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I live in a Midwestern state. Near me is a huge shooting range, which is going to be put out of business by the EPA. Just before the completion of this article, the owner, call him W, of this particular range has unfortunately demanded that I not use his name or specify which range I am discussing in this article. I think this is a mistake on his part, but I have to honor it. This issue of shutting down this range is so large, so interconnected to all the issues that the infowars.com/prisonplanet.com audience is concerned with, that I will go at length into all the issues in detail in this article. At first, you might think, “ah, shutting down this range is just more of the same tricks by the New World Order.” And that’s true, of course. But there is something much bigger, deeper to this that I think most people are missing: the New World Order is trying to kill gun culture, and this is more important than their trying to destroy the Second Amendment. So, before we get into this story of this particular gun range, let’s first discuss why this story is so important: indeed, a core issue.

Amid all our discussion in the Patriot alternative media about the New World Order’s covert plans to remove the Second Amendment in America, we are perhaps not putting enough energy into what is conceivably an even deeper issue: the New World Order wants to destroy the ultra-powerful spirit of the American gun culture. Destroying the Second Amendment is actually not the most important issue in the New World Order attack against our inalienable right to self-protection. It is the second most important. Here’s why…

Creating so-called “laws” (i.e., supposed “divine right” orders) to ban guns in America will not remove our guns or self-protection abilities. Too many of us are stocked up, loaded up, and know how to make crossbows or 12 gauge shotguns from raw parts. So, if King Obama and the moneybags behind him attempt to ban our guns, it will essentially do nothing but make us more determined to protect ourselves, since we will have the means. So, we can expect that the New World Order knows this, of course, and they are thus going deeper into the issue, to more of the heart of the matter, to really, successfully disarm us. How do you do that? You don’t just destroy the Second Amendment, you destroy the popularity of the Second Amendment, you destroy the spirit of the Second Amendment. If Grandpa is not thinking about the Second Amendment in his sleep, so to speak (that’s “the spirit” I just referred to), then he will not be preoccupied with it, and if he’s not, he won’t teach his grandson how to, for example, make a shotgun from plywood and pile. That removes our self-protection faster than removing the laws will. That removes our means for self-protection. This is where the New World Order is really focusing their attack in their attack against our inalienable right to self-protection. But, unfortunately, most patriots in America think the fight is in Congress, with HR 1022, for example, and not in the deep psychological warfare going on against gun culture. This psych warfare is mostly invisible: we are not looking for it, we don’t expect it, and thus we don’t see it, even though “it’s written on the wall.”

The spirit of gun culture will live on even if King Obama tries to obliterate the Second Amendment, as stated. So, what is really needed, from the New World Order’s perspective, is the destruction of gun culture. You know, this is so critical, it almost makes me think that all these redundant bills on Congress are just a distraction for the gun culture, getting us all riles up over them, while they are not even the issue (since they won’t destroy gun culture, as stated). It’s almost as if all these bills in Congress are meant to grab our attention, while the real war— the multi-fronted war on gun culture — goes on right under our noses, but where we are too distracted to see it! If we are so riled up about HR 1022, then who is paying attention to the EPA’s attack on shooting ranges? Answer: nobody! And HR 1022 sits there not fully implemented, while the EPA goes around utterly destroying shooting ranges (and the heart of American gun culture). Again, victory for the New World Order, simply because we are not using our huge brains we have been given!

So, let’s talk about why American gun culture is so, so important. Already there is an overwhelmingly unanimous agreement by the denizens of gun culture that Obama is attempting to take-over and destroy Constitutionalism. Literally, every single time I am in any gun shop or range, even if it’s just a tiny tackle shop that only sells a few wimpy .22 Marlin rifles, I instantly find myself in a discussion with the owner of the shop, or, for example, with the guy sitting there having a cigarette talking to the owner and obviously a regular customer, and it’s like magic, we get into this same intellectual discussion about the current takeover of America. And wherever I go in gun culture, the people I meet are somewhat informed, too. I mean, if I go to church or the university, and start talking about Obama, I have to search far and wide for just one single person who even have just one tiny teeny complaint against the system or against King Obama, or who will have even just one small morsel of information, a single, real factual datum, about what is going on politically in the world (they are too busy debating global warming, gay marriage, sports, their self-help groups, or who knows what). But in gun culture, everyone is informed, at least, let’s say, 20 percent, so to speak (and that’s light years ahead of the aforementioned church and university people!). I think we can see why the EPA is not attacking churches and universities. This issue, I think, could not be clearer folks!

Even little informed members of gun culture, who, for example, vaccinate their children and still think 9/11 was done by “cave people,” will readily agree about, and know several key scary details about, the current financial takeover of We the People. This is the number one subject at shooting ranges and gun shops nationwide these days, from what I can tell; and it’s a very energetic, often cerebral discussion. Discussing AR-15s, the Constitution, ammo shortages, movies, Thomas Jefferson, and AK-47s seems to take a backseat to this topic day-in, day-out at all the ranges and shops I have been to in several states. Again, even those at the shooting ranges and gun shops who are relatively uninformed, and, for example, who voted for John McCain, believing that was different than voting for King Obama, enthusiastically take part in this unanimous agreement and worry that there is something really amiss like never before, that there is a banking takeover and a Sovietization of America being attempted by Obama and Big Money right now.

So, gun culture is, I think, some sort of a revolutionary movement in the making, even if all its members don’t really know it or see it that way yet. There is, quite simply, no more intellectual, passionate, activist group in the United States (excluding much much smaller groups, like We Are Change). (Yes intellectual! I am a former college teacher for the past decade, and the level of intellectual discussion in the shooting ranges and gun shops dwarfs that of the academic institutions, since discussion in academic institutions usually just is over some “specialized” topic over-and-over [such as experiments on the last GMO soy bean], if even that “brainy”, but usually academic just take part in more of the same talk as the rest of culture does: about TV, fake churches, environmentalism, consumerism, the weather, worshiping Obama, etc.)

So, think about all this: If you were the New World Order, would you just go after our guns, or would you also go after this ultra-powerful gun culture? Of course you’d go after both. But also ask yourself this: Which would you go after more fervently? The answer quickly pops in your head again: of course you’d go after the culture itself more-so than the guns. And this is precisely what is going on, and I fear that in all our discussion of King Obama’s decrees to remove our self-protection, we are missing perhaps a bigger issue: gun culture itself is under all-out attack! Now, let’s consider a crystal clear example: the range near my house which is being shut down right now by the EPA.

Every Tuesday through Sunday, for a decade, people have congregated to a large gun range near my house. Again, when writing this article, the owner of this range prohibited me from disclosing which range this is, over his fear of the $1000 per day fines that the EPA is looming over their heads. (I would just like to say, for the record, that I think the owner is making a mistake in doing this.) This particular large range is a family business, run by an old patriot, call him W, and his son, call him P. The mom is typically there too; she’s a dispatcher for the Police Department. Oh, and their dog is also often there, too. This is the heart of the gun culture. But let’s discuss why these details are important (hint: real community is the enemy of the New World Order).

The range has a nice lobby in it where members and non-members alike talk and have a good time daily, in-between shooting sessions. Almost always, conversation at the range is vivid and lively, for hours on end, with many people involved, discussing the Constitution, the Bible, the Founders, socialism versus capitalism, the Federalist Papers, Obama’s banking takeover, talk radio, and, when I am there, infowars.com. But the discussion is, perhaps surprisingly, almost always intellectual discussion—surprisingly because this sort of intellection is vanishingly rare anywhere in America. As stated above, even in my ten years as a college philosophy teacher I did not encounter the other professors involved in such frequent high-level intellectualism—not even close! One is immediately struck when they enter this range how different this atmosphere is from really anywhere else in the United States (the same is true throughout gun culture from coast to coast, and amid Canada’s small gun culture). If you try to start up this sort of intellectual conversation with almost anyone, in any other part of culture outside of gun culture (such as at the average job, or in the churches or universities), it not only almost never reaches the level of intellection that the gun culture conversations do, but furthermore, it is usually a complete joke, quickly gravitating to merely repeating (parroting) what Larry King has recently said on TV, or whatever the Big Government propaganda was that Shawn Hannity happened to belch out on Faux News the night before.

Unless you are entrenched in gun culture, you have no idea that this is what it is like, and you probably think it’s just a bunch of toothless grunting in-breeders, because you saw something like that in the movie Deliverance or some other Hollywood propaganda production. But for true gun culture, it’s really an intellectual community more than anything else, in many ways. This is the case everywhere in gun culture! And this is why it’s dangerous to the New World Order.

Go to a gun shop, and everybody instantly has this invisible bond: we are all bound by the same values: Constitution, guns, pride, family (and very often, but not quite always, religion, too). And these invisible strings we have with one another are powerful; we can all feel them between each other. It’s like we all instantly know what the other is thinking about, we are all long lost friends, and we all want to talk about it. If you are not in gun culture, you don’t know what I am talking about. If you are, you do.

Where else in America is there continually such a congregation of concerned, Constitutionalist Americans who are passionate, involved, intellectual, and, frankly, not zombified and prozaced-out in front of their televisions? I simply cannot think of any other place; nothing is even close. In fact, almost every other place, or any other group, in the United States, is, without exaggeration, zombified in the aforementioned way, and thus, gun culture really sticks out as being a pocket of patriotism and intellectualism.

This type of unification, pride, and bonding among people is the ultimate enemy of the New World Order. It is exactly what can bring them down. And, in fact, if the members of gun culture (which is tens of millions, and which most may not even know they form such a big nationwide group) were just a little more informed on a few things about the New World Order, they would bring down the New World Order with ease by morning, restoring 1776. This is why it’s an “info war.” And if this economic downturn and Sovietization keeps up at its current pace, many in the massive gun culture will perhaps start seeing just a little more clearly than they do now, and they will wake up a little bit more, just enough, and they will know just that little bit more they need to know to awaken them properly to what is at stake and to the danger they are in. We are close to that point now; perhaps halfway there, so to speak.

So, let’s get to the heart of the issues by getting back to the aforementioned range that is being shut down near me here in the Midwest… Following what we have written above, this sort of place is the enemy of the Orwellian world government that is now forming, as stated. And, as we discussed, this New World Order, we can expect, will attack it with all its fury. And guess what? That’s precisely what’s happening to this range. This particular shooting range is going to be shut down by the EPA. Under what reason, you ask? Environmental code violations. The more technical name for this is communitarianism — a word all of you better get acclimated to real fast! (Hint, look up Niki Rapaana on the internet, and that will give you a good start.)

In a nutshell, communitarianism is a philosophy that, unbeknownst to basically all of us (no kidding!), is being written into our city codes and laws. It is all about “what is good for the group”, and it is all about castigating the individual. This is why if you want to build an underground house or cabin in the woods so that you don’t have to pay for heat and air-conditioning, and because you want to have a hideaway or cabin that is inexpensive, hidden, and, well, quite quiet and cozy, you can’t do it, because you have to get permission from the city government and their “certified experts” to do this (it’s city government, but the whole operation comes from the New World Order, of course). And they will say, “oh, no, for your safety, you can’t do that, thanks.” Also, communitarian philosophy is why you have to pay for construction inspections, or even have them in the first place if you are building a house or building. As if we need that, and as if building were just falling down routinely before these city communists took over to “help” us learn how to build properly. Communitarianism is why your school is now all tied to environmentalism and why your children have to learn about gay marriage before they learn about Thomas Jefferson — because communitarianism is all about what is good for community, and oh, of course, the things that are good for community are not guns, religion, empirical science books, and smashing our televisions. No no! We are quietly told, in so many different ways, that what is good for the community is, for example, environmental protection, neighborhood watch, meth watch, spying on your neighbors to make sure they are not growing pot in their backyard garden, and so on. That’s why we have these neighborhood community meetings; not to discuss the Constitution (a person bringing that up at one of those meetings would sure get some head-turns), but to discuss the community (communitarian) priorities (i.e., New World Order philosophies). We go to these meetings just passively allowing the debate to be set before we get involved, rather than beforehand controlling what will be debated in the first place. I don’t have time to discuss it here, but this communitarian agenda has been in the planning since before many of you reading this were born. It’s all secret, and it’s all, um, “for your safety,” of course. Sadly, it’s all too distant from what most Americans can accept about reality, and so they will just not believe something like this is real; they have been conditioned to think at an ESPN-level of reality, unfortunately.

So, back to the gun range… Communitarianism is also, ultimately, why the range is going to be put out of business. In a New World Order community (i.e., a local communitarian setup), we have to watch out for what is good for the disarmed, uneducated, TV-watching herd—Constitutionalists don’t fit into the New World Order’s communitarian city-planning. They are not for that type of a community. So, what is good for this zombic herd, according to the gods of communitarianism? Well, what is good for the herd is a safe clean world (how many times have you heard something like that on TV?), and the shooting range near me of course must conform to this, so the story goes.

So, what the EPA has done is told the range that they have to go out of business all summer (a prime business time), for at least five months, in order to put in a brand new, ultra-expensive ceiling ventilation system in (the range, of course, has taken out a massive loan for this, which they were approved for by less than a hair — actually, it’s still up in the air, no pun intended).

But here’s the issue: How can a shooting range,

• which is already paying mind-boggling taxes monthly

• which is already struggling already just to stay open due to all the government fees

• which is already struggling because fewer people are shooting because everyone is hoarding their ammo, and

• which is already struggling due to a huge loss of business due to the impending economic depression

and so forth—how are they to stay open and survive in such a scenario? Answer: of course they cannot! They know that, we (who are connected to the range) know that, but the EPA, well, they just seem not to know that, somehow; but they don’t really get into that issue too much.

So, long story short: The EPA just found a clever way to put this range out of business. This accomplishes many New World Order goals, perhaps the highest goals the New World Order has: to destroy the gun culture, for reasons discussed above. Where else, now, will the gun owners congregate? Answer: nowhere.

The EPA won’t attack the factories here in town that are dumping toxic waste into the river that flows through town. No way! They are too busy attack the range (and gun culture), which, if it really were a polluter, affects only a fraction of people compared to the river-polluting factory. The EPA won’t attack the ocean boats and submarines worldwide that use sonar, and which is responsible for killing whales by the beach-full. Nope. Have to focus on those scary guys at the shooting range. The EPA won’t attack the Chinese for all their mind-boggling pollution the produce as they make all the slave-produced goods for Wal Mart. The government won’t create forces to monitor the US-Mexico border. No way! Instead they create forces (environmental harassment forces) to monitor the gun owners (i.e., the Constitutionalists). It does not get any clearer than this folks. The government is huge, out of control, focused on one thing: coming after you, both non-communitarians and those who go along with communitarianism alike!

The average TV-watching, hot-dog-eating American probably could never see that this is what is going on—that the EPA is a secret force being used for many freedom-taking operations, such as destroying gun culture. It’s too complex for them to piece together when they have to think about an episode of American Idol coming on soon. They will just believe that, “oh, shutting down the Range is for the earth,” because they have been conditioned to have that sort of a mantra repeating through their head all day every day due to how many times they’ve heard it on television. They probably also wouldn’t notice, if they could glance away from their telescreens long enough, that the EPA in my town is starkly ignoring all the atrocious (and I mean really atrocious!) factories in town that are polluting the rivers and air: they have HUGE smoke stacks all over town that everyone has to breath all day and night (and one of them is the company that makes Aspartame! Yeah, what’s coming out of that smoke stack is really healthy, I am sure). I am not kidding! Go to the university here on the edge of town, across the river, and all the way over there, on many days, you will smell the exhaust from the factories constantly while you walk through the beautiful campus. Ask any student; they will know what you are talking about. So, is this safe? “Oh, of course,” the EPA will tell us (by fiat), just like Aspartame is so safe and wonderful. It’s sort of funny, one of these massive polluting factories is literally right across the street from the range! Everyone complains about these factories all the time, a very visible issue. But is the EPA addressing this complaint of the people? Come on, what kind of a question is that?

If the exhaust is so bad for us to breathe in the shooting range that is under attack, then why hasn’t it affected W and P (the owner and his son), who have literally been there at the range 50 hours per week breathing in all the air for a decade? Answer: because it’s not harmful! But hey, who is really asking that sort of a technical question, anyway, at the EPA. It’s funny: I don’t remember voting for the members of the EPA, or for what their agendas were to be, or for them to even come into existence in the first place. You know, how much of this big government do we vote in anyway. The answer to that is an easy one.
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You've made it way more complicated than it need be.

1) Any "law" passed in contradiction of the US Constitution or its Amendments is to be disobeyed because it is no law regardless of what they call it.

2) In any legal situation, refer to #1 above.

2nd Amendment: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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You've made it way more complicated than it need be.

1) Any "law" passed in contradiction of the US Constitution or its Amendments is to be disobeyed because it is no law regardless of what they call it.

2) In any legal situation, refer to #1 above.

2nd Amendment: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602429

'i' made it complicated? i didnt write the article and its quite obvious you do not follow my threads. i am pro 2nd amendment.

the epa has been closing gun clubs and ranges for 'deleading' for the last several years. pa alone has lost several.

so please spare me and every gun owner - youre post is a tad over simplifying here.

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And so it begins! The struggle for our American Constitutional Freedoms! Give me Liberty or give me Death!
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You've made it way more complicated than it need be.

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if youve been paying any attention
the 2nd amendment is being trampled on; there are how many bills being proposed thatre anti gun legs?

the UNs goal is to disarm the world. kissinger has said 'americas going to be disarmed'. all the anti gun proposals on the books (below) -

this is a list of gun leg's. [link to gunowners.org]

Gun Owners of America Analysis of Current Gun Bills
House:
H.R. 17 (Bartlett): This bill would reaffirm the right to use firearms for self-defense and for defense of one’s home and family.
H.R. 45 (Rush): This bill would require a license for handguns and semiautomatics, including those currently possessed. The applicant must be thumbprinted and sign a certification that, effectively, the firearm will not be kept in a place where it would be available for the defense of the gun owner’s family. The applicant must also make available ALL of his psychiatric records, pass an exam, and pay a fee of up to $25. The license may be renewed after five years and may be revoked. Private sales would be outlawed, and reports to the attorney general of all transactions would be required, even when, as the bill allows, the AG determines that a state licensing system is sufficiently draconian to substitute for the federal license. With virtually no exceptions, ALL firearms transactions (involving semiautos, handguns, long guns, etc.) would be subject to a Brady check. In addition, the bill would make it unlawful in nearly all cases to keep any loaded firearm for self-defense. A variety of “crimes by omission” (such as failure to report certain things) would be created. Criminal penalties of up to ten years and almost unlimited regulatory and inspection authority would be established.
H.R. 197 (Stearns): This bill would establish national standards for concealed carry reciprocity, but would not protect residents of pro-gun states like Vermont and Alaska which do not require paper permits.
H.R. 256 (Jackson-Lee): This bill would, among other things, impose a ten-year prison sentence (a life sentence if death or kidnapping results) for using a firearm to cause bodily injury on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin.
H.R. 257 (Jackson Lee): This bill would take the already Byzantine restrictions on teaching your kids the responsible use of firearms and extend them from handguns to semi-autos; increase the age of applicability from 18 to 21; and increase potential penalties to up to 10 years in prison.

In addition, the bill prohibits unaccompanied minors from gun shows, and subjects parents to up to 3 years in prison for keeping an unloaded gun (with ammunition in the vicinity) if a jury finds that they disregarded a risk, that a kid (including a burglar) would get a hold of the gun and the unauthorized user causes injury. This provision effectively eliminates having guns available for self defense.

H.R. 265 (Jackson-Lee): This bill is intended to remove the disparity between sentencing for crack cocaine (perceived as a drug used more frequently by blacks) and powder cocaine (perceived as a drug used more frequently by whites). The bill is, among other things, intended to relieve sentencing on the basis of the fact that crack cocaine was the drug involved, but increase sentencing on the basis of the fact that a weapon was “brandished.”
H.R. 442 (Rehberg): This bill would provide amnesty for a veteran who acquired a “souvenir” (such as a machine gun) while serving overseas, so long as it is registered during a 90-day grace period.
H.R. 455 (Welch): This bill would add the Missiquoi and Trout Rivers in Vermont to the Wild and Scenic Rivers system, and commission a study on, among other things, the possession of weapons on lands adjacent to the area.
H.R. 495 (Rodriguez, Teague, Engel, Reyes): This bill would authorize $15,000,000 for two years to the BATFE for the purpose of enhancing its project to thwart the transportation of firearms across the Mexican border.
H.R. 510 (Kind et al.): This bill would provide that the manufacturer’s excise tax on recreational equipment be paid quarterly.
H.R. 623 (Reyes): This bill would suspend minimum sentencing requirements in the case of a person who was authorized to carry a firearm in connection with his employment and committed the crime during and in relation to his employment. (See, also, H.R. 834 and H.R. 866.)
H.R. 642 (Flake): This bill would provide that, except for overriding reasons such as national security or safety, public lands should be open to recreational shooting. It would generally require that withdrawal of lands from recreational shooting be offset, and would require congressional committees to be notified in writing before such a withdrawal.
H.R. 673 (Filner, McHugh): This bill would make changes in the federal employee retirement system with respect to certain law enforcement personnel.
H.R. 675 (Filner): This bill would provide police, criminal investigators, and game law enforcement personnel in the Department of Defense with the authority to execute warrants, make arrests, and carry firearms.
H.R. 808: This bill would create a Department of Peace, which would be tasked with, among other things, analyzing policies with respect to “tools of violence, including handguns.”
H.R. 834 (Poe): This bill would suspend minimum sentencing requirements in the case of a person who was authorized to carry a firearm in connection with his employment and committed the crime during and in relation to his employment. (See, also, H.R. 623 and H.R. 866.)
H.R. 866 (Brady et al.): This bill would suspend minimum sentencing requirements in the case of a person who was authorized to carry a firearm in connection with his employment and committed the crime during and in relation to his employment. (See, also, H.R. 623 and H.R. 834.)
H.R. 1022 (Schiff and Bono Mack): This is the 111th Congress’ incarnation of the “gang bill.” It would, among other things, define a “criminal street gang” to include an informal group of five or more people (such as a family or business), each of whom has committed one or more “gang crimes” (such driving by a school with a gun in the car under 18 U.S.C. 922(q)), including a violent felony (such as defending your family against a criminal under circumstances in which a prosecutor feels you should have retreated).
H.R. 1048 (Sires, Hare, Wilson, Frank, Meek): This bill would prohibit the HUD secretary from accepting any fees for enforcing any provision of a dwelling lease agreement that requires registration of firearms or prohibits their possession for sport or self-defense.
H.R. 1074 (Scalise): This bill would allow for the interstate sale of firearms, provided that the laws of the State in which the transfer is conducted and the State of residence of the transferee are complied with, in addition to federal law.
H.R. 1448 (Rodriguez et al.): Like H.R. 495, this bill would authorize $15,000,000 a year to send BATF agents to the Mexican border and to Mexico in connection with “Project Gunrunner.” In addition, it would provide $9,500,000 a year to do things like trace firearms recovered in Mexico, presumably for the purpose of building a case for anti-gun legislation in the U.S. It also contains $150,000,000 a year for other border security operations and $15,000,000 for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
H.R. 1620 (Boozman): This “Vermont-friendly” bill would authorize a person who can lawfully carry concealed in his state of residence -- or has a concealed carry permit from any state -- to carry a concealed firearm in all states. Unlike some reciprocity bills, it allows non-permit states like Vermont to benefit from its provisions and does not set “national standards” for carrying firearms.
H.R. 1684 (Hastings): This bill would codify the Bush Administration's regulations concerning guns in National Parks.
Senate:
S. 160: This is the Senate-passed bill to grant a voting representative for the District of Columbia in the House. As a result of an amendment added on the Senate floor by Senator John Ensign, it would repeal the gun registration and microstamping provisions of D.C. law, and would bar the District from passing new anti-gun statutes.
S. 296 (Chambliss, Cornyn, Coburn, Isakson): This bill would replace the federal income tax with a national sales tax. Although the language is a little muddy, it appears that the 1934 National Firearms Act is retained.
S. 325 (Cochran): The bill would allow pest control pyrotechnics to be exempted from the explosives provisions of Title 18.
S. 371 (Thune, Vitter): This “Vermont-friendly” bill would authorize a person who can lawfully carry concealed in his state of residence -- or has a concealed carry permit from any state -- to carry a concealed firearm in all states. Unlike some reciprocity bills, it allows non-permit states like Vermont to benefit from its provisions and does not set “national standards” for carrying firearms.
S. 556 (Vitter): Current law allows long guns to be purchased in a face-to-face transaction with a gun dealer in a state outside the purchaser’s state of residence. This bill:
* extends that law to all firearms;
* allows the gun to be purchased at a gun show; and
* rescinds provisions that allow the state of residence to reach into another state and prohibit a transaction which has nothing to do with its jurisdiction.
S. 632 (Baucus et al.): This bill would provide that the manufacturer’s excise tax on recreational equipment be paid quarterly.
S. 816 (Crapo): This bill would codify the Bush Administration's regulations concerning guns in National Parks.
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And so it begins! The struggle for our American Constitutional Freedoms! Give me Liberty or give me Death!
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Kissinger Tells President Medvedev... “By September We’ll Have CONFISCATED ALL PRIVATELY OWNED GUNS..."

March 22, 2009

Kremlin reports on the extraordinary meeting held today between President Medvedev and former United States Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (under Nixon), James Baker (under Bush Sr.), Charles Shultz (under Regan), former United States Defense Secretary William Perry (under Clinton), and former US Senator and top defense expert Sam Nunn, are stating that the Americans are acknowledging for the first time their acceptance of a New Global Order...

in which they seek to partner with natural resource rich Russia and the oil rich Nations of the Middle East in order to ensure their survival into the 21st Century.

Leading the United States to the shocking conclusion that their very survival is at risk has been the evaporation of 45 percent of the World’s wealth which has caused a rapid plunge in Global manufacturing leading to a 49 percent collapse in US trade exports which the International Monetary Fund is reported has caused the World’s economy to shrink for the first time in 60 years and has lead Canada’s Central Bank chief David Dodge to state the World is “facing a long and deep recession that will fundamentally alter the nature of capitalism”.

Though Prime Minister Putin has warned that “resorting to a printing press would be unwise and extremely dangerous”, the already bankrupt United States, whose staggering debt is four times higher than their entire National income, has allowed its Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben “Throw Money Out of Helicopters” Bernanke to ‘create out of thin air’ a further $1.2 Trillion to stabilize the American economy, but which in turn has led to the collapse of the US Dollar leading the United Nations to recommend next week that the World “ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies”.

Russian economists further state in these reports that the United States has been left with ‘no other option’ than to force the massive devaluation of the US Dollar in order to ‘shake lose’ from banks and private investors the hundreds of billions they are currently hoarding and is being blamed for collapsing a United States where consumer spending accounts for two-thirds of its economy and which without money to borrow, or borrowers to loan to, is fast approaching the abyss.

With the devaluation of the US dollar, however, massive inflation will ensue causing the value of these currently hoarded hundreds of billions of US Dollars to plummet and forcing them to be spent before they become totally worthless, a policy which China, the largest Global holder of US debt, has voiced increasing concerns about and have cut back on their purchases of American debt even as desperation hits their own factories as orders plunge.

These top American Officials have also assured President Medvedev that new laws being written by the Obama administration will ‘completely’ reform the American financial system by fully integrating it into a single Global Economy due to be enacted during the coming G-20 summit in London.

When President Medvedev voiced his concerns to the Americans over his belief that the US Congress would not allow such a radical new set of laws to pass, these reports continue, Kissinger stated that the American people were being ‘primed’ to overwhelm their lawmakers into swiftly enacting ‘in its entirety’ the Obama administrations new banking and financial laws by the outrageous behavior of those collapsed financial giants that includes: 1.) The insurance giant AIG which after receiving over $300 billion in US taxpayer money paid out nearly $200 million in bonuses; 2.) The collapsed stock selling giant Merrill Lynch which after receiving $20 billion in US taxpayer money paid out $3.6 billion in bonuses; and 3.) The collapsed US banking giant Citigroup who after receiving $45 billion in US taxpayer money announced a $10 million redecoration of their executive office suites.

News from the United States today further confirm Kissinger’s assertions to President Medvedev as US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has now admitted that he had ordered US Senator Christopher Dodd to include the executive pay provision into the stimulus bill which was, in fact, a loophole allowing these controversial bonuses to be paid out.

To such machinations being utilized by their supposed ‘leaders’ against them in order to pave the road from a once sovereign United States to this New World Order these Americans remain nearly clueless, but when pressed by President Medvedev on the plans to ensure that civil society on the North American continent doesn’t break down Kissinger reportedly replied, “By September we’ll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn’t matter what we do, we’ll still be in charge”.

Russian Intelligence reports state that gun ownership statistics in the United States vary widely, but is estimated to be that nearly 50 percent of US households have nearly 270 million guns, none of which these Americans seem now ready to part with without a fight.

But, new reports coming from the United States show that they are fast adopting the tactics used by the German Nazis to disarm their society prior to the installation of fascist rule and martial law by first rendering all private guns useless by eliminating and restricting the ammunition they use. And from new reports coming from the United States we can see that this ‘plan’ is already being instituted with ammunition shortages being reported in Idaho, Georgia, and Louisiana, and a new law just introduced in California which would:

1. Stop the private transfer between individuals of more than 50 rounds of ammunition.2. License and tax anyone selling handgun ammunition commercially and force these stores to get background checks on anyone selling ammunition. 3. Get a thumbprint from anyone buying handgun ammunition. 4. Ban all ammunition sales that don't take place face-to- face, in other words, ban mail-order sales.

Even more chilling for American gun owners was the Obama administrations order to the US Military on March 12 which stated: “Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction.” which would have crippled the US ammunition industry, who are the largest purchasers of used military ammunition brass, but after found out about by US Senators was quickly withdrawn.

To the reasons feared by the leadership class in the United States of their citizens retaining the right to firearms we can read:

“As the growing world-wide economic crisis deepens, military forces from Canada, the United States, and the United Kingdom are preparing to meet angry citizens on the street. The economic crisis - and the public outrage it is causing - is at the forefront of intelligence agencies and military forces in the western world. Prominent trends forecaster Gerald Celente has been sounding the alarm for years, warning that riots and tax revolts are coming to America. The Pentagon, U. K. Ministry of Defense, and Canadian military apparently agree. In November of 2008 the United States Army War College released the report Known Unknowns: Unconventional "Strategic Shocks" in Defense Strategy Development. The report identifies economic collapse as a reason for the defense establishment to conduct domestic operations. The report states,"Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency..."The CIA and MI5 are both watching the economic situation for signs of unrest and political instability. As the Washington Post reports, the CIA has added an economic situation report to its threat assessment for the White House. A further sign that the United States government is anticipating widespread unrest comes with the domestic stationing of the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division. The Army Times reports,"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."Canadian military forces have been given a nearly identical domestic mission in a synchronized move with the United States. Canada's National Post reports that,"The Canadian military has embarked on a wide-ranging plan to turn its reserve soldiers into focused units trained and equipped to respond to a nightmarish array of domestic threats, including terrorist "dirty bomb" attacks, biological agent containment, Arctic catastrophes and natural disasters.”

Reports from the United States are also revealing that for the first time since their Civil War, active duty US Army Troops were put into the streets of Alabama after the killing spree of a crazed gunman, but which the US Army is now reporting it is ‘investigating’ because it doesn’t know who deployed them.

To whom the leadership elite in America are actually planning on protecting themselves from we can further read: “A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.”

As to what these dangerous American terrorists can expect once they are in the custody of their US intelligence services?

“The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) concluded in 2007 that US methods to extract information from prisoners at secret CIA jails as part of the "war on terror" amounted to torture.”

Even worse for these dissident Americans are the chilling revelations from top investigative news journalist Seymour Hersh: “After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.”

So today, as the United States ‘watch list’ for domestic and International terrorists has hit 1 million names, in a country that already has more prisoners than any other Nation in the World, or our entire Earths’ history for that matter, and as sales of weapons and ammunition are still hitting record highs in America since President Obama’s election, it would appear more than likely that the assertions of US officials to Russia that they remain in control of their country is highly doubtful…and needing just one single ‘spark’ to plunge it into full scale civil war.

And whose to say that hasn’t been their ‘plan’ all along?
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event.

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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Wow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else?
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Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event.

Wow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else?
 Quoting: S7EVE

they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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Great post as usual, P. Thanks for the exhaustive list of gun bills before Congress too, haven't seen them listed all in one place before. The article is right. If they prevent us from obtaining ammo, our guns are pretty impotent. If they continue to destroy the places where shooters congregate, learn, practice and, most importantly, keep each other informed...they don't really need to take our guns. IMO, two of the best investments right now are guns and ammo. The "chart" on both looks pretty damn bullish.
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Great post as usual, P. Thanks for the exhaustive list of gun bills before Congress too, haven't seen them listed all in one place before. The article is right. If they prevent us from obtaining ammo, our guns are pretty impotent. If they continue to destroy the places where shooters congregate, learn, practice and, most importantly, keep each other informed...they don't really need to take our guns. IMO, two of the best investments right now are guns and ammo. The "chart" on both looks pretty damn bullish.
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they know they just cant come out and disarm. this list is just a preamble wait til the 'event' occurs.
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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The Constitution formed an Estate in Trust. The only civil, and possibly non-violent way to remedy the Federal perfidy would be for the States to assert the supremacy of the Trust and reassign Trustees.

Note : Language in Constitution “. . .Office of Trust or Profit”. When dealing with Fed Agency employees intruding in our Sovereign capacity we always start by asking the question ; “Are you operating in capacity of an Office of Trust or one of Profit?” They never know how to answer. One or two kicks up the chain of command and the agency goes away. Somebody up there knows they don’t want this can of worms opened.

The States are Beneficiaries of the Trust. The People retain exclusive Rights as delineated in the Articles in Addendum ( Bill of Rights ). These Rights are specifically exempted from the Trust Rez ( Property ) and therefore outside the purview of Federal powers.

The Beneficiaries of a Trust may seize the Trust Rez under one condition. Bankruptcy of the Trustees.

The USA is acknowledged bankrupt for many decades.
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Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event.

Wow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else?

they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

Yep. Barry already bagged a billion for the vaccine. Should be enough to entice the Pharmas to crank it out quickly. That in and of itself is scary, as we all know what happens when Rx's are cranked out quickly. The only question remains...will it be "mandatory" ???
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Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event.

Wow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else?

they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event.

Yep. Barry already bagged a billion for the vaccine. Should be enough to entice the Pharmas to crank it out quickly. That in and of itself is scary, as we all know what happens when Rx's are cranked out quickly. The only question remains...will it be "mandatory" ???
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trick question?
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Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event.

Wow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else?

they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event.

Yep. Barry already bagged a billion for the vaccine. Should be enough to entice the Pharmas to crank it out quickly. That in and of itself is scary, as we all know what happens when Rx's are cranked out quickly. The only question remains...will it be "mandatory" ???

trick question?
 Quoting: Phennommennonn

Hmmmm. Kinda like "have you stopped beating your wife?" Societal pressure will be great to get the shot even if they don't force it, and they'll make the case that anyone who works with the public (that's a giant catch-all) has to take it "for the sake of the community." The new kind of community, of course, not the gun-culture/patriot kind.
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Devil peddlers always stating that they know everything when it is clear that they do not. Phonies, dealing with the devil so as to replace God, but they can not. They state that their actions and words make no difference and that only they can react to what others intend when it is clear that they intend to be devil advocates and against the USA while implying knowledge only known to God in the end.
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Devil peddlers always stating that they know everything when it is clear that they do not. Phonies, dealing with the devil so as to replace God, but they can not. They state that their actions and words make no difference and that only they can react to what others intend when it is clear that they intend to be devil advocates and against the USA while implying knowledge only known to God in the end.
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ahhh but they managed to deceive many
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This story sounds remarkably similar to that of a local shooting range that is in danger of closure... but for a very good reason: the range was built adjacent to a residential and farming area, and residents are actually fearing for their safety from users popping off shells/cartridges - many of which go astray from a lack of even rudimentary safety controls.

A farmer living next door to this massive range routinely finds shattered [and infrequently, whole] clay targets in his fields from the several launchers the range uses - and clearly, if the targets can reach the inner boundaries of his property, then the shell loads can as well. Another nearby family [with children] is equally concerned. Their protestations to the range owner went unanswered until the families addressed the issue before the local county government and the media. Then, suddenly, the range owner generously stated he would build earth berms as a safety precaution - SOMETHING HE SHOULD HAVE DONE BEFORE OPENING HIS BUSINESS. And now, he is petitioning to add archery to his range... yet he still has no safety protocol in place. Hell: even driving ranges have nets to catch stray golfballs [I once had my car windsheild destroyed by a golfball while simply driving past a course... so I know personally the risks]!

I mention this story in rebuttal to all those gun-lovers who immediately jump on a cause whenever they feel their right to bear arms is threatened - their hyperbole and energetic blustery defiance is second only to that of religiosos claiming their faith is being maligned... and it's just as strident. Gun owners need to understand that ownership/use is ONE thing... RESPONSIBLE ownership is another! And this goes doubly for smart-assed fucks who not only love guns... but also try to make a buck from their passion such as the jerk I mentioned above.

BTW: I'm also a gun-owner; and, I live in a large midwestern city in SC Kansas so this story could be the same one from PrisonPlanet.

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Incidentally: the alleged Kissinger quote discussed above first surfaced on the internet on the SORCHA FAAL website. Draw your own conclusions.
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Incidentally: the alleged Kissinger quote discussed above first surfaced on the internet on the SORCHA FAAL website. Draw your own conclusions.
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dr deagle and other radio show hosts have been quoting them same. theres other websites that share this info w/o no mention of faal aka david booth. imo i believe theres truth to it bc its no secret kissinger has been the backbone of the nwo - and to the UN whos number one goal is to disarm the world to include america.

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I got sick shooting at one particular indoor range. I was going once a week and shooting Rem UMC which is pretty dirty ammo. Puts out a lot of smoke. The smoke would just hang in the air. I can't see that they had any ventilation.

So now after firing a mag, I back up to the wall behind me and give it some time to dissipate. Or walk to the other end of the range and back. Plus I don't shoot Rem UMC indoors anymore.
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So I wonder, when they start taking the guns from people, are they going to be able to get the guns away from the criminals?
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So I wonder, when they start taking the guns from people, are they going to be able to get the guns away from the criminals?
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yanno thats what i find to be an oxymoron.
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just wait dearie............blacks are starting to get nervous of king obooboo touchy feelies......it won't long now that all hell gonna break loose over the dems and king obooboo mony policies and liberal social manipulations....whities are gonna riot and blacks have never seen whites rioting.....it get personal
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AS always, linksucks dumbass


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just wait dearie............blacks are starting to get nervous of king obooboo touchy feelies......it won't long now that all hell gonna break loose over the dems and king obooboo mony policies and liberal social manipulations....whities are gonna riot and blacks have never seen whites rioting.....it get personal
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they'll riot too pice.
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//...
Amid all our discussion in the Patriot alternative media about the New World Order’s covert plans to remove the Second Amendment in America, we are perhaps not putting enough energy into what is conceivably an even deeper issue:

the New World Order wants to destroy the ultra-powerful spirit of the American gun culture.

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.

Along that same line:

Two of the moves the nwo has already accomplished, and they are:

1. They have destroyed the ultra-powerful spirit of the American religious base.

2. They have destroyed the ultra-powerful spirit of the family unit.

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AS always, linksucks dumbass


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yea and uh.....as always your threads suck

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BUMP and THANKS for all the info!
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BUMP and THANKS for all the info!
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no problem wink
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH:
Alan Isaacman
The People Vs Larry Flynt
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you've heard a lot here today and I won't try to go back over it all. But you have to go back in that room and make some decisions and there is one thing I want to make very clear to you before you do. I'm not trying to convince you that you should like what Larry Flynt does. I don't like what he does. But what I do like is... that I live in a country... where you and I can make that decision for ourselves. I like that I live in a country where I can pick up Hustler magazine... read it if I want... or throw it in the trash, if that's where I think it belongs. Or better yet I can express my opinion by not buying it. I like that right. I care about it. And you should care about it, too... because we live in a free country. We say that a lot, but sometimes we forget what that means, so listen again. We live in a free country. That is a powerful idea. That's a magnificent way to live. But there is a price for that freedom, which is that sometimes... we have to tolerate things that we don't necessarily like. So go back in that room... where you are free to think whatever you want to think... about Larry Flynt and Hustler magazine. But then ask yourselves if you want to make that decision for the rest of us... because the freedom that everyone in this room enjoys... is, in a very real way, in your hands. If we start throwing up walls against what some of us think is obscene... we may wake up one morning and realize... that walls have been thrown upin places we never expected... and we can't see anythingor... do anything. And that's not freedom. That is not freedom. So, be careful. Thank you."
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