And some just come in for a day and not the whole weekend.
Yeah, because they can't afford it.
This is wrong. This is what the Woodstock generation has become. This is no better than Paris Hilton and her $5000 shoes, it's just masked in spirituality. It's no better than a megachurch taking money from their parishioners so they can buy new cars. If the goal is to spread light, then you do it as economically as possible so you can reach as many as possible. If the goal is to make money, you rent expensive centers and turn it into nothing more than a marketplace.
And it's not just this and I apologize for those good people who are involved and aren't out to fleece people. But those who are about profit need to be weeded out. Creating a better tomorrow cannot be done by people who put profit above unity and love. I see it everywhere...do a quick google and look at all the self proclaimed lightworkers out there. Look at what you have to PAY to be a Reiki master. To heal people. Look at what many charge for energy healing (not all, many are on the up and up). If YOU discovered a frequency that could help people open their third eye, would you charge thousands for it? Or be so thrilled you'd want it in the hands of as many as possible?
I'm not against the movement. I'm part of it. And now I'm speaking out against those who have twisted it, making it impossible to attain goals of peace, harmony and evolution because they have TAINTED it.
WE NEED TO BE MORE DISCERNING. Because if we don't, everything we've been working for on a global scale cannot happen karmically.
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You are wrong about this but I don't think you'll ever believe me. There is only way to find out and I don't think it'll happen.
Happy Trails to you!
Um, my opinions are not wrong and it's obvious you have given no thought whatsoever to my post because I don't see how there isn't some of it that you wouldn't agree with. You think it's okay that something as amazing as Reiki should cost thousands to learn? Interesting.
My experiences is different than your own. I've been part of this movement for a very long time and have watched this happen. I live in a 'lightworker mecca' so to speak. The people who come and the events themselves have changed dramatically. I'm sorry for you and others who don't see it. It has morphed into something not so different than catholicism unfortunately with diehard followers who'll pay out their noses to be 'saved' without thinking twice about it. Sad, sad, sad.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 659821
To be clear you're wrong about Universal LIghtworkers Conference.
And I've already told you I feel the same as you about the commercialization of spirituality.
I am very grateful that I have found authentic people in my life.
Oh yes, god forbid anyone make any money or not go broke doing spiritual work! When is that out dated notion going to pass?!
The price for the conference is ridiculously low! For 3 days? Are you kidding me? Most other places would be charging two or three times that. I know, I am in the community as a healer and a student. The booth fees alone for a 3 day conference here in MN are around a thousand. And you wouldn't have any access to the lectures.
Part of the reason I gladly give my money to the ULC is the fact that they do offer scholarships for people who can't afford it. No other spiritual teachers do that as far as I know. Generally if you can't pony up the thousands they ask for a few hours of their time you are out of luck. And it's not just one speaker you are getting at the ULC you get to hear several over the course of the weekend.
Anyway,I choose to manifest enough money to go to an event that nourishes my heart and soul. Even if it was more expensive. I refuse to let my fear hold me back. If I want to make money in my chosen field I believe I should be willing to pay people for their work. And a conference like this is work, or organize and run. They deserve to cover their expenses and make some to live on. We all do.
Peace out
message in bottle User ID: 685264 5/27/2009 4:38 PM
Oh yes, god forbid anyone make any money or not go broke doing spiritual work! When is that out dated notion going to pass?!
The price for the conference is ridiculously low! For 3 days? Are you kidding me? Most other places would be charging two or three times that. I know, I am in the community as a healer and a student. The booth fees alone for a 3 day conference here in MN are around a thousand. And you wouldn't have any access to the lectures.
Part of the reason I gladly give my money to the ULC is the fact that they do offer scholarships for people who can't afford it. No other spiritual teachers do that as far as I know. Generally if you can't pony up the thousands they ask for a few hours of their time you are out of luck. And it's not just one speaker you are getting at the ULC you get to hear several over the course of the weekend.
Anyway,I choose to manifest enough money to go to an event that nourishes my heart and soul. Even if it was more expensive. I refuse to let my fear hold me back. If I want to make money in my chosen field I believe I should be willing to pay people for their work. And a conference like this is work, or organize and run. They deserve to cover their expenses and make some to live on. We all do.
Peace out
Quoting: lalahippiechick 688925
Well said, lalahippiechick, well said. You got a lot of good things coming to you, too!
Thanks for the back up.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 689073 5/27/2009 4:53 PM
A weekend out of ordinary day-to-day life to re-fuel around loving people.
I keep telling you all to come to this because it helps to reach the higher levels of being and once there we relax a bit, stop reaching and dwell in the group love frequency.
The first photo is from the first night, Friday night, and it carries on throughout. If you're ready - there's nothing like it. Come with the desire to heal, learn, connect and have fun and you wont be disappointed.
So, you can test it by watching to see if anything like "Ft. Lauderdale" or "Universal Lightworkers" or "go to a gathering" thoughts come to you. You all know what I'm saying.
If you actually were a light worker you would be spending time with wild animals.
These women all look unhealthy and or sexually out of chi yeah, I am female saying this.
Pinch yourselves you all might be drugged up Evangelicals.
If you actually were a light worker you would be spending time with wild animals.
These women all look unhealthy and or sexually out of chi yeah, I am female saying this.
Pinch yourselves you all might be drugged up Evangelicals.
Quoting: areamsure 689442
Haven't you two heard of the term, "judge not".
What is it with you?
"drugged" - that is the funniest thing you've said.
If you actually were a light worker you would be spending time with wild animals.
These women all look unhealthy and or sexually out of chi yeah, I am female saying this.
Pinch yourselves you all might be drugged up Evangelicals.
Haven't you two heard of the term, "judge not".
What is it with you?
"drugged" - that is the funniest thing you've said.
Maybe I was wrong about the peeps here after all.
Quoting: SpydrGrl 689455
I must apologize for losing my patience and snapping at you, areamsure.
Let me assure you the folks at ULC are not "drugged up Evangelicals".
I've read what has been said about the ULC. I'm guessing that some of the people posting have not attended (by their comments). The following is just my opinion and I am not the sort to try and altar anyone else's opinion. But I thought that I would share my thoughts having gone for the first time last year and returning this year. I find the ULC is very different than most of the big events held. In fact, the ULC is the most amazing conferenceI have attended. It has to be experienced to really appreciate what it is. People told me about it and I thought I knew what to expect, but only once I experienced it did I truly understand. It is so personal. It feels like you know everyone there. It is a warmhearted, spiritual conference that draws open minded, loving people back year after year. The speakers invited to participate walk the walk and give uplifting talks. The whole weekend is filled with laughter, music and many opportunities to interact with others who walk the spiritual path. Simply put, it is fun and beneficial in all ways to your mind your heart and your soul. That's my take on it. Make of it what you will.
Notice no one is talking about the presenters, although they are all good.
At ULC it is all about the synergy of EVERYONE coming together to CREATE this experience. We create this vortex that sustains us for months after this short little weekend has ended.
I'm putting it out there because I wanted to share something I personally experienced as being authentic and very uplifting.
Universal Lightworkers Conference surpassed itself in being the focal point for holding authentic love and light for all who attended in body and in spirit. This weekend continues to nourish my spirit and keeps me filled with the joy of being alive. Yup, joy. In the face of the Iranian drama and the rest of the dramas appearing on the world stage. JOY for being alive.
Cohesion is the word for this conference. All the speakers were in a cohesive energy field combining all the teachings into a strong message to know we are masters. The information was delivered through the emotional system, everyone of the speakers used humor, mostly personal experiences, as the delivery system. We have the words and lessons, it's the emotional field - HEART - being addressed now. This was all by "coincidence". The speakers didn't all get together and say, let's make 'em laugh!
Don Miguel Ruiz almost didn't come to the conference but in the end he was very glad he did. Here's a photo of don Miguel, a living, breathing heart chakra:
Sounds like it was a lot of fun. Yes, laughter can break down the fear barrier quickly. Do you have any personal breakthroughs you would like to share from the event?
Thanks for the laughing guru and breaking up stagnant energy that makes us go FROM "damn, life's a bitch" TO "shift, life's a birth".
Breakthroughs? Hmmm..... let me count the ways. First was the ongoing support to walk in my own shoes instead of someone else's and found how easy it is to connect with "strangers" as friends, long time friends. This was the first year I was able to go solo cause in the past I was with someone. Connecting was big for me.
I realized how we keep looking outside for phenomena like ufos, etc for evidence when in fact WE ARE the portal, the vortex, that is changing our reality. So I see myself as a walking, breathing heart portal working like a clock and transforming psychological programming and observing resulting external shifts.
And MASTERY! as Michael Mirdad is famous for saying. That it's tricky walking between the old world and the new, but Mastery makes it so!
Just how powerful our changeless work is in spite of ego's personal interferences, and to continue no matter what.
Practice Practice Practice being light.
That's for starters, I got so much and it keeps unfolding.
Thanks for asking Nrg. Try to come next year, it's an amazing weekend for people ready to SHIFT.
Thanks so much for the update and your amazing transformation. Seems like you are shifting with ease. I am shifting in my pants! lol
Thanks again, if I'm in the neighborhood next year count on it.
Nrg
Quoting: Nrg 498050
Shifting with ease! please. I'm going kicking and screaming. It's funny though. Mirdad said we've been wanting this forever and now that we have it, the shift, we're saying, noooooooooo! give it back. Truly.
Some days are more enlightened than others, in my mind. They are all enlightened days in reality.
It's just that going to ULC and other like minded places refreshes and restores and makes the journey easier and friendlier.
That's $90,000. Not to mention what they're making on all the booths and vendors.
THINK ABOUT IT. If they CARED, they'd be charging people $50 and still make a minimum of $15,000 if 300 went but probably more as more people would be able to afford to go.
Disgusting. I'll bet they aren't using that $90,000 to feed the poor.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 659821
It just goes to show what phony hypocrites "Lightworkers" are.
It's no different than Christian churches that take the money of their followers.
They both preach "spirituality" and the "power of God" or "the Creator" but they still rely 100% on the material world, the real world to preach their illusions.
Both make so many promises but never deliver.
As long as they have sheep willing to shell out cash, they will always have followers.
Thanks so much for the update and your amazing transformation. Seems like you are shifting with ease. I am shifting in my pants! lol
Thanks again, if I'm in the neighborhood next year count on it.
Nrg
Shifting with ease! please. I'm going kicking and screaming. It's funny though. Mirdad said we've been wanting this forever and now that we have it, the shift, we're saying, noooooooooo! give it back. Truly.
Some days are more enlightened than others, in my mind. They are all enlightened days in reality.
It's just that going to ULC and other like minded places refreshes and restores and makes the journey easier and friendlier.
That's $90,000. Not to mention what they're making on all the booths and vendors.
THINK ABOUT IT. If they CARED, they'd be charging people $50 and still make a minimum of $15,000 if 300 went but probably more as more people would be able to afford to go.
Disgusting. I'll bet they aren't using that $90,000 to feed the poor.
It just goes to show what phony hypocrites "Lightworkers" are.
It's no different than Christian churches that take the money of their followers.
They both preach "spirituality" and the "power of God" or "the Creator" but they still rely 100% on the material world, the real world to preach their illusions.
Both make so many promises but never deliver.
As long as they have sheep willing to shell out cash, they will always have followers.
Quoting: The G man
SpydrGrail chooses not to bite this bait. Sorry. Carry on crying your sad story.
SpydrGrail chooses not to bite this bait. Sorry. Carry on crying your sad story.
Quoting: SpydrGrl 706786
You're afraid of the truth.
My older brother is one of these new agers and considers himself a Lightworker.
He's one of the most selfish bastards in the world.
He talks about all this love and light stuff but he's the most stingy self centered person who has never done a thing for his friends or family, even when they were in need.
When his own mother became ill, he told us to fuck off and didn't want anything to do with the situation.
He said his "needs" come first.
He learned that crap from some new age cult "therapists".
He's not the only one I know like that either.
IMO, most of you people use this new age thing as an excuse to run away from yourselves.
Like that one poster said, all that money to attend that conference is ridiculous.
Either start practicing what you preach or don't preach at all.
SpydrGrail chooses not to bite this bait. Sorry. Carry on crying your sad story.
You're afraid of the truth.
My older brother is one of these new agers and considers himself a Lightworker.
He's one of the most selfish bastards in the world.
He talks about all this love and light stuff but he's the most stingy self centered person who has never done a thing for his friends or family, even when they were in need.
When his own mother became ill, he told us to fuck off and didn't want anything to do with the situation.
He said his "needs" come first.
He learned that crap from some new age cult "therapists".
He's not the only one I know like that either.
IMO, most of you people use this new age thing as an excuse to run away from yourselves.
Like that one poster said, all that money to attend that conference is ridiculous.
Either start practicing what you preach or don't preach at all.
Quoting: The G man
Your older brother is escaping using new age rhetoric as his excuse. He is not a Lightworker, but he is a lite worker meaning he does lite or very little work. A lot of people misuse the new age ways to escape being responsible, which is the exact opposite of what our core belief is - to be able to respond in a Light-filled way, meaning in a Loving way. To respond to life reflecting back to us. Eventually, only Love is reflected back. This is enlightenment.
And we're not here to preach but to help each other find their way to a purposeful life, not a selfish life. Some people get confused and think they don't need to be engaged in life because it's an "illusion". Totally wrong way of thinking. The only way we can change the "illusion" is by being totally engaged in life in the Love-filled way, meaning uplifting and enlightening. We know that the more we do this, the greater the Light affects collective consciousness.
Anyone who is "doing the right thing" is a Lightworker. You may be one and not know it. hehe.
Money trips a lot of people up. No surprise given our culture, or non-culture.
One cannot put a value on the enrichment found at this conference. Some people actually make it an annual retreat to restore and refresh, it is that productive.
Your older brother is escaping using new age rhetoric as his excuse. He is not a Lightworker, but he is a lite worker meaning he does lite or very little work. A lot of people misuse the new age ways to escape being responsible, which is the exact opposite of what our core belief is - to be able to respond in a Light-filled way, meaning in a Loving way. To respond to life reflecting back to us. Eventually, only Love is reflected back. This is enlightenment.
And we're not here to preach but to help each other find their way to a purposeful life, not a selfish life. Some people get confused and think they don't need to be engaged in life because it's an "illusion". Totally wrong way of thinking. The only way we can change the "illusion" is by being totally engaged in life in the Love-filled way, meaning uplifting and enlightening. We know that the more we do this, the greater the Light affects collective consciousness.
Anyone who is "doing the right thing" is a Lightworker. You may be one and not know it. hehe.
Quoting: SpydrGrl 706786
You make some interesting points, SpydrGrl, and I'm sorry if I come across harsh but I have a lot of resentment for the selfish and hurtful things my brother has done and he has the gall to call himself spiritual and talk about love.
While I don't agree there's some higher consciousness unless there's some absolute sincere proof, I do believe what you say in that doing good for others in a selfless way will eventually result in positive "energy" (for lack of a better more accurate word) in the world if more and more people are like that.
I just see a contradiction in charging people so much to attend a conference, though.
Your older brother is escaping using new age rhetoric as his excuse. He is not a Lightworker, but he is a lite worker meaning he does lite or very little work. A lot of people misuse the new age ways to escape being responsible, which is the exact opposite of what our core belief is - to be able to respond in a Light-filled way, meaning in a Loving way. To respond to life reflecting back to us. Eventually, only Love is reflected back. This is enlightenment.
And we're not here to preach but to help each other find their way to a purposeful life, not a selfish life. Some people get confused and think they don't need to be engaged in life because it's an "illusion". Totally wrong way of thinking. The only way we can change the "illusion" is by being totally engaged in life in the Love-filled way, meaning uplifting and enlightening. We know that the more we do this, the greater the Light affects collective consciousness.
Anyone who is "doing the right thing" is a Lightworker. You may be one and not know it. hehe.
You make some interesting points, SpydrGrl, and I'm sorry if I come across harsh but I have a lot of resentment for the selfish and hurtful things my brother has done and he has the gall to call himself spiritual and talk about love.
While I don't agree there's some higher consciousness unless there's some absolute sincere proof, I do believe what you say in that doing good for others in a selfless way will eventually result in positive "energy" (for lack of a better more accurate word) in the world if more and more people are like that.
I just see a contradiction in charging people so much to attend a conference, though.
Quoting: The G man
I have a very pushy sister-in-law that drives me nuts, a huge challenge in maintaining a neutral let alone loving attitude towards her. Luckily she lives in another state and I don't see her very often. I know I'm being reactionary instead of responsible in my feelings towards her, but hey, it's a start. On my good days I send her (me) loving energy (me because it's my attitude towards her that needs changing, not her). It's tricky because we put judgements on how other people behave because they affect us in a negative way, resentment, annoyance, etc. when in fact we're the ones being negatively charged with these attitudes. Resentment hurts the one feeling it not the one who is being resented. Mind shift.
I feel the higher intelligence, higher consciousness, every day now that I've lived long enough to see the opposite at work in the world, and in me. I know there is a higher Power working through us, and in fact that Power is us, humans, at our best. This is what we tap into to guide and protect us, it is this Energy that is at service through us. If you think about it I bet you can remember a time when something came to your rescue or something happened that you couldn't reason away. I'm convinced we have a lot of help in getting us through this mine (mind) field we call planet Earth.
Look, it costs money to put a conference together not to mention a lot of hard work. I know for a fact that most if not all of the revenue generated at a ULC goes towards the next one. Someone else mentioned that the price of this conference and what one gets from it is totally reasonable by comparison. If the ULC were to cease, which I pray it doesn't, it would leave a huge hole in the fabric of consciousness shifts and joyful feelings. Have you ever done something you didn't want to do originally (for whatever reason) and came out feeling like it was sooooooooo gooooooood? That's ULC. I'm not shilling for ULC, I'm turning people on to it because it's real and it works.
I hope I've helped you see deeper into the heart of a lightworker and see that there is not so much of a difference between us. And I hope you get a chance to see or hear something really funny today that makes you bust up.
Sure, we could all just wait for the free seminars, workshops, sweatlodges, gatherings, or travel to India and recieve free deeksha from an avatar. Sometime in the future it will be this way. But not quite yet. There are costs as SpydrGrl mentioned to provide travel and expenses.
I used to shun any spiritual endeavor that required money to obtain, and for the most part still do. But truth is everywhere we look, and for me I am keeping an open eye without judgement lest I pass up another opportunity to find the truth.
------------------------------------------------------------------ "There's a seeker born every minute" ~ Nrg
Sure, we could all just wait for the free seminars, workshops, sweatlodges, gatherings, or travel to India and recieve free deeksha from an avatar. Sometime in the future it will be this way. But not quite yet. There are costs as SpydrGrl mentioned to provide travel and expenses.
I used to shun any spiritual endeavor that required money to obtain, and for the most part still do. But truth is everywhere we look, and for me I am keeping an open eye without judgement lest I pass up another opportunity to find the truth.
------------------------------------------------------------------ "There's a seeker born every minute" ~ Nrg
Quoting: Nrg 498050
So true. And don't forget our money energizes what we spend it on. I love supporting the spiritual community: my yoga teacher, spiritual newsletters, workshops, ULC and tithing. Heck, I've supported GLP in the past with the money I receive. Money is to be put into circulation or it wont come back to you. It's meant to flow, just like consciousness.
And to get these speakers all in one weekend, one after the other validating and supporting our spiritual path is truly beyond measure.
Drop me a line, Nrg. Perhaps I have some free newsletters to share with you that you don't already have.
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