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Anonymous Coward User ID: 602429 United States 05/23/2009 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've made it way more complicated than it need be. 1) Any "law" passed in contradiction of the US Constitution or its Amendments is to be disobeyed because it is no law regardless of what they call it. 2) In any legal situation, refer to #1 above. 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've made it way more complicated than it need be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6024291) Any "law" passed in contradiction of the US Constitution or its Amendments is to be disobeyed because it is no law regardless of what they call it. 2) In any legal situation, refer to #1 above. 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." 'i' made it complicated? i didnt write the article and its quite obvious you do not follow my threads. i am pro 2nd amendment. the epa has been closing gun clubs and ranges for 'deleading' for the last several years. pa alone has lost several. so please spare me and every gun owner - youre post is a tad over simplifying here. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 05/23/2009 08:42 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've made it way more complicated than it need be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 602429if youve been paying any attention the 2nd amendment is being trampled on; there are how many bills being proposed thatre anti gun legs? the UNs goal is to disarm the world. kissinger has said 'americas going to be disarmed'. all the anti gun proposals on the books (below) - this is a list of gun leg's. [link to gunowners.org] Gun Owners of America Analysis of Current Gun Bills House: H.R. 17 (Bartlett): This bill would reaffirm the right to use firearms for self-defense and for defense of one’s home and family. H.R. 45 (Rush): This bill would require a license for handguns and semiautomatics, including those currently possessed. The applicant must be thumbprinted and sign a certification that, effectively, the firearm will not be kept in a place where it would be available for the defense of the gun owner’s family. The applicant must also make available ALL of his psychiatric records, pass an exam, and pay a fee of up to $25. The license may be renewed after five years and may be revoked. Private sales would be outlawed, and reports to the attorney general of all transactions would be required, even when, as the bill allows, the AG determines that a state licensing system is sufficiently draconian to substitute for the federal license. With virtually no exceptions, ALL firearms transactions (involving semiautos, handguns, long guns, etc.) would be subject to a Brady check. In addition, the bill would make it unlawful in nearly all cases to keep any loaded firearm for self-defense. A variety of “crimes by omission” (such as failure to report certain things) would be created. Criminal penalties of up to ten years and almost unlimited regulatory and inspection authority would be established. H.R. 197 (Stearns): This bill would establish national standards for concealed carry reciprocity, but would not protect residents of pro-gun states like Vermont and Alaska which do not require paper permits. H.R. 256 (Jackson-Lee): This bill would, among other things, impose a ten-year prison sentence (a life sentence if death or kidnapping results) for using a firearm to cause bodily injury on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. H.R. 257 (Jackson Lee): This bill would take the already Byzantine restrictions on teaching your kids the responsible use of firearms and extend them from handguns to semi-autos; increase the age of applicability from 18 to 21; and increase potential penalties to up to 10 years in prison. In addition, the bill prohibits unaccompanied minors from gun shows, and subjects parents to up to 3 years in prison for keeping an unloaded gun (with ammunition in the vicinity) if a jury finds that they disregarded a risk, that a kid (including a burglar) would get a hold of the gun and the unauthorized user causes injury. This provision effectively eliminates having guns available for self defense. H.R. 265 (Jackson-Lee): This bill is intended to remove the disparity between sentencing for crack cocaine (perceived as a drug used more frequently by blacks) and powder cocaine (perceived as a drug used more frequently by whites). The bill is, among other things, intended to relieve sentencing on the basis of the fact that crack cocaine was the drug involved, but increase sentencing on the basis of the fact that a weapon was “brandished.” H.R. 442 (Rehberg): This bill would provide amnesty for a veteran who acquired a “souvenir” (such as a machine gun) while serving overseas, so long as it is registered during a 90-day grace period. H.R. 455 (Welch): This bill would add the Missiquoi and Trout Rivers in Vermont to the Wild and Scenic Rivers system, and commission a study on, among other things, the possession of weapons on lands adjacent to the area. H.R. 495 (Rodriguez, Teague, Engel, Reyes): This bill would authorize $15,000,000 for two years to the BATFE for the purpose of enhancing its project to thwart the transportation of firearms across the Mexican border. H.R. 510 (Kind et al.): This bill would provide that the manufacturer’s excise tax on recreational equipment be paid quarterly. H.R. 623 (Reyes): This bill would suspend minimum sentencing requirements in the case of a person who was authorized to carry a firearm in connection with his employment and committed the crime during and in relation to his employment. (See, also, H.R. 834 and H.R. 866.) H.R. 642 (Flake): This bill would provide that, except for overriding reasons such as national security or safety, public lands should be open to recreational shooting. It would generally require that withdrawal of lands from recreational shooting be offset, and would require congressional committees to be notified in writing before such a withdrawal. H.R. 673 (Filner, McHugh): This bill would make changes in the federal employee retirement system with respect to certain law enforcement personnel. H.R. 675 (Filner): This bill would provide police, criminal investigators, and game law enforcement personnel in the Department of Defense with the authority to execute warrants, make arrests, and carry firearms. H.R. 808: This bill would create a Department of Peace, which would be tasked with, among other things, analyzing policies with respect to “tools of violence, including handguns.” H.R. 834 (Poe): This bill would suspend minimum sentencing requirements in the case of a person who was authorized to carry a firearm in connection with his employment and committed the crime during and in relation to his employment. (See, also, H.R. 623 and H.R. 866.) H.R. 866 (Brady et al.): This bill would suspend minimum sentencing requirements in the case of a person who was authorized to carry a firearm in connection with his employment and committed the crime during and in relation to his employment. (See, also, H.R. 623 and H.R. 834.) H.R. 1022 (Schiff and Bono Mack): This is the 111th Congress’ incarnation of the “gang bill.” It would, among other things, define a “criminal street gang” to include an informal group of five or more people (such as a family or business), each of whom has committed one or more “gang crimes” (such driving by a school with a gun in the car under 18 U.S.C. 922(q)), including a violent felony (such as defending your family against a criminal under circumstances in which a prosecutor feels you should have retreated). H.R. 1048 (Sires, Hare, Wilson, Frank, Meek): This bill would prohibit the HUD secretary from accepting any fees for enforcing any provision of a dwelling lease agreement that requires registration of firearms or prohibits their possession for sport or self-defense. H.R. 1074 (Scalise): This bill would allow for the interstate sale of firearms, provided that the laws of the State in which the transfer is conducted and the State of residence of the transferee are complied with, in addition to federal law. H.R. 1448 (Rodriguez et al.): Like H.R. 495, this bill would authorize $15,000,000 a year to send BATF agents to the Mexican border and to Mexico in connection with “Project Gunrunner.” In addition, it would provide $9,500,000 a year to do things like trace firearms recovered in Mexico, presumably for the purpose of building a case for anti-gun legislation in the U.S. It also contains $150,000,000 a year for other border security operations and $15,000,000 for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. H.R. 1620 (Boozman): This “Vermont-friendly” bill would authorize a person who can lawfully carry concealed in his state of residence -- or has a concealed carry permit from any state -- to carry a concealed firearm in all states. Unlike some reciprocity bills, it allows non-permit states like Vermont to benefit from its provisions and does not set “national standards” for carrying firearms. H.R. 1684 (Hastings): This bill would codify the Bush Administration's regulations concerning guns in National Parks. Senate: S. 160: This is the Senate-passed bill to grant a voting representative for the District of Columbia in the House. As a result of an amendment added on the Senate floor by Senator John Ensign, it would repeal the gun registration and microstamping provisions of D.C. law, and would bar the District from passing new anti-gun statutes. S. 296 (Chambliss, Cornyn, Coburn, Isakson): This bill would replace the federal income tax with a national sales tax. Although the language is a little muddy, it appears that the 1934 National Firearms Act is retained. S. 325 (Cochran): The bill would allow pest control pyrotechnics to be exempted from the explosives provisions of Title 18. S. 371 (Thune, Vitter): This “Vermont-friendly” bill would authorize a person who can lawfully carry concealed in his state of residence -- or has a concealed carry permit from any state -- to carry a concealed firearm in all states. Unlike some reciprocity bills, it allows non-permit states like Vermont to benefit from its provisions and does not set “national standards” for carrying firearms. S. 556 (Vitter): Current law allows long guns to be purchased in a face-to-face transaction with a gun dealer in a state outside the purchaser’s state of residence. This bill: * extends that law to all firearms; * allows the gun to be purchased at a gun show; and * rescinds provisions that allow the state of residence to reach into another state and prohibit a transaction which has nothing to do with its jurisdiction. S. 632 (Baucus et al.): This bill would provide that the manufacturer’s excise tax on recreational equipment be paid quarterly. S. 816 (Crapo): This bill would codify the Bush Administration's regulations concerning guns in National Parks. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so it begins! The struggle for our American Constitutional Freedoms! Give me Liberty or give me Death! Quoting: Patrick Henry Mk. II 685177Kissinger Tells President Medvedev... “By September We’ll Have CONFISCATED ALL PRIVATELY OWNED GUNS..." March 22, 2009 Kremlin reports on the extraordinary meeting held today between President Medvedev and former United States Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger (under Nixon), James Baker (under Bush Sr.), Charles Shultz (under Regan), former United States Defense Secretary William Perry (under Clinton), and former US Senator and top defense expert Sam Nunn, are stating that the Americans are acknowledging for the first time their acceptance of a New Global Order... in which they seek to partner with natural resource rich Russia and the oil rich Nations of the Middle East in order to ensure their survival into the 21st Century. Leading the United States to the shocking conclusion that their very survival is at risk has been the evaporation of 45 percent of the World’s wealth which has caused a rapid plunge in Global manufacturing leading to a 49 percent collapse in US trade exports which the International Monetary Fund is reported has caused the World’s economy to shrink for the first time in 60 years and has lead Canada’s Central Bank chief David Dodge to state the World is “facing a long and deep recession that will fundamentally alter the nature of capitalism”. Though Prime Minister Putin has warned that “resorting to a printing press would be unwise and extremely dangerous”, the already bankrupt United States, whose staggering debt is four times higher than their entire National income, has allowed its Federal Reserve Bank Chairman Ben “Throw Money Out of Helicopters” Bernanke to ‘create out of thin air’ a further $1.2 Trillion to stabilize the American economy, but which in turn has led to the collapse of the US Dollar leading the United Nations to recommend next week that the World “ditch the dollar as its reserve currency in favor of a shared basket of currencies”. Russian economists further state in these reports that the United States has been left with ‘no other option’ than to force the massive devaluation of the US Dollar in order to ‘shake lose’ from banks and private investors the hundreds of billions they are currently hoarding and is being blamed for collapsing a United States where consumer spending accounts for two-thirds of its economy and which without money to borrow, or borrowers to loan to, is fast approaching the abyss. With the devaluation of the US dollar, however, massive inflation will ensue causing the value of these currently hoarded hundreds of billions of US Dollars to plummet and forcing them to be spent before they become totally worthless, a policy which China, the largest Global holder of US debt, has voiced increasing concerns about and have cut back on their purchases of American debt even as desperation hits their own factories as orders plunge. These top American Officials have also assured President Medvedev that new laws being written by the Obama administration will ‘completely’ reform the American financial system by fully integrating it into a single Global Economy due to be enacted during the coming G-20 summit in London. When President Medvedev voiced his concerns to the Americans over his belief that the US Congress would not allow such a radical new set of laws to pass, these reports continue, Kissinger stated that the American people were being ‘primed’ to overwhelm their lawmakers into swiftly enacting ‘in its entirety’ the Obama administrations new banking and financial laws by the outrageous behavior of those collapsed financial giants that includes: 1.) The insurance giant AIG which after receiving over $300 billion in US taxpayer money paid out nearly $200 million in bonuses; 2.) The collapsed stock selling giant Merrill Lynch which after receiving $20 billion in US taxpayer money paid out $3.6 billion in bonuses; and 3.) The collapsed US banking giant Citigroup who after receiving $45 billion in US taxpayer money announced a $10 million redecoration of their executive office suites. News from the United States today further confirm Kissinger’s assertions to President Medvedev as US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has now admitted that he had ordered US Senator Christopher Dodd to include the executive pay provision into the stimulus bill which was, in fact, a loophole allowing these controversial bonuses to be paid out. To such machinations being utilized by their supposed ‘leaders’ against them in order to pave the road from a once sovereign United States to this New World Order these Americans remain nearly clueless, but when pressed by President Medvedev on the plans to ensure that civil society on the North American continent doesn’t break down Kissinger reportedly replied, “By September we’ll have confiscated all privately owned guns so it really doesn’t matter what we do, we’ll still be in charge”. Russian Intelligence reports state that gun ownership statistics in the United States vary widely, but is estimated to be that nearly 50 percent of US households have nearly 270 million guns, none of which these Americans seem now ready to part with without a fight. But, new reports coming from the United States show that they are fast adopting the tactics used by the German Nazis to disarm their society prior to the installation of fascist rule and martial law by first rendering all private guns useless by eliminating and restricting the ammunition they use. And from new reports coming from the United States we can see that this ‘plan’ is already being instituted with ammunition shortages being reported in Idaho, Georgia, and Louisiana, and a new law just introduced in California which would: 1. Stop the private transfer between individuals of more than 50 rounds of ammunition.2. License and tax anyone selling handgun ammunition commercially and force these stores to get background checks on anyone selling ammunition. 3. Get a thumbprint from anyone buying handgun ammunition. 4. Ban all ammunition sales that don't take place face-to- face, in other words, ban mail-order sales. Even more chilling for American gun owners was the Obama administrations order to the US Military on March 12 which stated: “Effective immediately DOD Surplus, LLC, will be implementing new requirements for mutilation of fired shell casings. The new DRMS requirement calls for DOD Surplus personnel to witness the mutilation of the property and sign the Certificate of Destruction.” which would have crippled the US ammunition industry, who are the largest purchasers of used military ammunition brass, but after found out about by US Senators was quickly withdrawn. To the reasons feared by the leadership class in the United States of their citizens retaining the right to firearms we can read: “As the growing world-wide economic crisis deepens, military forces from Canada, the United States, and the United Kingdom are preparing to meet angry citizens on the street. The economic crisis - and the public outrage it is causing - is at the forefront of intelligence agencies and military forces in the western world. Prominent trends forecaster Gerald Celente has been sounding the alarm for years, warning that riots and tax revolts are coming to America. The Pentagon, U. K. Ministry of Defense, and Canadian military apparently agree. In November of 2008 the United States Army War College released the report Known Unknowns: Unconventional "Strategic Shocks" in Defense Strategy Development. The report identifies economic collapse as a reason for the defense establishment to conduct domestic operations. The report states,"Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security. Deliberate employment of weapons of mass destruction or other catastrophic capabilities, unforeseen economic collapse, loss of functioning political and legal order, purposeful domestic resistance or insurgency..."The CIA and MI5 are both watching the economic situation for signs of unrest and political instability. As the Washington Post reports, the CIA has added an economic situation report to its threat assessment for the White House. A further sign that the United States government is anticipating widespread unrest comes with the domestic stationing of the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division. The Army Times reports,"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."Canadian military forces have been given a nearly identical domestic mission in a synchronized move with the United States. Canada's National Post reports that,"The Canadian military has embarked on a wide-ranging plan to turn its reserve soldiers into focused units trained and equipped to respond to a nightmarish array of domestic threats, including terrorist "dirty bomb" attacks, biological agent containment, Arctic catastrophes and natural disasters.” Reports from the United States are also revealing that for the first time since their Civil War, active duty US Army Troops were put into the streets of Alabama after the killing spree of a crazed gunman, but which the US Army is now reporting it is ‘investigating’ because it doesn’t know who deployed them. To whom the leadership elite in America are actually planning on protecting themselves from we can further read: “A new document meant to help Missouri law enforcement agencies identify militia members or domestic terrorists has drawn criticism for some of the warning signs mentioned.The Feb. 20 report called "The Modern Militia Movement" mentions such red flags as political bumper stickers for third-party candidates, such as U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, who ran for president last year; talk of conspiracy theories, such as the plan for a superhighway linking Canada to Mexico; and possession of subversive literature.” As to what these dangerous American terrorists can expect once they are in the custody of their US intelligence services? “The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) concluded in 2007 that US methods to extract information from prisoners at secret CIA jails as part of the "war on terror" amounted to torture.” Even worse for these dissident Americans are the chilling revelations from top investigative news journalist Seymour Hersh: “After 9/11, I haven’t written about this yet, but the Central Intelligence Agency was very deeply involved in domestic activities against people they thought to be enemies of the state. Without any legal authority for it. They haven’t been called on it yet. That does happen.” So today, as the United States ‘watch list’ for domestic and International terrorists has hit 1 million names, in a country that already has more prisoners than any other Nation in the World, or our entire Earths’ history for that matter, and as sales of weapons and ammunition are still hitting record highs in America since President Obama’s election, it would appear more than likely that the assertions of US officials to Russia that they remain in control of their country is highly doubtful…and needing just one single ‘spark’ to plunge it into full scale civil war. And whose to say that hasn’t been their ‘plan’ all along? political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event. [link to podcast.gcnlive.com] political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
S7EVE User ID: 365611 United Kingdom 05/23/2009 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event. Quoting: PhennommennonnWow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else? |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event. Quoting: S7EVEWow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else? they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
snark Forum Administrator User ID: 572354 United States 05/23/2009 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great post as usual, P. Thanks for the exhaustive list of gun bills before Congress too, haven't seen them listed all in one place before. The article is right. If they prevent us from obtaining ammo, our guns are pretty impotent. If they continue to destroy the places where shooters congregate, learn, practice and, most importantly, keep each other informed...they don't really need to take our guns. IMO, two of the best investments right now are guns and ammo. The "chart" on both looks pretty damn bullish. Quoting: snarkthey know they just cant come out and disarm. this list is just a preamble wait til the 'event' occurs. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Bean There User ID: 684877 United States 05/23/2009 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Constitution formed an Estate in Trust. The only civil, and possibly non-violent way to remedy the Federal perfidy would be for the States to assert the supremacy of the Trust and reassign Trustees. Note : Language in Constitution “. . .Office of Trust or Profit”. When dealing with Fed Agency employees intruding in our Sovereign capacity we always start by asking the question ; “Are you operating in capacity of an Office of Trust or one of Profit?” They never know how to answer. One or two kicks up the chain of command and the agency goes away. Somebody up there knows they don’t want this can of worms opened. The States are Beneficiaries of the Trust. The People retain exclusive Rights as delineated in the Articles in Addendum ( Bill of Rights ). These Rights are specifically exempted from the Trust Rez ( Property ) and therefore outside the purview of Federal powers. The Beneficiaries of a Trust may seize the Trust Rez under one condition. Bankruptcy of the Trustees. The USA is acknowledged bankrupt for many decades. |
snark Forum Administrator User ID: 572354 United States 05/23/2009 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event. Quoting: PhennommennonnWow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else? they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event. Yep. Barry already bagged a billion for the vaccine. Should be enough to entice the Pharmas to crank it out quickly. That in and of itself is scary, as we all know what happens when Rx's are cranked out quickly. The only question remains...will it be "mandatory" ??? T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event. Quoting: snarkWow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else? they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event. Yep. Barry already bagged a billion for the vaccine. Should be enough to entice the Pharmas to crank it out quickly. That in and of itself is scary, as we all know what happens when Rx's are cranked out quickly. The only question remains...will it be "mandatory" ??? trick question? political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
snark Forum Administrator User ID: 572354 United States 05/23/2009 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dr. Bill Deagle, somewhere during first 10 minutes of the broadcast: Kissinger promised Russia last week that USA will be disarmed by Sept 2009 through an event. Quoting: PhennommennonnWow, September '09 - that seems like awfully 'short notice'...did Kissinger mean a terror attack, you think? Or something else? they already leaked that the pandemic is supposed to be back with a vengeance and they will have the vaccine ready for forced vaccinations. this should be the event. Yep. Barry already bagged a billion for the vaccine. Should be enough to entice the Pharmas to crank it out quickly. That in and of itself is scary, as we all know what happens when Rx's are cranked out quickly. The only question remains...will it be "mandatory" ??? trick question? Hmmmm. Kinda like "have you stopped beating your wife?" Societal pressure will be great to get the shot even if they don't force it, and they'll make the case that anyone who works with the public (that's a giant catch-all) has to take it "for the sake of the community." The new kind of community, of course, not the gun-culture/patriot kind. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 508866 United States 05/23/2009 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Devil peddlers always stating that they know everything when it is clear that they do not. Phonies, dealing with the devil so as to replace God, but they can not. They state that their actions and words make no difference and that only they can react to what others intend when it is clear that they intend to be devil advocates and against the USA while implying knowledge only known to God in the end. |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Devil peddlers always stating that they know everything when it is clear that they do not. Phonies, dealing with the devil so as to replace God, but they can not. They state that their actions and words make no difference and that only they can react to what others intend when it is clear that they intend to be devil advocates and against the USA while implying knowledge only known to God in the end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 508866ahhh but they managed to deceive many political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
gsbltd User ID: 685639 United States 05/23/2009 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story sounds remarkably similar to that of a local shooting range that is in danger of closure... but for a very good reason: the range was built adjacent to a residential and farming area, and residents are actually fearing for their safety from users popping off shells/cartridges - many of which go astray from a lack of even rudimentary safety controls. A farmer living next door to this massive range routinely finds shattered [and infrequently, whole] clay targets in his fields from the several launchers the range uses - and clearly, if the targets can reach the inner boundaries of his property, then the shell loads can as well. Another nearby family [with children] is equally concerned. Their protestations to the range owner went unanswered until the families addressed the issue before the local county government and the media. Then, suddenly, the range owner generously stated he would build earth berms as a safety precaution - SOMETHING HE SHOULD HAVE DONE BEFORE OPENING HIS BUSINESS. And now, he is petitioning to add archery to his range... yet he still has no safety protocol in place. Hell: even driving ranges have nets to catch stray golfballs [I once had my car windsheild destroyed by a golfball while simply driving past a course... so I know personally the risks]! I mention this story in rebuttal to all those gun-lovers who immediately jump on a cause whenever they feel their right to bear arms is threatened - their hyperbole and energetic blustery defiance is second only to that of religiosos claiming their faith is being maligned... and it's just as strident. Gun owners need to understand that ownership/use is ONE thing... RESPONSIBLE ownership is another! And this goes doubly for smart-assed fucks who not only love guns... but also try to make a buck from their passion such as the jerk I mentioned above. BTW: I'm also a gun-owner; and, I live in a large midwestern city in SC Kansas so this story could be the same one from PrisonPlanet. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 05/23/2009 10:33 AM |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Incidentally: the alleged Kissinger quote discussed above first surfaced on the internet on the SORCHA FAAL website. Draw your own conclusions. Quoting: gsbltddr deagle and other radio show hosts have been quoting them same. theres other websites that share this info w/o no mention of faal aka david booth. imo i believe theres truth to it bc its no secret kissinger has been the backbone of the nwo - and to the UN whos number one goal is to disarm the world to include america. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 05/23/2009 11:21 AM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666102 United States 05/23/2009 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got sick shooting at one particular indoor range. I was going once a week and shooting Rem UMC which is pretty dirty ammo. Puts out a lot of smoke. The smoke would just hang in the air. I can't see that they had any ventilation. So now after firing a mag, I back up to the wall behind me and give it some time to dissipate. Or walk to the other end of the range and back. Plus I don't shoot Rem UMC indoors anymore. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I wonder, when they start taking the guns from people, are they going to be able to get the guns away from the criminals? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 568263yanno thats what i find to be an oxymoron. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
picesnator User ID: 639746 United States 05/23/2009 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just wait dearie............blacks are starting to get nervous of king obooboo touchy feelies......it won't long now that all hell gonna break loose over the dems and king obooboo mony policies and liberal social manipulations....whities are gonna riot and blacks have never seen whites rioting.....it get personal |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just wait dearie............blacks are starting to get nervous of king obooboo touchy feelies......it won't long now that all hell gonna break loose over the dems and king obooboo mony policies and liberal social manipulations....whities are gonna riot and blacks have never seen whites rioting.....it get personal Quoting: picesnatorthey'll riot too pice. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Aquarius 7 User ID: 681215 United States 05/23/2009 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | //... Quoting: PhennommennonnAmid all our discussion in the Patriot alternative media about the New World Order’s covert plans to remove the Second Amendment in America, we are perhaps not putting enough energy into what is conceivably an even deeper issue: the New World Order wants to destroy the ultra-powerful spirit of the American gun culture. //... . Along that same line: Two of the moves the nwo has already accomplished, and they are: 1. They have destroyed the ultra-powerful spirit of the American religious base. 2. They have destroyed the ultra-powerful spirit of the family unit. fwiw . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 679187 yea and uh.....as always your threads suck Navy Helo down off San Diego.. Anonymous Coward 2 90 N/A 05/20/09 BREAKING -- 6.7 quake off New Zealand.. Anonymous Coward 3 111 N/A 05/15/09 BREAKING -- TARP repayment! Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 05/23/2009 03:10 PM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
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Phennommennonn (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 581503 United States 05/23/2009 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BUMP and THANKS for all the info! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 685800no problem political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |