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Anonymous Coward User ID: 571008 United States 05/31/2009 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Shining has an even deeper meaning ... in fact, at least 3 different perceptions are available from Stanley in that movie via metaphors and analogies...... One is all the characters shine ... meaning the house isn't haunted. |
Sleepless User ID: 691848 United Kingdom 05/31/2009 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im thinking about doing it , I don't have the movie but i have allways wanted to understand the movie more ...Is it out on Blu -Ray yet ? Can you tell me what the Monalith Represents ? I had to remove my Signature As it seems to have confused some people....It Don't take much for that round here .. |
Is45 User ID: 683901 United States 05/31/2009 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I first saw the movie, 2001, in Hollywood, California the summer of 1968, when I was visiting my brother who was finishing post-graduate work at Cal-Tech. I am a lot younger than my brother, so he had to explain the "man to superman" theme and symbolism. Since 1968... mankind has not evolved into superman, he was devolved back into apes. What a disappointment the big event of 2001 was 9-11. If only 9-11 had been a first shot in a war to usher in superman... but here it is eight years later and the degeneracy of man continues to go from bad to worse. ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 691851 United States 05/31/2009 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm still psyched that the iFC in New York will be screening it in a few weeks! --- for any other New Yorkers--- [link to www.ifccenter.com] Last Edited by LouisWinthorpeIII on 05/31/2009 04:40 PM "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 691851 United States 05/31/2009 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also there is this one too... [link to www.kubrick2001.com] "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
XLR8 User ID: 679933 United States 05/31/2009 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One man's theory of the monolith's meaning Last Edited by XLR8 on 05/31/2009 04:41 PM Czar: 1) An unelected person given substantial authority over a particular policy; 2) sometimes used to refer to monarchs of imperial Russia. ---------- “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.” - Thomas Jefferson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 571008 United States 05/31/2009 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I first saw the movie, 2001, in Hollywood, California Quoting: Is45the summer of 1968, when I was visiting my brother who was finishing post-graduate work at Cal-Tech. I am a lot younger than my brother, so he had to explain the "man to superman" theme and symbolism. Since 1968... mankind has not evolved into superman, he was devolved back into apes. What a disappointment the big event of 2001 was 9-11. If only 9-11 had been a first shot in a war to usher in superman... but here it is eight years later and the degeneracy of man continues to go from bad to worse. ~ That isn't true ... for every bad there is the good .. plenty of people are reaching their potential .. the rest will be left to do another cycle, and another .. and another |
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Is45 User ID: 683901 United States 05/31/2009 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I first saw the movie, 2001, in Hollywood, California Quoting: Anonymous Coward 571008the summer of 1968, when I was visiting my brother who was finishing post-graduate work at Cal-Tech. I am a lot younger than my brother, so he had to explain the "man to superman" theme and symbolism. Since 1968... mankind has not evolved into superman, he was devolved back into apes. What a disappointment the big event of 2001 was 9-11. If only 9-11 had been a first shot in a war to usher in superman... but here it is eight years later and the degeneracy of man continues to go from bad to worse. ~ That isn't true ... for every bad there is the good .. plenty of people are reaching their potential .. the rest will be left to do another cycle, and another .. and another Humanity has degenerated into the most vile, corrupted, perverted ignorant generation in the history of mankind. Over 40 years later, my brother is getting ready to retire from NASA. And want does NASA have to show for itself after over 40 years... a couple of aging space shuttles and tang. The man who wrote the famous 2001 music, Also sprach Zarathustra, his people should have won the war. If they had, their children would have become supermen and be colonizing Mars by now. ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 691851 United States 05/31/2009 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reading Clarke's book sheds some light on the subject too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 153788The lost worlds of 2001 is a great read... "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 691851 United States 05/31/2009 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Humanity has degenerated into the most vile, corrupted, Quoting: Is45perverted ignorant generation in the history of mankind. Over 40 years later, my brother is getting ready to retire from NASA. And want does NASA have to show for itself after over 40 years... a couple of aging space shuttles and tang. The man who wrote the famous 2001 music, Also sprach Zarathustra, his people should have won the war. If they had, their children would have become supermen and be colonizing Mars by now. ~ It's too bad that most of us would have to die to fulfill that vision of the future. But it's no surprise who was the brains behind the American & USSR's space programme. Its distressing to read books from over 100 years ago... "Society" has utterly collapsed. Sure they add words to the dictionary, but if they removed words that are not in frequent circulation it would probably sit around 2000. But who are we to blame, but ourselves. We have become prisoners to our own desire for pleasure/happiness. "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 364476 Canada 05/31/2009 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im thinking about doing it , I don't have the movie but i have allways wanted to understand the movie more ...Is it out on Blu -Ray yet ? Quoting: SleeplessCan you tell me what the Monalith Represents ? Previous Life in the galaxy... |
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LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 691851 United States 05/31/2009 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the commentary Weidner proves that the monolith is the same size as the movie screen. The monolith and the movie are the same! Quoting: ACC 691863So the monolith is 1 : 4 : 9 But 70mm film is (Cinemascope / Panavision) 2.20:1 or 2.35:1 so going at 4x 4:16:36 x:16:35.2 or x:16:37.6 So it's CLOSE, but not exact. Last Edited by LouisWinthorpeIII on 05/31/2009 05:27 PM "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 571008 United States 05/31/2009 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I first saw the movie, 2001, in Hollywood, California Quoting: Is45the summer of 1968, when I was visiting my brother who was finishing post-graduate work at Cal-Tech. I am a lot younger than my brother, so he had to explain the "man to superman" theme and symbolism. Since 1968... mankind has not evolved into superman, he was devolved back into apes. What a disappointment the big event of 2001 was 9-11. If only 9-11 had been a first shot in a war to usher in superman... but here it is eight years later and the degeneracy of man continues to go from bad to worse. ~ That isn't true ... for every bad there is the good .. plenty of people are reaching their potential .. the rest will be left to do another cycle, and another .. and another Humanity has degenerated into the most vile, corrupted, perverted ignorant generation in the history of mankind. Over 40 years later, my brother is getting ready to retire from NASA. And want does NASA have to show for itself after over 40 years... a couple of aging space shuttles and tang. The man who wrote the famous 2001 music, Also sprach Zarathustra, his people should have won the war. If they had, their children would have become supermen and be colonizing Mars by now. ~ You may feel you have ... But government agencies don't produce anything .. people do. |
Is45 User ID: 683901 United States 05/31/2009 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But it's no surprise who was the brains behind the American & USSR's space programme. Quoting: LouisWinthorpeIIIIts distressing to read books from over 100 years ago... "Society" has utterly collapsed. Sure they add words to the dictionary, but if they removed words that are not in frequent circulation it would probably sit around 2000. But who are we to blame, but ourselves. We have become prisoners to our own desire for pleasure/happiness. As my brother told me years ago... neither the US nor the USSR would have a space program without Nazi Germany. It amazes me to read books and poetry from decades and centuries ago. People then were much more versed in the classics than we are. In fact, I bet a lot of younger people reading this post will wonder to themselves: What are " the classics ?" ~ Last Edited by Is45 on 05/31/2009 05:33 PM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Me114 User ID: 596184 United States 05/31/2009 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im thinking about doing it , I don't have the movie but i have allways wanted to understand the movie more ...Is it out on Blu -Ray yet ? Quoting: SleeplessCan you tell me what the Monalith Represents ? its free on comcast on demand, and also 2010 :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 691851 United States 05/31/2009 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As my brother told me years ago... Quoting: DrPostmanneither the US nor the USSR would have a space program without Nazi Germany. And the Germans wouldn't have had a rocket program had it not been for Goddard and especially Tsiolkovskii before him. Well much like rocketry, jet engines, computers & war tactics, the Germans didn't invent them, but they certainly made them 'better' and moved them into the field of where they pretty much are today.... I find it interesting that so many other nations had the people, but they made nothing with it... I guess it's like Rome with the printing press... they could mint coins by the truckload, but movable type elluded them. "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |
The Commentator User ID: 587619 United States 05/31/2009 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As my brother told me years ago... Quoting: DrPostmanneither the US nor the USSR would have a space program without Nazi Germany. And the Germans wouldn't have had a rocket program had it not been for Goddard and especially Tsiolkovskii before him. There is not much evidence that Goddard was aware of Tsiolkosvii's work. The later wasn't even widely known in the Soviet Union until his work was rediscovered in the 1950s and the Soviet government held him up as proof the Soviet system was capable of producing leading edge work. Goddard developed the same basic equations as Tsiolkovskii quite independently. But your point that both Tsiolkovskii and Goddard formed the basis for later Nazi engineering is well made. non sufficit Orbis Being a zetatard means never having to make sense. "Nancy pays me to post on Her threads" Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill NO max/bridget EVER!!!!! NO luser EVER!!! NO clunker EVER!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 605000 Australia 05/31/2009 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LouisWinthorpeIII - Have we devolved? - society as a whole seems to have, but then again the composition of society is quite different to the society that was once great. The space program and most of the great scientific discoveries and most of the great musical and artistic genius's were from one particular tribe -- they showed the possibilities of what mankind could be. But mysterious forces have been hell bent on destroying that tribe, and it started about 100 years ago. That tribe, and all its knowledge and skill has ceased to exist and we are just coasting along on the momentum that they generated. The whole of the world will be back to sticks and stones barbarity, happily living like animals, never imagining that there was another way. |
Is45 User ID: 683901 United States 05/31/2009 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The space program and most of the great scientific discoveries and most of the great musical and artistic genius's were from one particular tribe -- they showed the possibilities of what mankind could be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605000But mysterious forces have been hell bent on destroying that tribe, and it started about 100 years ago. That tribe, and all its knowledge and skill has ceased to exist and we are just coasting along on the momentum that they generated. Excellent post. But for some, those forces are not so mysterious. ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Is45 User ID: 683901 United States 05/31/2009 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama Picks Black to Head NASA Thread: Obama Picks Black to Head NASA ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
LouisWinthorpeIII User ID: 691851 United States 05/31/2009 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LouisWinthorpeIII - Have we devolved? - society as a whole seems to have, but then again the composition of society is quite different to the society that was once great. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 605000The space program and most of the great scientific discoveries and most of the great musical and artistic genius's were from one particular tribe -- they showed the possibilities of what mankind could be. But mysterious forces have been hell bent on destroying that tribe, and it started about 100 years ago. That tribe, and all its knowledge and skill has ceased to exist and we are just coasting along on the momentum that they generated. The whole of the world will be back to sticks and stones barbarity, happily living like animals, never imagining that there was another way. Well this is what leads us into the fun filled world of eugenics. But you know the drill too many "wrong" people having too many kids. At the same point with such genetic diversity people are resistant to more and more things... Although everyone seems to perversely have their fingers crossed for some kind of mass die off. Frankly I blame the same "tribe" that has given us the kindergartens. They have fucked up learning, and created obedient workers. Un questioning slaves. Prussia may have thought they were creating the ultimate society, but they ultimately have destroyed civilization. "I don't know which was scarier...the speech...or the Congress cheering it. He evoked Lincoln. Whenever a President is going to get us into serious trouble...they always use Lincoln." -2010 |