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Are cigarettes just a shape goat for big oil

 
conspiracy #1
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Are cigarettes just a shape goat for big oil
What if cigarettes didn't cause cancer and emphasema. but it was really automile exhaust. Its seems there was a agreement reached years ago to make cigarettes the fall guy so everyone wouldn't be suing big oil and banning the use of diesel and gasoline. One of the biggest conspiracies every perpatraited on the World.
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05/20/2009 01:40 AM
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A what?
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scapegoat
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a typo
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A retard.
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They say truth is stranger than fiction ~ lemme see if I got this straight ~ one multi-billion buck industry, afraid of getting sued for health hazards creates another multi-billion buck industry to take the fall for the said health hazards?


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If you think the cigarette industry has as much money and clout and big oil. Go back to sleep.
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I always had this theory about the children and the nasty nasty Bluebirds.
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I always had this theory about the children and the nasty nasty Bluebirds.
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Waiting out the the side of the street....



*cough hack*
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They say truth is stranger than fiction ~ lemme see if I got this straight ~ one multi-billion buck industry, afraid of getting sued for health hazards creates another multi-billion buck industry to take the fall for the said health hazards?


DJthinkin
 Quoting: DaJavoo


Post of the day!


hf
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diesel exhaust is the only proven source of emphasima.

All smoker that die of lung cancer or emphasima have also inhaled mass quanities of exhaust. How can you rule out auto exhaust as a causitive agent.

People that don't smoke get lung cancer and emphasima. Its getting so bad they had to blame it on second hand smoke. LOL
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diesel exhaust is the only proven source of emphasima.

All smoker that die of lung cancer or emphasima have also inhaled mass quanities of exhaust. How can you rule out auto exhaust as a causitive agent.

People that don't smoke get lung cancer and emphasima. Its getting so bad they had to blame it on second hand smoke. LOL
 Quoting: OP 683196


Don´t cigarettes have a little bit of oil in them anyway? :P
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I believe the word you were looking for is emphysema. The internet can make you look very smart if you just take a little time. :)
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You mean all this time I've been smoking the wrong thing?
All great truths begin as blasphemies.
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Some of you may wonder about my spelling. I was raise in LA during the 50s and 60s and you know how lead affects the brain. Leaded gas wow things just aren't the same. Purple haze.
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I once read an interesting theory that all cancers are the result of testing nuclear weapons in the atmosphere. The theory suggested that there are billions upon billions of radioactive particles floating around in the atmosphere from all of the testing done in the past. If one of these particles comes into contact with your skin, you get skin cancer... if you were to inhale one, you get lung cancer.

Since the government would be ultimately responsible for the cause of cancer, it makes a whole lot of sense for them to try and pin it on something else.

Like I said, I thought it was interesting. Not sure I buy into it, though.
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hmmmm...
a shapely goat....
you tryin' to turn this thread into Scottish porn?
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lol Thats not hard to do.

I don't know where you been but you won first prize.
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I believe the word you were looking for is emphysema. The internet can make you look very smart if you just take a little time. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 679347


I guess its all in how you measure people. So much for looks. No spell checker sorry to all the grammer and spelling junkies out there
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What if cigarettes didn't cause cancer and emphasema. but it was really automile exhaust. Its seems there was a agreement reached years ago to make cigarettes the fall guy so everyone wouldn't be suing big oil and banning the use of diesel and gasoline. One of the biggest conspiracies every perpatraited on the World.
 Quoting: conspiracy #1 683196


Close...

Substitute "Big Pharmaceuticals" for "Big Oil" and you're good to go.
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Had a friend who had two PHD's who put me onto it. One in chemistry and one in psychology. He also was an imployee of the DIA for a while. His Papy was an advisor to a couple of the presidents. Blackwell was his name. Last name that is. Never heard the dads name but his name was Richard.
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Re: Are cigarettes just a shape goat for big oil
diesel exhaust is the only proven source of emphasima.

All smoker that die of lung cancer or emphasima have also inhaled mass quanities of exhaust. How can you rule out auto exhaust as a causitive agent.

People that don't smoke get lung cancer and emphasima. Its getting so bad they had to blame it on second hand smoke. LOL


Don´t cigarettes have a little bit of oil in them anyway? :P
 Quoting: SikTh

I have long thought this to be the case..
though that the tobacco co.'s were owned and run by big oil
didn't quite cross my mind.
The oil companies would have huge stakes bought a generation or two ago...(probably not traceable)..In the tobacco industry and have been able to call the shots to add different harmful additives to cigarettes . Big medicine and the anti-smoking lobby may be unwitting participants in this, more likely than not they are run and controlled by the same people.

There is more to this.. I have thought about this very possible conspiracy for a good 20 years.

BTW..The carcinogen in exhaust that gets breathed in is benzine.. that's not to mention foreign particles that also are lung damaging .

The most likely scenario is that cigarette smoking increases your susceptibility to the damaging effects of auto pollution.

In the end it creates a huge profit for the Medical Industry while keeping the eye off the auto/gas industry.. all while leaching off the habitual nature of people in low economic situations.


It could be very much like the De Beer diamond PsyOp cultural manipulation for corporate gain.

Beware the 'shape' goats..lol

Shape shifting corporate mind control goat agents of Satan.

..eek

Last Edited by mu1ti on 05/20/2009 02:53 AM
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

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Mu1ti

I think you on to something there. Glad to see where not all sleeping. I had not taken it that far but it makes sense. Thanks for the contribution
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Oil companies like cigarettes in the shape of goats?? News to me
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lol
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Mu1ti

I think you on to something there. Glad to see where not all sleeping. I had not taken it that far but it makes sense. Thanks for the contribution
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683196



The statistics that could bring some of this to the light of day would be ; deaths from lung cancer in remote country area where people smoke but not subjected to much exhausts fumes over their lifetimes. Or the rate of lung cancer in remote places on smokers generally.

I remember talking to old blokes back in the 60-70's when I lived out in the sticks, they were like 85-90 yo had been smoking since they were teenagers..heavily. Not just one or two either people ...

The rate of lung cancer generally has risen exponentially with the amount of exhaust in the air..

More stats needed like; cities with X air pollution and their Cancer deaths compared with cities with Y air pollution and their Cancer deaths ..etc

If you think 911 was an unthinkable conspiracy?
This is 10 times as big.

Any TPTB capable of one would most certainly be capable of the other.
"It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same--everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another's existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same--people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world."
- George Orwell, 1984

[link to thesecrettempleofit.blogspot.com]
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My friend Richard that I mentioned above said that they had done this type of comparison between city dwellers and people who live in the country with little auto polution and the results confirmed that exhaust was the major cause of lung cancer etc.
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Re: Are cigarettes just a shape goat for big oil
Sounds reasonable
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THE REAL BIG LIE ABOUT OIL, is this..


The notion perpetrated by the education system, and those who, pushed for evolutionary type religions is the idea that OIL came from decaying Dinosaurs !


There are so many lies in this world, being sold to the sheeple, it is mind blowing..


A-Biotic Oil theory is better if not the correct answer..








Jesus is truth !
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That one I have not looked into. Oil not from dinasours. Interesting. Where is it from. Do you have any links so I could further an investigation. thanks
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hmmmm...
a shapely goat....
you tryin' to turn this thread into Scottish porn?
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LOL toooo funny

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