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So much for those Apollo moon landing believers screaming, "Just wait till all those photos returned by other nations moon craft prove that NASA landed men on the moon".

They'll continue believing in the moon landing fairy tale, and create their own conspiracies as to why we're not seeing pictures of the moon landings (like the Japanese aren't showing us the pictures 'cause of WWII).
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very compelling evidence that it was a hoax.


right, evidence that you haven't seen yet.
let's all use our brains here, people.


The original link at pravda shows the picture the lunar orbiter took of the site.
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yes, i saw that.
however you can tell that the picture displays a sizable part of the moon, based on the fact that you can see the curvature of the moon in the photo. it's definitely not close enough to even begin to resolve the landing site, or any details about the landing site.

anyone who watched that video would realize this, unless you think the moon is tiny.
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You guys are delusional. How do you make it through damn day competently.


This was left behind.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

This is how we know the moon travels one inch away from the earth yearly. Damn this was remedial science 20 years ago.
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Well Nasa has the coordinates for their lazer mirrors. They use them each year.

And a satellite traveling at 25000 MPH around the moon is not going to get every detail.
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Ive never doubted the moon landing and still cant say that I do but if you think about the technology they had then going to the moon and getting back safely was a slim to nothing chance.
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You guys are delusional. How do you make it through damn day competently.


This was left behind.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

This is how we know the moon travels one inch away from the earth yearly. Damn this was remedial science 20 years ago.
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clappa

Thank God for rational thought.

Hey, Apollotards. Explain this.
"I wish I could kick you all in the balls"
Entropy talking to moon hoax freaks.
Best. Post. Ever.
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Well Nasa has the coordinates for their lazer mirrors. They use them each year.

And a satellite traveling at 25000 MPH around the moon is not going to get every detail.
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Despite the fact that its mission is all about detail.

Yeah...I see how it could miss moon buggies easy.

Well, that solves that!
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Well Nasa has the coordinates for their lazer mirrors. They use them each year.

And a satellite traveling at 25000 MPH around the moon is not going to get every detail.



Despite the fact that its mission is all about detail.

Yeah...I see how it could miss moon buggies easy.

Well, that solves that!
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i don't think you realize just how small the lunar rovers are compared to the moon.
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.
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I wonder what excuse the US will use, aliens stole the flag? 1rof1

No. Never.

The excuses are always "science"-based, yet still insult your intelligence (or not, if you're a true believer).
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Anything can be explained away with science to explain the supposed Apollo moon landings. To make it all sound plausible.

Mostly because no one can prove or disprove the science that NASA and their blind supporters constantly preach as proving the supposed moon landings.

Everything about the 'science' in actual practice, is said to be proven in the 'fact' that NASA made it to the moon through the Apollo missions. However this science that NASA and their blind followers preach has not been proven to be true by any other organization or nation outside of NASA.

I can pull science out of my ass all day long about how it is possible to do this, and do that about getting men to the moon or landing men on the moon, or men surviving on the moon. In the end it is all meaningless if no one can follow up the nonsensical science that NASA and their blind followers spout as gospel proving that NASA landed men on the moon.
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Well Nasa has the coordinates for their lazer mirrors. They use them each year.

And a satellite traveling at 25000 MPH around the moon is not going to get every detail.
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Ha, the old laser mirror... Frankly the entire moon is a 'laser mirror', but hey you wont believe me. Just ask yourself does it create it's own light or just reflect sunlight? Reflect you say? Hmm... like a mirror? Hmm....

But hey, maybe it is just a mirror on the surface...

Oh one last thing... ever wonder why the moon is a 'satellite' and why they call satellites such and oh, what do they do with satellites again?

But yeah, Armstrong left his compact on the ground face up and little green men have been windexing it for the last 30 years... whatever
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So much for those Apollo moon landing believers screaming, "Just wait till all those photos returned by other nations moon craft prove that NASA landed men on the moon".

They'll continue believing in the moon landing fairy tale, and create their own conspiracies as to why we're not seeing pictures of the moon landings (like the Japanese aren't showing us the pictures 'cause of WWII).
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Pathetic isn't it.
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.
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two shopping carts??? try a VW beetle
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Wha? The Gov't LIED? Say it ain't so!

Now, where did the billions of dollars go to finance this fake moon landing?
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To build Vegas chuckle
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You guys are delusional. How do you make it through damn day competently.


This was left behind.

[link to science.nasa.gov]

This is how we know the moon travels one inch away from the earth yearly. Damn this was remedial science 20 years ago.


clappa

Thank God for rational thought.

Hey, Apollotards. Explain this.
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Uh........... unmanned mission to the moon?

Really. This is too easy.
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.


two shopping carts??? try a VW beetle
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so what...three shopping carts?

still not big enough to be resolved in a picture taken from that height.
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.
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Of course the mission isn't about finding moon buggies. The mission was to take detailed pictures of every square inch of the moon. A little logic would tell us that some moon buggies and American flags might get in the way. And, hey, wouldn't it be cool for the Japanese to show the world what the Apollo landing sites look like after all these years? Sure would be cool (unless they're still mad about WWII, or something).

So, the Hubble can't see the moon landing sites in detail, and the Japanese either didn't photograph them in detail, or just don't care to share them with their buddy the USA. Always an excuse when it comes to evidence of the moon landings.

But, there's some dust there. I think that's good enough.
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.
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Your missing what the article is actually saying, their is 'No' evidence whatsoever of the Apollo missions. What they are saying is that there are 'No' tracks of any moon buggys traversing in the areas where they should be showing in the photos. Nothing, zero, Nada.
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For thirty five years universities have been using the reflective mirrors, placed by a us astronaut on the moon via space fucking travel.
Read and weep tards.

University of Maryland physics professor Carroll Alley was the project's principal investigator during the Apollo years, and he follows its progress today. "Using these mirrors," explains Alley, "we can 'ping' the moon with laser pulses and measure the Earth-moon distance very precisely. This is a wonderful way to learn about the moon's orbit and to test theories of gravity."

Here's how it works: A laser pulse shoots out of a telescope on Earth, crosses the Earth-moon divide, and hits the array. Because the mirrors are "corner-cube reflectors," they send the pulse straight back where it came from. "It's like hitting a ball into the corner of a squash court," explains Alley. Back on Earth, telescopes intercept the returning pulse--"usually just a single photon," he marvels.


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The round-trip travel time pinpoints the moon's distance with staggering precision: better than a few centimeters out of 385,000 km, typically.

Targeting the mirrors and catching their faint reflections is a challenge, but astronomers have been doing it for 35 years. A key observing site is the McDonald Observatory in Texas where a 0.7 meter telescope regularly pings reflectors in the Sea of Tranquility (Apollo 11), at Fra Mauro (Apollo 14) and Hadley Rille (Apollo 15), and, sometimes, in the Sea of Serenity. There's a set of mirrors there onboard the parked Soviet Lunokhud 2 moon rover--maybe the coolest-looking robot ever built.
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Carroll alley for thirty five years.

The moon is not a mirror, it can become illuminated.

We are on the moon, accept it. We are on mars via robot.

And why does the moon mirror not need a cleaning? No atmosphere. JEEEAZ..use your damn head.
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"For thirty five years universities have been using the reflective mirrors, placed by a us astronaut on the moon via space fucking travel.
Read and weep tards. "

I guess that means an astronaut put the rover on Mars, then.
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Oh, who cares! The Apollo missions brought the country together, at a time when Vietnam commies and Woodstock hippies, were tearing America apart!
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yea lies, manipulation and deception works all the time for this country
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.


two shopping carts??? try a VW beetle


so what...three shopping carts?

still not big enough to be resolved in a picture taken from that height.
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I guess you've never seen Google earth?
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For thirty five years universities have been using the reflective mirrors, placed by a us astronaut on the moon via space fucking travel.
Read and weep tards.

University of Maryland physics professor Carroll Alley was the project's principal investigator during the Apollo years, and he follows its progress today. "Using these mirrors," explains Alley, "we can 'ping' the moon with laser pulses and measure the Earth-moon distance very precisely. This is a wonderful way to learn about the moon's orbit and to test theories of gravity."

Here's how it works: A laser pulse shoots out of a telescope on Earth, crosses the Earth-moon divide, and hits the array. Because the mirrors are "corner-cube reflectors," they send the pulse straight back where it came from. "It's like hitting a ball into the corner of a squash court," explains Alley. Back on Earth, telescopes intercept the returning pulse--"usually just a single photon," he marvels.


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The round-trip travel time pinpoints the moon's distance with staggering precision: better than a few centimeters out of 385,000 km, typically.

Targeting the mirrors and catching their faint reflections is a challenge, but astronomers have been doing it for 35 years. A key observing site is the McDonald Observatory in Texas where a 0.7 meter telescope regularly pings reflectors in the Sea of Tranquility (Apollo 11), at Fra Mauro (Apollo 14) and Hadley Rille (Apollo 15), and, sometimes, in the Sea of Serenity. There's a set of mirrors there onboard the parked Soviet Lunokhud 2 moon rover--maybe the coolest-looking robot ever built.
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So, what you're saying is that if somebody says there are mirrors left there, that's enough "proof"? So, no need to go looking for crazy stuff like moon buggies and American flags and whatever else got left behind. Somebody says there are mirrors there. That's all the "proof" anybody needs?

Funny how people will try to "prove" something in a back-door fashion like this, yet tell you that the big shit (moon buggies and such) isn't evidence at all.
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Oh, by the way, thanks for banning me the other night, for no reason* whatsoever.


*(no reason meaning that you were on the losing end of the argument)
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Yep. Ha[[ems to me all the time too. And TPTB have the audacity to ask for money ??????

I've been banned and had no fucking idea what I was banned for.

If it wasn't for the first class comedy, I wouldn't come her at all.
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Oh, who cares! The Apollo missions brought the country together, at a time when Vietnam commies and Woodstock hippies, were tearing America apart!
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Maybe we should send our prez to the moon so he can bring the country together. Maybe if he stays there this country will stay together. Sounds like a plan to me.
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.


two shopping carts??? try a VW beetle


so what...three shopping carts?

still not big enough to be resolved in a picture taken from that height.


I guess you've never seen Google earth?
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i'll remind you again that you can see the curvature of the moon in that picture. if you zoom out enough in google earth so that you can see the curvature of the earth, do you really think you'll be able to make out any cars?
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Was the mission to look for a damn moon buggy? It's what silver, grey and not much bigger than two shopping carts. Yes they can miss a whole hell of a lot of stuff.

Hey yoshimoto, lets spend billions looking for a buggy. Or do you think it was a quest for science.

Open your damn eyes.


Of course the mission isn't about finding moon buggies. The mission was to take detailed pictures of every square inch of the moon. A little logic would tell us that some moon buggies and American flags might get in the way. And, hey, wouldn't it be cool for the Japanese to show the world what the Apollo landing sites look like after all these years? Sure would be cool (unless they're still mad about WWII, or something).

So, the Hubble can't see the moon landing sites in detail, and the Japanese either didn't photograph them in detail, or just don't care to share them with their buddy the USA. Always an excuse when it comes to evidence of the moon landings.

But, there's some dust there. I think that's good enough.
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actually the mission was not to "take detailed pictures of every square inch of the moon," it was as follows:

The major objectives of the "KAGUYA" mission are to obtain scientific data of the lunar origin and evolution and to develop the technology for the future lunar exploration. "KAGUYA" consists of a main orbiting satellite at about 100km altitude and two small satellites (Relay Satellite and VRAD Satellite) in polar orbit. The orbiters will carry instruments for scientific investigation of the Moon, on the Moon, and from the Moon.
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i'll remind you again that you can see the curvature of the moon in that picture. if you zoom out enough in google earth so that you can see the curvature of the earth, do you really think you'll be able to make out any cars?
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Horrible, horrible, horrible.

To see the curvature of the earth you'd have to be much further away from the surface because the earth is much bigger.
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i'll remind you again that you can see the curvature of the moon in that picture. if you zoom out enough in google earth so that you can see the curvature of the earth, do you really think you'll be able to make out any cars?

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

To see the curvature of the earth you'd have to be much further away from the surface because the earth is much bigger.
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technically speaking you're correct, but the same principle still stands. the moon is far, far larger than the landing site, the details of which are probably contained in a single pixel of that picture.

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