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BREAKING (I guess) Japanese Orbiter Finds No Evidence Apollo Missions Landed On Moon...Oops!

 
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The solar and Van Allen belt radiation was too great a risk for a manned mission. They discovered this when they sent up animals on the earlier flights.


Funny how Dr James Van Allen himself didn't think so.
 Quoting: DrPostman


NASA probably put pressure on him to recant his earlier position. He didn't have to risk his life to prove his point either.

The very real risk of solar flares while on the moon was completely out of NASA's control and impossible for them to predict.

The astronauts would have had no more than 3 seconds warning of a lethal solar flare while they were on the moon. Do you really think NASA was willing to take that kind of chance multiple times? It would have been a PR nightmare for the US.
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You think movies are real life, don't you?

Yes. Of course. James Brolin, Sam Waterston and OJ Simpson were astronauts and did a fake Mars mission. Everybody knows that.
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DrP...The vid is at the bottom

[link to www.sonicbomb.com]


That was an important disaster in their history, but it wasn't
their moon rocket. The N1 was much, much bigger:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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oops .Hey at least they were consistent :P
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Filming flags, from a topical view a flag would be horizontal to the ground and less than an 1/8 inch thick in no atmosphere.
It would be virtually invisible. You lose I win.

We landed on the moon, you failed to show any proof. Any. Bow your head in shame.
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You want proof? You can't handle the proof.

What more proof could you possibly want, than to see Apollo 11 in low earth orbit, faking pictures, when they were supposed to be half way to the frickin moon?

lol There are none so blind as those who will not believe what they are seeing.

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Bullshit, if that was so, then how come NASA and its small minded minions continually offer this photo of the supposed Apollo 15 landing site as evidence.

Photo of supposed Apollo 15 landing site.
[link to www.space.com]

"Arrow A points to a diffuse dark spot exactly at the locale of the lunar module, Falcon, believed created by the craft's engine blast."

Now if NASA and other investigators are claiming Arrow A is pointing to the blast crater of the Falcon, then according to the resolution size of this photo that is being imaged; The Lunar rover tracks should be showing in the photo, however they are not, no trace of any rover tracks can be seen.
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Try this, and let's compare:
[link to www.jaxa.jp]
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Capricorn One?

This thread has been derailed by that shitbox of a movie?

Christ. Focus, tards.
"I wish I could kick you all in the balls"
Entropy talking to moon hoax freaks.
Best. Post. Ever.
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Supposedly, the Japanese mapped every square inch of the moon recently.

You'd think that if they took pictures of all that cool moon landing stuff, they'd share it with us.

So, either they've got lots and lots of great pictures of moon buggies, American flags and various what-not, and they're not sharing them with us. Or, there's no evidence that we were there in the capacity we claimed to be from '69 to '72.
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Maybe, they'll show us much better pictures than NASA ever did.
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Capricorn One?

This thread has been derailed by that sh!tbox of a movie?

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Don't forget the scene from Diamonds Are Forever in which Bond walks through a staged moon landing set.
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shills everywhere on this thread, lol
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Sooner or later the truth is going to come out because this high resolution lunar orbiter has mapped the entire surface of the moon. Now that the data exists, it will be easy enough to have a version of google moon.
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Capricorn One?

This thread has been derailed by that shitbox of a movie?

Christ. Focus, tards.
 Quoting: Kenticus

You said it, isn't it strange how Dr Postman writes in the same style as nomuse (NLI) more and more. Are they one and the same, that would explain a lot.
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america, the greatest scam artists ever.
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Which fraudulent claims by the US opens up the debate as to who owns the Moon, Russia or Japan.
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Funny how Dr James Van Allen himself didn't think so.


NASA probably put pressure on him to recant his earlier position. He didn't have to risk his life to prove his point either.


You can't accept the possibility that you might be wrong. The
man has been quoted as saying:
The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and
entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation
exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to
the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense."
-- Dr. James Van Allen

Where is the slightest proof that anyone "put pressure on him"?

 Quoting: DrPostman


Uh, the fact that he changed his previous opinion based on NASA-provided "evidence" of the Van Allen belt radiation levels.

The fact is that the space shuttle astronauts got to feel just a taste of that radiation when the shuttle ventured a bit too close to the inside of the belt. They were seeing stars with their eyes closed. How come none of the astro-nots made even a mention of those effects while they traveled through the belts?

I also like the way you ignored the solar flare issue. Show me where those facts are incorrect about the risk of a solar flare. Their suits and capsule were not equipped to provide any significant protection against such radiation while on the moon. Yet NASA had no problem risking their lives over and over again? Yeah right.
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So, if 'every inch of the moon was photographed' is there evidence of alien bases or 'the shard' or 'castle' photographed earlier? I'm curious to see what is at those coordinates.
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What a bullshit film, no proof, just speculation with an English accent which of course makes everything true!!
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america, the greatest scam artists ever.
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Even better than Hitler and Nazi Germany, hold on, wasn't it Nazi's from Germany that the US government brought over after the war that started and ran NASA.

NASA-Nazi, NASA-Nazi, there are similarities there
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What a bullshit film, no proof, just speculation with an English accent which of course makes everything true!!
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Well at least you watched it, good for you, I've got to be honest, some of the bits they have it that movie are a bit stretch and unclear.
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Well with the recently made improvements to Hubble(I believe they advertized a 90x magnification increase), why not write NASA and ask them one more time to look at the lunar landing sites...it has always bothered me that there was alot of shiny aluminum insulation on the equipment and you should especially see light reflected from it from at least the darker crater where they supposedly landed...by the way, did they find the oblisek...???

:2001 obl:

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america, the greatest scam artists ever.

Even better than Hitler and Nazi Germany, hold on, wasn't it Nazi's from Germany that the US government brought over after the war that started and ran NASA.

NASA-Nazi, NASA-Nazi, there are similarities there
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blink
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Sooner or later the truth is going to come out because this high resolution lunar orbiter has mapped the entire surface of the moon. Now that the data exists, it will be easy enough to have a version of google moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688710


Yes but you forget how the Japanese do not want to make waves, so the resolution of the camera was just below that which would be necessary to see any equipment.

Why would you go to the moon, with a camera that did not have sufficient resolution, to see any evidence on the ground of the Apollo landers?

Its typical of the conspiracies that run rampant on good old terra firma. And soon America will launch a probe, and mock up the site with flags and there ya go.
Except that some people will know.
People who man the new space telescopes will know.

Surely they can resolve images on the moon. But maybe not.

Maybe lies as big as this have their origin above man.

And like ants, man cannot rise above it enough to disprove it.
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The very real risk of solar flares while on the moon was completely out of NASA's control and impossible for them to predict.

The astronauts would have had no more than 3 seconds warning of a lethal solar flare while they were on the moon. Do you really think NASA was willing to take that kind of chance multiple times? It would have been a PR nightmare for the US.
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Yes, they were willing to take that risk. They weren't even sure if Apollo 11's ascent stage would ignite. Have you ever read Nixon's contingency speech?

[link to www.thesmokinggun.com]
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Japan’s Kaguya lunar orbiter took several pictures of the site, where Apollo 15 and Apollo 17 supposedly landed in 1971 and 1972. If the astronauts had ever landed there, they should have left a lot of equipment on the site, including the rovers, on which they traveled on the surface of the Earth’s satellite. The pictures, which the Japanese rover took, showed not even the slightest hint of the US presence on the Moon.


And where are those images?





Oh, by the way, thanks for banning me the other night, for no reason* whatsoever.
(no reason meaning that you were on the losing end of the argument)


I don't play that game. If I did I would have banned you
again, now wouldn't I. I've been banning almost all spam
and bigoted posts lately. Were you being a bigot or a spammer?





ROFL at the picture in that link... Seriously? That's all they've got? A thumbnail sized picture? That could have been someone's hairy butt in black and white magnified times 1000.


Then why do you think the Japanese probe saw anything better?





Funny how as much as twenty years ago, I remember NASA bragging that they have satellites in earth's orbit that can read a license plate.


No, NASA never claimed that.
 Quoting: DrPostman



Ok, so now you are saying some invisible mod who has no power here banned me, and not you?

Rich, I tell ya.
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The very real risk of solar flares while on the moon was completely out of NASA's control and impossible for them to predict.

The astronauts would have had no more than 3 seconds warning of a lethal solar flare while they were on the moon. Do you really think NASA was willing to take that kind of chance multiple times? It would have been a PR nightmare for the US.


Yes, they were willing to take that risk. They weren't even sure if Apollo 11's ascent stage would ignite. Have you ever read Nixon's contingency speech?

[link to www.thesmokinggun.com]
 Quoting: The Guy


The reality is that probably every mission would have been lethal.

People forget how much protection we have under a canopy of air and water vapor to cushion us from the hostile realities of outer space.

The risk of getting even a tiny puncture in the space capsule or space suit from a piece of debris flying through space increased the odds of a disaster even higher. While on the moon, they would have been sitting ducks against even the tiniest meteorite.
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Where are all the Lunar Rover Tracks for Apollo 15, 16, and 17 missions in any moon orbiting photos?


Too small to be seen from orbit.
 Quoting: The Guy


If the Hubble telescope can take detailed pictures of galaxies thousands of light years away. Why won't NASA take pictures of the moon landing sites? Wouldn't that prove once and for all their claims of landing on the moon?
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Keep your head in the sand and being filled from the bottom up with informatin manufactured, you seem happier that way. No matter the evidense handed over, pointed out that it was faked, you IKETITK (i know everything there is to know) people will never tear your alligence away from lies.


I think instead I will celebrate the march of progress being
made by commercial ventures and laugh my ass off when they
finally bring back artifacts from the Apollo missions.
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When they bring back artifacts? bwahahahh
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The very real risk of solar flares while on the moon was completely out of NASA's control and impossible for them to predict.

The astronauts would have had no more than 3 seconds warning of a lethal solar flare while they were on the moon. Do you really think NASA was willing to take that kind of chance multiple times? It would have been a PR nightmare for the US.


Yes, they were willing to take that risk. They weren't even sure if Apollo 11's ascent stage would ignite. Have you ever read Nixon's contingency speech?

[link to www.thesmokinggun.com]
 Quoting: The Guy

WoW!
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I believed it back when I was told by my government that it happened. I was young and never thought I'd be lied to and shown phony video/film footage to convince me and the rest of us that this fantastic adventure took place.

It's a different day now, isn't it? I wouldn't be surprised at anything that we've been lied to about, the government has about as much credibility as a typical poster on this forum, and that ain't much, let's face it.

We're going to have to take the Missouri approach from now on with everything, we'll believe it when we see it, but now we know , even that isn't good enough. It could be real or phony, but damn, somebody ought to be able to prove this stuff with modern technology. It's going to be interesting to see someone's face from the government when they get caught red-handed on some of the bullshit we've been told and they are forced to fess up. But, it won't look much different from Gibbs having to explain the crazy A.F.1 story or the like, what a bunch of saps we've become, get serious, you could tell the Average Idiot American anything and he/she would buy or wouldn't care enough to check it out, they'd just move on with their short attention span, and the lie would become history taught to a willing bunch of kids in the future who wouldn't question it. That's why I want to know, for real, did they go to the moon and land or not? We ought to be able to find this out and nail it down once and for all.

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Ham radio operators have been doing this forever. The moon itself reflects the signal.


Yes, for radio...not laser.

Idiot.
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Geez, sorry Master.
Retarded Grasshopper will try to do better next time.

This must be mister Gould.
Don't know who that is?
My mistake Mr. Aldrin.
Not him either?
Head of JPL? No? Oh.

So you're just another sad drive-by insulting douchebag hiding behind your keyboard?
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Wonder then how a laser rangefinder could possibly work?
Yeah, it must be that an average deer or tree (or your massive glowing brain) is SO MUCH MORE REFLECTIVE than that dull 'ole Moon.

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Shields For The Starship Enterprise: A Reality?
ScienceDaily (Apr. 19, 2007) — In the last year space agencies in the United States, Europe, China, Japan and India have announced their intention to resume human exploration of the Solar system, beginning with the Moon and perhaps ultimately moving on to Mars. But travel beyond the immediate vicinity of the Earth carries significant risks for astronauts, not the least of which is the exposure to sometimes high levels of radiation.

Cosmic rays and radiation from the Sun itself can cause acute radiation sickness in astronauts and even death. Between 1968 and 1973, the Apollo astronauts going to the moon were only in space for about 10 days at a time and were simply lucky not to have been in space during a major eruption on the sun that would have flooded their spacecraft with deadly radiation. In retrospect Neil Armstrong’s ‘one small step for Man’ would have looked very different if it had.

On the International Space Station there is a special thick-walled room to which the astronauts have had to retreat during times of increased solar radiation. However on longer missions the astronauts cannot live within shielded rooms, since such shielding would add significantly to the mass of the spacecraft, making them much more expensive and difficult to launch. It is also now known that the ‘drip-drip’ of even lower levels of radiation can be as dangerous as acute bursts from the sun.

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