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Dread Pirate Roberts (OP)

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You pointed this out OP..."The bible teaches us that the Antichrist will be one man"
For your information when ever an angel comes good or bad, in most case's, not all, when they arrive they are called man.
An example::: Rev. 11:13. "And the same hour (hour of temptation at the end of it) was there a great earthqueake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthqueake were slain of "men" SEVEN THOUSAND: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to God of heaven.
Look at the verse closely with me. Men is being used instead of Nepal or fallen angels. And also look closely who see this happening. Oh you got it, "remnant" and they gave glory to God. When Christ puts His foot down on Mt. of Olives, this is when that great earthquake happens. And notice in the next two verses what trump is being sounded. You bet the last trump is being sounded by the seventh angel. And what did Paul say again? You bet the last trump (7th) will shall all be changed. And you can see in verse 12 that the word "cloud" is being used again of those gathering back to Christ just before He puts His foot down.
Let me say simply that when the two witness's shall rise to heaven, so shall the elect of God go with them. And that will be 1/2 day in the morning before Christ comes....
Again, I hope I have not offended you OP. It is fantastic to learn about the Nephal or Naphal fallen angels and all. But we must keep our heads above the flood of lies of the end times.
Ever wondered how long Noah was on the boat? Same five month time frame of when Satan is here.... The positive and negative verify each other in the time line of events.
 Quoting: Little Star

the bible never refers to the Antichrist as an angel. He is a man.

Man of Lawlessness (2Thess 2:3)
man of Sin (2 Thess as above)
Son of Perdition (2 Thess 2:4)
King of Fierce Countenance (Daniel 8:23)

additionally he is referred to as him, his, he elsewhere in the bible

When angels come they are sometimes referred to as angel (example- Exodus 23:20), Angel of the Lord (example, Gen 16:7) or by name Michael (Jude 1:9) or Gabriel (Dan 9:21). Absent that, they are not referred to at all, for "we entertain them unawares". I have not read that the antichrist is an "angel". He is a man.

Noah was not on the ark 5 months. Noah entered the ark in the 600th year of his life, on the 17th day of the 2nd month (Genesis 7:11-13). Noah left the ark on the 27th day of the 2nd month of the following year (Genesis 8:14-15). Therefore, assuming a lunar calendar of 360 days, Noah was on the ark for approximately 370 days.

No you have not offended me. Though, any discussion where a person makes claims and says certain end times doctrines are "lies" but fails to include scripture (which is truth), has much less credibility to me, and perhaps is offensive to God.

Nepal is not used but Nephilim. Meaning "fallen ones".

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Patients in love is better.
I just want to point out that you made a mistake too in when the rapture was started. How about 1830?
Yes, the anti-christ system you mentioned is correct, but still not complete. I am just adding what you have posted.
There are four beast systems that Satan uses.
Political, educational, economical, and worse beast system is religion.
 Quoting: Little Star

Agreed.

As far as the timing of the rapture myth, I did type 1850, but the actual start was around 1828 in England and 1830 in America.

The original seeds of the rapture myth was set in 1549 during the Catholic 'counter-reformation'. As part of the Vatican's attack on Protestants and the Reformation, two new church doctrines were created out of thin air.

First, that the Book of Revelation was all historical and the Antichrist was Nero.
Second, the 70th week of Daniel blasphemy about one Antichrist figure and a covenant of seven years.

Both of these are completely invented doctrines to counter the Protestant Reformation and priests like Martin Luther who identified the Vatican as the home of the Spirit of Antichrist. The Vatican was under pressure and losing thousands of people to the reformation, so they created these myths to take the focus off of Catholicism and the power of the Pope and get people to look in other (false) directions.

The Rapture Myth:

In 1549 Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera created a new doctrine that told of a rapture that occurs 45 days before the appearance of Jesus. This false doctrine did not take and was largely forgotten until the early 1800's.

Around 1828 Edward Irving was a priest in the Catholic Church of England, he rediscovered the myth of the rapture and began teaching it. A man named John Darby heard these teachings and brought the story to America and expanded on the myth (from 45 days to completely pre-Tribulational).


The rapture and the one 'Antichrist' are inventions of the Vatican in the 16th century.

What the scriptures teach is clear; there will be many Antichrists and many false prophets, but there will not be the infamous 'Antichrist' figure that becomes leader of the world.
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You pointed this out OP..."The bible teaches us that the Antichrist will be one man"
For your information when ever an angel comes good or bad, in most case's, not all, when they arrive they are called man.
An example::: Rev. 11:13. "And the same hour (hour of temptation at the end of it) was there a great earthqueake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthqueake were slain of "men" SEVEN THOUSAND: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to God of heaven.
Look at the verse closely with me. Men is being used instead of Nepal or fallen angels. And also look closely who see this happening. Oh you got it, "remnant" and they gave glory to God. When Christ puts His foot down on Mt. of Olives, this is when that great earthquake happens. And notice in the next two verses what trump is being sounded. You bet the last trump is being sounded by the seventh angel. And what did Paul say again? You bet the last trump (7th) will shall all be changed. And you can see in verse 12 that the word "cloud" is being used again of those gathering back to Christ just before He puts His foot down.
Let me say simply that when the two witness's shall rise to heaven, so shall the elect of God go with them. And that will be 1/2 day in the morning before Christ comes....
Again, I hope I have not offended you OP. It is fantastic to learn about the Nephal or Naphal fallen angels and all. But we must keep our heads above the flood of lies of the end times.
Ever wondered how long Noah was on the boat? Same five month time frame of when Satan is here.... The positive and negative verify each other in the time line of events.

the bible never refers to the Antichrist as an angel. He is a man.

Man of Lawlessness (2Thess 2:3)
man of Sin (2 Thess as above)
Son of Perdition (2 Thess 2:4)
King of Fierce Countenance (Daniel 8:23)

additionally he is referred to as him, his, he elsewhere in the bible

When angels come they are sometimes referred to as angel (example- Exodus 23:20), Angel of the Lord (example, Gen 16:7) or by name Michael (Jude 1:9) or Gabriel (Dan 9:21). Absent that, they are not referred to at all, for "we entertain them unawares". I have not read that the antichrist is an "angel". He is a man.

Noah was not on the ark 5 months. Noah entered the ark in the 600th year of his life, on the 17th day of the 2nd month (Genesis 7:11-13). Noah left the ark on the 27th day of the 2nd month of the following year (Genesis 8:14-15). Therefore, assuming a lunar calendar of 360 days, Noah was on the ark for approximately 370 days.

No you have not offended me. Though, any discussion where a person makes claims and says certain end times doctrines are "lies" but fails to include scripture (which is truth), has much less credibility to me, and perhaps is offensive to God.

Nepal is not used but Nephilim. Meaning "fallen ones".
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

What does the bible say about Satan transforming himself into an angel of light?
Who is the son of perdition? Satan not some man of earthly flesh.
LIke I had asked you to do a study on angels when they are on earth are called men or man. So anti-christ is called a man, for sure... Do some research and you will find that I spoke correctly.

About Noah time of water on the boat...
Gen. 7:24. And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.. How long is that? 5 months..
I was correct. I guess I should of made my statement a bit clearer. Sorry OP> I don't mean to offend.
I will ask you this way so you can understand the time line of how long Satan will be here.
How many days did the waters prevail on earth with Noah?
And guess what in Rev.12:15 and 16 how long is that time of "flood of lies"? 5 months... or hundred and fifty days..
That is what I was so poorly pointing out OP.. sorry!
My mind runs at 120, and my fingers run at 30 . lol
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Patients in love is better.
I just want to point out that you made a mistake too in when the rapture was started. How about 1830?
Yes, the anti-christ system you mentioned is correct, but still not complete. I am just adding what you have posted.
There are four beast systems that Satan uses.
Political, educational, economical, and worse beast system is religion.

Agreed.

As far as the timing of the rapture myth, I did type 1850, but the actual start was around 1828 in England and 1830 in America.

The original seeds of the rapture myth was set in 1549 during the Catholic 'counter-reformation'. As part of the Vatican's attack on Protestants and the Reformation, two new church doctrines were created out of thin air.

First, that the Book of Revelation was all historical and the Antichrist was Nero.
Second, the 70th week of Daniel blasphemy about one Antichrist figure and a covenant of seven years.

Both of these are completely invented doctrines to counter the Protestant Reformation and priests like Martin Luther who identified the Vatican as the home of the Spirit of Antichrist. The Vatican was under pressure and losing thousands of people to the reformation, so they created these myths to take the focus off of Catholicism and the power of the Pope and get people to look in other (false) directions.

The Rapture Myth:

In 1549 Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera created a new doctrine that told of a rapture that occurs 45 days before the appearance of Jesus. This false doctrine did not take and was largely forgotten until the early 1800's.

Around 1828 Edward Irving was a priest in the Catholic Church of England, he rediscovered the myth of the rapture and began teaching it. A man named John Darby heard these teachings and brought the story to America and expanded on the myth (from 45 days to completely pre-Tribulational).


The rapture and the one 'Antichrist' are inventions of the Vatican in the 16th century.

What the scriptures teach is clear; there will be many Antichrists and many false prophets, but there will not be the infamous 'Antichrist' figure that becomes leader of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 670060

I don't know who you are, but I like you already. You are very correct. I just gave the time line of when it hit America I guess, on the subject of rapture..
It was Scottsdale if I remember the location of the starting of the rapture..
I also note that in the 2ad of Christ there was someone who also got the rapture started too, but was found wrong... I need my notes: too much to remember at times.
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To Anonymous Coward 670060]

No. And Yes. The bible teaches us that the Antichrist will be one man. He will rise up and have certain qualities that aid him in this rise (smooth talker, boasts, etc). He will offer a solution to the global anguish at that time. He will be venerated as the Messiah. He will confirms a covenant among many that will be the trigger for the tribulation. (Daniel 9)He is a MAN. One man. (John 13:2-7)

However three and a half years into the treaty that he helped conform, up in heaven satan is fought with at God's direction by Michael and satan and his cohorts are thrown down to earth and the heavenly door forever shut against them. (Is 14:12-14). It is at this point satan indwells the man. Daniel 11, Dan 12:1

more on your other comments in a moment

Damn, DPR you are consistently wrong about everything Biblical. It is obvious that you have never read the scriptures; all of your "knowledge" has been gained through various internet sites that teach all sorts of radical false doctrine.

Nothing you say is EVER correct!
Nice to have fans.


The bible teaches us that the Antichrist will be one man.

No it doesn't. What scriptures indicate it is one person?
This is false doctrine, intended to deceive many Christians.
Here are the scriptures that reference him as one man, some of the MANY that do: 2 Thess 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.



He will rise up and have certain qualities that aid him in this rise (smooth talker, boasts, etc). He will offer a solution to the global anguish at that time.

The Bible says nothing even close to this? What Bible are you reading, "Twisted Bible Verses for Dummies"?
No need to sneer. Here are the verses:Daniel 7:7-8 and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth uttering great boasts.AND Dan 11:32 32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.



He will confirms a covenant among many that will be the trigger for the tribulation. (Daniel 9)He is a MAN. One man. (John 13:2-7)

Again, not true, and the verses you listed do not even imply what you wrote.

I said Daniel 9 it is verse 27: Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:


However three and a half years into the treaty that he helped conform, up in heaven satan is fought with at God's direction by Michael and satan and his cohorts are thrown down to earth and the heavenly door forever shut against them. (Is 14:12-14). It is at this point satan indwells the man. Daniel 11, Dan 12:1
One week in the bible is 7 years. other places it's called "a time, times, and half a time," that is a year, two years, and a half a year. This is confirmed later with the number of days and again elsewhere with the number of months...Antichrist's false peace will reign over the world for 1260 days - Daniel 12:7]

Completely, 100% not Biblical. That is not what the verses you listed say.
You consistently 'cherry-pick' Bible verses and use them out of context to support you false doctrine.

I urge you to read the verses and the thread. I know you have angst about me because of the victory and that is because the cross is foolish to those who are perishing.


- There is no one person who is "The Antichrist", this is intentional false doctrine intended to fool people. While we are all waiting for this super man and world leader to show up, the REAL Beast will rise up around us and catch us unprepared.

The Antichrist is a system; John called it the 'Spirit of Antichrist'. (1 John 4:3)
While John makes reference to people who have a spirit of antichrist, there are also other verses, many which are liberally shown throughout this thread, that he is one man. Not a spirit.

- There is absolutely nothing Biblical about a rapture. The rapture lie was invented in the 1850's. It was never a part of church doctrine before that!
Sure it was, always was and always will be, in 1 Thessalonians 4, 1 Corinthians 15. If you read the bible at those spots you will see the rapture explained there.

- You Daniel 9 interpretation is Blasphemous; is is not about some Antichrist, it is about Christ Jesus!

The antichrist will come. He will rule. And many will die. Including you. Unless you grasp the hand of saving grace offered by Jesus that is! I pray you will...we can be together in heaven.


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Patients in love is better.
I just want to point out that you made a mistake too in when the rapture was started. How about 1830?
Yes, the anti-christ system you mentioned is correct, but still not complete. I am just adding what you have posted.
There are four beast systems that Satan uses.
Political, educational, economical, and worse beast system is religion.

Agreed.

As far as the timing of the rapture myth, I did type 1850, but the actual start was around 1828 in England and 1830 in America.

The original seeds of the rapture myth was set in 1549 during the Catholic 'counter-reformation'. As part of the Vatican's attack on Protestants and the Reformation, two new church doctrines were created out of thin air.

First, that the Book of Revelation was all historical and the Antichrist was Nero.
Second, the 70th week of Daniel blasphemy about one Antichrist figure and a covenant of seven years.

Both of these are completely invented doctrines to counter the Protestant Reformation and priests like Martin Luther who identified the Vatican as the home of the Spirit of Antichrist. The Vatican was under pressure and losing thousands of people to the reformation, so they created these myths to take the focus off of Catholicism and the power of the Pope and get people to look in other (false) directions.

The Rapture Myth:

In 1549 Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera created a new doctrine that told of a rapture that occurs 45 days before the appearance of Jesus. This false doctrine did not take and was largely forgotten until the early 1800's.

Around 1828 Edward Irving was a priest in the Catholic Church of England, he rediscovered the myth of the rapture and began teaching it. A man named John Darby heard these teachings and brought the story to America and expanded on the myth (from 45 days to completely pre-Tribulational).


The rapture and the one 'Antichrist' are inventions of the Vatican in the 16th century.

What the scriptures teach is clear; there will be many Antichrists and many false prophets, but there will not be the infamous 'Antichrist' figure that becomes leader of the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 670060

rapture is in the bible Do not be one of the ones Jesus said would be deceived!

I Thessalonians 4:16-18

"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

Rapture is in the bible

I Corinthians 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall all be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality."

Rapture is in the bible

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Rapture is in the bible

I Thessalonians 5:4,9-10 "For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him."

Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Luke 21:34-36 "Be on guard, that your heart may not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon the face of the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."


Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming."
Matthew 24:44 "For the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."
Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour."

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rapture is in the bible Do not be one of the ones Jesus said would be deceived!

I Thessalonians 4:16-18

"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

Rapture is in the bible

I Corinthians 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall all be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality."

Rapture is in the bible

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Rapture is in the bible

I Thessalonians 5:4,9-10 "For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him."

Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Luke 21:34-36 "Be on guard, that your heart may not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon the face of the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."


Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming."
Matthew 24:44 "For the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."
Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour."
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

ALL of you supposed "rapture' verses are actually referring to the day of God's return; the last day of this world.

So yes, there will be a rapture, but at the last trump, at the glorious return of Christ Jesus the events you describe will then happen.

There will not be a 'rapture' even before the prophesied events of the Book of Revelation. The church will endure through the tribulation, and those that are alive and remain will THEN be raptured to join God in the at the time of His return.
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To Anonymous Coward 670060]

No. And Yes. The bible teaches us that the Antichrist will be one man. He will rise up and have certain qualities that aid him in this rise (smooth talker, boasts, etc). He will offer a solution to the global anguish at that time. He will be venerated as the Messiah. He will confirms a covenant among many that will be the trigger for the tribulation. (Daniel 9)He is a MAN. One man. (John 13:2-7)

However three and a half years into the treaty that he helped conform, up in heaven satan is fought with at God's direction by Michael and satan and his cohorts are thrown down to earth and the heavenly door forever shut against them. (Is 14:12-14). It is at this point satan indwells the man. Daniel 11, Dan 12:1

more on your other comments in a moment

Damn, DPR you are consistently wrong about everything Biblical. It is obvious that you have never read the scriptures; all of your "knowledge" has been gained through various internet sites that teach all sorts of radical false doctrine.

Nothing you say is EVER correct!
Nice to have fans.


The bible teaches us that the Antichrist will be one man.

No it doesn't. What scriptures indicate it is one person?
This is false doctrine, intended to deceive many Christians.
Here are the scriptures that reference him as one man, some of the MANY that do: 2 Thess 2:3-4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.



He will rise up and have certain qualities that aid him in this rise (smooth talker, boasts, etc). He will offer a solution to the global anguish at that time.

The Bible says nothing even close to this? What Bible are you reading, "Twisted Bible Verses for Dummies"?
No need to sneer. Here are the verses:Daniel 7:7-8 and behold, this horn possessed eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth uttering great boasts.AND Dan 11:32 32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.



He will confirms a covenant among many that will be the trigger for the tribulation. (Daniel 9)He is a MAN. One man. (John 13:2-7)

Again, not true, and the verses you listed do not even imply what you wrote.

I said Daniel 9 it is verse 27: Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:


However three and a half years into the treaty that he helped conform, up in heaven satan is fought with at God's direction by Michael and satan and his cohorts are thrown down to earth and the heavenly door forever shut against them. (Is 14:12-14). It is at this point satan indwells the man. Daniel 11, Dan 12:1
One week in the bible is 7 years. other places it's called "a time, times, and half a time," that is a year, two years, and a half a year. This is confirmed later with the number of days and again elsewhere with the number of months...Antichrist's false peace will reign over the world for 1260 days - Daniel 12:7]

Completely, 100% not Biblical. That is not what the verses you listed say.
You consistently 'cherry-pick' Bible verses and use them out of context to support you false doctrine.

I urge you to read the verses and the thread. I know you have angst about me because of the victory and that is because the cross is foolish to those who are perishing.


- There is no one person who is "The Antichrist", this is intentional false doctrine intended to fool people. While we are all waiting for this super man and world leader to show up, the REAL Beast will rise up around us and catch us unprepared.

The Antichrist is a system; John called it the 'Spirit of Antichrist'. (1 John 4:3)
While John makes reference to people who have a spirit of antichrist, there are also other verses, many which are liberally shown throughout this thread, that he is one man. Not a spirit.

- There is absolutely nothing Biblical about a rapture. The rapture lie was invented in the 1850's. It was never a part of church doctrine before that!
Sure it was, always was and always will be, in 1 Thessalonians 4, 1 Corinthians 15. If you read the bible at those spots you will see the rapture explained there.

- You Daniel 9 interpretation is Blasphemous; is is not about some Antichrist, it is about Christ Jesus!

The antichrist will come. He will rule. And many will die. Including you. Unless you grasp the hand of saving grace offered by Jesus that is! I pray you will...we can be together in heaven.

 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

OP>>> Who is Tyrus in Ezekiel 28?
Does not this sound just like what the anti-christ is going to do in the latter days. Watch the words...
Eze.28:1"The word of the Lord came again unto me saying
2" Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God: Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou has said, " I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas: yet thou art a MAN, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God.
Now if you don't agree that Tyrus is Satan, then how do you explain verse 13?
13: Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God(I bet you know about Adam and Eve in that same garden, right OP?) every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast "created".
What does the next verse say? What is a cherub in verse 14?
Yes Satan will have rainbow about him when he comes and the whole world will think "it" (it is what is written in Mark 13:14 and in Daniel)will be God.
So OP, I have shown to you again that even Satan is called a man in the bible... Sorry for pushing too hard against your teachings....
The whole chapter of Eze. is about Satan.... He has many names..
Blessings to you OP!
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rapture is in the bible Do not be one of the ones Jesus said would be deceived!

I Thessalonians 4:16-18

"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

Rapture is in the bible

I Corinthians 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall all be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality."

Rapture is in the bible

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Rapture is in the bible

I Thessalonians 5:4,9-10 "For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him."

Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Luke 21:34-36 "Be on guard, that your heart may not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon the face of the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."


Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming."
Matthew 24:44 "For the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."
Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour."

ALL of you supposed "rapture' verses are actually referring to the day of God's return; the last day of this world.

So yes, there will be a rapture, but at the last trump, at the glorious return of Christ Jesus the events you describe will then happen.

There will not be a 'rapture' even before the prophesied events of the Book of Revelation. The church will endure through the tribulation, and those that are alive and remain will THEN be raptured to join God in the at the time of His return.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 670060

One commonly used argument raised against the Pre-Trib position originates from the Rapture Scripture found in I Cor. 15:52. The Scripture reads, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

Opponents to the Pre-Trib teaching maintain that this "last trump" must be the same one that the 7th Angel blows during the latter part of the Tribulation Period which is recorded in Revelation 10:7 since this is the last trumpet mentioned being blown in the Book of Revelation.

Pre-Trib opponents find themselves at odds with Scripture on this point when faced with the fact that the "angelic" 7th trumpet of Rev. 10:7 is not the last biblically recorded supernatural trumpet to ever be blown.

Isaiah 27:13 describes what will take place after Jesus Christ has returned to the earth. The time frame presented is after the Tribulation has concluded and Christ has begun His Millennial Reign. It is during this time that a supernatural trumpet will be heard throughout the lands.

Quoting we read, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the Lord in the Holy Mount at Jerusalem."

This Scripture, along with Zechariah 9:14, which tells of the Lord blowing another trumpet at His return, provide substantial clarification regarding the timing of the Rapture.

First it verifies that the Last Trumpet spoken of at the Rapture in I Thess. 4:16 is a uniquely appointed trumpet designated for the end of the Church age and thoroughly refutes the Mid-Trib assertions that there are no other trumpets blown after the angelic tribulation trumpet of Rev. 10:7.

This is conclusive by the trumpets of Zechariah 9 and Isaiah 27 being blown at the very close and then again after the Tribulation - thus after the angelic 7th trumpet of Rev. 10:7

The angelic trump of Rev. 10:7 only presents the last in a series of seven blown trumpets. Revelation 11:15 reveals that this trumpet announces the day when Jesus will begin His reign and will lay His claim to the earth.

Without animosity for fellow believers in Christ who adhere to Post-Trib Rapture teachings, Isa. 27:13 and Zech. 9:14 also greatly narrows the field of debate as to the timing of the Rapture by eliminating the Post-Trib position entirely.

no matter WHEN the rapture will be, and no one really knows, the point is are you ready? Know your position in Christ, kneel at the foot of His cross and ask Him to forgive you...and then no matter when the rapture will be you will enjoy the Marriage Supper with HIM!!
"From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matthew 4:17
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He will confirms a covenant among many that will be the trigger for the tribulation. (Daniel 9)He is a MAN. One man. (John 13:2-7)
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

"He" is Jesus Christ! Daniel 9 is about Jesus Christ, NOT some mythical Antichrist.


I said Daniel 9 it is verse 27: Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

Again, "He" is Jesus Christ! Daniel 9 is about Jesus Christ, NOT some mythical Antichrist.

However three and a half years into the treaty that he helped conform, up in heaven satan is fought with at God's direction by Michael and satan and his cohorts are thrown down to earth and the heavenly door forever shut against them. (Is 14:12-14). It is at this point satan indwells the man. Daniel 11, Dan 12:1
One week in the bible is 7 years. other places it's called "a time, times, and half a time," that is a year, two years, and a half a year. This is confirmed later with the number of days and again elsewhere with the number of months...Antichrist's false peace will reign over the world for 1260 days - Daniel 12:7]
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

The 70th week of Daniel is indeed seven years, but it is about Jesus Christ fulfilling the covenant (promise) of the previous 69 weeks.
His ministry was to last one week (seven years), but HE (Jesus) was 'cut off' (crucified) halfway through the week.

The ministry of Jesus Christ was 3.5 years, exactly as prophesied by Daniel. The remaining 3.5 years the disciples continued to spread the Word to the Jews until the stoning of Steven, which ended the seven years and the 70th week of Daniel.

It was then that the disciples took the Word out of Jerusalem and to the Gentiles.

This 7 year reign of an 'Antichrist' is a made up lie by a Jesuit priest in the middle of the 16th century. It is also blasphemy because the 70th week of Daniel is about Jesus Christ, not about this mythical figure invented by the Vatican!
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Patients in love is better.
I just want to point out that you made a mistake too in when the rapture was started. How about 1830?
Yes, the anti-christ system you mentioned is correct, but still not complete. I am just adding what you have posted.
There are four beast systems that Satan uses.
Political, educational, economical, and worse beast system is religion.

Agreed.

As far as the timing of the rapture myth, I did type 1850, but the actual start was around 1828 in England and 1830 in America.

The original seeds of the rapture myth was set in 1549 during the Catholic 'counter-reformation'. As part of the Vatican's attack on Protestants and the Reformation, two new church doctrines were created out of thin air.

First, that the Book of Revelation was all historical and the Antichrist was Nero.
Second, the 70th week of Daniel blasphemy about one Antichrist figure and a covenant of seven years.

Both of these are completely invented doctrines to counter the Protestant Reformation and priests like Martin Luther who identified the Vatican as the home of the Spirit of Antichrist. The Vatican was under pressure and losing thousands of people to the reformation, so they created these myths to take the focus off of Catholicism and the power of the Pope and get people to look in other (false) directions.

The Rapture Myth:

In 1549 Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera created a new doctrine that told of a rapture that occurs 45 days before the appearance of Jesus. This false doctrine did not take and was largely forgotten until the early 1800's.

Around 1828 Edward Irving was a priest in the Catholic Church of England, he rediscovered the myth of the rapture and began teaching it. A man named John Darby heard these teachings and brought the story to America and expanded on the myth (from 45 days to completely pre-Tribulational).


The rapture and the one 'Antichrist' are inventions of the Vatican in the 16th century.

What the scriptures teach is clear; there will be many Antichrists and many false prophets, but there will not be the infamous 'Antichrist' figure that becomes leader of the world.

rapture is in the bible Do not be one of the ones Jesus said would be deceived!

I Thessalonians 4:16-18

"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

Rapture is in the bible

I Corinthians 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall all be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality."

Rapture is in the bible

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Rapture is in the bible

I Thessalonians 5:4,9-10 "For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him."

Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Luke 21:34-36 "Be on guard, that your heart may not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon the face of the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."


Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming."
Matthew 24:44 "For the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."
Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour."
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

OP, look at what you have posted. Son of Man is who? Christ!
Also notice that you keep overlooking the words "last trump" for some reason...
How many seals are there OP?
How many trumps are there OP?
How many viles are there OP?
Christ comes in 777.
Satan comes in 666.
So the gathering back to Christ is true, but the "rapture" is not true! You seem to be having a hard time with this OP!
I already told you in what hour we will gather back to Christ and had given to you scripture that tells us.
I also proved to you how Paul only spoke "street Greek, street slang".
Air in Thess. is not going up into the sky, it is the spiritual body, not air. And clouds means "large body of people or multitude of people". Now that is not hard to understand by any means.
Today we use slang all the time in America and in other countries too. Why is that so hard for you to understand OP?
Again, Eze. chapter 13 tells us God hates those teaching the rapture doctrine. He likes when we teach about the 'gathering back to Christ' but not the rapture which Margret McDonald spoke of in 1828-30...
It does not matter to me on this if you agree or not on the subject of rapture. I do not make a religion out of that information like most Christians do. It is more important to most Christians on the subject of rapture than loving Christ. They put the rapture before their love of Christ that is how bad the deception is working today.
Let me ask you OP, can you tell me and explain to me all of Eccl. chapter 12? If not, then there is not need for me to walk you through figures of speech, metaphors, and etc. It would be a waste of my time and yours.
I do notice tho,OP, that you avoided most of my questions.
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If by chance there are others reading this and you want to know what happens two months before Satan comes, Read Eze. chapter 31:1 to the end. It is a type to go by as to who, what and when Satan comes..And of course the next chapter is talking about Satan too..
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roswell has been disclosed for i think quite awhile but hears something new on it
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rapture is in the bible Do not be one of the ones Jesus said would be deceived!

I Thessalonians 4:16-18

"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up in the air, and thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage each other with these words."

Rapture is in the bible

I Corinthians 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I tell you a mystery; we shall not sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall all be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality."

Rapture is in the bible

1 Corinthians 15:51-52
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Rapture is in the bible

I Thessalonians 5:4,9-10 "For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that whether we are awake or asleep, we may live together with him."

Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Luke 21:34-36 "Be on guard, that your heart may not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day come on you suddenly like a trap; for it will come upon the face of the earth. But keep on the alert at all times, praying in order that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man."


Rapture is in the bible therefore we are warned to be alert

Matthew 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming."
Matthew 24:44 "For the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone."
Matthew 25:13 "Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour."

ALL of you supposed "rapture' verses are actually referring to the day of God's return; the last day of this world.

So yes, there will be a rapture, but at the last trump, at the glorious return of Christ Jesus the events you describe will then happen.

There will not be a 'rapture' even before the prophesied events of the Book of Revelation. The church will endure through the tribulation, and those that are alive and remain will THEN be raptured to join God in the at the time of His return.

One commonly used argument raised against the Pre-Trib position originates from the Rapture Scripture found in I Cor. 15:52. The Scripture reads, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

Opponents to the Pre-Trib teaching maintain that this "last trump" must be the same one that the 7th Angel blows during the latter part of the Tribulation Period which is recorded in Revelation 10:7 since this is the last trumpet mentioned being blown in the Book of Revelation.

Pre-Trib opponents find themselves at odds with Scripture on this point when faced with the fact that the "angelic" 7th trumpet of Rev. 10:7 is not the last biblically recorded supernatural trumpet to ever be blown.

Isaiah 27:13 describes what will take place after Jesus Christ has returned to the earth. The time frame presented is after the Tribulation has concluded and Christ has begun His Millennial Reign. It is during this time that a supernatural trumpet will be heard throughout the lands.

Quoting we read, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the Lord in the Holy Mount at Jerusalem."

This Scripture, along with Zechariah 9:14, which tells of the Lord blowing another trumpet at His return, provide substantial clarification regarding the timing of the Rapture.

First it verifies that the Last Trumpet spoken of at the Rapture in I Thess. 4:16 is a uniquely appointed trumpet designated for the end of the Church age and thoroughly refutes the Mid-Trib assertions that there are no other trumpets blown after the angelic tribulation trumpet of Rev. 10:7.

This is conclusive by the trumpets of Zechariah 9 and Isaiah 27 being blown at the very close and then again after the Tribulation - thus after the angelic 7th trumpet of Rev. 10:7

The angelic trump of Rev. 10:7 only presents the last in a series of seven blown trumpets. Revelation 11:15 reveals that this trumpet announces the day when Jesus will begin His reign and will lay His claim to the earth.

Without animosity for fellow believers in Christ who adhere to Post-Trib Rapture teachings, Isa. 27:13 and Zech. 9:14 also greatly narrows the field of debate as to the timing of the Rapture by eliminating the Post-Trib position entirely.

no matter WHEN the rapture will be, and no one really knows, the point is are you ready? Know your position in Christ, kneel at the foot of His cross and ask Him to forgive you...and then no matter when the rapture will be you will enjoy the Marriage Supper with HIM!!
 Quoting: Dread Pirate Roberts

Sorry OP to disagree with you. Zec. 9:14 is after verse 6. Who is that bastard?
Now Zec. 9 is the 1st advent.
Zec. 10 is the second advent.
But Zec. is only talking about Christ coming to defend His after the workings of the bastard Satan.
You make a statement on different trumps. I never heard that taught by anyone before.
And it is okay by me..
Sorry for offending you OP.
But when you see the bastard Satan with his rainbow appearance marching toward Mt. Zion with 7000 good looking angels, you will know that it is not Christ or God....
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Hey thanks. I was looking for that info. I heard from a friend about this..
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He will confirms a covenant among many that will be the trigger for the tribulation. (Daniel 9)He is a MAN. One man. (John 13:2-7)

"He" is Jesus Christ! Daniel 9 is about Jesus Christ, NOT some mythical Antichrist.



I said Daniel 9 it is verse 27: Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:

Again, "He" is Jesus Christ! Daniel 9 is about Jesus Christ, NOT some mythical Antichrist.


However three and a half years into the treaty that he helped conform, up in heaven satan is fought with at God's direction by Michael and satan and his cohorts are thrown down to earth and the heavenly door forever shut against them. (Is 14:12-14). It is at this point satan indwells the man. Daniel 11, Dan 12:1
One week in the bible is 7 years. other places it's called "a time, times, and half a time," that is a year, two years, and a half a year. This is confirmed later with the number of days and again elsewhere with the number of months...Antichrist's false peace will reign over the world for 1260 days - Daniel 12:7]

The 70th week of Daniel is indeed seven years, but it is about Jesus Christ fulfilling the covenant (promise) of the previous 69 weeks.
His ministry was to last one week (seven years), but HE (Jesus) was 'cut off' (crucified) halfway through the week.

The ministry of Jesus Christ was 3.5 years, exactly as prophesied by Daniel. The remaining 3.5 years the disciples continued to spread the Word to the Jews until the stoning of Steven, which ended the seven years and the 70th week of Daniel.

It was then that the disciples took the Word out of Jerusalem and to the Gentiles.

This 7 year reign of an 'Antichrist' is a made up lie by a Jesuit priest in the middle of the 16th century. It is also blasphemy because the 70th week of Daniel is about Jesus Christ, not about this mythical figure invented by the Vatican!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 670060


Whoa there AC. You've got things 180 degrees out of whack. Please re-read your bible. Not in bits and peices mind you. The whole thing. Praying with an ear (and a heart) to hear an answer could come in handy to. You are seriously mislead. What you have just discribed is the first time I have ever heard what sounds like the great deceptions that antichrist somehow is the savior.

If you aren't just some nut job, if you really believe this, then your post here is a 500w neon sign of the end times that says "WARNING: DEMONIC DECEPTION AHEAD".

Please for the love of God (literally) go back and re-read your bible. You have been deceived.
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Whoa there AC. You've got things 180 degrees out of whack. Please re-read your bible. Not in bits and peices mind you. The whole thing. Praying with an ear (and a heart) to hear an answer could come in handy to. You are seriously mislead. What you have just discribed is the first time I have ever heard what sounds like the great deceptions that antichrist somehow is the savior.

If you aren't just some nut job, if you really believe this, then your post here is a 500w neon sign of the end times that says "WARNING: DEMONIC DECEPTION AHEAD".

Please for the love of God (literally) go back and re-read your bible. You have been deceived.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 669410

I believe it is you that needs to sit down and read the Bible; especially the book of Daniel.

These lies of a seven year reign of 'the Antichrist' and of a rapture are what is part of the Great Deception.

If you truly read the Bible, this truth is inescapable.

The verses used to make up the one Antichrist is in fact the prophecy of the 70 weeks of Daniel. This entire chapter is about Christ Jesus.

The 69 weeks of Daniel are clearly about the promise of a coming Messiah and the 70th week is about Jesus Christ fulfilling the promise.

In the 16th century, Vatican priests took the 70th week of Daniel and magically moved to the the end times and made it about some mythical 'Antichrist' figure instead of Jesus Christ.

Please read the book of Daniel, open your heart to the truth, and then come back and tell me how in any way that could be about an Antichrist and not about Christ Jesus.

First, do you agree the first 69 weeks of Daniel are about the coming Messiah?

Second, if so, how do you rationalize that the 70th week suddenly moves thousands of years into the future and is about an Antichrist?

It makes absolutely no sense.