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Anonymous Coward User ID: 684310 United States 06/02/2009 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do not allow clouds of doubt or dispair to color your words or alter your craft. Be a Clear Light that illuminates the past present and future of the cosmos. No man is alone. All created beings are embraced by the Eternal Parent. Godspeed in your journey, and God bless. |
Pyrate (OP) User ID: 693157 United States 06/02/2009 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to zimbabwe, if some of you think a system of total collpse is so great.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611if not, then shut you pieholes, cause all you do is sound like a bunch of psoiled 7 year oldsm that dont know shit about anything. MOVE TO ZIMBABWE NOW...WHILE YO USTILL GOT THE CHANE TO LIVE A LIFE OF FREEDOMS THAT A TOTAL COLLAPSED SYSTEM OFFER oh, and be sure to take along a nice steel pan, so you can dredge the polluted streams for 14 hrs a day, to find 9 grains of gold, and buy moldy bread... GO DO IT...STOP TALKING ABOUT IT...STOP ACTING LIKE YOU WANT SUCH A SYSTEM, BUT THEN DONT RELOCATE TO A PLACE WHERE SUCH A SYSTEM EXISTS. I LOVE this kinda shit. I'll bet this dweeb can't spell "Constitution" let alone tell ya what Art. I, Sec. 10 says. I have a better idea... YOU go to zimwackadackydo and leave the last vesitge of freedom to those of us willing to fight for it. Funny you bring up zim... ever here of the Weimar inflation? the tulip crisis? the roman empire paying their soldiers in salt? I thought not. you're dismissed. |
Pyrate (OP) User ID: 693157 United States 06/02/2009 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pyrate, words spoken in truth travel like waves of air through the fabric of time and find an enduring place in the hearts of men. Images shaped in freedom find countless reflections in the mirror of the universe and shine forever in the prism of eternity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 684310Do not allow clouds of doubt or dispair to color your words or alter your craft. Be a Clear Light that illuminates the past present and future of the cosmos. No man is alone. All created beings are embraced by the Eternal Parent. Godspeed in your journey, and God bless. I'll consider what you've said. Thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692485 Mexico 06/02/2009 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you even have a clue WHY we use "money"... what it is... the history of it.... what's happened to entire EMPIRES that have debased their "money"????? Quoting: Pyrate---do you know what money is supposed to be? Means of exchange, ease of portability, etc? Paper, GOLD it doesnt matter: it is based on a mutual trust that it has value. No trust=no value. POOF! Maybe you are talking about so called CREDIT, ie DEBT? That;s a whole other ball of wax... "The only thing more pernicious to liberty than a standing army is the issuance of paper money, and by this Constitution we have forbid them both"? --- The Constitution it is against the ISSUANCE of paper money? Wasnt it warning of those who CONTROL the issuance of money, re banksters, foreign govts? Try living by barter and see all the reasonsmoney was invented in the first place. --- say what? What. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Go to zimbabwe, if some of you think a system of total collpse is so great.. Quoting: Pyrateif not, then shut you pieholes, cause all you do is sound like a bunch of psoiled 7 year oldsm that dont know shit about anything. MOVE TO ZIMBABWE NOW...WHILE YO USTILL GOT THE CHANE TO LIVE A LIFE OF FREEDOMS THAT A TOTAL COLLAPSED SYSTEM OFFER oh, and be sure to take along a nice steel pan, so you can dredge the polluted streams for 14 hrs a day, to find 9 grains of gold, and buy moldy bread... GO DO IT...STOP TALKING ABOUT IT...STOP ACTING LIKE YOU WANT SUCH A SYSTEM, BUT THEN DONT RELOCATE TO A PLACE WHERE SUCH A SYSTEM EXISTS. I LOVE this kinda shit. I'll bet this dweeb can't spell "Constitution" let alone tell ya what Art. I, Sec. 10 says. I have a better idea... YOU go to zimwackadackydo and leave the last vesitge of freedom to those of us willing to fight for it. Funny you bring up zim... ever here of the Weimar inflation? the tulip crisis? the roman empire paying their soldiers in salt? I thought not. you're dismissed. wait a minute.. you ask me a series of questions..and then you answer those questions for me ? HAHAHAHA... your delusions really are a comedy act.. |
Heck User ID: 572646 United States 06/02/2009 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My hat is off to you good sir. You've been at this for far longer than I have. It was only last year that I woke up. I watched Freedom to Fascism, started doing some legal research... and then decided to do something about it. -Heck |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pyrate... zimbabwe has ALL THE THINGS YOU DESIRE.. collapse... gold and silver as a main form of currecnys freedom from things like certain taxes etc... SO WHATS THE PROBLEM, WHY ARENT YOU LIVING OUT YOUR FANTASIES THERE ? Such a place should be like a disney world to you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692317 United States 06/02/2009 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how the hordes of shills for the system come out on threads like this. People love the system so much they will protect the very thing that enslaves them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611Welcome to The Matrix.And they will kill to protect it. Please tell us , who on this thread, will " kill" to protect ? I'm talking about the movie.Have you not seen it "The Matrix"?I'm not saying anyone on this thread would do such a thing.But then again.... I personally understand what the OP is trying to convey. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pyrate... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611zimbabwe has ALL THE THINGS YOU DESIRE.. collapse... gold and silver as a main form of currecnys freedom from things like certain taxes etc... SO WHATS THE PROBLEM, WHY ARENT YOU LIVING OUT YOUR FANTASIES THERE ? Such a place should be like a disney world to you. why does it seem like the " collapse happy crew " wont consider my above post ? |
Pyrate (OP) User ID: 693157 United States 06/02/2009 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pyrate, Quoting: HeckMy hat is off to you good sir. You've been at this for far longer than I have. It was only last year that I woke up. I watched Freedom to Fascism, started doing some legal research... and then decided to do something about it. -Heck Mr. Russo is a man to be respected and remembered. He did a great service to the cause of freedom. His film should be required in all 1st grade classrooms. THERE IS NO LAW. He left us far too soon. Gambate (Japanese for "keep going") |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666254 Canada 06/02/2009 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you gonna also be able to do your own surgeries , dental care, build bridges , make penicillin/. antibiotics , etc ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611sorry partner..those lil worker bees, that you are slighting, provide you with many coneveninces and neccesities tha tyou NEED and cant provide all on your own. REALITy SUCKS..DOESNT IT ? there are alternatives for EVERYTHING, off hand here are some: dental care is not necessary for the most part, fluoride is a poison and the dentist's "clearning" can be replicated at home with baking soda, oil pulling, and just general common sense, I haven't been to a dentist or have used toothpate in years, my teeth are white and strong antibiotics... mother nature has many naturally occuring plant materials that are of this nature, garlic being one bridges are only necessary for auto land travel for economic slavery for ppl to get bakc and forth to work and the mall, in my opinion, most city works are a waste of time the only surgeon you need is a trauma surgeon, all other concerns can be remedied by reduction of stress and natural eating, this is not so much of an issue, can be worked around for the most part most ppl's jobs are redunant, if most of the human population were actually adding falue, instead of doing repetitive valueless tasks (like filling out paperwork etc.) then most of your concerns in your comment would NOT be a concern in the first place have to start somewhere. ALTERNATIVES are EVERYWHERE you just have to be open to the possiblitiyes and they will come. Liberation comes from people who are willing to think outside the box |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HEY,.,., and get this,... if you move to zimabawe...and you cut yourself on something sharp in the dirty streams and it gets infected , while looking for a few grains of gold to purchase stale bread for dinner, the chances are good you wont be able to find or purchase the neccessary antibiotics to save your life... WHAT A GREAT SYSTEM THIS SYSTEM OF COLLAPSE IS... MOVE TO ZIMBAABWE NOW..BEFORE TO MANY OTHER PEOPLE FIGURE OUT ALL THE BENEFITS OFFERED THERE.. ;lol... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666254 Canada 06/02/2009 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn straight, Pyrate. Fuck him. He should move, the stupid idiot socialist Quoting: PyrateAn attempt at the profound... "jurist"? Looks like you hit a negative trigger within the mind of The Jurist. This happens a lot with people when you challenge the mainstream belief system that so many have been indoctrinated into believing by the school/television system |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692485 Mexico 06/02/2009 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pyrate... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611zimbabwe has ALL THE THINGS YOU DESIRE.. collapse... gold and silver as a main form of currecnys freedom from things like certain taxes etc... SO WHATS THE PROBLEM, WHY ARENT YOU LIVING OUT YOUR FANTASIES THERE ? Such a place should be like a disney world to you. AC611, I agree alot with you. You are putting a good perspective on this discussion. But I havent read the OP say what many of the libertards, as you call them the mad max wannabes, have been saying. Before you two devolve into a shouting match I;d like to hear his side of the equation... For example: He asked me SAY WHAT? about what I think money is. I;d sure like to hear his take. He is a beleiver in hyperinflation and references times in history where that occured. But he hasnt responded to the thinking on deflation. He has generalized about govt workers, but hasnt responded to my posts about them contributing indirectly to wealth (not all but many). He also hasnt responded to my kudos of him not supporting the military. There is many things he is leaving unsaid, and MAYBE he is letting others speak for him... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are you gonna also be able to do your own surgeries , dental care, build bridges , make penicillin/. antibiotics , etc ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 666254sorry partner..those lil worker bees, that you are slighting, provide you with many coneveninces and neccesities tha tyou NEED and cant provide all on your own. REALITy SUCKS..DOESNT IT ? there are alternatives for EVERYTHING, off hand here are some: dental care is not necessary for the most part, fluoride is a poison and the dentist's "clearning" can be replicated at home with baking soda, oil pulling, and just general common sense, I haven't been to a dentist or have used toothpate in years, my teeth are white and strong antibiotics... mother nature has many naturally occuring plant materials that are of this nature, garlic being one bridges are only necessary for auto land travel for economic slavery for ppl to get bakc and forth to work and the mall, in my opinion, most city works are a waste of time the only surgeon you need is a trauma surgeon, all other concerns can be remedied by reduction of stress and natural eating, this is not so much of an issue, can be worked around for the most part most ppl's jobs are redunant, if most of the human population were actually adding falue, instead of doing repetitive valueless tasks (like filling out paperwork etc.) then most of your concerns in your comment would NOT be a concern in the first place have to start somewhere. ALTERNATIVES are EVERYWHERE you just have to be open to the possiblitiyes and they will come. Liberation comes from people who are willing to think outside the box let me bust your bubble... Im very famliar with alterntive medicines, antibiotics...but the simple truth of the matter is, colloidal silver, grapefruit extract, iodine therapys, etc....is not nearly as effective as saving lives or curing infections as good ole mass produced penicillins/ arithomyicins.. its nice to hear that you havent needed a dentist for so long..unfirtuantely, most people do need dentists...and a simple thing like a gum infection, left untreated CAN KILL YOU ... you people really better pull your heads out of your butts.. your mad max world of total collapse , or thinking a new currecny is gonna be run by elite who are " non corrupt" is pure fantasys. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my persepcitve the people crying the loudest for total collapse, may very well be the same ones crying the loudest when it occurs. if you want total collapse, and a monetary system based largely on gold/ silver / baertering...ZIMBABWE IS CALLING YOU.. why arent you getting a plane ticket TODAY ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Id say the OP, has been savy enough to learn terms like allodial title, or UCC forms, or homestead filing...etc.. BUT... there are many holes in his percpetions and claimed desires and when you point out those holes, hes also savy enough to overlook it . But...he seems like a good guy...glad he posted... |
Pyrate (OP) User ID: 693157 United States 06/02/2009 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What would the world be like if we all followed OP's example? Quoting: BOWMANA nice start would be freedom for all? Every man and woman produces something of value freely available in a free and open marketplace? No legal tender laws? The free market is the purest form of democracy. (You vote with the minutes/hours/days of your life, and the effort expended therein.) No bulletheaded pigs. No flags. No "royal" families. Just pondering the question. Probably won't sit well with those that have nothing to offer... no skills, no talent, no discernible value. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my persepcitve Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611the people crying the loudest for total collapse, may very well be the same ones crying the loudest when it occurs. if you want total collapse, and a monetary system based largely on gold/ silver / baertering...ZIMBABWE IS CALLING YOU.. why arent you getting a plane ticket TODAY ? im still waiting for just one of the " collapse critters" to answer my above post. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692611 United States 06/02/2009 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What would the world be like if we all followed OP's example? Quoting: PyrateA nice start would be freedom for all? Every man and woman produces something of value freely available in a free and open marketplace? No legal tender laws? The free market is the purest form of democracy. (You vote with the minutes/hours/days of your life, and the effort expended therein.) No bulletheaded pigs. No flags. No "royal" families. Just pondering the question. Probably won't sit well with those that have nothing to offer... no skills, no talent, no discernible value. and can you tell us, how in the fuk are 7 billion people gonna engage in your systems ? and, do you not underdtand. that even your fantasy sytemss, will have it share of corruptions , agednas and people who take advantage of it, by giving out less then they take in { even if it means in the form of manual labor] YOU ARE LIVING IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE.. YOUR SYSTEM MAY BE SOMEHWAT FUNCTIONAL FOR A FEW MILLION PEOPLE...but it is impossible for it to work, with billions of people.. dont you undertsand that ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692485 Mexico 06/02/2009 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My personal take is to de-consumerize and de-militarize society. And lower the impact people have on the environment, ie personally and as a society. It is unsustainable. The key words are as a society, together, which will mean a personal change. However, I dont want to devolve into a libertardian nightmare of fanatics shooting anyone who talks about community efforts... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666254 Canada 06/02/2009 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word slaves, can be a very vague label. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611I actually do not consider many people in the U.S, who have made correct financial decisions and life decisions , to be true slaves . To me, a true slave applys to situation like blacks faced by being bought and sold, and told how long to work, how hard to work, how much sleep they can get, etc. and the only real things they got in return was food water and shelter to keep them healthy enough, so they could get up again the next morning, and work. This is true slavery , in its most functionaly radical form. to address your post about slavery: every modern-day person has their birth certificate bought and sold on the global bond market = slave every modern-day person is told when to come and when to leave work = slave every modern-day person is told by a "boss" of some sort to work harder and longer = slave most modern-day persons who works do NOT get enough sleep = slave every modern-day person gets money which is a slave instrument to exchange almost in full for food and shelter = slave get up again the next morning? that sounds like a repetitive process of slavery sounds to me EXACTLY like slavery (the only difference to the olden-day blacks, is that they KNEW they were slaves, people today do not). Now you know. Hey..if you want to claim you are a slave, thats your right... ill tell ya what though.. move to zimbabawe for just 6 months...and then come back and tell us if its possible you had a few misconceptions about what being a slave really was. no thanks, I was born where I was born for a reason, I help myself, my community and humanity at large to become truly liberated and to live in joy, people in zimbabwe can do the same for their families and coummunties. |
The Jurist User ID: 692452 United States 06/02/2009 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here again,we see the O.P insinuate how others are purely slaves, and how he is totally free of such slavery . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692611Hey O.P , let me tell ya how you can really live out your fantasy of being totally free of the systems and taxations of a developed nation . Move to New Guinea , put a few bones thru your nose, and join a tribe in the rain forest. Fuck you. Damn straight, Pyrate. Fuck him. He should move, the stupid idiot socialist Excuse me,,,why should I move, when im not the one who is so unhappy , or feels like a slave ? It is people like OP and YOU that need to consider moving if you are so unhappy. Or maybe such sensical conclusions dont ring your bell ? I am unhappy? Are you an idiot? I have not filled out a government form in over 12 years. I am not a legal entity. You dumb commie bastards are the problem. Your heads are so far up your asses you cannot see light. :tj_hupa: _____ INCOME TAX —PLANK 2, MANIFESTO OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY 1848 “The standard of living of the average American has to decline, I don’t think you can escape that.” -Paul Volcker ~ 1979 "What luck for rulers that men do not think." -Adolf Hitler "Alas, my freedom suffers for I am surrounded by dumb people." -me The rich rules over the poor, And the borrower becomes the lender's slave. -Proverbs 22:7 ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Pyrate (OP) User ID: 693157 United States 06/02/2009 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC611, I agree alot with you. You are putting a good perspective on this discussion. But I havent read the OP say what many of the libertards, as you call them the mad max wannabes, have been saying. Before you two devolve into a shouting match I;d like to hear his side of the equation... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692485For example: He asked me SAY WHAT? about what I think money is. I;d sure like to hear his take. He is a beleiver in hyperinflation and references times in history where that occured. But he hasnt responded to the thinking on deflation. He has generalized about govt workers, but hasnt responded to my posts about them contributing indirectly to wealth (not all but many). He also hasnt responded to my kudos of him not supporting the military. There is many things he is leaving unsaid, and MAYBE he is letting others speak for him... ok... here you go. I do not "believe" in hyperinflation. It's a historical fact. Google the "continental" "weimar" and since so many others love this place... zimbabwe(sp?) Hey bro, can you loan me a trillion? Deflation? as in things get cheaper? we all live better? Imagine if cars were like computers. Bought my first in '87. Cost me 1200. No hard drive, a single floppy, and a dot matrix printer. A WHOPPING 7 ... yes SEVEN mhtz. clock speed. I thought I was a badass when I bought a new 2400 baud modem. Scanning a picture took a long time. A cctv cam, an rgb filter, and a steady hand. Ya follow? I have no problem with government, insofar as they don't stick a gun in my face and say "pay up". The instant they do, well... we got ourselves a problem. I "believe" in freedom... the free market... TRUE democracy. Labor/trade without ANY constraint. Nature is a meritocracy. Why the fuck don't we imitate what already works? What the fuck is our major malfunction? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 666254 Canada 06/02/2009 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What would the world be like if we all followed OP's example? Quoting: BOWMAN------ ***** ------ it would be a lot better, we could eliminate wasteful jobs that are not necessary (which happens to be most, if not all), the money system can be removed completely and replaced with a human population working together, instead of in competition, we could explore infinite possibilities that our current school/television system says are impossible, this alone is awe-inspiring and requires nothing but human love and the willingness to change, for starters, we all need to communicate these ideas for this to work, communicate AND live alternatives is a good first step |
The Jurist User ID: 692452 United States 06/02/2009 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the stupid idiot socialist Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692485Here comes the libertards in force... fuckwit. Me, a Liberal? :tj_nd_yid: ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 679034 United States 06/02/2009 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | peace be upon you pyrate. Quoting: Pyratei think you are a brave and moral person Thank you... Brave and moral? I'll leave that for others to decide. I admire, respect, and love 3 great men I have met. When I die, they will be who I answer to. That's all the justification I need. Those that are ugly to this post are just jealous and weak to stand up for a right they have.. good luck to you Pyrate |