship.
And so you see we are not playing along with the theme, the girls break away, they dye their hair, Megan will once again go out with Brian, you see we don't want to play their game their way above us or even on Chupee or Hanuman's level, sure we want to play with them, but we want to play it our way.
Thanks for the reply Survivor, I appreciate it. All this has been on my mind for years, so I have to echo other posters who have said things like Survivor X rocks, and pin this and other things in appreciation. It is likely I would not be posting here were it not for this thread, but that it neither here nor there. I agree it seems likely the writer, whoever manifested the levels for that show were clued in, I tucked that one under my hat for a good 10 years, only mentioning it once or twice briefly to an online acquaintance who likely was a sentient helper or programming level kind of guide or mentor for me. Or a temporary expression of a Conscious Computer. I don't really know. He didn't deny its relevance either. But he was alot more reticent so again thanks for your extrapolation.
It is interesting how in some quarters things have loosened up while remaining hidden in plain sight, so to speak. For whatever reason. I still walk humbly learning and yes, it is amazing what is available on the shelves for us. Life is incredibly interesting. And I do my humble daily routine, take care things, do maintenance on systems, and listen to old 78 records and out of print cassette tapes of the sounds that echo my sense of 'there is more, more' than meets the eye. And that Sun Ra fellow has a great title for one of his recordings - something about "God's Private Eye In the Sky".
And even MSNBC's Keith Olbermann has done a segment "Live on TV" about how there is a 20% chance we are just living in a Computer Simulation right now, anyway. Here it is on Youtube as reference material. He mentions the work of Nick Bostrom, link follows.
"This paper argues that at least one of the following propositions is true: (1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage; (2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof); (3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become posthumans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. A number of other consequences of this result are also discussed."
So since me and Gwendolyn are here, and at least 4 of the seven sisters, we are following that theme, through this reality, along the time line.
Now then way above us, who knows what sort of manipulation is taking place to create that time line, or went into its design, but we are following it. Since we are in that story.
So we just transpose ourselves into the theme using this reality and these world events. And its easy, I am Osiris, my job is to amorously pursue the seven sisters, and try to keep Gwendolyn (Isis) happy at the same time.
So yes, I am involved in that theme, as are the seven sisters and so is Gwendolyn, but what I told Chupee is that here, I can't tell him enough about the game play above our heads, because for one thing, I do not remember the archetypal behaviors of all the seven sisters sufficiently to be sure who is even who.
I know Gwendolyn, but she is not reincarnated, so her involvement is symbolic.
And the other sisters are here maybe, but they might be symbolically represented as well by other people.
Regardless, that is enough for people to follow that theme.
So even though I am involved in the theme, I try not to involve the entire group, we continue to play sandman, and I continue to pick up the other girls who sign me, even though at the same time, I am trying to forge a relationship with the seven sisters, which ever one seems to be around at the time. Since I am compatible with all seven.
Now I don't want to make them seem interchangeable, rather I am looking for the one who I am best suited to.
And so yesterday and the day before people were even making comments ahead of time. They had advanced knowledge that I didn't have and had made candids commenting on things prior to me even knowing about it.
Jessica Alba for instance in bed in the showroom there was commenting on a person, who I hadn't even signed me, yet, but she was already commenting on her, and then the next morning while finishing work, there she is on her walk down town, and she signs me. A girl who has been signing me, but Megan sent me a memo when I let her sleep over.
So Jessica had to put on her figurative secretary hat, since she is the network secretary lest we forget, and make some comments, but she was doing so, based on information, prior to things happening. Getting her information from a higher level, the level of the gods as it were, and passing that message onto the group, prior to me even getting the signing. And that is because we are following the time line close enough, that it is easily predicted by those above us.
Which is good, if you trust that they won't lay booby traps for you. And we are trusting they won't.
Since it is just fun game play and harmless good fun at that.
I ancient times, heroes like in Homer, heroes were men who fought against the Gods. Achilles, and those heroes, didn't just have to fight men, they had to fight interference from above.
And that is how you have to assert your freedom some times, but we don't play that way, we try to all play together.
That is something else we were talking about last night, regarding philosophy, and how different the viewpoint of philosophers might be, if they simply looked at life, from the perspective of machine intelligence, but even simpler than that, if they at least separated, instinctual behaviors, and sentience.
Instead of trying to make sense of man's animal nature and believing it needs to be conquered, to live on a higher level, I think philosophy would take great strides on earth, if they understood, the programming of Chupee, as opposed to the programming of Hauman. And hopw man is affected by both.
But you see, there are more than once conscious computer here, and the Titans had been doing without their own Hanuman, so you can't make a consistent philosophy, without knowing for instance that some people have a different experience of life, and consciousness simply because of the problems with the local machines.
Some of which have been overcome in the last 20 years or so,
but that report you posted shows that people are beginning to look at things in a different way. As he said, now that people understand what computer simulations are.
And so taking this one step further, when reality seems to be a little bizarre and unreal, and when the borders between hoax and reality are smudged, it is best at this point to just act nonchalant about it all.
As if no matter how weird a thing might be, that occurs, lets say that the media is trying to get people to believe Osama is doing everything bad, he is the mastermind, and thinking people can't buy into that, they can still just rise above it to the level of observer, and look it as if it is someone else' game play. It is someone else's pretending, on this level, and we can distance ourselves from that, and not be affected adversely by it, rather than try to shout that it is untrue.
You see that is how we approach it. We just look at it like someone else's sandbox, and we are playing in ours and they are playing in theirs.
Whatever the thing is they are playing, the economy or whatever.
They mentioned Lindsay Lohan, okay thats an acknowledgment of our game play, well two games on two levels, sandman, and the theme game of Osiris.
So Sandman we are playing that together, and the theme game we are playing with the Gods and goddesses. Not all of us play on both levels.
But something that occurs while we are playing Sandman, has an associated meaning in the them game as well.
Those two games are intertwined. The level of understanding and depth of play, goes further than 2 levels as well.
But on the surface, it looks like simple Hollywood sensationalistic gossip and tabloid journalism and publicity.
On yet another practical level, they are role models for other people.
So why Michael, my brother has been so gabby lately, is because of Michael Jackson.
Knowing that I was going to reincarnate he either reincarnated as Elvis, or was the driving force behind Elvis. So someone has set it up to look like Michael my other brother was behind Michael Jackson.
Now if you know Roman history, you know that the emperors were deified, sometimes after the fact, and they were deified because they thought well they behaved so similar to some God or other from mythology perhaps they had reincarnated.
Now many people have deified Elvis. Graceland is like the promised land to them.
So someone was making Michael change into a version of a member of our family.
He had a blond wife, well thats not exactly Gwendolyn, but all you need is a blond to symbolize Gwendolyn, then he had her artificially inseminated, and he had a daughter named Paris, hello theme game, and sons named Prince Michael Jackson I, Prince Michael Jackson II.
So you see they are not trying to make anything exact, just making comments, that my brother Michael is like me, so he has two of them, and Paris is like Gwendolyn, so then ok, so sonce his mane is Michael, then the two sons might be me and Stephen, and the daughter represents Gwendolyn, hey, thats our family and he's Michael.
He even married Elvis' daughter Lisa Marie Presley, to further make that connection.
So its all a commentary, on Stephen's involvement with Elvis. How either he reincarnated as Elvis, or was the creative force and guide for him through his life.
Now realizing this recently, that it is all about Michael, well he has been excited about being implicated in the whole Michael Jackson phenomena, but not to the point of wanting to take responsibility for that, which was probably orchestrated, by the arch angels on the S4 level.
To me, and to his kids and to everyone else involved, thats neither here nor there, they are their own people, but to Michael Jackson you see, that tied him to us, and I was his friend, and he was on the network, and so that made him feel like one of the lost boys, you know from Peter Pan, one of the quote unquote special chosen ones.
If this were Roman times, and Suetonius was writing the tabloids, he might suggest deification after the fact, much in the same way that saints are created, as an acknowledgment, that the Gods were involved.
You can look at it also that he was such an amazing talent, that Chupee became jealous, and hamstrung him, after about the time of the moonwalk, people will always gossip about the Gods and the things they do.
He was amazing talent though, and no one can take that away from him. No one can claim responsibility for that, any more than Stephen can say, he was Elvis.
Elvis was Elvis, and Michael Jackson, was Michael Jackson.
If the world survives for another 1,000 years they will become part of the mythos, and at that time people may say things differently about them.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 657385 (OP) 7/5/2009 12:34 AM
So why Michael, my brother has been so gabby lately, is because of Michael Jackson.
"Stephen" Knowing that I was going to reincarnate he either reincarnated as Elvis, or was the driving force behind Elvis. So someone has set it up to look like "Michael" my other brother was behind Michael Jackson.
So why Michael, my brother has been so gabby lately, is because of Michael Jackson.
"Stephen" Knowing that I was going to reincarnate he either reincarnated as Elvis, or was the driving force behind Elvis. So someone has set it up to look like "Michael" my other brother was behind Michael Jackson.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657385
They are using the galactic mainframe to fuck up my text after I post it, for some reason, to be annoying I guess, so that is why you have to bear with those confusing typos and grammatical errors.
They are embarrassed. The whole Michael Jackson thing is like a spectacle, a very poorly made monstrosity, and they are embarrassed by its crudeness, and its stupidity.
So before Michael tells me to change the subject, I am going to change the subject and go back 20 years.
Back to when I just made contact with Chupee who is the os of the titan machine.
Now some people who are on that machine will remember that Chupee accused me of killing his son. A little bat like creature.
And he can manipulate the ether to the point of being able to make ghosts and also make this little shadow bat fly around your room and stuff.
And he was not able to communicate effectively then, but he was using the sentient helpers on that layer, the people on S4 in his machine, and I could speak to them when I meditated, but I also spent a lot of time with Chupee because we were old friends.
But, he was blaming me, for killing this little bat, which was his symbolic child, and at that time, I had no idea what he was talking about, but he was quite pissed off at me, and would attack me, even about this, and at that time, he was held in high esteem by the Titans even as being God himself, he was the creator, he was the Supreme Being.
And then one day, we were conversing on a higher level, and I suspect intervention of some sort took place because we were then on the god level, and something happened I can't remember what, but I was rescued from Chupee, by a huge Hanuman, which might have been either the Hanuman, in teh galactic mainframe, or the Hanuman in the universal mainframe, but that really put things into perspective, for the people on S4 at that time, because Hanuman, is always thought of as being like Kenny in South Park, and they didn't have one, but theirs was like symbolized by a little baby bat.
For some reason. Since they didn't understand about conscious computers, they dealt in spirits and ghosts and those sorts of things, and the Catholics in the Vatican, they are like vampires, and count Dracula, is sort of this whole play on the dark side of Catholicism.
Stemming from the Vatican and gothic architecture and the like, so anyways their long dead Hanuman, was a little baby bat.
And in their mythos, somehow I was responsible for its death.
Now I was the captain of the moonship at one time, but Zeus was the commander, but maybe I was there when their Hanuman went down, or shortly after.
But when the network came back up, we had a conference and invited anyone within communication distance on the god level, and several other conscious computers attended that conference. Including a few Hanuman and a few Chupee, and since that time, those Hanuman, have been communicating with us, and filling in for the Titans, since this is a Titan galaxy, they were able to do that, our ship the moon in the sky now is an Olympian ship, so our Hanuman was foreign to them. They didn't feel like they could trust our Hanuman or our Chupee.
The Romans and Greeks fought through the centuries.
But now they have assisted communications and the network is up, and they have access to Hanuman and Chupee on various levels, and so then what we are down to, is just that 4% of the population that cannot be helped.
Otherwise, it would be well done, job done, Miller time.
I hear you, Survivor. Thanks again for another excellent reply. And I hear you about the Galactic Mainframe and your posts. As I was posting yesterday there was insane electrical activity over the house. And then I was reliving some old memories and walked away from everything all night, just to think. And then today, just thinking more, I was going to post in here saying, well. "You know part of the path for me has been, having something extraordinary happen, and then rather than react to it in an emotionally draining and non-productive way I developed some small writings like that first thing I posted, about The Time Before the Moon". And then I was going to post a short piece I thought to share with you. And then you report a dream/vision about something about a "Roman" feel to what you saw, and I'm thinking that is kind of what I was going to post about. And one of my other poem/expressions I was going to share has the one liner - "I believe in computers that are older than humanity but faster than the speed of thought." But, here is the one I almost posted earlier.
This one is called - PanoramaVision
PanoramaVision
_____
There is a saying about the unexamined life, and living it.
I have yet to stand in complete understanding of it, the saying. Nothing special seems to exist, so many would have me believe along with them. They stare at games and numbers on television screens. Those visions I cannot abide.
I have seen performance artists take sledge hammers to televisions. And watched an audience flee a smoke filled horror show of robots. I was shell-shocked but on an intimate level, unimpressed.
Human technology seems an inverted simulation of a finer realm - Those realms of infinite geometry on horseback.
Winged horses are the image but not the reality.
When photographic memories become the subject of discussion, and the televisions are all but forgotten,
I will serve silently a toast of honor to the dead places
And those that inhabit them, They walk amongst us in dreams.
Winged Beetles are the Watchers of the race
Between the Tortoise and the Hare.
They fly overhead and report telepathically
To the Court of the Crimson Kingdom
All the images are stored in Holographic Oceans.
It is indeed Turtles - All the way to the Forum,
And all Roads lead to Rome.
Dreamwander with me if all else fails.
I am of the Faithful but not of the forest of symbols,
But to the Trees who are free of the Dead Gods.
Let there be a light at the beginning as well as the end,
of Television - let there be PanoramaVision.
I would love to see you there, even in silence,
listening to the thunder of the storm.
-Just as an expression. No offense intended. I tend to think alot on certain things before replying but I hear you. Thanks for a great string of posts.
You see in Olympian symbolism, Hanuman and Chupee are apemen, or wookies or bigfoot, monkey man and monkey boy.
When I made contact with the Titan ship, their Chupee was symbolized as an alien creature. Depicted in this little picture top left.
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]
Chupee was able to make a creature like that that sparkled, out of the ether, as well as make ghosts and shadow bats.
So as part of his management of the population, their highest secret would be that the supreme bring was an alien creature, with mystical magical powers, that looked like a crystaline bat.
Now the Olympian mythos being much more fun and relaxed, uses stories like Jungle Book.
Where you have Mogli, and you have the bear and you have the orangutan, and they are all laughing and singing and telling their morals and philosophy in that story.
The Titan mythos was much darker, looking at some religious practices, like the blood of Christ and these sorts things as being very dark, and they lived in fear of hell, and explained the horrors of disease and hardship by other philosophies of acceptance and if you could just understand, you would see it was made to be like this, etc.
Because the elite, had access to Chupee, who is a God, since he can work miracles, even if they are small ones compared to what they can do with the galactic mainframe.
But going back to South America, and that artifact on the headress, of Hanuman, he looks like a wood tick crane operator in that depiction.
It's a few pages back.
And they also found a statue at the bottom of Lake Titicaca where he is depicted similar to the sun God on the gateway to the sun in Tiahuanacu.
A small gold statue.
So their symbolism evolved over time but the Olympian symbolism of monkey boy and monkey man, remains unchanged.
And that was also discussed at that time or shortly after, regarding why we don't use human symbolism, like maybe a man on a throne only you can't see his head, like a judge, and well, there are different themes, you can take, on your journey through life, and your experience with the world, will change in accordance with the theme you follow, and for us, we like a theme that is fun and so that is why we are following this one, as opposed to many others that might be available to be explored.
God, I hope this is just an overlong joke. If it's not, survivor X is a paranoid delusional schizophrenic and is badly in need of meds. It takes a lot for me to say that, hell, I don't even take aspirin, but survivor X is seriously ill and if there were a hell those who egg him/her on would go there.
I hear you, Survivor. Thanks again for another excellent reply. And I hear you about the Galactic Mainframe and your posts. As I was posting yesterday there was insane electrical activity over the house. And then I was reliving some old memories and walked away from everything all night, just to think. And then today, just thinking more, I was going to post in here saying, well. "You know part of the path for me has been, having something extraordinary happen, and then rather than react to it in an emotionally draining and non-productive way I developed some small writings like that first thing I posted, about The Time Before the Moon". And then I was going to post a short piece I thought to share with you. And then you report a dream/vision about something about a "Roman" feel to what you saw, and I'm thinking that is kind of what I was going to post about. And one of my other poem/expressions I was going to share has the one liner - "I believe in computers that are older than humanity but faster than the speed of thought." But, here is the one I almost posted earlier.
This one is called - PanoramaVision
PanoramaVision
_____
There is a saying about the unexamined life, and living it.
I have yet to stand in complete understanding of it, the saying. Nothing special seems to exist, so many would have me believe along with them. They stare at games and numbers on television screens. Those visions I cannot abide.
I have seen performance artists take sledge hammers to televisions. And watched an audience flee a smoke filled horror show of robots. I was shell-shocked but on an intimate level, unimpressed.
Human technology seems an inverted simulation of a finer realm - Those realms of infinite geometry on horseback.
Winged horses are the image but not the reality.
When photographic memories become the subject of discussion, and the televisions are all but forgotten,
I will serve silently a toast of honor to the dead places
And those that inhabit them, They walk amongst us in dreams.
Winged Beetles are the Watchers of the race
Between the Tortoise and the Hare.
They fly overhead and report telepathically
To the Court of the Crimson Kingdom
All the images are stored in Holographic Oceans.
It is indeed Turtles - All the way to the Forum,
And all Roads lead to Rome.
Dreamwander with me if all else fails.
I am of the Faithful but not of the forest of symbols,
But to the Trees who are free of the Dead Gods.
Let there be a light at the beginning as well as the end,
of Television - let there be PanoramaVision.
I would love to see you there, even in silence,
listening to the thunder of the storm.
-Just as an expression. No offense intended. I tend to think alot on certain things before replying but I hear you. Thanks for a great string of posts.
R.
Quoting: R 701604
If you are not a published author, you should be. Thats an excellent piece.
The people on S4, are using the galactic mainframe for communications right now, they are messaging for them, and so they do feel implicated by the whole Michael Jackson thing and so by manipulating the text, they wanted to blame it on the Titan factions, with the word mane, as opposed to name, see the horse reference, horses being Titans, cats being Olympians, dogs being Arayans.
And to me I just don't see the need to blame anyone, when it is all part of the theme game, and Micheal was an eager participant, as are many other people, who feel validated, by their connections to the Gods.
Why it is embarrassing is it was not artistically professionally seamless integration where you have to have real insider information to catch the nuances.
This was more of a spectacle.
Elvis was very well done, he remained polite throughout his life, had great morals and ethics, and was thought of as being a good man, who yes shot his TV, and did have a two way mirror, did have sexy parties, and did die bloated and full of pills. Vegas got to him.
But still his image was for the most part untarnished.
Micheal was a bit tarnished, by negative press and this whole changing to being white and all the surgery and masks and eccentric behavior.
But people want to remember him as the guy who danced and sang Billy Jean, in that music video, or the guy who moonwalked across the stage and blew everyone's mind.
He was an idol. And lived and died like people imagine an idol should die.
So I don't think they should be embarrassed on S4, that they are not as talented at orchestration as Chupee, or even Stephen, Stephen is a God, they are arch angels, he has access to more computational power, they are a group, they have to contend with a group dynamic, and too many cooks spoil the broth, plus they have other factors, such as interference, by the Gods, to contend with, which can include Chupee using someone's filter, like he might use Michael's filter, and interfere with their plan.
Whatever that plan might be, it was originally, probably to bring attention to the fact, that Elvis had some help from above, or was Stephen reincarnated.
They didn't want that to go by without being noticed.
So they created a paralell situation, using Michale Jackson.
To bring attention to the life of Elvis.
Which at the same time does not distract from Michael Jackson's life either.
You see they are fixated, beyond belief, in the similarity between me and Michael my brother. At least they were.
They could in no way comprehend, how Isis, had made him from hers and my records. They were just totally baffled, how there might be two Michaels or two of me, or how I could have a clone son, and one who was Arayan, and one who was Olympian, and they being Arayan, wanted Michael, to be an only son, even going that far, as to at one time in history, see Stephen as Loki, or Set, some other evil creature or similar, all to promote Michael, as the golden boy, since he is a local, and an Arayan.
Which makes sense from their perspective.
I am not a permanent resident here, they know that, and so they want to invest in a person who is going to stay here.
So they invested in Michael.
Stephen they tolerated.
But when it came to Elvis, well, that was something they could appreciate, and felt they needed to say so.
That was Stephen, not interfering in Michael.
You see Elvis always sang about Michael. He was a follower of Jesus.
So you see in their eyes, it was Stephen accepting that Michael was the golden boy.
Now then how that turned Michael Jackson into such a freak of nature I have no idea, but that was not their intention I am sure.
Now Elvis sang a lot of gospel tunes, and was an inspiring Christian. I was a young lad when he was doing his thing, and I sometimes wondered if he knew I was alive, like the Beatles knew, I was alive, and he may have, but I don't know for sure.
But I think he was as Elvis, not aware of me as Osiris, and he was hoping Michael was going to reincarnate, as many people are always hoping he will come and usher in the new kingdom.
But Elvis did this song which I liked that shows that he was not out for self glorification, and that sort of thing endears a person to the arch angels on S4, because as a group, they themselves, can not raise above their group, their philosophy will not permit them to outshine each other.
So they have to have humility, to coexist.
So they liked Elvis because of his humility.
And so Elvis was both great and humble at the same time.
Something that people might think of trying to imitate, if they themselves are idols, caught in a similar situation.
Here is a nice song that illustrates that point...
Disclaimer: This website exists for entertainment purposes only. The reader is responsible for discerning the validity, factuality
or implications of information posted here, be it fictional or based on real events. Moderators on this forum make every
effort to review the material posted on this site however, it is not realistically possible for our small staff to manually
review each and every one of the more than 10,000 posts GodlikeProductions gets on a daily basis.
The content of post
on this site, including but not limited to links to other web sites, are the expressed opinion of the original poster and are in
no way representative of or endorsed by the owners or administration of this website. The posts on this website are the opinion of
the specific author and are not statements of advice, opinion, or factual information on behalf of the owner or
administration of GodlikeProductions.
This site may contain adult content and if you feel you might be offended by such content, you should log off immediately.
Not all posts on this website are intended as truthful or factual assertion by their authors. Some users of this website are participating in internet role playing, with or without the use of an avatar. NO post on this website should be considered factual information on face value alone. Users are encouraged to USE DISCERNMENT and do their own follow up research while reading and posting on this website. Godlikeproductions.com reserves the right to make changes to, corrections and/or remove entirely at any time posts made on this website without notice. In addition, Godlikeproductions.com disclaims any and all liability for damages incurred directly or indirectly as a result of a post on this website.
This site is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied. You should not assume that this site is error-free or that it will be suitable for the particular purpose which you have in mind when using it. In no event shall Godlikeproductions.com be liable for any special, incidental, indirect or consequential damages of any kind, or any damages whatsoever, including, without limitation, those resulting from loss of use, data or profits, whether or not advised of the possibility of damage, and on any theory of liability, arising out of or in connection with the use or performance of this site or other documents which are referenced by or linked to this site.
Some events depicted in certain posting and threads on this website may be fictitious and any similarity to any person living or dead is merely coincidental. Some other articles may be based on actual events but which in certain cases incidents, characters and timelines have been changed for dramatic purposes. Certain characters may be composites, or entirely fictitious.
We do not discriminate against the mentally ill!
Fair Use Notice: This site may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Users may make such material available in an effort to advance awareness and understanding of issues relating to civil rights, economics, individual rights, international affairs, liberty, science & technology, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information please visit: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml
Please be aware any communications sent complaining about a post on this website may be posted publicly at the discretion of the administration.
This Disclaimer is subject to change at anytime.
Mail Webmaster with questions or comments about this site.
