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Was Jesus a Pathological Liar?

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05/20/2009 12:57 PM
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Was Jesus a Pathological Liar?
Is this as close to a general resurrection as Christians will ever see?

No matter how many times I have quoted John 14: 13 -14: “Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.” Christians turn a deaf ear and simply ignore Jesus’ promise of help. Yet Christians are convinced they will go to Heaven and have salvation when Jesus NEVER gave a plan of salvation in the Synoptic Gospels and one is hard pressed to even find one in the Gospel of John.

However, despite this very vague and strange soteriology of Jesus, Christians are convince they will go to Heaven and they are equally convinced the unsaved will go to Hell.

But just how many lies of Jesus and the Gospels can simply be ignored and Christians can still be confident that everything Jesus states is true?!

So here is my challenge to the Christian community: Since the Gospel of John is generally consider the last Gospel written and contains a more fully developed Christology (such as the famous verse of John 3:16), I want any Christian to prove that neither Jesus nor the Gospel writers are pathological liars.

Lets start with one verse from John’s Gospel and I want any Christian to prove this statement of Jesus is true and correct based on the Canonical 66 book Biblical text.

“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” John 8: 44

A. Please prove from the Biblical text where Satan EVER killed or murdered anyone!

B. Please prove from the Biblical text where Satan EVER told a lie!

Christians, if Jesus is everything you claim he is (God in flesh, the living sinless Word of Truth and the only hope for eternal salvation) this should be easy for you to do.

On the other hand, if you can't give direct proof text examples, how can you trust anything Jesus or the Gospels text tell you? How can you remain a Christian in spite of known Biblical lies?

Get your priest or preacher involved here. Tell him to earn his money!

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05/20/2009 01:10 PM
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Re: Was Jesus a Pathological Liar?
Well, the way I see it is that a person has 4 choices......

about their opinion on Jesus.....

1. Jesus is God
2. Jesus is a liar
3. Jesus is insane
4. Jesus never existed

If Jesus is God and you don't believe it He is still God.

If Jesus is a liar, insane, or never existed then he doesn't matter at all......

and therefore irrelevant to you.

Pretty simple.

Last Edited by panthera~onca on 05/20/2009 01:10 PM
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